Ekemeze:


Dude rest, no be una own I wan talk🙄🙄🙄🙄

Are you gonna lie they're no discrepancies in Islam? Aren't they different sect of Islam?

Was Islam the original religion of your ancestors or wasn't it the Arabs that forced it down your throat just like Romans did ?

What's the difference?

Y'all are just mental slaves .. so rest. 🤡🤡🤡🤡

No matter the division in Islam (which is just a very minute one compared to Christianity) Muslims all over the world believe in ONE GOD, SAME QUR'AN AS REVEALED, Unlike the Christians who are not united on the ONESS of God despite the clarity in the bible. The Christians' Bible also differs, the Catholics' bible have more books in their bible than the other Christians, etc.

Islam is mentioned in the Quran, the Quran is mentioned in the Quran, Friday worship is mentioned in the Quran, can you say same that God recommended Christianity in the bible or the Bible is mentioned by God in the Bible, or Sunday is mentioned in the bible as a special day of worship or that even Jesus Christ worshiped on Sunday in the bible?

So, you are the undisputable mental slaves following what Paul who never met Jesus cooked up.

Ekemeze:


I take no prisoners bro 😎😎😎 ..

trust me when I say I know them well. If you give them one chance they'll try all they can to make you inferior.

I sabi that their mentality too.

highoctane already said no religious organization come close to them on this thread

Na evidence of what you just said

Memyselfu2009:
SO this is also simple logic First lets make it clear God has no beginning and has no end therefore the bible verse in John 1vs 1 would be in contradiction with verse that acknowledge God has no beginning and has no end.

I love this point, reason why God is said to be ETERNAL.

According to the Bible Jesus is eternal and Holy Spirit is eternal.

By your own explanation it means they are both God.

Mind you the bible also made is clear that Jesus was created 1 col 1 vs 15.

No where Bible ever said Jesus was created.

"Christ is the visible image of the invisible God. He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation," - NLT

"Christ is exactly like God, who cannot be seen. He is the first-born Son, superior to all creation." - CEV

This is Col 1:15, where did it say Jesus was created?

So the question is what beginning was 1 john 1 vs 1 refer to two. Its is the beginning to creations that why that verse said in the beginning was the word, the word was with God and the word was god.

You're right it's about the beginning of creation but no god was with God as God created EVERYTHING ALONE.

SO ITS IS RIGHT TO SAY THAT JESUS WAS FIRST CREATED AND ALL OTHER THINGS THAT WAS CREATED HE WITNESS IT AND HE ALWAYS ACTIVELY INVOLUE IN GOD'S CREATIONS,

No where Jesus was said to be created.

Jesus himself said He had glory with the Father EVEN BEFORE THE UNIVERSE BEGINS.

So how come Jesus was created when the world was not in place?

@color, you should ask why NWT inserted the word 'OTHER' into Col 1 16-18.

because that was never part of scripture but intentionally added to change the meaning of that passage.

Read John 1:3 from NWT, "All things came into existence through him,+ and apart from him not even one thing came into existence." - NWT

You can see that APART FROM HIM(Jesus) NOT EVEN ONE THING came into EXISTENCE.

So to say Jesus was created and God used Him to create OTHER THINGS (the word never used by any Bible writers) means Jesus created Himself.

HISSCRIBE1995:
I noticed that the jehova witnesses around me usually feel uncomfortable when a christian song is been played but they are quick to dance and sing along to secular (even ungodly ) songs.
They seems not to like hearing a christian sermon but would prefer to listen to sermons from other faith (islam)

Now the question is - why do these people react this way but chose to be more positive to unchristian subject rather than christian subject of which they are already familiar with.
It is also a wonder that these people Choose not to be identified as Christians (please if I'm wrong with this assertions you can correct me)
I think these organizations need to be studied very well to see why they Choose to be the way they are (their doctrines, and differences in scriptures)

If you know anything about this group called jehova witnesses, or had experienced some of their reactions, please share so that the church and general public can know more about them and their beliefs without castigasting anyone.

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Every religious zealot is delusional one way or the other.
Why are there many Christian sects with each group believing the others are wrong? How come there are many Islamic sects believing that the others are not Muslims enough?
Throw in blackness into the equation and the result is violence.

/

Courz:


Not only Russia. They are banned in other countries as well. This is why people need to know them so as to know their Tactics and not fall for them. JW is for people who need to be told what to do and for people who have no brains.

