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Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Ravenna: 8:24pm On Sep 19, 2023
ojun50:
You guys should catch him, put him inside black bag take him to river niger, the river will return him to South Africa.

Haha?!

Alaye..

Are you playing?!
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Coronavirus1: 8:24pm On Sep 19, 2023
There is love in sharing let your father path ways to some of the properties your father can not sit on top all the properties may be your father even use vodoo to chased his elder brother away because of the properties. My own opinion any way.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Focusmind: 8:25pm On Sep 19, 2023
You people should apply wisdom. Your father should not look down on his brother because of his current financial situation. As long as his sanity is still there, he is the "successor to title" of your grandfather's property in the absence of a "Will" from your grandfather. Your father should respect your uncle's position and let the two amicably share the property. Don't join in the fight.....rather be a peace maker. My statement is based on , if you people are Igbo......the patriarchal system in Igbo land is well entrenched and documented as part of people's law and customs under the defunct Eastern Nigeria native laws and customs.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by kayperry: 8:32pm On Sep 19, 2023
fyzaila:


Here in the North, there is sharia court to sort things out. Will or not

Just like tradition & culture, sharia court is limited to region and religion, moreover even Quran & bible gives 1st son leverages

there are xtains in the north
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by TheBillyonaire: 8:35pm On Sep 19, 2023
Peter532:
Hello all,
My dad immediate elder brother who went to south africa in the 90s is back to drag their parents property claiming to be the first son.

This is someone who after he travelled only came back once and never bothered about the affair's of the family.

Their father my grandfather died 2005 he was no where to be found. my grand mother died 2018 still nothing from him.

No contributions whatever even while their parents was still alive.

He cut all sort of communications with them and now he's back to lay claim on the properties.

The family is angry but some of the elders in the extended family are getting on is side claiming he's still the senior he was never disowned but they can't say it out though.

It's obvious he came back with almost nothing and felt laying claims on their parent property is the back up plan

No will was written and some of the old buildings has been reconstructed from the scratch by my father and yet someone is laying claim on it.

I will like to know how this will go because my father is ready to fight this with his last strength and we the children are firmly behind him

Do you want to read the truth? If yes, listen to the truth and advise your father accordingly.

Your Father's Elder brother is the authentic title holder of the inheritances by Right, and he is the right person to share the properties to your Dad and the rest of the family members as he deems fit.

Your father is to surrender possession of all properties to the Elder brother and account for the monies he has made from those properties since the demise of your Grand father, and your Uncle can decide to forego the revenue accrued from the properties during his absense to your Dad, but all the Properties are his and your father's trust and it is your Uncle that has traditional rights to share those properties to everyone else.

Did you guys care to know if your uncle went to prison and couldnt come for the burial or life was just too tough for him?

Bleep around and find out, is what people say on tik tok, even your ancestors will not support your papa on this.

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Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Smartguyboy(m): 8:50pm On Sep 19, 2023
Peter532:
Hello all,
My dad immediate elder brother who went to south africa in the 90s is back to drag their parents property claiming to be the first son.

This is someone who after he travelled only came back once and never bothered about the affair's of the family.

Their father my grandfather died 2005 he was no where to be found. my grand mother died 2018 still nothing from him.

No contributions whatever even while their parents was still alive.

He cut all sort of communications with them and now he's back to lay claim on the properties.

The family is angry but some of the elders in the extended family are getting on is side claiming he's still the senior he was never disowned but they can't say it out though.

It's obvious he came back with almost nothing and felt laying claims on their parent property is the back up plan

No will was written and some of the old buildings has been reconstructed from the scratch by my father and yet someone is laying claim on it.

I will like to know how this will go because my father is ready to fight this with his last strength and we the children are firmly behind him

Your father will lose the case anywhere in the world bro the best thing for him to do is give him some property to calm him down because his still the first son and he have all the right. By tradition he will have the lion share so if your dad want peace let him just share some for him and let him know he has invested a lot of money on the properties .
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by idomytin(m): 8:53pm On Sep 19, 2023
Well, so sorry from your dad's angle, but the question still remains "was him disowned then by your grandfather?
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by GloriousGbola: 9:27pm On Sep 19, 2023
Klass99:


A very useless first son who provided no value whatsoever. Why should such a person inherit or lay claim to any properties, solely on the basis of being a first son?

We have some very messed up traditions that cause more harm than good, which need to be thrown away. Is it not men who created these traditions? Can the same men not undo them, if they really wish to?

