We aint special, the universe didn't exist because of us, we just happened to be, a product of evolution, human race will extinct too, over time, the universe will still be here. We were not designed, we just happened to be, like all other life forms, subjects of evolution, life is nothing but a fleeting illusion.

creativehubb:
We aint special, the universe didn't exist because of us, we just happened to be, a product of evolution, human race will extinct too, over time, the universe will still be here. We were not designed, we just happened to be, like all other life forms, subjects of evolution, life is nothing but a fleeting illusion.

We are unique. Creative and takented and capable of much. The universe exists because of us on it thats why there isnt life elsewhere. Enough of these despondents talk. When youre depressed get something to uploft your spirit leave soeeches alone. Life isnt an illusion



We were designed specifically in the image of a creative and Genius creator otherwise relative theory in quantum physics, chemistry and biology wouldnt exist. Thats why when you look into the human cells, molecules, atoms, deep space, beneath the ocean we see a synchorny of brilloance. Its the signature of God appending that He created and owns all.


Only a fool says God doesnt exist

Wujio:



We are unique. Creative and takented and capable of much. The universe exists because of us on it thats why there isnt life elsewhere. Enough of these despondents talk. When youre depressed get something to uploft your spirit leave soeeches alone. Life isnt an illusion



We were designed specifically in the image of a creative and Genius creator otherwise relative theory in quantum physics, chemistry and biology wouldnt exists

There is an energy source, that creates all life forms, but not in the way we look at it, the energy source don't care about our religion and is not a being as we see it, if you know the vastness of the universe, and how little we know about it, you will get my point.

We are not sure there is no life elsewhere, we have not traversed or seen the whole universe, we can only observe a fraction of it, we have not been able to build space crafts to go that far into other galaxies, we are mainly traversing our galaxy, and nearby planetary bodies.

How are we sure there are no more intelligent life forms out there in outer space, in far away universe that our space crafts, and telescope can't reach?

How intelligent are we, if all we are doing is heading to self destruct... destroying the environment with fossil fuels, and creating nuclear weapons, the capitalist system of greed, the many wars and destructive tendencies...are we really intelligent?

Our religion, look at how we operate it, divisive, hate other religion, hypocrisy...is this the definition of being righteous?

There is mysticism, as quantum physics try to explain, but it's not religion, religion is man made, a machination to control others and spread influence, take your time to study how the major religions came into existence, you will see it's a farce.

We ain't special.

Human race is a joke.

creativehubb:

There is an energy source, that creates all life forms, but not in the way we look at it, the energy source don't care about our religion and is not a being as we see it, if you know the vastness of the universe, and how little we know about it, you will get my point.

How are we sure there are no more intelligent life forms out there in outer space, in far away universe that our space crafts, and telescope can't reach?

How intelligent are we, if all we are doing is heading to self destruct... destroying the environment with fossil fuels, and creating nuclear weapons, the capitalist system of greed, the many wars and destructive tendencies...are we really intelligent?

Our religion, look at how we operate it, divisive, hate other religion, hypocrisy...is this the definition of being righteous?

There is mysticism, as quantum physics try to explain, but it's not religion, religion is man made, a machination to control others and spread influence, take your time to study how the major religions came into existence, you will see it's a farce.

We ain't special.

Human race is a joke.

You are close to the kingdom of God. You are only making some mistakes. We all started even far less knowledgeable than you but whenw e searched we eventually got it right albeot after process. If you earnestly yearn for the truth, He will reveal all thins to you and correct your wrongs


Indeed, God is also or otherwise termed, The Source. He never created religion atall. He out of love created the world and planned to create beings who would be in His form in form of His will, His desires and His intentions but this plab got disrupted and corrupted

Wujio:




You are close to the kingdom of God. You are only making some mistakes. We all started even far less knowledgeable than you but whenw e searched we eventually got it right albeot after process. If you earnestly yearn for the truth, He will reveal all thins to you and correct your wrongs

Open up to enlightenment beyond the limitations of your religion, you will see clearly. There is an energy source that drives all life forms, but it's not the way we see it, we are not the focus of all attention. Look at the age of the universe and the age of mankind...and how long human race will be here, compared to how long this earth, talk more of the universe will last.

