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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 5:37pm On Nov 01, 2023
I dey keke for traffic dey type, lol.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ggoldmine: 5:50pm On Nov 01, 2023
Aha! I see the confusion. To clarify, osmosis is from lower solute concentration to higher solute concentration, which is the same as higher solvent concentration to lower solvent concentration.

Case closed cool

ositadima1:


My brother I would have given up on this, but I don't give when I am right. Below is a passage from a book, do with it what you like, iam done:

Osmosis is a process by which solvent molecules move from an area of high solvet concentration to an area of low solvent concentration through a semi-permeable membrane. Semi-permeable membranes allow solvent molecules to pass through but not solute molecules. The rate of osmosis is proportional to the difference in solvent concentration between the two areas.

I hope this explanation was helpful. Please let me know if you have any other questions.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Locotrader(m): 5:50pm On Nov 01, 2023
ositadima1:
I dey keke for traffic dey type, lol.

Aby na damage control things.
Hope seun paid you guys for this debate.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by TERFA: 6:09pm On Nov 01, 2023
Deadlytruth:


You are bringing in Physics and law of gravity into it. That doesn't apply here. There is what is called osmotic pressure and it is the force which helps move water across the membrane. Osmosis is strictly about the movement of water molecules and not the movement of any other substance.

In all instances of osmosis, there are two solutions separated by a semi-permeable membrane which permits only water to move across it. Now, when those two solutions of different concentrations are connected with that semi permeable membrane, osmotic pressure is immediately set up with the goal of equalizing the two different concentrations. This makes water molecules to start moving away from the hypotonic solution (i.e the side of lower concentration) through the membrane to go and dilute the hypertonic solution (i.e. the side of higher concentration) at the opposite end and in the end both solutions become isotonic (i.e. of equal concentrations)

True, osmotic pressure na the force wey dey make water waka across membrane. But the way you talk about am get small issue.

You talk say, "Osmosis na strictly about how water dey move, e no consign any other substance." This one no too correct. Osmosis fit involve other small substances wey dey waka with the water, no be only water waka come.

Again, you yarn say, "Na so water molecules go begin waka commot from the side wey get lower concentration through the membrane, waka go mix with the side wey get higher concentration for the other end." Small issue dey here. Water dey waka from the side wey get higher concentration go the side wey get lower concentration, not the other way around.

Make we try get am well.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 6:21pm On Nov 01, 2023
ggoldmine:
Aha! I see the confusion. To clarify, osmosis is from lower solute concentration to higher solute concentration, which is the same as higher solvent concentration to lower solvent concentration.

Case closed cool


You agree that it is the solvent that crosses the membrane and not the solute. This reinforces what I have been saying. grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 6:30pm On Nov 01, 2023
BabsO2:


Will need to read up on osmosis to refresh its exact meaning as it is more under biology i guess.
But looking at hygroscopic or capillary forces. They cause water to flow against gravity. They are due to net imbalances in other forces at the atomic level. And there are so many forces at the atomic level which physicists say are far greater in value than the gravitational one we see and can easily relate with. That's why a nuclear bomb is possible. Where massive amount of energy (force x distance) is released by a change from one atom to another under the right conditions that are possible.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Hogwarthtrades: 6:37pm On Nov 01, 2023
essentialone:
UACN. Buy more, Hold on, or Sell off?

This is a long term approach, I am responding because i was mentioned. Same approach as Flour mill, i'm holding current unit, If i am just opening positions today as a long term player , i will start with afolabi units, then buy more or not based on quarterly earnings report . The major risk of UACN is management figuring out how to turn around the agro-allied sector of the company. The recent earning shows boost in profitability which is due to a large extent inflow from disposed property, plant, etc . will keep enjoying the tashere dividend and adding appropriately.

Disclaimer: for most positions (about 9 out every 10) of my / home office stock holding[b] i don't have a price target. Hence, i usually don't talk about price[/b] two things takes me out of a position viz;
a. if the company's (stocks held) direction (mgt, financials) begin swerve away from the trajectory .
b. death on my part aka till death do us part (if the next person in line of command aka beneficiaries are wiser or dumber than i am as the case maybe decides to sell everything, I am long gone anyway... step-up basis to whoever takes over the office). I hope i there will be sme type of trust in place to mitigate this.

edited Nov 6 2023 for better reading flow/ grammatical error.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 6:40pm On Nov 01, 2023
emmanuelewumi:




Cat fish is found in fresh water habit, If you take catfish and put it in a lagoon the catfish will die. The concentration of the catfish body fluid is lower than that of the lagoon. Water will move out of the catfish cells into the environment that is the lagoon, this will cause plasmolysis of the catfish cell and the death of the animal.