Unlike you I mean every offence when I say (not to you specifically) that the useless first son should have stayed gone and never returned or reappeared to claim property.

What is wrong with some children sef? Are your hands broken or is your brain malfunctioning to a point where you cannot build or acquire properties of your own, without looking to grab what your parents had?


errr . . . something something prodigal son fatted calf
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by online4business: 9:36pm On Sep 19, 2023
Peter532:
Hello all,
My dad immediate elder brother who went to south africa in the 90s is back to drag their parents property claiming to be the first son.

This is someone who after he travelled only came back once and never bothered about the affair's of the family.

Their father my grandfather died 2005 he was no where to be found. my grand mother died 2018 still nothing from him.

No contributions whatever even while their parents was still alive.

He cut all sort of communications with them and now he's back to lay claim on the properties.

The family is angry but some of the elders in the extended family are getting on is side claiming he's still the senior he was never disowned but they can't say it out though.

It's obvious he came back with almost nothing and felt laying claims on their parent property is the back up plan

No will was written and some of the old buildings has been reconstructed from the scratch by my father and yet someone is laying claim on it.

I will like to know how this will go because my father is ready to fight this with his last strength and we the children are firmly behind him

You want to hear the truth I believe that's why you brought this to nairaland.

Here's the truth.

Your uncle was in jail most of the time in south Africa that's why he was unavailable.

Lived in Cyprus for years and I still know many Nigerians who are in jail till date.

He is the rightful owner of those properties based on traditional (the elder know the truth that's why they are not saying it to your father's face)

Tradition na tradition it might not favor you but even the gods will stand with your uncle anywhere anyway anyday.

He's the first fruit of your grandpa.

Your father has tried maintaining the name of the family and even remodel he properties.

However, he should call his senior brother and explain to him how he has worked hard to maintain the properties.

If his senior brother is reasonable he would tell him to what to take and what he wants.

They both match to the chiefs who would fix a date for sharing of the properties.


Make I just tell you and chances are you will not like it.

Tell your dad not to drag the property with him... it's easy to lose one life when you are not standing on the right side of the gods and God.

Sadly your uncle is standing with the gods and God.

It's the bitter truth.

History has a way of repeating itself.

He'll hound anyone with his inheritance like it happened in the bible and could cause generational curses and hatred.

If you love your Dad it's not worth losing sleep over properties he can easily aquire.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by CJStarz: 9:36pm On Sep 19, 2023
Peter532:
Hello all,
My dad immediate elder brother who went to south africa in the 90s is back to drag their parents property claiming to be the first son.

This is someone who after he travelled only came back once and never bothered about the affair's of the family.
How can one travel to out in the early 90s be said to have spent 37years in that country as at 2023. He could only have travelled out in 1986!
And because of this unwarranted blunder,I no too believe this your story.


Their father my grandfather died 2005 he was no where to be found. my grand mother died 2018 still nothing from him.

No contributions whatever even while their parents was still alive.

He cut all sort of communications with them and now he's back to lay claim on the properties.

The family is angry but some of the elders in the extended family are getting on is side claiming he's still the senior he was never disowned but they can't say it out though.

It's obvious he came back with almost nothing and felt laying claims on their parent property is the back up plan

No will was written and some of the old buildings has been reconstructed from the scratch by my father and yet someone is laying claim on it.

I will like to know how this will go because my father is ready to fight this with his last strength and we the children are firmly behind him
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Sassenach: 9:39pm On Sep 19, 2023
vincenteger:
Do you want to deny him his birth right
Sentiment apart, he's still the first son

Your father should call him for a meeting together with the elders and resolve this issues.

What about his family?
If there's non then you don't have to worry much
He is likely to sell those properties the moment they get to him. Your dad can buy them from the back.

You father should present the properties that him & your uncle is aware of.

But come to think of it, I believe these properties are on rent and if they are on rent that means your father must have recovered the money he used for renovations and even for the burial of your grand parents. So I think you dad is also owing him money too.

Please don't allow sentiment to cloud your judgement.

Who made this senseless law of “first son inherits everything”? So the other children are not regarded as legitimate? You see why folks cannot trust an Igbo man with ruling the country?

When a man dies in other cultures, especially in the Yoruba culture, the properties are shared equally amongst all the children. Even the married female child.

