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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Arda1000(m): 7:24am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ do you want to know how we can IDENTIFY God's Chosen people today? smiley
yes .... Omo
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by johnw47: 7:26am On Oct 03, 2023
achorladey:



The liar and manipulator aka MaxInDHouse still denying his religious publications hoping BenedictAbajue will buy the lies, manipulations, madness and insanities peddling from his brains

a leopard doesn't lose his spots

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Arda1000(m): 7:27am On Oct 03, 2023
achorladey:


That liar and manipulator has typed on this same platform that his religious organization is man-made. Na those he will manipulate with lies, madness and insanities peddling coming from his brains he is looking for
lol let them explain how it was God not Charles Russel that formed and laid the foundation of Jehovah's witnesses.
It's like Anglican trying to deny the fact that it was the Catholic Church that give birth to them

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:01am On Oct 03, 2023
Arda1000:

but you are one of Jehovah's witnesses so explain what's special about you guys and how it was God not Charles Russell that lay the foundation of your church

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is an IDENTIFICATION just a group name but to figure out God's chosen people out of all the religions on this planet it takes more than just telling stories.

God resides in heaven not earth but He is our Creator and His purpose for creating us will be the only way to know His chosen people today.

For instance Nigeria is a country with diverse ethnic groups but when we are talking about patriotic Nigerians you know exactly what that means it's not about tribe this time but the motive and goodwill of Nigeria in their hearts such ones could be found in all the tribes in Nigeria and what matters most is how they're able to come together and move on with the plan to make Nigerian great without prejudice nor fierceness but love, peace, justice and unity.

Do you agree? smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Arda1000(m): 8:33am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is an IDENTIFICATION just a group name but to figure out God's chosen people out of all the religions on this planet it takes more than just telling stories.

God resides in heaven not earth but He is our Creator and His purpose for creating us will be the only way to know His chosen people today.

For instance Nigeria is a country with diverse ethnic groups but when we are talking about patriotic Nigerians you know exactly what that means it's not about tribe this time but the motive and goodwill of Nigeria in their hearts such ones could be found in all the tribes in Nigeria and what matters most is how they're able to come together and move on with the plan to make Nigerian great without prejudice nor fierceness but love, peace, justice and unity.

Do you agree? smiley

I don't agree with you.
No group of people are special, infact it's highly impossible to be special simply because someone joined a church,so if I join JW now I will become special hahaha.
Anyone can form a church today and tell his followers you are Jesus witnesses and that they are special and that God through Jesus will give them a special place to live

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by achorladey: 8:38am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES is an IDENTIFICATION just a group name but to figure out God's chosen people out of all the religions on this planet it takes more than just telling stories.

God resides in heaven not earth but He is our Creator and His purpose for creating us will be the only way to know His chosen people today.

For instance Nigeria is a country with diverse ethnic groups but when we are talking about patriotic Nigerians you know exactly what that means it's not about tribe this time but the motive and goodwill of Nigeria in their hearts such ones could be found in all the tribes in Nigeria and what matters most is how they're able to come together and move on with the plan to make Nigerian great without prejudice nor fierceness but love, peace, justice and unity.

Do you agree? smiley


patriotic Nigeria that has prejudice against the national anthem.

Have you ever seen a Jehovah's witness go to a government owned radio station or attend a national summit to provide a way forward for this country

liar, madness and insanities peddling peddler.

Arda1000 see the manipulation he wants you to buy

It is not about telling stories and that stories is what will follow next after peddling your lies and manipulations

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Arda1000(m): 8:48am On Oct 03, 2023
achorladey:


patriotic Nigeria that has prejudice against the national anthem.

Have you ever seen a Jehovah's witness go to a government owned radio station or attend a national summit to provide a way forward for this country

liar, madness and insanities peddling peddler.

Arda1000 see the manipulation he wants you to buy

It is not about telling stories and that stories is what will follow next after peddling your lies and manipulations
but that can't work on me am logical and sensible.

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:55am On Oct 03, 2023
Arda1000:
I don't agree with you.
No group of people are special, infact it's highly impossible to be special simply because someone joined a church,so if I join JW now I will become special hahaha.
Anyone can form a church today and tell his followers you are Jesus witnesses and that they are special and that God through Jesus will give them a special place to live

Did you read the comment at all?

Let me outline the bullet points:

Nigeria a country.
Nigerians the inhabitants.
Patriotic Nigerians are citizens working hard for the peace, security, justice and love among Nigerians.

