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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Cmeo(m): 8:31am On Oct 16, 2023
NBTE isn't ashamed of it, now everyone is just embarrassing them.
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by frankson1(m): 8:33am On Oct 16, 2023
dfrost:


Na people wey still dey waste time dey look for conversion.

Work your years of experience up, do relevant certifications, acquire business skills in addition to whatever skills you have and do an MBA and move up to the C level.

Unless you are looking at lecturing in the future, then get going with PGD, Masters and PhD.



Certifications is just the way especially for those in the Marine, Oil and Gas industry.

I'm advising everyone to start getting CERTIFIED.

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by ALARAPE22(m): 8:34am On Oct 16, 2023
Lovenorth:
If you want a degree go to the university, you can't do HND and expect a degree certificate. There is no shortcut in life grin. You can't plant maize and harvest rice grin

Nigeria mentality. Try to register for PMP certification you will understand that BSC and HND are the same degree....

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by dfrost: 8:38am On Oct 16, 2023
frankson1:




Certifications is just the way especially for those in the Marine, Oil and Gas industry.

I'm advising everyone to start getting CERTIFIED.

My brother in most fields except medicals. Then MBA because as one advances in his/her career, you need to tie everything down to business.

It's all about the cheese 🧀 at the end of the day.

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Aaaaarghmed(m): 8:38am On Oct 16, 2023
Lol..HND o,Bsc o,no matter as far as your are determined.i have HND and where in worked in Nigeria.some Bsc never even get half of the job.everything na mind,grace and connection.no let anything limit you

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Nobody: 8:43am On Oct 16, 2023
I was busy explaining dielectrics, conductivity, pigeons on the red phase 240 volts low tension cable, how electrocution kills and the difference between voltage and current to one technician, the flabbergasting surprise in his face made me proud studying as an engineer.

Make everybody dey their lane, I was lucky to go through a polytechnic before university, there is no way we are learning same thing, then there was no way I could compete with a unizik student in calculus, so clear distinctions should be made.

I can diagnose a problem theoretically without getting dirty, a technician will need to get dirty with guesses or with years of experience to get to my level.

imagine where I served as an apprentice for years with my theory. NA DIE!

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Munamu: 8:48am On Oct 16, 2023
jaxin119:
One year crash programme is not sufficient enough to cover the extremely detailed course outline of the average university modules. Polytechnic course outline is very slim/limited and designed for middle level manpower.

That is how the GEJ's administration made a strategic mistake by introducing girls into the Nigerian Defence Academy resulting to reduced level of military training accross board. Today the result is the production of tiktok officers and excessive dead of officers and men in the North East.
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Hamphat: 8:56am On Oct 16, 2023
Omo
If you no want to be HND holder pls don't go poly, wait for for uni stop bringing confusion to moi kontry pls.

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Raf4: 8:56am On Oct 16, 2023
NUC should be more concerned about how its products cannot speak or write a single sentence free of grammatical blunders.
In the corporate world, University products embarrass themselves more than the Polytechnic's. That's first hand experience.

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Kruzxx: 8:58am On Oct 16, 2023
ccrazy:
I was busy explaining dielectrics, conductivity, pigeons on the red phase 240 volts low tension cable, how electrocution kills and the difference between voltage and current to one technician, the flabbergasting surprise in his face made me proud studying as an engineer.

Make everybody dey their lane, I was lucky to go through a polytechnic before university, there is no way we are learning same thing, then there was no way I could compete with a unizik student in calculus, so clear distinctions should be made.

I can diagnose a problem theoretically without getting dirty, a technician will need to get dirty with guesses or with years of experience to get to my level.

imagine where I served as an apprentice for years with my theory. NA DIE!