When I first attended their convention (outta curiosity) I realized that, JW isn't just any type of organization but the type that meets every requirements to be called a "cult".

In 2003, a neighbor left the church and married a man from another church, they "disfellowshiped" that lady and even her immediate family refused attending the wedding.

Courz:


Jehovah's witnesses and Mormons are Cousins from the same Family gan gan gan. Their founders are both Freemasons. Their Conventions are the same. Their dressing are the same. Their website is similar. They have similar Cartoon for kids.

JWs are the Boko Haram of Christianity. They are against University Education.

Janosky:
The holy scriptures disciplines and corrects us, 2 Timothy 3:16.

JaNosense the misinformed hallgoer miscreant.

So you agree that the Corinthians and Samuel didn't make the claim like your lie lie organisation made in their false prophecies.

Your envy, prejudice and bias is uncalled for.

Says the idiot who think Samuel and the Corinthians made the same mistake that JWs made in their false prophecies

Continue WAILING in sifia pains.[/b]

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If you're not in severe pain. Your ranting here wont be this loud

Too much evidence full this thread.

I see you cc: Achorladey, Courz, Emusan...

😁😁

Ayatullah:


No matter the division in Islam (which is just a very minute one compared to Christianity) Muslims all over the world believe in ONE GOD, SAME QUR'AN AS REVEALED, Unlike the Christians who are not united on the ONESS of God despite the clarity in the bible. The Christians' Bible also differs, the Catholics' bible have more books in their bible than the other Christians, etc.

Islam is mentioned in the Quran, the Quran is mentioned in the Quran, Friday worship is mentioned in the Quran, can you say same that God recommended Christianity in the bible or the Bible is mentioned by God in the Bible, or Sunday is mentioned in the bible as a special day of worship or that even Jesus Christ worshiped on Sunday in the bible?

So, you are the undisputable mental slaves following what Paul who never met Jesus cooked up.

You are emphasising his point with what I put in bold.

Imagine going to the North and hear a northerner saying Yoruba Muslim

Whatever you are trying to sell, only people who are not familiar with your mode of operation will buy it.

IRAN and Saudi Arabia are what they are today based on the DIVISIONS on that same Quran you say unite you. Saudi Arabia is even threatening to develop nuclear weapons if and eventually Iran succeed in their mission.

Carry your unity on quran and religion to another place to market

Ekemeze:


When I first attended their convention (outta curiosity) I realized that, JW isn't just any type of organization but the type that meets every requirements to be called a "cult".

In 2003, a neighbor left the church and married a man from another church, they "disfellowshiped" that lady and even her immediate family refused attending the wedding.

Evidence everywhere

Who says Jehovah’s witnesses support gatherings of others in Jesus name?

I still dey look for answers

Ekemeze:


When I first attended their convention (outta curiosity) I realized that, JW isn't just any type of organization but the type that meets every requirements to be called a "cult".

In 2003, a neighbor left the church and married a man from another church, they "disfellowshiped" that lady and even her immediate family refused attending the wedding.

Facts! That's how they roll. You are not allowed to attend the wedding of a JW that married outside the Cult. Their single Men marry outside the Cult with no problems. Their women are the ones they like to keep in bondage to force them to marry within. And na dem many pass the Men. Look at them languishing there. The question is are the Men suitable? Lazy with a lack of ambition and Gigolos. Do you know what happens in their marriages? A lot of married JW women are not happy o. That's why your neighbour calculated 1+1=2 and ran for her life and took charge of her life. She did well. She for dey there dey wait for one useless JW Man to marry her and be panel beating her everyday.

oteneaaron:
Too much evidence full this thread.

I see you cc: Achorladey, Courz, Emusan...

😁😁

I dey tell you. I am impressed with how much people know JWs.

Ayatullah:


No matter the division in Islam (which is just a very minute one compared to Christianity) Muslims all over the world believe in ONE GOD, SAME QUR'AN AS REVEALED, Unlike the Christians who are not united on the ONESS of God despite the clarity in the bible. The Christians' Bible also differs, the Catholics' bible have more books in their bible than the other Christians, etc.

Islam is mentioned in the Quran, the Quran is mentioned in the Quran, Friday worship is mentioned in the Quran, can you say same that God recommended Christianity in the bible or the Bible is mentioned by God in the Bible, or Sunday is mentioned in the bible as a special day of worship or that even Jesus Christ worshiped on Sunday in the bible?

So, you are the undisputable mental slaves following what Paul who never met Jesus cooked up.

