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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 2:20pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Ronaldo faced the best defenders of his era. Meaning, he met less tactical defenders. Today, in tactical setups, it is difficult to ghost past players to make name as he did then.
Sir, does 2 or 3 seasons ago qualify for modern Era? I am seeing one video of Salah on YouTube disgracing City defenders to score o. Any good one is Mitomo's goal a couple of weeks ago sir. Even our own Aribo scored a spectacular solo goal against Villarael albeit in a friendly . And sir, it has always been difficult to score such goals, such are never meant to be easy.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 2:25pm On Sep 20, 2023
Alfryd:

Multichoice won't go for dividing... I think they should just accept startime deal and let see how it goes from there
That stream won't even work in most Southern region too aside lag, pH, Ibadan Sha
Buh putting it on startime/DStv average person can be watching it in beer parlour, club, or at home on weekends

The useless decision they took was the MTN deal
How can you say only MTN user can stream it live
Other network go dey watch highlights
Oshi
When I saw that MTN part I just lost hope

Once money is involved sense is out the window

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:30pm On Sep 20, 2023
chrisooblog:
You sef shock?


No bi small. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:32pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


I have never seen Haaland skipping past players the way Ronaldo did. That is gone now.

Because Haaland doesn't possess Ronaldo's skill set. EOD

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bossto(m): 2:33pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


I have never seen Haaland skipping past players the way Ronaldo did. That is gone now.
My brother!, Small small dey talk. Take "skipping past players" out of the equation, R9 was a highly talented player.
Believe me if he's was playing in this era, he would destroy many top teams no matter the tactics used.
Stop arguing this abeg!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 2:37pm On Sep 20, 2023
bossto:
My brother!, Small small dey talk. Take "skipping past players" out of the equation, R9 was a highly talented player.
Believe me if he's was playing in this era, he would destroy many top teams no matter the tactics used.
Stop arguing this abeg!


Ah bro's, you vex come out to tell him that, thing is will he agrees to stop, abi no be awa blue finger again
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:48pm On Sep 20, 2023
do4luv14:



Ah bro's, you vex come out to tell him that, thing is will he agrees to stop, abi no be awa blue finger again
People I fear most in football analysis are guys that always basing their opinions on theoretical knowledge.

I can mention players in the 80s to early 2000s that will find it easy in today’s footballing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by bossto(m): 2:49pm On Sep 20, 2023
do4luv14:



Ah bro's, you vex come out to tell him that, thing is will he agrees to stop, abi no be awa blue finger again
The thing shock me ooo, make I no lie. Tactics no go do everything for a team! If he or pep wan try am, make they come carry Gombe united play Real Madrid for UCL. Arguably, we have less talented defenders now compared to R9 era, it is just tactics that makes them stand out now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 2:56pm On Sep 20, 2023
Meliforme:


Only Rafa Silva has created more chances (14) than Kelechi Nwakali (12) in the entire Portuguese League.

Kelechi Nwakali is just a rookie in the league.

Sources: Fotmob, Whoscored, Sofascore, etc.

I was expecting quotes but not surprised you mentioned Whoscored,sofascore.

Nwakali rookie in Portuguese league?pls at what age,pls Orban Gift is what in Belgium league.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 3:01pm On Sep 20, 2023
Kog45:
People I fear most in football analysis are guys that always basing their opinions on theoretical knowledge.

I can mention players in the 80s to early 2000s that will find it easy in today’s footballing.



Am telling you Sir, put that same Haaland against Maldini, make I see wetin him go do,

Sir, you too soft on the isuues, those goalkeepers sef, can't be compared to those of yesteryears,
is it Jorge Campos, and Blah, David seaman, more those of the 80s??


I repeat o fear who no fear awa blue fonter

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 3:03pm On Sep 20, 2023
bossto:
The thing shock me ooo, make I no lie. Tactics no go do everything for a team! If he or pep wan try am, make they come carry Gombe united play Real Madrid for UCL. Arguably, we have less talented defenders now compared to R9 era, it is just tactics that makes them stand out now.


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No go let am electrocute you join abeg 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😉🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:10pm On Sep 20, 2023
bossto:
My brother!, Small small dey talk. Take "skipping past players" out of the equation, R9 was a highly talented player.
Believe me if he's was playing in this era, he would destroy many top teams no matter the tactics used.
Stop arguing this abeg!

My problem is the term "destroy". You can say Ronaldo would be brilliant. He was quite tactical too. Brilliant with both feet, could drift to both wings. Crazy in dropping deep too.

However, there is a misconception people have with players of the past being more talented than players today. I don't think that is the case.

It is a case of players being more gifted today at defending. It is more organized, more calculated and precise. So it is difficult for players to excel with flair or "destroy" teams as we used to see in the past.

So I have no doubt that Ronaldo would be brilliant, I am saying he would not be that dominating as he was in the past.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:11pm On Sep 20, 2023
forgiveness:


Because Haaland doesn't possess Ronaldo's skill set. EOD

Because the modern game requires different attributes than flair with the ball.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:13pm On Sep 20, 2023
AndSunGorilla:

Sir, does 2 or 3 seasons ago qualify for modern Era? I am seeing one video of Salah on YouTube disgracing City defenders to score o. Any good one is Mitomo's goal a couple of weeks ago sir. Even our own Aribo scored a spectacular solo goal against Villarael albeit in a friendly . And sir, it has always been difficult to score such goals, such are never meant to be easy.

