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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by AntiChristian: 9:29pm On Oct 07, 2023
Chetas81:
who's brother

Atikuobi

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by favor914: 9:30pm On Oct 07, 2023
shinealight:


This lady should enlighten us as to the difference between a “forged document” and a “replacement document certified by the institution that issued the original to you in the first place”.
If her knowledge does not extend to that degree, she should leave the honourable justices of the Supreme Court to do their job! cool cool
Na record fines they await Atiku Malu Abubakar & his boy Gringory Obi for The Supreme Court of Nigeria.

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by skj1377(m): 9:30pm On Oct 07, 2023
Even Atiku knows his fate . He has no victory in sight . Eastern youths are in denial as usual. Life goes on.

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Jonjam269: 9:30pm On Oct 07, 2023
This deluded obidot racrook has been opening different topics before and after the presidential election to wail unnecessarily, all your epistle, falsehood, wailing and propaganda always end in the mud while Asiwaju continue to rule you and your sit at home region. Loser.

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by greggng: 9:31pm On Oct 07, 2023
aybabz101:
One of the major problems we have in this country is that of our weak institutions....this should have been verified prior to the conduct of the polls by our security agencies.....

Also, we need no stick to the facts here and not mere emotions......

Tinubu did attend CSU.
Tinubu sworn under oath that his certificates including his A levels were destroyed in a fire incidence.
CSU do not issue certificates twice to students
A lost certificate can be replaced by a third party vendor

The next step is for Atiku to verify if the submitted certificate was actually issued to Tinubu by a third party vendor......

To me, Atiku should ditch the case of certificate forgery because following the these facts, he has no case.

But the major achilles heel in this Tinubu saga is how he got admitted to CSU in the first place

He used A levels to gain admission into CSU and these A levels has descripancies

Atiku should investigate these demographic discrepancies in the A levels .....

and if it shows that the A levels belong to another person, his admission into CSU can be nullified and his certificate rescinded......

Then, Tinubu would have failed to meet the minimum requirement of WASC for the position of Nigerian president which will invalidate his presidency.....

But i believe if Tinubu can be triumphant in this case.....Atiku is finished in Nigeria

I was following your write up untill you spoil the whole thing by saying atiku is finished in Nigeria. So if he didn't become president he is finished? He has become a governor? A vice president and he many investment...In all ramifications he is a success.

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by favor914: 9:32pm On Oct 07, 2023
greggng:


I was following your write up untill you spoil the whole thing by saying atiku is finished in Nigeria. So if he didn't become president he is finished? He has become a governor? A vice president and he many investment...In all ramifications he is a success.
Atiku Malu Abubakar is finished, good night Waziri Adamawa.
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Blitzerz: 9:34pm On Oct 07, 2023
Even police and keyamo don answer the question before

Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by MRMRMR: 9:35pm On Oct 07, 2023
Comedians and wailers grin grin grin grin
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by megpro(m): 9:36pm On Oct 07, 2023
1970 and 1974 comes to mind
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by tunjilana: 9:39pm On Oct 07, 2023
Stricker321:


How did Mmesoma forge JAMB when she graduated from secondary and sat for JAMB and passed? cheesy grin

Firstly Jamb is a Nigerian institution and it doesn't even issue certificates, maybe Waec or Neco would have bn an equal reference. And speaking of, Neco is a Nigerian institution, The certificates issues by Nigerian institutions are not just ceremonial, they are the actual evidence of what is portrayed on it and can be taken @ face value. So if I present an original NECO certificate to any institution anywhere in the world, and they reachout to NECO for affirmation, NECO is obliged to honor it as proof of sitting for the exam and scoring those grades. Forging same is tantamount to fraud.

CSU is not a Nigerian institution and any certificate carrying their name is meant to be ceremonial, meaning if you present a CSU or any other American certificate to CSU for confirmation, they are not obliged to honor same as proof of attendance and graduation, they only use same to vet your academic record to see if you really did attend and graduate unlike NECo who only need to check if the certificate was issued by them and that is it.

This is where INEC either needs to update their procedure to ask for the right document based on the country where you schooled. If in the US, it should be transcript.