There have been other life forms here before we emerged, dinosaur, big reptiles etc...

creativehubb:

Open up to enlightenment beyond the limitations of your religion, you will see clearly. There is an energy source that drives all life forms, but it's not the way we see it, we are not the focus of all attention. Look at the age of the universe and the age of mankind...and how long human race will be here, compared to how long this earth, talk more of the universe will last.

There have been other life forms here before we emerged, dinosaur, big reptiles etc...

Lolz. Calm your mind down. Im trained in Nuclear Chemistry and Physics, Biochemistry, Biotechnoglogy, Genetics, astronomy. Engineering etc. You think my choosing to acknowledge and to Worship God i havent spent three decades on searching ?


What can science teach me? Science is just a willful servant of My Father, 5,700 years before the world knew what cell division was he carried out bone marrow transplant, split cells to create life. Is this The Lord you want to define through the lens of science. God forbid. I am not blind not dying woth this dying world


Theres none that compares to The Almighty God

Wujio:




Lolz. Calm your mind down. Im trained in Nuclear Chemistry and Physics, Biochemistry, Biotechnoglogy, Genetics, astronomy. Engineering etc. You think my choosing to acknowledge and to Worship God i havent spent three decades on searching ?

Humans coined the word 'God'...but my point is, it's not all about us, we are small, almost inconsequential in the grand scheme, am happy you mentioned quantum physics, it explains all our mystical realms, and spiritual manifestations. The earth is millions of years old, human race is just about 200,000 years, am sure you know human race is older than the story of Adam though...

NewManFred:


Listen to yourself. Asking me if I've seen things that you yourself haven't seen and can't provide any concrete evidence for

I didn't create this thread to discuss religion. And when I refer to the creator I refer not to a particular God of a particular religion but to whichever creator anyone believes despite his religion

But since you are clearly speaking from a Christian perspective, I will respond in that respect.

If your God created this sick place called Earth and still prepared an ever worse place called hell to torture people forever despite the severity of their crimes, not even taking into consideration the environments they grew up in or the personalities and brains that were born with that they didn't choose for themeslves, then that God is definitely a sadistic being and confirms everything I've been saying.

What being tortures people in fire for eternity? Can you torture humans in fire for even 10 minutes straight? Of course you can't. Because you have compassion and empathy, something your God clearly doesn't have.

The only people who torture people endlessly are sadistic psychopaths who derive pleasure from watching people suffer.

Baba, I share in your truth, and I have been opened into all these in these past few years. Also I don't have the strength to argue these issues out on platforms like this unless I'm face to face with someone.

However, spiritual teachings have it that every one who is born on earth agreed to come initially, so with this, we may not be able to blame God entirely or at all. Most of these truths can only be gotten in some indigenous religions (not Xtianity /Islam) and when you juxtapose it with some near death experiences by people they tell similar experiences.

Also we all have different reasons for coming and we realise the difficulty of survival in the world however, we still choose to come. It's in the process of landing here that we forget purpose. This also looks faulty but there are some reasons for it.

But like I said about indigenous religions, some clearly outline the paths and purpose when we seek inquiries as soon as we are born or later in life, but it's a pity that the indigenous religions are somewhat neglected and not given heed to until some few decide to make enquiries when they are really having it rough in life.

For example, in Chinese philosophy, yin and yang symbol summarizes that the world is created with light and dark energy, that is positive and negative the light has a tint of darkness and the darkness has a tint of light to create a kind of balance in the universe. This philosophy is even older than Buddhism and more of a Tao concept.

Now, in my language (Yoruba), there's no symbol of this, but oral teaching from the wise ones and elders always tell us that world is created in good and evil, there's evil in the good and good in the evil. Now, these similarities of knowledge gives more truth about life's perception than the most current religions give. In fact, the propagation of the two major religions we have now are mostly tainted with lies and fantasies, so most true ancient knowledge are lost. And they are very skilled in blocking the eyes of the crowd from reality and also creating massive stupidity out of great multitude of people.

I can go on and on, but this platform is limited in disseminating opinions. But I believe you would relate with some things I have said.