What you did in polytechnic was it ND or HND,. I have a Hnd in Accounting,I have friends that did bsc in accounting it's practically the same courses both the theories and calculations. ICAN the accounting professional body requirement is Hnd or bsc same with almost all if not all professional bodies. At a time UK closed all poly and converted to university,some uk university do direct mba for hnd holders, Nigeria has been left behind with bsc hnd brohala

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Mayeldah(m): 9:06am On Oct 16, 2023
Some organizations in Nigeria don't even discriminate btw HND and BSc, I know a lot of HND holders that are earning six figures here in Nigeria and I know a lot more BSc holders that can't find a job years after graduation.

NUC should rest, if they won't do it, they should allow foreign Universities willing to do the Top Up do it.

Who certificate epp?
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Munamu: 9:11am On Oct 16, 2023
jaxin119:
One year crash programme is not sufficient enough to cover the extremely detailed course outline of the average university modules. Polytechnic course outline is very slim/limited and designed for middle level manpower.

That is how the GEJ's administration made a strategic mistake by introducing girls into the Nigerian Defence Academy resulting to reduced level of military training accross board. Today the result is the production of tiktok officers and excessive dead of officers and men in the North East.


I disagree with you sir. I was a polytechnic student for 6 years. The discrimination encouraged me to go back to a university,but to study law. From my first to the fifth year as an undergraduate, I appreciated the polytechnic system. Courses like commercial law, company law, torts, Nigerian legal systems were walk over for me, because I did them in ND2 (financial studies). Mind you I did some of the courses in part 5 law. The polytechnic syllabus is more expanded than that of the university. The only different is the availability of PHD holders in theuniversity system. And from research, tutors with masters impact knowledge more than the so called PHD holders. If I can do major law courses as an ND1 and ND2 student of financial studies and the same courses( company law) are being taught at 500 level of law,then polytechnic education is not what you sweep underground.
The problem is from the policy makes. England where the polytechnic education is copied from awards degree. I

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by sexiestharam(f): 9:13am On Oct 16, 2023
dfrost:


Na people wey still dey waste time dey look for conversion.

Work your years of experience up, do relevant certifications, acquire business skills in addition to whatever skills you have and do an MBA and move up to the C level.

Unless you are looking at lecturing in the future, then get going with PGD, Masters and PhD.
Hope you are aware that you need to have a PGD to qualify for an MBA with an HND qualification?
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Isobug: 9:13am On Oct 16, 2023
jaxin119:
One year crash programme is not sufficient enough to cover the extremely detailed course outline of the average university modules. Polytechnic course outline is very slim/limited and designed for middle level manpower.

That is how the GEJ's administration made a strategic mistake by introducing girls into the Nigerian Defence Academy resulting to reduced level of military training accross board. Today the result is the production of tiktok officers and excessive dead of officers and men in the North East.
Probably, you didn't attend a polytechnic. Allow us that attended both Polytechnic and University to attest. How can you say polytechnic modules are slim compared to University. Perhaps they loaded you with extreneous materials in your university.
I studied Met and Mat Engineering in polytechnic and went on to start afresh for Pharmacy in University. No much difference between both. Just envious discrimination

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Isobug: 9:19am On Oct 16, 2023
Munamu:



I disagree with you sir. I was a polytechnic student for 6 years. The discrimination encouraged me to go back to a university,but to study law. From my first to the fifth year as an undergraduate, I appreciated the polytechnic system. Courses like commercial law, company law, torts, Nigerian legal systems were walk over for me, because I did them in ND2 (financial studies). Mind you I did some of the courses in part 5 law. The polytechnic syllabus is more expanded than that of the university. The only different is the availability of PHD holders in theuniversity system. And from research, tutors with masters impact knowledge more than the so called PHD holders. If I can do major law courses as an ND1 and ND2 student of financial studies and the same courses( company law) are being taught at 500 level of law,then polytechnic education is not what you sweep underground.
The problem is from the policy makes. England where the polytechnic education is copied from awards degree. I
I have also told the person you quoted my story. I studied Met and Mat Engineering in a polytechnic and went to start afresh for Pharmacy. I can tell you there is no much difference between acquiring both. In fact despite the seriousness of pharmacy, I still know I suffered a bit more for my HND. Perhaps he didn't test a polytechnic education. Just envious discrimination
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by stuffs2002: 9:26am On Oct 16, 2023
chloride6:
Don’t go to a polytechnic and start looking for a way to level up..