My Igbo peeps need to do a lot of learning and relearning. Not just on issues like these, but also on misogyny, homophobia and uncouthness.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Nyanabo(m): 9:53pm On Sep 19, 2023
okoroemeka:
I laugh at some comments,it seems many folks don't even know the intricate web of village politics,if he claims he renovated the house,his brother will claim that he actually defaced his property without his consent,if the house in question is the family house then it belongs to the firstborn but he has no authority yet to evict any of his brothers until they build their own house,but if the house in question is a rented town house apart from the family house then it will be shared by the brothers,in some cases what usually happens is they sell the rented house and split the money

Where does that work ? I disagree. It doesn't work that way.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by ojun50(m): 9:54pm On Sep 19, 2023
Ravenna:


Haha?!

Alaye..

Are you playing?!
Play ke, after 37 years you won calm properties because you be first born. Oga na river he go pass go
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Nobody: 10:01pm On Sep 19, 2023
highbee02:


That's sheer magnanimity, the one that renovated it was being magnanimous since the land belong to their father. The property is not exclusively his
Between the brother who is being magnanimous and the greedy one who came out of nowhere to lay claim on everything, the magnanimous one is humane. Secondly, the one that's laying claim on the properties, are they exclusively his for him to be laying claim on them? Of course not.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by BigMamaNaija: 10:06pm On Sep 19, 2023
Sassenach:


Who made this senseless law of “first son inherits everything”? So the other children are not regarded as legitimate? You see why folks cannot trust an Igbo man with ruling the country?

When a man dies in other cultures, especially in the Yoruba culture, the properties are shared equally amongst all the children. Even the married female child.

My Igbo peeps need to do a lot of learning and relearning. Not just on issues like these, but also on misogyny, homophobia and uncouthness.

Nobody said the first son should inherit everything and leave others empty-handed. It is only the main family house (where papa and mama lived before their demise) and the land on which it was built that unquestionably belongs to the first son. Other properties (if any) will usually be shared. Where the family house is the only inheritance, other sons usually know from the beginning that they need to save and buy/build somewhere else in the village.

In this case, OP's father and brothers do not want their uncle to have ANYTHING at all for the reasons he stated. Even other tribes have contributed on the thread, telling him that it's wrong by their culture. It's not just an Igbo thing.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Mummyimbecile(m): 10:14pm On Sep 19, 2023
Peter532:
Hello all,
My dad immediate elder brother who went to south africa in the 90s is back to drag their parents property claiming to be the first son.

This is someone who after he travelled only came back once and never bothered about the affair's of the family.

Their father my grandfather died 2005 he was no where to be found. my grand mother died 2018 still nothing from him.

No contributions whatever even while their parents was still alive.

He cut all sort of communications with them and now he's back to lay claim on the properties.

The family is angry but some of the elders in the extended family are getting on is side claiming he's still the senior he was never disowned but they can't say it out though.

It's obvious he came back with almost nothing and felt laying claims on their parent property is the back up plan

No will was written and some of the old buildings has been reconstructed from the scratch by my father and yet someone is laying claim on it.

I will like to know how this will go because my father is ready to fight this with his last strength and we the children are firmly behind him
your dad has no right to drag the property with his elder brother.

He is the first son and he is entitled to a bigger share of the property. Tell your Dad to mellow down and let them share the property.


Don't forget, it is foolishness that makes an overfed child to challenge the gods to a wrestling contest.

Don't also forget that if a child lifts his father up, his fathers scrotum will surely cover his eyes.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by IkeAbuja: 10:16pm On Sep 19, 2023
Like is it everything you people will post on nairaland 🥴
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Sheffieldconsul: 10:27pm On Sep 19, 2023
You want us to support your father's greediness? You and your siblings are supporting your father not to give his elder brother his birth right? Dey mumu.. He wasn't disowned, there was no will and he is alive and the first son? Tell your father to do the right thing immediately and you bleeping stay away from it. Greedy bunch!
Peter532:
Hello all,
My dad immediate elder brother who went to south africa in the 90s is back to drag their parents property claiming to be the first son.

This is someone who after he travelled only came back once and never bothered about the affair's of the family.

Their father my grandfather died 2005 he was no where to be found. my grand mother died 2018 still nothing from him.

No contributions whatever even while their parents was still alive.

He cut all sort of communications with them and now he's back to lay claim on the properties.

The family is angry but some of the elders in the extended family are getting on is side claiming he's still the senior he was never disowned but they can't say it out though.

It's obvious he came back with almost nothing and felt laying claims on their parent property is the back up plan

No will was written and some of the old buildings has been reconstructed from the scratch by my father and yet someone is laying claim on it.