Yes, we see Solo goals once in a while but it is far more difficult. Ronaldo did not have one or two brilliant Solo goals. He had it in loads. He could pull 3-4 mind blowing solo runs in a game. It was normal. Now it is not.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 3:14pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


My problem is the term "destroy". You can say Ronaldo would be brilliant. He was quite tactical too. Brilliant with both feet, could drift to both wings. Crazy in dropping deep too.

However, there is a misconception people have with players of the past being more talented than players today. I don't think that is the case.

It is a case of players being more gifted today at defending. It is more organized, more calculated and precise. So it is difficult for players to excel with flair or "destroy" teams are we used to see in the past.

So I have no doubt that Ronaldo would be brilliant, I am saying he would not be that dominating as he was in the past.
Sir Joe but Haaland is dominating EPL and own Paul Onuachu dominated Belgium league like wetin dey happen.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:17pm On Sep 20, 2023
Napoleon55:


I want to know for sure,when did the modern era began?

Did prime Messi,prime Neymar Jnr met the modern era?

From my perspective, it started in Guardiola's Barcelona. So at that time, teams where still playing the old pattern. However, Guardiola's multiple success and teaching seminars took it global. Now many teams are well versed in it.

So Prime Messi did not deal with prime modern game and even at the time Neymar was reaching his prime, teams were not well versed in it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:18pm On Sep 20, 2023
Kog45:
Sir Joe but Haaland is dominating EPL and own Paul Onuachu dominated Belgium league like wetin dey happen.

But not destroying teams the way Ronaldo did in the past. There is less single handed ability in offensive players winning games.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:19pm On Sep 20, 2023
Kog45:
Sir Joe but Haaland is dominating EPL and own Paul Onuachu dominated Belgium league like wetin dey happen.
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Na una dey argue with am. Me no fit engage person wey dey argue like who dey possessed for discussion let alone argument

He will twist the matter sotey em no go knw wen em contradict himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:20pm On Sep 20, 2023
BascoVanVeli:


He will find a manner to dominate. That's what makes him considered a great.

You are judging his greatness with playing with untactful defenders. Playing in this era will not be as easy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:21pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
Rich that you can use ATM's negative football as a shining light when it suits your narrative grin

I am not using it as a shining light because I hate it but pointing out how difficult it is to play against tactical defensive setups.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:24pm On Sep 20, 2023
Kog45:
I was expecting quotes but not surprised you mentioned Whoscored,sofascore.

Nwakali rookie in Portuguese league?pls at what age,pls Orban Gift is what in Belgium league.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:24pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
Is dribbling Haaland's strength?

Did Neymar play in the 70s?

That is why I am pointing out that the likes of Neymar would be prime Garrincha and Pele or even more in the 70s.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:26pm On Sep 20, 2023
Kog45:
People I fear most in football analysis are guys that always basing their opinions on theoretical knowledge.

I can mention players in the 80s to early 2000s that will find it easy in today’s footballing.


However, you can't deny that it is more difficult in modern tactical defending to flourish as it was in the past. This is just a plain fact.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:29pm On Sep 20, 2023
do4luv14:



Am telling you Sir, put that same Haaland against Maldini, make I see wetin him go do,

Sir, you too soft on the isuues, those goalkeepers sef, can't be compared to those of yesteryears,
is it Jorge Campos, and Blah, David seaman, more those of the 80s??


I repeat o fear who no fear awa blue fonter


LOL. Goalkeepers that can't use their feet in the first place.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:37pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


I am not using it as a shining light because I hate it but pointing out how difficult it is to play against tactical defensive setups.
Then that's a poor example because all teams don't play like ATM

It's even poorer because that assumes R9 didn't play ultra defensive teams. That badass played in Serie A fgs.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:39pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
Then that's a poor example because all teams don't play like ATM

It's even poorer because that assumes R9 didn't play ultra defensive teams. That badass played in Serie A fgs.



Pre modern game Italy. It was never as tactical as today.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:39pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


That is why I am pointing out that the likes of Neymar would be prime Garrincha and Pele or even more in the 70s.
Yes, why not. Neymar is in that class not every tom, dick harry and his dog.

Neymar did what those guys did in their respective eras in his own era.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:41pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


However, you can't deny that it is more difficult in modern tactical defending to flourish as it was in the past. This is just a plain fact.
No it is not. Rather it is lost on you on what an immense talent we are talking about.

There's something that makes one part of the greats. It is instinct. It is not coached into people

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:41pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
Yes, why not. Neymar is in that class not every tom, dick harry and his dog.

Neymar did what does guys did in their respective eras in his own era.


Watch how Neymar used to skip past players and score for fun in Brazil while in Santos, and how he never could do that in the modern era.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:42pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
No it is not. Rather it is lost on you on what an immense talent we are talking about.

I doubt you followed and watched Ronaldo more than me. Or have an idea how good he was compared to me.

I am saying the modern game is a different ball game. It is a simple fact. Ronaldo would find it far more difficult now than then.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 3:43pm On Sep 20, 2023
TheGoodJoe:


Watch how Neymar used to skip past players and score for fun in Brazil while in Santos, and how he never could do that in the modern era.
Sorry you are trying to piss on my feet and call it rain.

Neymar troubled La Liga so much with dribbling that players like Godin allowed their disdain get the best of them sotey dem de fight am.

No come de bend reality

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:45pm On Sep 20, 2023
Odunayaw:
Sorry you are trying to piss on my feet and call it rain.

Neymar troubled La Liga so much with dribbling that players like Godin allowed their disdain get the best of them sotey dem de fight am.

No come de bend reality

Never scored a solo goal like he used to do for fun in the early Santos era at Barcelona.

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