Finally, it's like the world is like an operational place where energy is propelled to other realms for use and all of our activities both positive and negative squeezes out these energies.
Some will say here is a farm where higher forces harvest goodies whenever they wish

creativehubb:

Humans coined the word 'God'...but my point is, it's not all about us, we are small, almost inconsequential in the grand scheme, am happy you mentioned quantum physics, it explains all our mystical realms, and spiritual manifestations.

We are almost inconsequential. But not entirely so. We were created to The Glory of His will to Praise Him. Hence Job would say 4,000 years back if i die, no one would praise You !

Wujio:



We are almost inconsequential. But not entirely so. We were created to The Glory of His will to Praise Him. Hence Job would say 4,000 years back if i die, no one would praise You !

You seem really learned, but when you say humans are intelligent and unique I beg to disagree, if really we are intelligent, we won't be heading towards self destruction, of course I salute the geniuses that created the machinations that makes our earthly life comfortable, but we are doing way too much.

creativehubb:

You seem really learned, but when you say humans are intelligent and unique I beg to disagree, if really we are intelligent, we won't be heading towards self destruction, of course I salute the geniuses that created the machinations that makes our earthly life comfortable, but we are doing way too much.

Here lies the problem. I am writing a book to explain why everything collapsed after creation.

It is complex, but when a woman commits adultery and gives birth to a chld and gives the child to another man, she can begin to say at first, thank goodness he doesn't know. But approaching teens, the child life then begins to behave in ways different from the man she gives the child to to father. This is where what's in the blood shows where it truly comes from. The first woman committed adultery with a specie not entirely human, and why she screamed, Alas, with the help of God I have given birth to a human, the body was human, but the blood was troubled and the trouble in the blood and gene pool began to reveal itself


The child was a farmer and was informed how to make sacrifice plaeing to God, rather than go to his brother and excahnge farm produce cause he farmed, he choose to express his worship how it pleased him,when he was confronted, He killed his brother assuming it would cleanse his problem. A cursory look into his character reveals he was abnormal and a psycho

Wujio:



Here lies the problem. I am writing a book to explain why everything collapsed after creation.

It is complex, but when a woman commits adultery and gives birth to a chld and gives the child to another man, she can begin to say at first, thank goodness he doesn't know. But approaching teens, the child life then begins to behave in ways different from the man she gives the child to to father. This is where what's in the blood shows where it truly comes from

You believe in the Adam creation story?

Following that timeline it shows the human race is about 5000 years old, but scientist found human fossils going back 200,000 years in Ethiopia, and dinasours etc ...

creativehubb:

You believe in the Adam creation story?

Following that timeline it shows the human race is about 5000 years old, but scientist found human fossils going back 200,000 years in Ethiopia, and dinasours etc ...

If i had not gotten close to the Lord to being shown His mercies I won't believe He exists. I have enjoyed plentiful moments with Him and knowing the ordinances of Heaven, afterlife and all is no stranger to me.

Wujio:


If i had not gotten close to the Lord to being shown His mercies I won't believe He exists. I have enjoyed plentiful moments with Him and knowing the ordinances of Heaven, afterlife and all is no stranger to me.

You didn't attend to my probe

So, Cain became corrupt and corrupted the entire earth. Human race exapnded and intermarried and as time went on, mixed humans, falen beings began to marry and to produce another mixed race. A flood became necessary to purge the earth and cleanse the entire life on earth

The spirit of Cain survived the flood found hosts in humans and the blood shedding on the earth continued

NewManFred:
Life is a sick joke and we are all unwilling participants.

We all like to think we are special. As if our lives have some meaning. But in the end, we are all the play toys of death, being preserved and grown, until the day it decides to take us.

I've watched so many people die and seen so many dead bodies on documentaries and social media that I've become so disillusioned from life. All those people just like you, thought they had a purpose. Thought they were special; that someone out there was looking out for them. They had goals, dreams and aspirations.

But they were nothing but mere biological puppets. No different from the chickens we see on our streets everyday; created with the purpose to eat, breed and die. And everything they do in between only serves to propagate this sick joke.