I will like to know how this will go because my father is ready to fight this with his last strength and we the children are firmly behind him
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Collins0609(m): 11:02pm On Sep 19, 2023
The properties belong to your uncle as the first son of the family.
It is within his right to share the properties among his siblings after taking the lion shares of the land.
Whether your father built or renovate the house, it's still within his right as the first son.
Who knows your father may be behind his predicament in his sojourn abroad.
He own greater share of the properties as the first son, and your dad own shares too.
If tradition should be forgotten, ur father should have shared the land and properties among your aunt's.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Collins0609(m): 11:05pm On Sep 19, 2023
Judging from the way women reply on this thread, I understand why our ancestors exclude them from inheriting any properties
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by watersideboys: 11:12pm On Sep 19, 2023
If he ame back from UK or USA to drag that one na witchcraft but since its south africa 😆😆 omo give am him share hunger dey
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by sapoyoro(m): 11:25pm On Sep 19, 2023
Collins0609:
The properties belong to your uncle as the first son of the family.
It is within his right to share the properties among his siblings after taking the lion shares of the land.
Whether your father built or renovate the house, it's still within his right as the first son.
Who knows your father may be behind his predicament in his sojourn abroad.
He own greater share of the properties as the first son, and your dad own shares too.
If tradition should be forgotten, ur father should have shared the land and properties among your aunt's.
You Igbo people are so shameless. See how every one of you is saying properties belong to only the first son?
Which kin rubbish tradition be this ? So the first son owns all the properties and will share to his siblings as he deem fit? As per say the other children mumu.
Omo I thank God for being Yoruba in Yorubaland everything will be shared equally even down to the female child nobody is left cheated nor is anyone made to feel superior.
You guys can’t even cover up your shame. Tue tue
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Collins0609(m): 11:32pm On Sep 19, 2023
Whether you like it or not, tradition remains tradition.
Let me lecture you on Tolerance
Tolerance is about accepting people view even when it's different from yours.
I believe you are learned but don't allow your emotion cloud your judgement.
If you are a Christian, you must have heard apostle Paul saying if you go to the Rome behave like the Romans and likewise if you are in Samaria
Enjoy your tradition, let's enjoy ours. We no dey complain.
So the Man should sieze the family properties just because he held custody of it.
How many properties have he sold. What about the dividend from the land that he has been enjoying.
If the said uncle is previledges to such don't you think he would have been successful.
Don't let emotion cloud your judgement.
sapoyoro:

You Igbo people are so shameless. See how every one of you is saying properties belong to only the first son?
Which kin rubbish tradition be this ? So the first son owns all the properties and will share to his siblings as he deem fit? As per say the other children mumu.
Omo I thank God for being Yoruba in Yorubaland everything will be shared equally even down to the female child nobody is left cheated nor is anyone made to feel superior.
You guys can’t even cover up your shame. Tue tue
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by franksam209: 11:38pm On Sep 19, 2023
Peter532:
Hello all,
My dad immediate elder brother who went to south africa in the 90s is back to drag their parents property claiming to be the first son.

This is someone who after he travelled only came back once and never bothered about the affair's of the family.

Their father my grandfather died 2005 he was no where to be found. my grand mother died 2018 still nothing from him.

No contributions whatever even while their parents was still alive.

He cut all sort of communications with them and now he's back to lay claim on the properties.

The family is angry but some of the elders in the extended family are getting on is side claiming he's still the senior he was never disowned but they can't say it out though.

It's obvious he came back with almost nothing and felt laying claims on their parent property is the back up plan

No will was written and some of the old buildings has been reconstructed from the scratch by my father and yet someone is laying claim on it.

I will like to know how this will go because my father is ready to fight this with his last strength and we the children are firmly behind him
no matter what you say or how you sugarcoat it, he is the first son, your dad knew this be4 renovating those properties without taking permission from the heir ....

The father's house belongs to the first son, but every other thing will be shared equally btw the boys
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Sassenach: 11:42pm On Sep 19, 2023
Collins0609:
Whether you like it or not, tradition remains tradition.
Let me lecture you on Tolerance
Tolerance is about accepting people view even when it's different from yours.
I believe you are learned but don't allow your emotion cloud your judgement.
If you are a Christian, you must have heard apostle Paul saying if you go to the Rome behave like the Romans and likewise if you are in Samaria
Enjoy your tradition, let's enjoy ours. We no dey complain.