Calm down and let's reason this is not about rushing to conclusion but mature discussion.

Do you agree that there are still PATRIOTIC Nigerians despite the corruption we have today?
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:56am On Oct 03, 2023
Arda1000:
but that can't work on me am logical and sensible.

I love people with LOGICAL REASONING.

So prove you're truly logical and not a gullible followers of faithless miscreants.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by achorladey: 9:00am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Did you read the comment at all?

Let me outline the bullet points:

Nigeria a country.
Nigerians the inhabitants.
Patriotic Nigerians are citizens working hard for the peace, security, justice and love among Nigerians.

Calm down and let's reason this is not about rushing to conclusion but mature discussion.

Do you agree that there are still PATRIOTIC Nigerians despite the corruption we have today?

you are afraid he see your future lies and manipulations about being special.

The true christians or patriotic ones will eventually be decided based on your standard of true christianity

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by achorladey: 9:02am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


I love people with LOGICAL REASONING.

So prove you're truly logical and not a gullible followers of faithless miscreants.

he is logical to know that Jehovahs witnesses are not patriotic Nigerians and have prejudice against the country and what it tends to do based on your stories

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:10am On Oct 03, 2023
@ Arda1000
Waiting for your response! smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Arda1000(m): 9:10am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Did you read the comment at all?

Let me outline the bullet points:

Nigeria a country.
Nigerians the inhabitants.
Patriotic Nigerians are citizens working hard for the peace, security, justice and love among Nigerians.

Calm down and let's reason this is not about rushing to conclusion but mature discussion.

Do you agree that there are still PATRIOTIC Nigerians despite the corruption we have today?
frankly speaking I don't know a thing about Nigeria if they are patriotic Nigerians I don't know.
But what am telling is wether they are patriotic Nigerians or not it doesn't matter Nigeria is decaying.
If you think the Nigeria example will make me believe that Jehovah's witnesses are chosen by God then you take me for a fool.
How old do you think the universe is?
How about the Earth?
Do you think humanity started from the fake Bible story of creation,the Adam and Eve?



My friend you don't know anything about the world you live in,yet you think you know about God and that your church holds the key to God lol.
The universe is billions of years old start making research about the universe,if you are bright enough in no time you will see how false your Bible and you would know that the beliefs you held are just beliefs watered by ancient cave men who knew nothing much about the universe and who accorded Earth wonders to a supreme being because they simply didn't understand what was happening

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Arda1000(m): 9:11am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


I love people with LOGICAL REASONING.

So prove you're truly logical and not a gullible followers of faithless miscreants.
I'd rather believe in what I see my brother
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:15am On Oct 03, 2023
Arda1000:
frankly speaking I don't know a thing about Nigeria if they are patriotic Nigerians I don't know.
But what am telling is wether they are patriotic Nigerians or not it doesn't matter Nigeria is decaying.
If you think the Nigeria example will make me believe that Jehovah's witnesses are chosen by God then you take me for a fool.
How old do you think the universe is?
How about the Earth?
Do you think humanity started from the fake Bible story of creation,the Adam and Eve?
My friend you don't know anything about the world you live in,yet you think you know about God and that your church holds the key to God lol.
The universe is billions of years old start making research about the universe,if you are bright enough in no time you will see how false your Bible and you would know that the beliefs you held are just beliefs watered by ancient cave men who knew nothing much about the universe and who accorded Earth wonders to a supreme being because they simply didn't understand what was happening

How do you REASON with people?

Do you just keep talking without intelligently grasping what they actually have in mind to help if the need be?

I'm not saying Nigeria is getting better but if you are made the president of a country today who will you like to appoint as your corulers?

Is it just any citizen or PATRIOTIC citizens?

Let's start from there.
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:16am On Oct 03, 2023
Arda1000:
I'd rather believe in what I see my brother

Well i'm not talking about what you can't see here so calm down and reason!
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Arda1000(m): 9:19am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


How do you REASON with people?

Do you just keep talking without intelligently grasping what they actually have in mind to help if the need be?

I'm not saying Nigeria is getting better but if you are made the president of a country today who will you like to appoint as your corulers?

Is it just any citizen or PATRIOTIC citizens?

