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Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m):
MaxInDHouse:
This is why i have been ignoring you because you keep on dwelling on matters that has been resolved.
Who resolved the matters? cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin

How many times do i have to tell you that Russell is not the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?
But you said Jesus bought it from Russell.

So how can Jesus bought something from the person who isn't a founder of it?

Anyways, Russell is still part of those ruling with Jesus in heaven as the founder cheesy cheesy

I even quoted a current member of the church practicing what Russell established for you to grasp that the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses totally preach and teach what differs from Russell's ideology yet you keep dragging the matter back as if you're on default mode! undecided
So if what Russell taught are different to what your organisation is teaching today. IT MEANS:

1. Jesus was not with Russell
2. Jesus didn't direct Russell.
3. Jesus never choose Russell
4. Holy spirit and Jehovah never support nor dish spiritual food through Russell.
5. Russell was never part of those ruling with Jesus Christ.
6. 1914 was just Russell philosophy
7. "Faithful and discreet slave" was just hoax

Watch as he'll Change mouth now grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 12:37pm On Sep 20, 2023
advocatejare:
It’s not the foolish things you write that matter, it’s the truth: Russell left the Adventist cos of failed prophecy given in Adventist to establish his own movement/cult which you refer to as a religion, unfortunately the same cult is notorious for failed prophecies
This is the truth they all know but still decided to be blinded with delusion.

Russell’s successor then decided to give the cult a new name and you’re saying that Russell is not the founder and you want to lie that Jesus founded the Jw organization and bought the Watchtower from the fraud called Russell, we asked you for proof and you have been crying like Egbere since then.
The funny thing about all this is that, in one breath they acknowledge the errors of Russell and his pagan team in the early time of Watchtower development and in another breath they'll like to gaslight and pass it off as irrelevant things so that, people won't use it against them.

Using more lies to cover up the previous lies.

Your task is simple: show your proof from the Bible where Jesus claimed to have established a religion, where he named the religion JW, and where he bought the Watchtower from Russell
It's on record that he claimed Jesus Bought Watchtower from Russell.

Meaning Russell was the ACTUAL FOUNDER.

Jack Is the founder of Twitter but Elon Musk BOUGHT from Jack.

Till thy kingdom come, Jack remains the founder of Twitter despite the fact that Elon has bought it.

So you can see, any other peddling and manipulation he can do, he has already agreed that Russell is the founder.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:22pm On Sep 20, 2023
Continue agitating! cheesy

advocatejare:
It’s not the foolish things you write that matter, it’s the truth: Russell left the Adventist cos of failed prophecy given in Adventist to establish his own movement/cult which you refer to as a religion, unfortunately the same cult is notorious for failed prophecies

Russell’s successor then decided to give the cult a new name and you’re saying that Russell is not the founder and you want to lie that Jesus founded the Jw organization and bought the Watchtower from the fraud called Russell, we asked you for proof and you have been crying like Egbere since then.

Your task is simple: show your proof from the Bible where Jesus claimed to have established a religion, where he named the religion JW, and where he bought the Watchtower from Russell
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:25pm On Sep 20, 2023
You're worried over too many things! smiley

Jesus chose the group called International Bible Students Association (IBSA) not Russell.

So that's why the group has continued to make improvement after Russell's death! smiley

Emusan:
So if what Russell taught are different to what your organisation is teaching today. IT MEANS:
1. Jesus was not with Russell
2. Jesus didn't direct Russell.
3. Jesus never choose Russell
4. Holy spirit and Jehovah never support nor dish spiritual food through Russell.
5. Russell was never part of those ruling with Jesus Christ.
6. 1914 was just Russell philosophy
7. "Faithful and discreet slave" was just hoax
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:28pm On Sep 20, 2023
Precious221:
Whatever made them stop visiting sha jehovah's witnesses still dey go people house.
I just dey laugh all these agitators because we are still going to people's houses and they are giving us attention along with their families.
So since it's not by force we can't impose what we have on anyone it's either they accept or reject our message no wahala! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 3:29pm On Sep 20, 2023
See how the misinformed hallgoer miscreant used style to boycott my questions cheesy grin

MaxInDHouse:
You're worried over too many things! smiley
How do you know if you're not in my shoe? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

Jesus chose the group called International Bible Students Association (IBSA) not Russell.
So that means you lied earlier when you claimed Jesus BOUGHT it from Russell cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy

There's a receipt here

So that's why the group has continued to make improvement after Russell's death! smiley
Just say they are continuing to CHANGE Jesus teachings given to Russell cheesy grin grin cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:46pm On Sep 20, 2023
Emusan:
See how the misinformed hallgoer miscreant used style to boycott my questions cheesy grin
How do you know if you're not in my shoe? cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
So that means you lied earlier when you claimed Jesus BOUGHT it from Russell cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy
There's a receipt here
Just say they are continuing to CHANGE Jesus teachings given to Russell cheesy grin grin cheesy
Watchtower was Russell's property not the group so Jesus bought Watchtower for the group he chose.
Do you understand it now? smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Emusan(m): 6:13pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Watchtower was Russell's property not the group
Good!