That is just daft ..

If you don’t like poly don’t go!


I totally agree with you.
Why go to polytechnic in the first place I only to be moaning upandan about discrimination.

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Xscape1993(m): 9:27am On Oct 16, 2023
Hemeenworth:
Only fools look down on Hnd

Though I'm a bsc holder
Nigeria is not a serious country. It is very obvious in all forms.
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by stuffs2002: 9:27am On Oct 16, 2023
ehikwe22:
There shouldn't be any dichotomy between these two institutions - it doesn't make any sense at all. HND should be equivalent of Bsc.


Stop being emotional.

The university system is totally different from polytechnic

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Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by stuffs2002: 9:31am On Oct 16, 2023
IamANigerianMan:

Mr. Bsc tell me one thing you have contributed to the society aside been a nuisance.. ?


Mr. HND, who forced you to go to poly?

Was it his fault that you failed to meet up with the higher requirements and academic progress required to graduate from a superior academic institution?
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by BigDawsNet: 9:32am On Oct 16, 2023
My advice for potential higher institutions students right now is that kukuma just focus on University now...

Thank God University is easy to gain addmission now.. you will see schools requesting, 180, 190, even some private 140 ... in our own time... to study Computer science Bsc.. you must have atleast 240 in jamb.. so now I belive the young once hav more opportunity now... so go to Universities unless its your personal choice to study in Polytechnic..

Polytechnic has its own advantage tho.. as you will be train technically
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by stuffs2002: 9:33am On Oct 16, 2023
OlujobaSamuel:
They don turn am to politics, the best thing is to do like Lagos State, turn all polytechnics to universities, make NBTE redundant, scrap it, rebrand NUC.
I obviously knew it would result to this, that's why I was against NBTE decision when it was announced a while ago.
For those claiming admission requirements, it's the same requirements, I have the two, the curriculum is also the same, I didn't learn anything different, except for ego that I'm now having so so qualification.

Na lie joo. The curriculum is not the same and the approach to education are not the same. Polytechnic is more of practicals while University was more theory and theory no be beans. Life is too easy in polytechnic that I was missing classes anyhow and still toping my class but dem no. born me well to try such in the university.

Mind you, I was studying engineering in both institutions at the same time
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by stuffs2002: 9:35am On Oct 16, 2023
Riversstate:
You do HND for four years, one year compulsory internship and then go for service and you say BSC big pass??

On what ground??

On the ground that the quality of education in polytechnic is far low. one year in university is equivalent to two years in polytechnic.
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by EleventhWeirdo: 9:36am On Oct 16, 2023
Kruzxx:




What you did in polytechnic was it ND or HND,. I have a Hnd in Accounting,I have friends that did bsc in accounting it's practically the same courses both the theories and calculations. ICAN the accounting professional body requirement is Hnd or bsc same with almost all if not all professional bodies. At a time UK closed all poly and converted to university,some uk university do direct mba for hnd holders, Nigeria has been left behind with bsc hnd brohala

ICAN is a professional institute. Let's not bring it into the discussion as the Bsc/hnd issue is about academic differentials. A B.sc accounting borrows courses and is more extensive in scope than an hnd accounting. A Bsc accounting would take mandatory courses in law, economics, philosophy, psychology, sociology, computer science, public administration/pol science, management, and do on. The aim is to develop a complete professional proficient in fields that are, outside of but relate to, financial management as a whole. In Poly, did you do all of these? I feel Poly focuses on training technicians. Even the sophistication of the learning content and instruction varies across the two
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by Figger(m): 9:38am On Oct 16, 2023
ehikwe22:
There shouldn't be any dichotomy between these two institutions - it doesn't make any sense at all. HND should be equivalent of Bsc.
Your sense of reasoning is quite shallow
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by BigBlackPreek(m): 9:38am On Oct 16, 2023
I'm a Bsc holder from University of Ibadan, though I do not underrate HND holders because both are of the same curriculum and same teachings only that universities involve a bit of more research work
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by OlujobaSamuel: 9:39am On Oct 16, 2023
stuffs2002:


Na lie joo. The curriculum is not the same and the approach to education are not the same
Do you have both??
My discipline is Social Sciences.
Admission requirements is 5credits for both.
I can't see any difference in the two, in fact, the result of the latter is better than the former
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by stuffs2002: 9:41am On Oct 16, 2023
BigBlackPreek:
I'm a Bsc holder from University of Ibadan, though I do not underrate HND holders because both are of the same curriculum and same teachings only that universities involve a bit of more research work


Na lie...

I was studying engineering in both polytechnic and university at the same time. There approaches are not the same and the curriculum are not the same
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by OlujobaSamuel: 9:43am On Oct 16, 2023
EleventhWeirdo:


ICAN is a professional institute. Let's not bring it into the discussion as the Bsc/hnd issue is about academic differentials. A B.sc accounting borrows courses and is more extensive in scope than an hnd accounting. A Bsc accounting would take mandatory courses in law, economics, philosophy, psychology, sociology, computer science, public administration/pol science, management, and do on. The aim is to develop a complete professional proficient in fields that are, outside of but relate to, financial management as a whole. In Poly, did you do all of these? I feel Poly focuses on training technicians. Even the sophistication of the learning content and instruction varies across the two
Yes, a HND Accounting will do all those listed courses you mentioned.
I remember doing Physics and Chemistry sef.
Except you have an encounter you won't really know their scope of study.
If you run a WES evaluation, it will equate it, that's why people go to US schools for Msc without any top up program.
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by stuffs2002: 9:43am On Oct 16, 2023
OlujobaSamuel:

Do you have both??
My discipline is Social Sciences.
Admission requirements is 5credits for both.
I can't see any difference in the two, in fact, the result of the latter is better than the former


Yes I have both..

I dedicated more time and other resources to the university than the polytechnic and I still had better result from polytechnic.
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by dfrost: 9:46am On Oct 16, 2023
sexiestharam:

Hope you are aware that you need to have a PGD to qualify for an MBA with an HND qualification?

Bros/Sis abeg, abeg e too early to argue cheesy grin The difference between two people is knowledge. Nigerian educational system is backward. Simple. We argue on unnecessary things.

Just to let you know, I have people in my circle that are studying for their MSc. in the US with HND. I also have people that have to do PGD with their BSc before securing same admission.

The western world is concerned about your GPA mainly and for you to show proof. I am no for or against the dichotomy. All I'm saying is know what works best for your interest and pursue it.
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by OlujobaSamuel: 9:48am On Oct 16, 2023
stuffs2002:



Na lie...

I was studying engineering in both polytechnic and university at the same time. There approaches are not the same and the curriculum are not the same
You were running the two together
Hope no be mushroom sch, as PT or FT student, I schooled in an institution you can't even try it, you have to drop one irrespective of how sound you are. The rigours isn't something you can cope with
Re: NUC Rejects Move By NBTE To Float A Programme To Upgrade HND To Degree by stuffs2002: 9:51am On Oct 16, 2023
OlujobaSamuel:

You were running the two together
Hope no be mushroom sch, as PT or FT student, I schooled in an institution you can't even try it, you have to drop one irrespective of how sound you are. The rigours isn't something you can cope with


I was studying Electronics Engineering in a Federal polytechnic and studying Electrical/Communications Engineering
in a Federal University.

I started the polytechnic first and even applied for the university while I was already a student in the polytechnic.

I now have a master's degree in Telecommunications Engineering from the federal university

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