So the Man should sieze the family properties just because he held custody of it.
How many properties have he sold. What about the dividend from the land that he has been enjoying.
If the said uncle is previledges to such don't you think he would have been successful.
Don't let emotion cloud your judgement.


You no Dey complain because let me guess, you are not a woman. Am I right?

No one is saying the man should hold on to the properties. Majority are advocating that the common sense thing to do is to divide the properties down to the middle. That’s assuming only two of them are the offsprings of the deceased.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by LaSenior: 11:46pm On Sep 19, 2023
Nbote:
The sad truth is whether he disappeared or not, he's still entitled to a share of his Father's properties. Infact in Igbo culture as the first son he's the rightful owner of his Father's house
but the house has been rebuilt

The first son before he can be allowed to claim the house he must first build another house for his second brother in an empty land

Failure to do so the house that was rebuilt won't be his
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by zumbigbo(m): 12:11am On Sep 20, 2023
All I read is one entitled son lusting over things that do not concern him. Go and hustle my broda
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by yom2(m): 1:30am On Sep 20, 2023
Peter532:
Hello all,
My dad immediate elder brother who went to south africa in the 90s is back to drag their parents property claiming to be the first son.

This is someone who after he travelled only came back once and never bothered about the affair's of the family.

Their father my grandfather died 2005 he was no where to be found. my grand mother died 2018 still nothing from him.

No contributions whatever even while their parents was still alive.

He cut all sort of communications with them and now he's back to lay claim on the properties.

The family is angry but some of the elders in the extended family are getting on is side claiming he's still the senior he was never disowned but they can't say it out though.

It's obvious he came back with almost nothing and felt laying claims on their parent property is the back up plan

No will was written and some of the old buildings has been reconstructed from the scratch by my father and yet someone is laying claim on it.

I will like to know how this will go because my father is ready to fight this with his last strength and we the children are firmly behind him
first thing first : he is still d first son and has an upper right going by culture. I want to believe U are Ibo. There must have been communication gap between ur dad and uncle over the years other wise this should not happen at all. Your uncle should also be considerate when exercising what he believes is his right . Your dad has been d keeper and d person on ground all these years. Better for both of them to split the property or properties and settle amicably. It's shamefuy for siblings to be fighting over properties unnecessarily
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by Trustedpronet: 1:40am On Sep 20, 2023
if it's me I will be so happy to see my blood alive. Perhaps the man is just testing ground to see if they still love him. He might be rich. If their father was still alive he will definitely be happy to see his first son. I'm afraid that your father might kill him as he prepared to fight with his last strength.
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by ruffhandu: 4:49am On Sep 20, 2023
djon78:



Actually the man's will stands

It's just that everyone was shocked

He really dealt with the first e

But he caused it
Looking down on a Man that was a big odogwu in his hey days

This is a very big lesson
People should be careful how they relate with there parents when they feel they have arrived

Because these old people know how to deal with stubborn children even from the grave
If only people would understand that money has it's lane, which is different from human relationships, they will also know that money is fleeting. And then it will never enter their head no matter what.

You guys should advise him that if he does anything to harm his younger bro, or tamper with yhe will in any way, he has then invited a generational curse upon his lineage. Even God said something about moving the ancient land boundary. His should should learn from his stupidity. He should learn not to take certain advice from women- his mother, they are not experts in the area, unless they have the spirit of God

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Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by JaceBlaze: 5:36am On Sep 20, 2023
37 years? Dat one na Japa Godfather.Japa Originator shocked
Re: After 37yrs In South Africa He Came Back To Drag Properties With My Father. by johnwegs(m): 5:41am On Sep 20, 2023
Klass99:


A very useless first son who provided no value whatsoever. Why should such a person inherit or lay claim to any properties, solely on the basis of being a first son?

We have some very messed up traditions that cause more harm than good, which need to be thrown away. Is it not men who created these traditions? Can the same men not undo them, if they really wish to?

Unlike you I mean every offence when I say (not to you specifically) that the useless first son should have stayed gone and never returned or reappeared to claim property.

What is wrong with some children sef? Are your hands broken or is your brain malfunctioning to a point where you cannot build or acquire properties of your own, without looking to grab what your parents had?
bro he is still a son to your grandparents,he still have a right to any property belonging to his family, onye na azo oche okpara na azo oche ndi mmuo, I suggest you guys should apply wisdom no be by muscle ooo

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