Which means Russell is the founder.

Cc:

Achorladey

Advocatejare

cheesy grin cheesy grin

so Jesus bought Watchtower for the group he chose.
Which means Jesus isn't the FOUNDER but only BOUGHT IT.

Now, can you provide the receipt Russell issued to Jesus after the seal deal? cheesy cheesy grin

Do you understand it now? smiley
Shameless hallgoer miscreant

And you think what you said makes any sense cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:21pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
That's what the New Testament writers and believers say but as for 99.9999% of Jews in the first century and today Jesus is a BLASPHEMER.
That's the accusation that led to his execution! smiley
That's what the New Testament writers and believers say
Liar and manipulator, new testament writers say Jesus is a liar. grin grin grin grin

but as for 99.9999% of Jews in the first century and today Jesus is a BLASPHEMER
Another round of lies and manipulations grin grin grin grin Is Jesus a liar since you believe that's what Jews believe? grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:24pm On Sep 20, 2023
advocatejare:
It’s not the foolish things you write that matter, it’s the truth: Russell left the Adventist cos of failed prophecy given in Adventist to establish his own movement/cult which you refer to as a religion, unfortunately the same cult is notorious for failed prophecies

Russell’s successor then decided to give the cult a new name and you’re saying that Russell is not the founder and you want to lie that Jesus founded the Jw organization and bought the Watchtower from the fraud called Russell, we asked you for proof and you have been crying like Egbere since then.

Your task is simple: show your proof from the Bible where Jesus claimed to have established a religion, where he named the religion JW, and where he bought the Watchtower from Russell
The day he comes clean regarding those questions Eclipse of the Sun go happen for Night in Nigeria grin grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:24pm On Sep 20, 2023
Your impatience is really affecting you my guy, this is what all your friends have been agitating for right from the start of this thread.

Russell is the founder of WATCHTOWER that is what he invested all his wealth on not the group called International Bible Students Association (IBSA)

So try to calm down and get things straight in order to know exactly what you're agitating for.

©Russell is the FOUNDER of WATCHTOWER the publishing company.

©International Bible Students Association IBSA is a group of researchers studying the Bible to know what Christians should be doing today.

©Jesus chose that group because they are ever willing to make amendments in whatever they got from the churches of Christendom.

©So Jesus needed a publishing company that will be used to print whatever his group needed so he bought the Watchtower from Russell.


Now you can reboot to figure out whatever you want to agitate about! smiley

Emusan:
Good!
Which means Russell is the founder.
Cc:
Achorladey
Advocatejare
cheesy grin cheesy grin
Which means Jesus isn't the FOUNDER but only BOUGHT IT.
Now, can you provide the receipt Russell issued to Jesus after the seal deal? cheesy cheesy grin
Shameless hallgoer miscreant
And you think what you said makes any sense cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:27pm On Sep 20, 2023
Emusan:
Who resolved the matters? cheesy grin cheesy grin grin grin



But you said Jesus bought it from Russell.

So how can Jesus bought something from the person who isn't a founder of it?

Anyways, Russell is still part of those ruling with Jesus in heaven as the founder cheesy cheesy



So if what Russell taught are different to what your organisation is teaching today. IT MEANS:

1. Jesus was not with Russell
2. Jesus didn't direct Russell.
3. Jesus never choose Russell
4. Holy spirit and Jehovah never support nor dish spiritual food through Russell.
5. Russell was never part of those ruling with Jesus Christ.
6. 1914 was just Russell philosophy
7. "Faithful and discreet slave" was just hoax

Watch as he'll Change mouth now grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
The liar and manipulator already rope himself with his lies and manipulations.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:30pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Continue agitating! cheesy
Claim agitating, agitation, arguments, faithless miscreants, not a meaningful discussion, claim stupidity, claim madness, claim insanities grin grin grin grin

Face the discussion and stop peddling agitations since you have been caught in your lies and manipulations cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 6:33pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Your impatience is really affecting you my guy, this is what all your friends have been agitating for right from the start of this thread.

Russell is the founder of WATCHTOWER that is what he invested all his wealth on not the group called International Bible Students Association (IBSA)

So try to calm down and get things straight in order to know exactly what you're agitating for.

©Russell is the FOUNDER of WATCHTOWER the publishing company.

©International Bible Students Association IBSA is a group of researchers studying the Bible to know what Christians should be doing today.

©Jesus chose that group because they are ever willing to make amendments in whatever they got from the churches of Christendom.

©So Jesus needed a publishing company that will be used to print whatever his group needed so he bought the Watchtower from Russell.