Another twist could be that INEC will tell you that they have a vetting process that includes writing the school to vet issued certificates and tell you they did that for Tinubu and CSU confirmed his academic records even before bn cleared to contest

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Thinkfree(m): 9:39pm On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:
Forgery undermines the integrity of educational qualifications, and it's imperative to maintain the sanctity of academic records. Tinubu nah ogbologbo for oluwoleism. Fear the man.He can forge a human being if possible.

Let’s see how the Supreme Court of technicalities and corruption will spurn another narrative with this messy scandal. Karma is a bitch. It does not forgives or forgets.
what will happen if tinubu wins in the supreme Court?
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by descartes400: 9:39pm On Oct 07, 2023
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by prickursense: 9:40pm On Oct 07, 2023
This is what AI ChatGPT said will happen to Nigeria if this matter is not handled properly:

If Nigeria's president were to be accused of forging a university degree from Chicago State University, the implications for Nigeria would depend on how the accusations are investigated, verified, and addressed. Here are some potential implications:

Legal Consequences:

Investigation: Accusations of forging a university degree would likely lead to investigations by law enforcement agencies and relevant authorities to determine the veracity of the claims.
Potential Criminal Charges: If evidence of forgery is found, the president could face criminal charges, which may lead to legal proceedings and potential penalties, including imprisonment.
Political Impact:

Loss of Credibility: Such accusations can erode public trust and confidence in the president, the government, and the ruling party.
Opposition Demands: Opposition parties and civil society groups may demand investigations, accountability, and possibly the president's resignation.
Social Unrest:

Protests and Demonstrations: Accusations of forgery could lead to public protests, demonstrations, and social unrest as citizens express their dissatisfaction and demand accountability.
Polarization: The issue could further polarize Nigerian society along political and ethnic lines, potentially leading to divisions and conflicts.
International Reputation:

Diplomatic Impact: Nigeria's international reputation may suffer, affecting its diplomatic relations and standing in the international community.
Economic Consequences: Foreign investors and international partners may become cautious, impacting foreign direct investment and economic cooperation.
Rule of Law:

Rule of Law and Accountability: The case would test the strength of Nigeria's institutions, including its judiciary, in upholding the rule of law and ensuring accountability at the highest levels of government.
Institutional Integrity: The credibility of institutions responsible for verifying qualifications, conducting investigations, and upholding the law may be on the line.
Economic Stability:

Economic Impact: Political instability and uncertainty can have adverse effects on the Nigerian economy, potentially leading to decreased investor confidence and economic slowdown.
Public Perception:

Trust in Leadership: Accusations of forgery can contribute to a loss of trust in political leadership, making it more challenging for the government to implement policies and gain public support.

It's important to note that the specific implications would depend on various factors, including the strength of Nigeria's institutions, the level of public awareness and engagement, the credibility of the evidence presented, and how the government and legal system handle the accusations. Additionally, the political, social, and economic consequences could vary depending on the reactions of different stakeholders within Nigeria and internationally. The situation would require a thorough, transparent, and credible investigation to determine the truth and uphold the rule of law.


If there is no effective rule of law in a country, the implications of accusations of forgery against a sitting president can be even more complex and troubling. In such a scenario, the absence of a robust legal framework and functioning institutions can exacerbate the situation in several ways:

Impunity:

Lack of Accountability: Without a functioning rule of law, there may be little to no accountability for government officials, including the president, for their actions, including accusations of forgery.
Political Instability:

Potential for Violence: Accusations against the president may lead to political instability, protests, and potentially even violence if citizens believe that traditional legal avenues for addressing such issues are unavailable.
Suppression of Dissent:

Repression: In countries without a rule of law, governments often resort to repressive measures to suppress dissent and opposition voices, making it difficult for citizens to voice their concerns or demand accountability.
International Isolation:

Diplomatic Consequences: International condemnation and isolation may occur, with other countries and international organizations expressing concern about the situation and potentially imposing sanctions or restrictions.
Economic Downturn:

Economic Uncertainty: Political instability and a lack of rule of law can deter foreign investments and negatively impact economic growth, potentially leading to economic downturns and hardships for citizens.
Further Erosion of Trust:

Public Distrust: The lack of accountability and transparency can further erode public trust in the government and its leaders, leading to a breakdown in social cohesion and governance.
Potential for Strongman Rule:

Autocratic Tendencies: In situations where there is no rule of law, leaders may consolidate power and resort to autocratic measures to maintain their hold on power, potentially exacerbating governance issues.

