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I can't even start to quote each and everyone of you. Y'all are too far gone in your Ten Hag out reasoning. You won't see any sense in anything else till he gets sacked.

Nitrogen is asking why the club should take the blames for giving Ten Hag 100% control of transfers just after I've stated reasons it's on them. Says a lot.

You set City, Liverpool, Madrid, Ajax(Style of rebuild) e.t c as examples of how you want your team built. Which of these clubs operate with the manager in total control of transfers?

How do you operate a football club with such nativity?

ChristoBam:
I can't even start to quote each and everyone of you. Y'all are too far gone in your Ten Hag out reasoning. You won't see any sense in anything else till he gets sacked.

Nitrogen is asking why the club should take the blames for giving Ten Hag 100% control of transfers just after I've stated reasons it's on them. Says a lot.

You set City, Liverpool, Madrid, Ajax(Style of rebuild) e.t c as examples of how you want your team built. Which of these clubs operate with the manager in total control of transfers?

How do you operate a football club with such nativity?

Nitrogen will never blame the management for anything. He would rather deny his chi 3 times before the cock crows than say anything bad about the club management. If you are waiting for any criticism from him then you are on an incredibly long thing.

People that actually think deeply about this said everything from the beginning.


Step one.
* We all agreed we needed a competent DOF to be in charge of the rebuild of the club.

Step two.
* They 'started' the process by actually bringing in a competent DOF but as an interim manager.

Step three
*They threw everything aside immediately they brought in a manager. They used the excuse of Ten Hag not wanting him. Meanwhile, there were reports far before then that he was going to be let go of after the season.

Step four
* Instead of bringing in someone else that can do the Job, they decided to give the manager 100% power.

The general consensus was that a strong DOF is needed for the rebuild of the club. Just like is the case with every other top club. But in the new rebuild embarked on by the manager, the owners did the exact opposite.

But they're not at fault abi?

PtolemySoter:
Even though the club is not exempt from blame ETH has to share in the blame big time. Him not keeping Rangnick is similar to when Moyes came from Everton and chased away most of SAF's backroom staff and felt he could do it with his own crew.

The club's culpability lies in them allowing a manager who had limited powers in a smaller club like Ajax to have such overriding powers at a much bigger club like Manchester United. He asked for almighty power with no evidence. Very foolish. They gave him almighty power with no evidence. Very foolish.

I'm not saying the manager is free of blames. He's the one that decided to take on the burden.Man should've known he was joining a Circus immediately they agreed to give him full control.

Anyone that goes to Liverpool and asks for the same will be kicked out of the interview.

PtolemySoter:
For those obsessing over afrodoc.

We all know you didn't recommend Onana, Afrodoc. We know you wanted Costa. 😄😄

dreamxhaser:
How did Newcastle get it right within a short time and we are still struggling after all these years

Dem never fully begin spend their saudi money ooo

I think kudos should be given to Eddie Howe

Trevor012:
Christobam is basically telling you the reason why teams are flogging us senselessly with 5 losses in our last 7 games including back to back trashing at old Trafford is because the club gave Erik ten hagg the players he personally requested for. If we didn't give Eth the players he personally hand picked we would have been flying right now with 7 straight wins. I blame lack of DOF for our current streaks of losing 😂😂

The more I try to make sense out of this, the more ridiculous it sounds

ChristoBam:
I don't want to start another batch of arguments.

But after Woodward was sacked, there was something we all called for. There's something we all thought was going to happen.

When ETH was hired, we called for one particular appointment, why wasn't it made?

I remember during the arguments I argued then about how Klopp didn't want Salah. But was put under pressure to sign him. That alone made a huge difference. But everyone said we were hoodwinked by a fraud like Rangnick.

But nah, the owners have no fault, it's all on LVG, Mourinho, Ole, Ten Hag and whoever takes the job next.

Ten Hag should have listened to LVG and not moved to this circus of a club.

Let's not twist the narrative....

Klopp's emphasis was that the scouts did a good job in convincing him about Salah. Scouts waxing lyrical about certain players is perfectly normal - it is up to the manager to either accept or decline their recommendations.

Trivia: Senior players (Giggs, G.Neville etc) were the ones that convinced SAF to sign Ronaldo

Jokerman:
The 400M Erik 7 Hag has spent, is for what? Eba?😬...

Look at the clowns Erik 7 Hag signed /has signed to the club.

Weghorst
Stabilizer
Malacia
Mount
Onana

At least add the good ones too.

ChristoBam:
People that actually think deeply about this said everything from the beginning.


Step one.
* We all agreed we needed a competent DOF to be in charge of the rebuild of the club.

Step two.
* They 'started' the process by actually bringing in a competent DOF but as an interim manager.