Take a paper and a pen and write down all the things you want to achieve in life. Most of you will die before you achieve all of them. The few who are 'lucky' to achieve all will immediately feel a sinking emptiness after they do. Then will they realize that the joy and happiness they felt they'd get is only fleeting and quickly replaced by the need to do more. And they will keep chasing that 'more' until they die.

Sit back and look at the world. Pick a history book and read. Watch some war documentaries. Human life is fleeting and painful. It's all a big joke and whosoever created this world is not just psychopathic, but also sadistic.

The only constant in life is suffering. Nobody ever attains true happiness. What we experience is an illusion of happiness that gets washed away few seconds later by the rushing streams of reality.

What do you think makes you happy? Money? Well how much? The more money you make the more money you'll want to make and the harder you'll work to make sure the money remains. You'll still be sucked in an endless circle of money chasing.

Is it loved ones that make you happy? Well one day those loved ones will die and you will forever be left with the pain of that loss: a pain that will haunt you every minute of everyday. If they don't die before you die, then the constant fear of losing them is enough to suck away any joy or peace of mind that you think you deserve.

Is it sex that makes you happy, well you are no different from a dog that feels _horny and mates with another dog. The only difference is that you think you have free will, whereas you are being controlled by the same instinct to procreate, disguised under than a short-lived pleasure of sex. A pleasure that will bring more pain, heart-ache, disease and unfulfillment than whatever illusion of pleasure you have created..

Me Me Me. We are so obsessed with ourselves and our stupid needs and desires that we fail to see what's before our eyes. We are all in some sick twisted game designed by a sick twisted being, and none of us will get out alive.
And everyday we bring more and more people into this game and we celebrate it like it's a good thing; like we are doing them a favor.

The luckiest people on Earth are the babies that die during delivery. At least they didn't get to participate in this sick, twisted joke called life.

We share a similar outlook on life.

I shouldn't exist here; I never chose this. Every aspect of this existence infuriates me.

I desire nonexistence, fading away with no trace of my memory lingering with anyone.

Let's initiate a discussion, perhaps through a thread or WhatsApp group, exploring topics of life, death, and the profound aspects of suicide.


I want to be dead and forgotten. Amen!

creativehubb:

You didn't attend to my probe

IF YOU PRAY WELL, VERY DEEP AND WELL, GOD WILL BRING YOU CLOSE TO HIS THRONE TO CLEAR ALL DOUBTS OF HIS EXISTENCE, BUT HIS GLORY COVERS FROM MID SECTION TO HIS HEAD WHICH HE WONT ALLOW TO BE SEEN

I'VE TRIED THESE THINGS AND I KNOW ABSOLUTELY WHO THE LORD IS NOT JUST THAT HE EXISTS

THE PROBLEM WITH THE WORLD IS WE WAN TO DEBATE GOD WITHOUT FIRST HVING THE KNOWLEDGE. IT CANT WORK

Wujio:
So, Cain became corrupt and corrupted the entire earth. Human race exapnded and intermarried and as time went on, mixed humans, falen beings began to marry and to produce another mixed race. A flood became necessary to purge the earth and cleanse the entire life on earth

The spirit of Cain survived the flood found hosts in humans and the blood shedding on the earth continued

Humanity didn't start with the Adam story, the Adam story is actually not factual. Human race is about 200,000 years old, Adam's story following the biblical timeline is about 5000 years old.

Wujio:



We are unique. Creative and takented and capable of much. The universe exists because of us on it thats why there isnt life elsewhere. Enough of these despondents talk. When youre depressed get something to uploft your spirit leave soeeches alone. Life isnt an illusion



We were designed specifically in the image of a creative and Genius creator otherwise relative theory in quantum physics, chemistry and biology wouldnt exist. Thats why when you look into the human cells, molecules, atoms, deep space, beneath the ocean we see a synchorny of brilloance. Its the signature of God appending that He created and owns all.


Only a fool says God doesnt exist

I know there is an energy source, I guess that's what humans call God.

creativehubb:

Humanity didn't start with the Adam story, the Adam story is actually not factual. Human race is about 200,000 years old, Adam's story following the biblical timeline is about 5000 years old.