Now you can reboot to figure out whatever you want to agitate about! smiley

Those FAITHLESS miscreants will still come here to TWIST your comment & continue making jest of THEMSELVES.

Nah their way.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:34pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
You're worried over too many things! smiley

Jesus chose the group called International Bible Students Association (IBSA) not Russell.

So that's why the group has continued to make improvement after Russell's death! smiley
Bible verse that states so word for word. Another round of lies and manipulations.

Cc: Emusan, advocatejare

Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:38pm On Sep 20, 2023
Emusan:
Good!

Which means Russell is the founder.

Cc:

Achorladey

Advocatejare

cheesy grin cheesy grin



Which means Jesus isn't the FOUNDER but only BOUGHT IT.

Now, can you provide the receipt Russell issued to Jesus after the seal deal? cheesy cheesy grin



Shameless hallgoer miscreant

And you think what you said makes any sense cheesy grin cheesy grin
See delusions, lies and manipulations on top of Jesus head. Jesus bought a publishing company for the group grin grin grin

Which group?
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:39pm On Sep 20, 2023
Janosky:
Those FAITHLESS miscreants will still come here to TWIST your comment & continue making jest of THEMSELVES.

Nah their way.
At least any right thinking individual will see exactly what i'm saying so whatever they decide to do is none of my business as long as my points are clearly stated in my comments! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:43pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Your impatience is really affecting you my guy, this is what all your friends have been agitating for right from the start of this thread.

Russell is the founder of WATCHTOWER that is what he invested all his wealth on not the group called International Bible Students Association (IBSA)

So try to calm down and get things straight in order to know exactly what you're agitating for.

©Russell is the FOUNDER of WATCHTOWER the publishing company.

©International Bible Students Association IBSA is a group of researchers studying the Bible to know what Christians should be doing today.

©Jesus chose that group because they are ever willing to make amendments in whatever they got from the churches of Christendom.

©So Jesus needed a publishing company that will be used to print whatever his group needed so he bought the Watchtower from Russell.


Now you can reboot to figure out whatever you want to agitate about! smiley
Liar, manipulator at his best. grin grin grin grin grin

Jesus needed a publishing house that will keep publishing errors, mistakes in doctrines and organisation direction grin grin grin grin


Jesus is a party to lies and manipulations in buying what had been disseminating lies and manipulations for +/-150 years grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky: 6:45pm On Sep 20, 2023
Emusan:
So if what Russell taught are different to what your organisation is teaching today. IT MEANS:

1. Jesus was not with Russell
2. Jesus didn't direct Russell.
3. Jesus never choose Russell
4. Holy spirit and Jehovah never support nor dish spiritual food through Russell.
5. Russell was never part of those ruling with Jesus Christ.

Watch as he'll Change mouth now grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
1 Corinthians 15:12
12 But tell me this—since we preach that Christ rose from the dead, why are some of you saying there will be no resurrection of the dead?

Emusan, do you AGREE that @1 Corinthians 15:12 ,the Corinthian brethrens teaching "there will be no resurrection of the dead."
It MEANS:

1. Jesus was not with the Corinthian brethren.
2. Jesus didn't direct the Corinthian brethren.
3. Jesus never choose the Corinthian brethren.
4. Holy spirit and Jehovah never support nor dish spiritual food through Corinthian brethren..
5. The Corinthian brethren was never part of those ruling with Jesus Christ.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:46pm On Sep 20, 2023
My blows are for the two churchgoers: Emusan and advocatejare! 1Corinthians 9:26
So the apostates are just like clowns for side attractions to distract whoever is not focused on the topic of discussion! wink
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:48pm On Sep 20, 2023
Now you're doing the needful!
AVOID the apostates and focus on misinformed churchgoers! wink

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 15:12
12 But tell me this—since we preach that Christ rose from the dead, why are some of you saying there will be no resurrection of the dead?

Emusan, do you AGREE that @1 Corinthians 15:12 ,the Corinthian brethrens teaching "there will be no resurrection of the dead."
It MEANS:

1. Jesus was not with the Corinthian brethren.
2. Jesus didn't direct the Corinthian brethren.
3. Jesus never choose the Corinthian brethren.
4. Holy spirit and Jehovah never support nor dish spiritual food through Corinthian brethren..
5. The Corinthian brethren was never part of those ruling with Jesus Christ.
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by Janosky:
achorladey:
Liar, manipulator at his best. grin grin grin grin grin

Jesus needed a publishing house that will keep publishing errors, mistakes in doctrines and organisation direction grin grin grin grin


Jesus is a party to lies and manipulations in buying what had been disseminating lies and manipulations for +/-150 years grin grin grin grin
@ John 20:24-27 in your Bible when Thomas did not believe in Jesus resurrection, was Thomas still Jesus disciple?
John 20:29, what happened later?