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Okechinwadike: 9:40pm On Oct 07, 2023
AntiChristian:


How can I forge my certificate when I attended the school and graduated?

Get sense now!

All you Osubidients wey dey disgrace yourselves online!

IQ - zero
Wisdom - minus 10
Knowledge - F9
Understanding - minus 1000
you be real ODE the certificate CSU gave him is different from what he submitted to INEC that is the context, stop embarrassing your self dude

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by socialmediaman: 9:41pm On Oct 07, 2023
AntiChristian:


Go back to school!

Money is defined as a legal tender in which a set of persons agree upon its usage as a means of exchange....


How does the counterfeit qualify?

Do that also with your drivers license and explain to road safety later

Tell them you didn't impersonate anyone, you reprinted your lost drivers license at a business center with your own information

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Thinkfree(m): 9:42pm On Oct 07, 2023
Stricker321:


Tinubu will be removed this year from Aso Rock. The Supreme Court owe it to Nigeria as a moral duty.

Wait for FBI files angry grin
to enemies of Nigeria you mean to say
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Stricker321: 9:43pm On Oct 07, 2023
tunjilana:


Firstly Jamb is a Nigerian institution and it doesn't even issue certificates, maybe Waec or Neco would have bn an equal reference. And speaking of, Neco is a Nigerian institution, The certificates issues by Nigerian institutions are not just ceremonial, they are the actual evidence of what is portrayed on it and can be taken @ face value. So if I present an original NECO certificate to any institution anywhere in the world, and they reachout to NECO for affirmation, NECO is obliged to honor it as proof of sitting for the exam and scoring those grades. Forging same is tantamount to fraud.

CSU is not a Nigerian institution and any certificate carrying their name is meant to be ceremonial, meaning if you present a CSU or any other American certificate to CSU for confirmation, they are not obliged to honor same as proof of attendance and graduation, they only use same to vet your academic record to see if you really did attend and graduate unlike NECo who only need to check if the certificate was issued by them and that is it.

This is where INEC either needs to update their procedure to ask for the right document based on the country where you schooled. If in the US, it should be transcript.

Another twist could be that INEC will tell you that they have a vetting process that includes writing the school to vet issued certificates and tell you they did that for Tinubu and CSU confirmed his academic records even before bn cleared to contest



CSU has disowned the certificate so there's nothing INEC can write now. Why didn't Tinubu simply apply and collect his diploma from CSU? Why did he have to create one for himself?
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by AntiChristian: 9:44pm On Oct 07, 2023
Okechinwadike:
you be real ODE the certificate CSU gave him is different from what he submitted to INEC that is the context, stop embarrassing your self dude

Ndi ara, meshionu gi!

Third party vendors certificate are allowed in the states since certificate are just ceremonial unlike Nigeria!

Read the above well and digest it.

In the states, emphasis is on the transcript not certificate!
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by MatrixCircle: 9:44pm On Oct 07, 2023
Jaga-ban . This two joint words.
Jaga jaga and ban cool shocked shocked shocked shocked shine your eyes it's not for nothing.
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Thinkfree(m): 9:45pm On Oct 07, 2023
Okechinwadike:
you be real ODE the certificate CSU gave him is different from what he submitted to INEC that is the context, stop embarrassing your self dude
did he forge the grade or class of degree he graduated with?
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Okechinwadike: 9:47pm On Oct 07, 2023
AntiChristian:
May Allah grant all these Osubidients sense!

May Allah prevent them from having high BP after supreme court judgement!
only your useless name define you
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by SpecialAdviser(m): 9:47pm On Oct 07, 2023
AntiChristian:


If I lose then I can produce another to replace it if it's in the US!
What if he didn't bother to produce another one through the right channel?
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by AntiChristian: 9:49pm On Oct 07, 2023
socialmediaman:


Do that also with your drivers license and explain to road safety later

Tell them you didn't impersonate anyone, you reprinted your lost drivers license at a business center with your own information

How is these related to ceremonial certificate obtained in the US in the 70s?

The way you guys think when you hate people ehn!
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Exceed15: 9:50pm On Oct 07, 2023
AntiChristian:


How can I forge my certificate when I attended the school and graduated?