Who cares about all of that?
I don't give one shit about the fight among christians.. but I'm asking you, was Islam not forced down your ancestors' throat by the Arab? The fucking smelling Arabs imprisoned your forefathers and took them slaves.

By the way, are you in anyway trying to paint Islam as a better religion?😂😂😂😂😂
Dude really?
The same stupid religion that has completely eliminated every aspect of human right? Or the same Quran which is the bases of terrorism?
Bro even Saudi Arabians today are still very much racist against you as a black man. Evidence is everywhere.

Please don't even try countering that with "they're christian terrorists and racist too".
Because if you want to present your religion as a better option, then it should be perfect.

And by the way, just Incase you don't know, one of the major problem in the middle east is because of the difference in your Islam.

The only thing that unites Islam is terrorism, bigotry, extremism and slavery.

There is nothing like trinity.
God is one
God is God
Jesus is same God
And Holy Spirit is the same God.
It all depends on the three despeensation.
Creation
Salvation
Dwelling

Janosky:


Point of correction:
JWs worship the only true God, John 17:1-7.

JWs do NOT worship 3 "distinct persons."
In other words, JWs are NOT Polytheists who worship 3 "distinct persons" (alias Trinity).

Bros, you called the songs JWs listen to as "secular music", did you not?
Whom does it concern when JWs choose to listen to "secular music"?

You are only confusing yourself despite effort to make you understand.
Christians are not worshipping 3 gods.
We worshipping one God who manifests as father, son and holy spirit.
, a man can manifest in three ways.
For example, a particular man who is called a husband to his wife, he is also called a son to his own father and he is similarly a father to his own child.
With this outcome, one man is manifesting in 3 dimensions and it doesn't make the man to be 3 different man.
God the father came into this world thru the birth of Jesus Christ in order to save people from adamic sins and when Jesus finished his work, he remains with us thru the holy spirit after He left.
Therefore, God the father, son and holy spirit is one and the same.

achorladey:


Evidence everywhere

Who says Jehovah’s witnesses support gatherings of others in Jesus name?

I still dey look for answers

Bro. I wouldn't be in this thread if not for my first hand experience with these fellows for over 2 decades now.

Janosky:


Oga, you can't even CHANGE ANYTHING Jesus Christ said in Revelation 3:12 & John 20:17.

Oga, leave your delusion in the dustbin.

You are to be pitied...

You only need simple inferential logic to free yourself from dangerous indoctrination and brainwashing...

First of all, you cherry-pick verses from a heretical attempt at translating the Bible, then you run amok with them with scant regard to the fact that to understand the Bible, emphasis should be laid on the nexus existing between verses across the 66 books.

You jumped to John 20:17 and use it to attempt disproving the belief in Trinity but I will like to know how your New World renders Genesis 1:26 where God spoke with a collective pronoun "we"...

Even the John 20:17 you quoted does not vitiate the Trinity.

Jesus was addressing his disciples. Everything He said there was sufficient for human need for salvation.

You couldn't have reasonably expected Jesus said that before Abraham, He being in existence, to go beyond disclosures requisite for human spiritual well-being.

Read Deuteronomy 29:29 from a standard Bible so that you can see that the nature of God that we know is only what is revealed to us as humans.

Jesus was communicating to his audience in human terms in that verse so it will not help your case to extrapolate it beyond what it intended to convey...

Courz:


I dey tell you. I am impressed with how much people know JWs.

As in ehn.

I am quite shocked.

It is good to know that people can see beyond their self-righteous attitude.

Only true religion in the mud.

😂😂

Ekemeze:


Bro. I wouldn't be in this thread if not for my first hand experience with these fellows for over 2 decades now.

And someone will still come and say you are lying, bias and just want to spread hatred about them

To such ones 2 decades is just like yesterday only

oteneaaron:


As in ehn.

I am quite shocked.

It is good to know that people can see beyond their self-righteous attitude.

Only true religion in the mud.

😂😂

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

oteneaaron:
Too much evidence full this thread.

I see you cc: Achorladey, Courz, Emusan...

😁😁

In their quest to lie and keep their manipulations going. They will get their lies and manipulations exposed as what it is.

Many are seeing the madness and insanities peddling packed into their brains as being the only true religion on earth doing God's will

chocho28:
My only question to the so called Jehovah's Witnesses is, why is Mark 16:17-18 missing from their Bible. I'll really like to know the answer to that.

Check most versions today first.
Thanks!