Achorladey WAILER,go & delete 1 Corinthians 15:12 from your Bible.

Achorladey WAILER,go & delete 1 Samuel 3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:6 from your Bible.

Or your Sifia pains continue indefinitely.
grin grin cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 6:53pm On Sep 20, 2023
achorladey:
Bible verse that states so word for word. Another round of lies and manipulations.

Cc: Emusan, advocatejar
MaxInDHouse will be blind to this as usual, he doesn’t want to publicly associate with the fraud called Russell
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:54pm On Sep 20, 2023
Janosky:
Achorladey WAILER,go & delete 1 Corinthians 15:12 from your Bible.
Achorladey WAILER,go & delete 1 Samuel 3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:6 from your Bible.
Or your Sifia pains continue indefinitely.
grin grin cheesy
Ọmọ you don't need to engage the apostate, if he feels like knowing better let him present the organization of zealous preachers and industrious teachers that's making active disciples who are also preaching and teaching in their neighbourhood.
In the absence of that he's just a clown to me! grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 6:55pm On Sep 20, 2023
achorladey:
The day he comes clean regarding those questions Eclipse of the Sun go happen for Night in Nigeria grin grin grin grin grin
He can’t come clean na, coming clean is the end of argument for MaxInDHouse, it’s like expecting Satan to repent to God.
That boy called MaxInDHouse is Satan’s offspring, he lives on lies and his sole existence is based on it
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:56pm On Sep 20, 2023
advocatejare:
MaxInDHouse will be blind to this as usual, he doesn’t want to publicly associate with the fraud called Russell
If you say Russell is a fraud then what do you call John the baptist who didn't know he has came to fulfil the role of Elijah and even questioning Jesus' credentials?

Ọmọ you need a thorough Bible study! smiley
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 6:56pm On Sep 20, 2023
Janosky:
Achorladey WAILER,go & delete 1 Corinthians 15:12 from your Bible.

Achorladey WAILER,go & delete 1 Samuel 3:20 & 1 Samuel 16:6 from your Bible.

Or your Sifia pains continue indefinitely.
grin grin cheesy
Those Bible verses I have trashed it repeatedly here on nairaland. You can only peddle your mumu and no get sense over it. grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58pm On Sep 20, 2023
advocatejare:
He can’t come clean na, coming clean is the end of argument for MaxInDHouse, it’s like expecting Satan to repent to God.
That boy called MaxInDHouse is Satan’s offspring, he lives on lies and his sole existence is based on it
No wahala.
Before Jesus called Judaism a religion based on lies he has gathered a group that will be going about teaching the truth.
So present the group that's teaching the truth nah! cheesy
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 7:00pm On Sep 20, 2023
Emusan:
Good!

Which means Russell is the founder.

Cc:

Achorladey

Advocatejar

cheesy grin cheesy grin
MaxInDHouse abi Jesus bought it from himself after founding it? grin
Ha, JW Organization is raising dumbasses who can’t reason with their brains

Which means Jesus isn't the FOUNDER but only BOUGHT IT.
MaxInDHouse, oya answer grin

Now, can you provide the receipt Russell issued to Jesus after the seal deal? cheesy cheesy grin
MaxInDHouse provide the proof of the transaction and the receipt wink


And you think what you said makes any sense cheesy grin cheesy grin
A lie one continually repeats to himself will start sounding as truth to him. They are under delusions
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by achorladey: 7:01pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ you don't need to engage the apostate, if he feels like knowing better let him present the organization of zealous preachers and industrious teachers that's making active disciples who are also preaching and teaching in their neighbourhood.
In the absence of that he's just a clown to me! grin
He is a mumu and no get sense peddling peddler. He has repeatedly refuse to heed your call grin grin grin

He was here before you anyway and just like you, he has metamorphosed using many monikers to peddle lies and manipulations grin grin grin grin

As for your better performing performance group, we know it is a fraud and your post here are testament to it grin grin grin after they are sinners, still used cursed name, influenced by the devil and are filled with hypocrites and people with suspicious tendency grin grin grin grin
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 7:01pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
No wahala.
Before Jesus called Judaism a religion based on lies he has gathered a group that will be going about teaching the truth.
So present the group that's teaching the truth nah! cheesy
Where did Jesus call Judaism a religion?

Provide your reference.

That’s another assignment for you. Oya get to work and search the scriptures!
Re: Who Is The Founder Of Jehovah’s Witnesses Organization by advocatejare(op): 7:03pm On Sep 20, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
If you say Russell is a fraud then what do you call John the baptist who didn't know he has came to fulfil the role of Elijah and even questioning Jesus' credentials?

Ọmọ you need a thorough Bible study! smiley
So you have finally agreed that Russell is a fraud!

No wonder JW is a fraudulent organization cos the foundation was founded on fraud by a fraudulent character called Russell
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