Let's start from there.
if you have something so intelligent you want to drop why not drop it instead of asking silly and childish questions like if I was made president of Nigeria

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by emmnprince(m): 9:21am On Oct 03, 2023
Memyselfu2009:


SO this is also simple logic First lets make it clear God has no beginning and has no end therefore the bible verse in John 1vs 1 would be in contradiction with verse that acknowledge God has no beginning and has no end. Mind you the bible also made is clear that Jesus was created 1 col 1 vs 15. So the question is what beginning was 1 john 1 vs 1 refer to two. Its is the beginning to creations that why that verse said in the beginning was the word, the word was with God and the word was god. SO ITS IS RIGHT TO SAY THAT JESUS WAS FIRST CREATED AND ALL OTHER THINGS THAT WAS CREATED HE WITNESS IT AND HE WAS ACTIVELY INVOLUED IN GOD'S CREATIONS,

GEN 1 VS 1 IN THE BEGINING GOD CREATED THE HEAVEN AND THE EARTH JESUS HE WITNESS THE CREATIONS OF HEAVEN AND EARTH

GEN 1 VS 26 - 31 Jesus joined in the creation of man.

NOTE JESUE JOIN IN THE CREATIONS BUT HE DID NOT CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH. BECAUSE THE BIBLE SAID COL 1 VS 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him.

Colossians 1:15-20
New International Version
The Supremacy of the Son of God
15 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19 For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20 and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.

Read full chapter

John 1:1-3
New International Version
The Word Became Flesh
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.



SO GUYS READ THE FACT FROM THE BIBLE BEFORE JUDGING JEHOVAH WITNESSES

Jesus Christ wasn't created. You just interpreted the those passages out of their context to support JW belief.

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Arda1000(m): 9:21am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Well i'm not talking about what you can't see here so calm down and reason!
something like what?
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:13am On Oct 03, 2023
Arda1000:
if you have something so intelligent you want to drop why not drop it instead of asking silly and childish questions like if I was made president of Nigeria

All you need to do is ask why the comparison but if reasoning with you is offensive it's OK. smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:24am On Oct 03, 2023
Arda1000:
something like what?
I know you don't believe in all the stories about God/Gods but then any intelligent being doesn't just dismiss what is happening around him simply because he feels those involved are fools wise people look for ways to gain insight so as to help others around them.

The title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING and supreme means one who has the final say.

Of course we can't see any God around us but then if someone say something thousands of years ago and today what he said is happening exactly the way he predicted don't you think such a person is not ordinary?

Whether we like it or not the idea of GOD cut across all races no matter the geographical location on this planet people there believe in the existence of God or Gods and their beliefs affects us one way or another.

So any wise person will like to know what is behind this ideology or of what benefit is the idea of a SUPREME BEING?

In all societies those in control often make sure they maintain peace among their citizens because that's what proves they're worthy of being there.

No God throughout this planet has promised and fulfilled His promise like the God of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Will you like to know what He promised and how it's been fulfilled among His worshipers today? smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:27am On Oct 03, 2023
emmnprince:

Jesus Christ wasn't created.

Are you saying the first born of creation is no part of creation?
What is the meaning of the word firstborn Son in a family? smiley
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:34am On Oct 03, 2023
emmnprince:


Jesus Christ wasn't created. You just interpreted the those passages out of their context to support JW belief.

The WORD had a beginning

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by johnw47: 11:13am On Oct 03, 2023
a great Christian song:

How Great Thou Art

Oh Lord, my God
When I, in awesome wonder
Consider all the worlds Thy hands have made
I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder
Thy power throughout the universe displayed
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
And when I think that God, His Son not sparing
Sent Him to die, I scarce can take it in
That on the cross, my burden gladly bearing
He bled and died to take away my sin
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
When Christ shall come, with shout of acclamation
And take me home, what joy shall fill my heart
Then I shall bow, in humble adoration
And then proclaim, my God, how great Thou art
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
Then sings my soul, my Savior God to Thee
How great Thou art, how great Thou art
How great Thou art, how great Thou art

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by johnw47: 11:16am On Oct 03, 2023
the universe is so big it can take thousand of years to travel to parts of it
travelling at the speed of light

fastest speed of a spacecraft is: 289,927 mph which is very very fast, but the speed of light is:
299 792 458 m / s
299 million 792 thousand and 458 miles a second, not miles an hour

wow, isn't our God Awesome


lost false jw's all being of the same line of thought don't think God is awesome
because they say things like: God is not all powerful, God is not all knowing,
and that Jesus is a deceiver, if that was not enough, being full of paranoia they make the Holy Spirit out to be a liar

but they are gods people, don't forget that

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:24am On Oct 03, 2023
Aemmyjah:

The WORD had a beginning

They just dismiss the idea of a beginning! smiley

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by johnw47: 11:45am On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
They just dismiss the idea of a beginning!

lost false jw mad max

john 1:1 has nothing to do with the Word having a beginning
john 1:1 is about the word being with God in the beginning

God bought forth His Wisdom/His Word to be His Son, before then,
Wisdom/God's Word, always existed in God


the Word existed before all created things
He is not created but begotten:

Col 1:17  He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Emusan(m): 2:44pm On Oct 03, 2023
Janosky:
ALL this nah WAILING grin grin

From the misinformed hallgoer miscreant grin cheesy

In your own Bible did the Corinthian brethren teach that Jesus did not resurrect?

But they didn't say Jesus is the one who taught them that there's no resurrection.

In your own Bible, did Thomas believe that Jesus Christ resurrect until Jesus persuaded him?

Thomas used his own human understanding reason why he needs HARDCORE EVIDENCE.

Thomas never claimed God told him that Jesus won't resurrect.

Did Samuel the prophet give a FALSE anointing in your Bible?

Samuel had WRONG perspective about the situation using his own human understanding and God corrected Him immediately.

Just as Thomas adjusted his beliefs about Jesus resurrection

Thomas adjusted because he realised he was WRONG and not on God's side.

Did Watchtower agreed that they are lying against God when God didn't send them?

JWs have readjusted to conform with JEHOVAH'S standards as the Corinthian brethren readjusted themselves, 2 Corinthians 13:9,11.

The question is, who taught JWs all those MISTAKES?

Jesus Himself corrected the Corinthians because He knows they are in error.

JWs on the other hands claimed God taught them everything. In fact, what they taught is not of man but from God.

That's is a lie against God and not man.

Can God teach error?

Do you agree JWs are just using their own human understanding and NOT DIRECTED BY God?

Till tomorrow,Pastor kumuyi your 3 deities anointed is still doing reforms.

Then you agree that both Kumuyi and your gods in Warwick are on the same level cheesy grin cheesy grin

Your gods of men are still mishearing from your 3 deities.

That's the evidence that those gods of men and your gods in Warwick are on the same page. cheesy grin cheesy grin

Make una continue WAILING about JWs.
grin grin grin[/b]

Why you'll continue crying and pained grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Emusan(m): 2:50pm On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
Are you saying the first born of creation is no part of creation?

Yes! Jesus Himself said He had glory with the Father even before the WORLD(UNIVERSE) begins.

What is the meaning of the word firstborn Son in a family? smiley

It means superior in.

Not CREATED,

Greek/Hebrew word for CREATE and FIRSTBORN are not the same. cheesy grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Emusan(m): 2:51pm On Oct 03, 2023
Aemmyjah:
The WORD had a beginning

Where did you see that from the scripture?
Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Emusan(m): 2:57pm On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:
They just dismiss the idea of a beginning! smiley

Olodo....

Does John 1:1 say the Word had a beginning? grin grin cheesy grin cheesy

Genesis 1:1 already told us what was created first.

"In the BEGINNING, God created heavens and earth"

To say Jesus was created first means Genesis should be read "In the BEGINNING, God created a Word" cheesy grin cheesy

Don't forget the Father is also "THE BEGINNING"

Does it mean the Father was created? cheesy grin cheesy

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Re: Why Do Jehovah's Witnesses "Hate" Christian Songs But Sing Secular Songs? by Arda1000(m): 4:23pm On Oct 03, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

I know you don't believe in all the stories about God/Gods but then any intelligent being doesn't just dismiss what is happening around him simply because he feels those involved are fools wise people look for ways to gain insight so as to help others around them.

The title GOD connotes SUPREME BEING and supreme means one who has the final say.

Of course we can't see any God around us but then if someone say something thousands of years ago and today what he said is happening exactly the way he predicted don't you think such a person is not ordinary?

Whether we like it or not the idea of GOD cut across all races no matter the geographical location on this planet people there believe in the existence of God or Gods and their beliefs affects us one way or another.

So any wise person will like to know what is behind this ideology or of what benefit is the idea of a SUPREME BEING?

In all societies those in control often make sure they maintain peace among their citizens because that's what proves they're worthy of being there.

No God throughout this planet has promised and fulfilled His promise like the God of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Will you like to know what He promised and how it's been fulfilled among His worshipers today? smiley
say exactly one thing that is happening and Bible accurately predicted it

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