Get sense now!

All you Osubidients wey dey disgrace yourselves online!

IQ - zero
Wisdom - minus 10
Knowledge - F9
Understanding - minus 1000


U get comprehensive problem. Let me help you. He attended the school and earned a certificate. Listen o , Tinubu claimed he lost the certificate during military invasion hence went to obtain a replacement from the vendor and doctored it ( in other words tampered or altered it) then submitted it to INEC. Now listen o, CSU is now saying that the replacement he got and given to INEC cannot be authenticated by the school. There are lots of decrepancies joor. What would u do if the sex on ur cert is carrying "F" instead of" M". I m sure u won't take lightly. BAT is not innocent.

My question is what would it take bat to go to the obtain another one instead of going to "road side" Infact d school said he has not come to collect his results so how come he lost in first place? Bro Tinubu no Sabi both o

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Hassanmaye(m): 9:52pm On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:

https://thenigerialawyer.com/tinubu-certificate-scandal-constitutional-implications/ nlfpmod
How can I get My article published on nairaland on law?? Did she paid? I can pay, I have been writing so many articles.
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by benardtotti(m): 9:52pm On Oct 07, 2023
Racoon:

https://thenigerialawyer.com/tinubu-certificate-scandal-constitutional-implications/ nlfpmod

It has gotten so bad for you guys that you are now quoting a law student who is yet to write law school exams ? Na who do una this thing ? You guys need to visit MFM for deliverance.
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Thinkfree(m): 9:53pm On Oct 07, 2023
Jonjam269:
This deluded obidot racrook has been opening different topics before and after the presidential election to wail unnecessarily, all your epistle, falsehood, wailing and propaganda always end in the mud while Asiwaju continue to rule you and your sit at home region. Loser.
he is big loser and will remain so for a very long time.
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by AntiChristian: 9:53pm On Oct 07, 2023
SpecialAdviser:

What if he didn't bother to produce another one through the right channel?

In the US, as far as certificates is concerned, it is ceremonial and most people don't place importance to it.

What they certify and hold important is the transcript!

So even if he printed the certificate in his house, it's still not forgery in law since the information is true that he attended the school and graduated!
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by tunjilana: 9:53pm On Oct 07, 2023
Stricker321:


CSU has disowned the certificate so there's nothing INEC can write now. Why didn't Tinubu simply apply and collect his diploma from CSU? Why did he have to create one for himself?


Atiku's lawyer : The candidate submitted a forged certificate
Tinubu's Lawyer: It isnt forged, my client attended and graduated from the school, and the procedures of the school allows for third-party reproduction of genuinely acquired certificates after the first issuance, which is what my client presented
Judge: Summons INEC to confirm if they vetted the certificates and to understand their vetting process
INEC : either confirms that they vetted the certificate and feedback tally's with Tinubu's lawyer or the court orders them to write CSU to vet the certificate

If we are to go by the deposition, the feedback will always be what Tinubu's lawyer said and it will be a closed case

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Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by AntiChristian: 9:54pm On Oct 07, 2023
Okechinwadike:
only your useless name define you

Your name too dey useless!

Some Igbos regard chi as idol!
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Rayban26: 9:55pm On Oct 07, 2023
AntiChristian:


What's your discipline?

How does his his discipline correlate with this issue? Even if he tells you what he studied please how does it concern tinubu? Una stupidity just dey factory fitted
Re: Tinubu Certificate Scandal: Constitutional Implications By Aisha Mohammed Agashi by Thinkfree(m): 9:56pm On Oct 07, 2023
Exceed15:



U get comprehensive problem. Let me help you. He attended the school and earned a certificate. Listen o , Tinubu claimed he lost the certificate during military invasion hence went to obtain a replacement from the vendor and doctored it ( in other words tampered or altered it) then submitted it to INEC. Now listen o, CSU is now saying that the replacement he got and given to INEC cannot be authenticated by the school. There are lots of decrepancies joor. What would u do if the sex on ur cert is carrying "F" instead of" M". I m sure u won't take lightly. BAT is not innocent.

My question is what would it take bat to go to the obtain another one instead of going to "road side" Infact d school said he has not come to collect his results so how come he lost in first place? Bro Tinubu no Sabi both o
a very big idiots that what you are, where did you get this from?

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