MaxInDHouse:

Check most versions today first.
Thanks!

Which means those versions are accurate too

MaxInDHouse:

Check most versions today first.
Thanks!

Stop replying these people.
They already have an agenda they want to perpetrate.
I know Jws are not perfect,but if you read through the thread and see the type of insanities they are trying to pin on JWs you'll know they don't deserve a reply.

maestroferddi:

In any case, it is your choice...

You now understand that all religions around you means people's choices shey?

Ọmọ hold tight to yours!

achorladey:


And someone will still come and say you are lying, bias and just want to spread hatred about them

To such ones 2 decades is just like yesterday only

Rule no 1:
Don't ask a jw for any help as a non JW member. I have no doubt in my mind they're taught to be stingy and never help non members, but these mother fuckers won't hesitate to ask and receive help from you.

Rule no. 2
Don't forget rule no. 1

Tushkid74:

Stop replying these people.
They already have an agenda they want to perpetrate. I know Jws are not perfect,but if you read through the thread and see the type of insanities they are trying to pin on JWs you'll know they don't deserve a reply.

I know how difficult it is for billions to see the truth.
One thing is sure:
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't sent to fetch the INNOCENT rather our mission is the FAITHFUL.

So no matter what faithless miscreants are doing faithful individuals in all the earth will make out time to ascertain the truth! 1Thessalonians 5:21

Thanks!

No matter what the argument is, I don't think anyone concerned will change his/her beliefs here. Everyone has been trained to be right, not wrong or to ponder. Therefore; UNA GO EXPLAIN TAYA.
Just let the believers breathe!

Courz:


So, if no religion comes close to you JWs, why is there Fornication/Promiscuity, Adultery, Child Sexual Abuse/Pedophilia, Homosexuality, Wife swapping, Spiritism and all kinds of Fraud existing amongst you?

Such sinfull acts existed among early Christians ,the Bible set forth in house cleaning of any who became unrepentant in such gross sinful acts,( disfellowshiped or expulsion ) JWs don't not claim to be sinless, but they do not accomodatie or condone individuals who want to pollute their organisation thereby setting a high standard of business as usual obtained in many so call proffesed Christian churches

I laugh you badly .. wait does it mean anywhere witness was mentioned in the bible, it you people that Jesus or any of the saints were refering to? This one over me

Janosky:


John 17:6-7. John 20:17, John 9:4,Acts 15:14,17, did Jesus say he worships the God of Jehovah's Witnesses as proven @ Isaiah 43:10-12 (ASV) ?

As for our none interest in what you term "Christian songs", your observations are correct.

Jehovah's servants have no interest in the songs of individuals who worship 3 persons.
Your Bible tells me the only true God says HE is NOT 3 persons.
Deuteronomy 6:3 & John 17:3.

Shalom.

Ekemeze:


Rule no 1:
Don't ask a jw for any help as a non JW member. I have no doubt in my mind they're taught to be stingy and never help non members, but these mother fuckers won't hesitate to ask and receive help from you.

Rule no. 2
Don't forget rule no. 1

The JWs are of different types. The ones you are talking about are the ones that carry the Cult for head. The Fanatics. The ones who are not Fanatics are different. They are the ones you can be free with. It is not every JW that even like their fellow members. If you watch them well in the Kingdom hall, they select who they associate with. The rich go with the rich. The Poor go with the poor. The Fanatics go with the Fanatics. The PIMOs go with the PIMOs.

highoctane:


Such sinfull acts existed among early Christians ,the Bible set forth in house cleaning of any who became unrepentant in such gross sinful acts,( disfellowshiped or expulsion ) JWs don't not claim to be sinless, but they do not accomodatie or condone individuals who want to pollute their organisation thereby setting a high standard of business as usual obtained in many so call proffesed Christian churches

Upon your Disfellowshipping, you still have Fornication/Promiscuity, Adultery, Child Sexual Abuse/Pedophilia, Homosexuality, Wife swapping, Spiritism and all kinds of Fraud existing amongst you. If all of you in the Kingdom hall in all congregations are investigated, you all will be disfellowshipped and there will be no single JW left. Na who dem catch be thief. The people who you call Elders that disfellowship people are also part of the people who practise the above. So I repeat, if no religion comes close to you JWs, why is there Fornication/Promiscuity, Adultery, Child Sexual Abuse/Pedophilia, Homosexuality, Wife swapping, Spiritism and all kinds of Fraud existing amongst you?