Smiles. In the beginning the scripture says darkness was upon the face of the deep. These darkness would include all things that darkness would compprise of, not excluding rocks that you rely upon through carbon dating techniques. Go and read, void, darkness, formlessness, and God played with dust, rock and formed the world from it.

creativehubb:

Humanity didn't start with the Adam story, the Adam story is actually not factual. Human race is about 200,000 years old, Adam's story following the biblical timeline is about 5000 years old.

Smiles. In the beginning the scripture says darkness was upon the face of the deep. These darkness would include all things that darkness would compprise of, not excluding rocks that you rely upon through carbon dating techniques. Go and read, void, darkness, formlessness, and God played with dust, rock and formed the world from it. If God chooses to say I compress ten billion years into a calender year on earth, who are we to question Him ?

https://m.youtube.com/shorts/NfMJcKrrv9A



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsiQvYFivW0&pp=ygUNUmFwdHVyZSBkcmVhbQ%3D%3D


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-spXBesSqQ&pp=ygUNUmFwdHVyZSBkcmVhbQ%3D%3D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NQI8Ma_Qe0&pp=ygUNUmFwdHVyZSBkcmVhbQ%3D%3D

Stop looking for physical proof before you choose to acknowledge God and worship Him, He won't be seen through such.

Wujio:




Smiles. In the beginning the scripture says darkness was upon the face of the deep. These darkness would include all things that darkness would compprise of, not excluding rocks that you rely upon through carbon dating techniques. Go and read, void, darkness, formlessness, and God played with dust, rock and formed the world from it.

Oh okay if you put it that way.

But what does the Adam story illustrate?

creativehubb:

I know there is an energy source, I guess that's what humans call God.

And if you know Him as God and He is called God, have you done all His desires to worship and glorify Him rather than engage in rambles about His existence etc? Take it from someone that has seen snippets of hell, everyone who doesn't worship God genuinely on earth through Jesus is thrown into unquenchable fire

WiseSolutionsNG:
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/NfMJcKrrv9A



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsiQvYFivW0&pp=ygUNUmFwdHVyZSBkcmVhbQ%3D%3D


https://m.youtube.com/shorts/m1jROPenMrA



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr5eUUWBQ9I&pp=ygUNUmFwdHVyZSBkcmVhbQ%3D%3D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10OxNZUT9bc&pp=ygUNUmFwdHVyZSBkcmVhbQ%3D%3D


https://m.youtube.com/shorts/ddn29IqvYOM



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-spXBesSqQ&pp=ygUNUmFwdHVyZSBkcmVhbQ%3D%3D



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NQI8Ma_Qe0&pp=ygUNUmFwdHVyZSBkcmVhbQ%3D%3D

White or black Jesus?

Wujio:



And if you know Him as God and He is called God, have you done all His desires to worship and glorify Him rather than engage in rambles about His existence etc? Take it from someone that has seen snippets of hell, everyone who doesn't worship God genuinely on earth through Jesus is thrown into unquenchable fire

Of course I thank and worship the energy source and life giver everyday, am thankful, I worship him in my African way not via Roman religion or Arabic.

creativehubb:

Of course I thank and worship the energy source and life giver everyday, am thankful, I worship him in my African way not via Roman religion or Arabic.

You think its play. See if any singke human being dies without thoriughly accepting Jesus and glorifying God through Him, its straight into unquenchable fire.

Wujio:



You think its play. See if any singke human being dies without thoriughly accepting Jesus and glorifying God through Him, its straight into unquenchable fire.

Now you are speaking religion, even Jesus didn't like the religious establishment, he was more about spirituality.

creativehubb:

Now you are speaking religion, even Jesus didn't like the religious establishment, he was more about spirituality.

If you see hell for three minutes, you wont be saying all you have here. I wish you luck.

Wujio:



If you see hell for three minutes, you wont be saying all you have here. I wish you luck.

So the fear of hell is why you are righteous

Funny guy,that means your vibration is still very low.

creativehubb:

So the fear of hell is why you are righteous

Funny guy

No wahala. Half a word is only what the wise needs. I pursue righteousness to reflect My creator, not motivated by fear of fire