Step three
*They threw everything aside immediately they brought in a manager. They used the excuse of Ten Hag not wanting him. Meanwhile, there were reports far before then that he was going to be let go of after the season.

Step four
* Instead of bringing in someone else that can do the Job, they decided to give the manager 100% power.

The general consensus was that a strong DOF is needed for the rebuild of the club. Just like is the case with every other top club. But in the new rebuild embarked on by the manager, the owners did the exact opposite.

But they're not at fault abi?

1. The agreement was that Ragnick would serve as a football consultant (whatever that meant). I can't remember him being in the mix for the DOF job.

2. Ragnick got a job as Austria's coach and by mutual consent, the above agreement was cancelled afterwards.

3. If you feel the current DOF isn't doing enough, call him out with facts and receipts without bringing in Ragnick abeg.

odizeey:
We all know you didn't recommend Onana, Afrodoc. We know you wanted Costa. 😄😄

Onana that i have known for a long time. That day i was just teasing you for switching to Onana over only one game but marine people don't have much understanding.

I gave multiple warnings about Onana's tendency to have brain touch but many people here said that they would manage it like that.
Well we have to manage it until the season ends. We should just pray to Otem that things improve either directly from him or from the defenders in front of him.

I suspect that even Kovar would have been a better option, which is why i suggested recalling him if Onana flops (cos i knew the likelihood of that was quite high).

And oh, like i said last month, Top 4 is gone for this season. That is why i am watching these games with relaxed mind. The crying and complaining you guys are doing after every match day i don do am since last month. I didn't even watch the Champions League match.

PtolemySoter:
Onana that i have known for a long time. That day i was just teasing you for switching to Onana over only one game but marine people don't have much understanding.

I gave multiple warnings about Onana's tendency to have brain touch but many people here said that they would manage it like that.
Well we have to manage it until the season ends. We should just pray to Otem that things improve either directly from him or from the defenders in front of him.

I suspect that even Kovar would have been a better option, which is why i suggested recalling him if Onana flops (cos i knew the likelihood of that was quite high).

And oh, like i said last month, Top 4 is gone for this season. That is why i am watching these games with relaxed mind. The crying and complaining you guys are doing after every match day i don do am since last month. I didn't even watch the Champions League match.

It's not a small matter.

It is well with us.

Top four does not look possible again, with the way Liverpool, Tottenham are playing. Otilor

odizeey:
It's not a small matter.

It is well with us.

Top four does not look possible again, with the way Liverpool, Tottenham are playing. Otilor

E don go. Gba fun oga e. As Osaze Odemwingie once said, "oyinbo na oyinbo".

PtolemySoter:
Even though the club is not exempt from blame ETH has to share in the blame big time. Him not keeping Rangnick is similar to when Moyes came from Everton and chased away most of SAF's backroom staff and felt he could do it with his own crew.

The club's culpability lies in them allowing a manager who had limited powers in a smaller club like Ajax to have such overriding powers at a much bigger club like Manchester United. He asked for almighty power with no evidence. Very foolish. They gave him almighty power with no evidence. Very foolish.

They gave him almighty power because we wanted him to join us. He was comfortable at Ajax, and we were desperate. He had an upper hand. If we did not sign him due to his conditions, same fans would have complained.

Same fans complaining that ETH was not given his targets are the ones complaining that the club is too trusting ETH with his targets. Na wa

ChristoBam:
It's actually meant for You, Nitrogen, Odizeey, Patrickmuf, Larride e.t c. Can't list everyone of you. Y'all are too fixated on the manager. And the true culprits hide in the midst of all these.

Fixated on the manager? Lol...

Who has led the call for the likes of Rashford and Bruno to be dropped? If they're not in form, who should drop them? Me or ETH?

Is it not here that we have been calling for Amrabat to be used as a CDM with Dalot as LB and Lindelof at RB to solidify our defence? Who is supposed to do the needful? Me or ETH?

Someone pointed out that Casemiro was always closer to the opposition's goal whenever we are with the ball hence it is easy for them to cut through our midfield like a hot knife through butter. Who is supposed to correct this anomaly? Me or ETH?

ETH takes the fall if he doesn't react to the poor performances of late and that is why we are heaping a good portion of the blame on him. If you misconstrue that to mean that we are too fixated on ETH then I am sorry, I overestimated your knowledge of how things work.

AdisaOwala:
1. The agreement was that Ragnick would serve as a football consultant (whatever that meant). I can't remember him being in the mix for the DOF job.

2. Ragnick got a job as Austria's coach and by mutual consent, the above agreement was cancelled afterwards.

3. If you feel the current DOF isn't doing enough, call him out with facts and receipts without bringing in Ragnick abeg.

I am waiting for ChristoBam to point out how the current person in the position has failed. I am dead sure if we had appointed a DoF and we were struggling after the DoF refused to sanction the purchase of Mount, Antony, Martinez etc. then they'd have been saying we are struggling because the DoF refused to get ETH his preferred targets but seeing how he got all his targets bar FDJ which is not the fault of the club, they have immediately shifted attention to the DoF, accusing him of getting every player ETH recommends. The management of the club can never get it right in their eyes so, it is pointless even expecting a rational argument from some folks here.

eph12:
Same fans complaining that ETH was not given his targets are the ones complaining that the club is too trusting ETH with his targets. Na wa

It just does not make any sense. Do people read what they write here?

Jokerman:
🤣🤣🤣..

Why did you sack Valverde or even Koeman?😬

Barca's standard is higher than ManYoo's.

TLona1:
Erik Ten Slag this season:

-Bottled supercup to PSV losing 4-1 at their own stadium

-Bottled UCL to a shit Benfica

-Bottled cup final to PSV who played Leicester 3 days prior

-Possibly bottling the league to PSV despite referee robberies

United is signing mid once again.

Lana1 called me a mad man then.

patrickmuf:
I am waiting for ChristoBam to point out how the current person in the position has failed. I am dead sure if we had appointed a DoF and we were struggling after the DoF refused to sanction the purchase of Mount, Antony, Martinez etc. then they'd have been saying we are struggling because the DoF refused to get ETH his preferred targets but seeing how he got all his targets bar FDJ which is not the fault of the club, they have immediately shifted attention to the DoF, accusing him of getting every player ETH recommends. The management of the club can never get it right in their eyes so, it is pointless even expecting a rational argument from some folks here.

The bolded is why I am in full support of the supposed autonomy ETH is enjoying with respect to transfers.

Like you said, assuming the DOF "imposed" his own players on ETH, the story would change to "ah, the manager is being made to work with the players forced on him by the DOF" blah blah

TLona1:
Barca's standard is higher than ManYoo's.

🤣🤣🤣

Man utd > Barca

Newcastle never even begin blow their "Oyel Money" sef 😕😠😠..

Na wa oo

Havertz29s:
Sadly, this might be our last party here till after the international break because i see manyoo upsetting brentford and yes you heard it from me first.
After party by patoranking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4GrVwys4dY

You sabi wella, correct jam.

But then you just never know....we must still party here international break or not.

Jokerman:
🤣🤣🤣

Man utd > Barca

Even you yourself are finding it hard to believe this.

patrickmuf:
Fixated on the manager? Lol...

Who has led the call for the likes of Rashford and Bruno to be dropped? If they're not in form, who should drop them? Me or ETH?

Is it not here that we have been calling for Amrabat to be used as a CDM with Dalot as LB and Lindelof at RB to solidify our defence? Who is supposed to do the needful? Me or ETH?

Someone pointed out that Casemiro was always closer to the opposition's goal whenever we are with the ball hence it is easy for them to cut through our midfield like a hot knife through butter. Who is supposed to correct this anomaly? Me or ETH?

ETH takes the fall if he doesn't react to the poor performances of late and that is why we are heaping a good portion of the blame on him. If you misconstrue that to mean that we are too fixated on ETH then I am sorry, I overestimated your knowledge of how things work.

No oo. Glazers need to involve in training sessions and help ETH pick tactics and style of play.

PtolemySoter:
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E don go. Gba fun oga e. As Osaze Odemwingie once said, "oyinbo na oyinbo".

AdisaOwala:
1. The agreement was that Ragnick would serve as a football consultant (whatever that meant). I can't remember him being in the mix for the DOF job.

2. Ragnick got a job as Austria's coach and by mutual consent, the above agreement was cancelled afterwards.

3. If you feel the current DOF isn't doing enough, call him out with facts and receipts without bringing in Ragnick abeg.

1) Would Ten Hag get a 100% control of transfers if Rangnick was here? Let's not start arguing about technicalities of job description. We all know what he was going to be doing.

2) RR didn't leave United because of an offer. We all know the reason he left. A lot of you gave the excuse he left because Ten Hag wanted him out. Let's not start changing history or else everything's a waste of time.

3) I don't need to specifically mention the current DOF is incompetent. What type of dolt would think otherwise.

AdisaOwala:
The bolded is why I am in full support of the supposed autonomy ETH is enjoying with respect to transfers.

Like you said, assuming the DOF "imposed" his own players on ETH, the story would change to "ah, the manager is being made to work with the players forced on him by the DOF" blah blah

Tell me how you'd know ETH's supposed targets if a competent DOF was here.

How do you know these guys without United getting linked to them?

If Ten Hag wants Mount and the the DOF thinks he's wide off the mark as to what we need and convinces the manager to target Paulinha. Paulinha becomes the manager's target.

The only reason we know the 'manager's list' is because he's in full control.