If you take a mackerel fish found in the ocean and put it into a fresh water habitat. The concentration of the fresh water habitat is lower than the concentration of the mackerel body fluid. Water will move from the environment ie the fresh water that has a lower concentration into the cells of the mackerel fish that has a higher concentration. The water movement into the animal will make its cells to become turgid, the cell membrane will burst leading to the death of the fish


I was surprised you did not do that practical described by Deadlytruth in your Biology classes in high school

"the presence of salt reduces water potential. Water potential is the measure of the free energy of water. It is affected by the concentration of solutes in the water. Salt is a solute, so when it is added to water, it lowers the water potential.

This is because salt ions attract water molecules. The more salt ions there are in the water, the more water molecules are attracted to them. This reduces the number of water molecules that are free to move around, which lowers the water potential."
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BuchyD: 6:54pm On Nov 01, 2023
ositadima1:


Osmosis is a form of diffusion.

Diffusion is like an umbrella under which osmosis falls as a specialized form. Osmosis is always from higher concentration to lower concentration.

Like most processes in nature, things move from high energy states to lower energy states, or else you need external energy to go in the other direction. undecided


Nwokem mba o.... no be so

Water moves from areas of low concentration(high water potential) to high Concentration (low water potential)......

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BabsO2(m): 6:58pm On Nov 01, 2023
aj8:



1. First Bank N53.7bill
2. UBA. N41.7bill
3. Access N30.1bill
4. Zenith Bank N24.95bill
5. FCMB. N12.5bill
6. GTCO. (-N4.bill)

All as at 1st January 2023.

Should influence income statement in H1and[b] if the ratio of First Bank is anything to go by i.e N53.667 to N210.16 bill = x3.916 [/b], the maths could be interesting. Let’s see how the maths plays out with Zenith Bank H1 first.

Trying to update and expand the above old post with Q2 and Q3 and more reserve numbers

For example UBA reads as follows
Foreign Ops Translation Reserves 41.7b -> 308.7b -> 302.1b
Fair Value Reserves 88.7b -> 248.5b ->250.1b
Retained Earnings 429.5b -> 683.0b ->750.8b
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 7:08pm On Nov 01, 2023
BuchyD:



Nwokem mba o.... no be so

Water moves from areas of low concentration(high water potential) to high Concentration (low water potential)......

Lol, low concentration of what? Water or the solute in the water?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mfunkynation(m): 7:25pm On Nov 01, 2023
Since Biology graduates have gathered here.... please Physics graduates should gather here too..
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 7:47pm On Nov 01, 2023
Na wa ooooo, una still dey discuss this osmosis, diffusion, plasmolysis, turgidity and flaccidity tinz
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by emmanuelewumi(m): 7:49pm On Nov 01, 2023
Mfunkynation:
Since Biology graduates have gathered here....
please Physics graduates should gather here too..


I was admitted to study physics, did it for 2 years but could not cope due to youthful exuberance. So was advised to withdraw or change course

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Curiouscity(m): 8:13pm On Nov 01, 2023
Mfunkynation:
Since Biology graduates have gathered here....
please Physics graduates should gather here too..

Random walk, fluctuations, probability, stochastic model and deterministic model in Physics can all be applied to the Stock market more than Osmosis. Yet they have wasted almost 2 pages trying to get the correct definition of Osmosis. Talk of derailment!

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Xidget: 8:33pm On Nov 01, 2023
Xidget:
Pls, which stock do you recommend? Seems most of the stock have increased already.
Recommendation pls
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Kingchuks(m): 8:39pm On Nov 01, 2023
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 8:52pm On Nov 01, 2023
emmanuelewumi:



That is diffusion.


Osmosis is the movement from lower concentration through a semi permeable membrane to areas of higher concentration

Osmosis is the movement (of solute) from lower concentration (of water) through a semi permeable membrane to areas of higher concentration (of water)
and vice-versa(if i may add grin).

Fixed!!!
@ositadima1
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 8:57pm On Nov 01, 2023
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 9:09pm On Nov 01, 2023
chimex38:


Osmosis is the movement (of solute) from lower concentration (of water) through a semi permeable membrane to areas of higher concentration (of water)

Fixed!!!
@ositadima1
Fixed!!!

@ositadima1 u were kinda right in pointing it out at least..

started with solute, then inbetween, definition referred to "of water" and then "of water" at the end..
can be confusing for starters who would assume he was referring to solute from the onset till the end OR referring to solvent(water) from the onset to the end of definition.

Doesnt make his definition wrong though..


no more explanation tire things...😑😂😀🤣grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 9:32pm On Nov 01, 2023
chimex38:


Osmosis is the movement (of solute) from lower concentration (of water) through a semi permeable membrane to areas of higher concentration (of water)
and vice-versa(if i may add grin).

Fixed!!!
@ositadima1
Can there be anything like concentration of water?
I know that I could measure the concentration of salt in grams of that salt per dm³ of water, but how do you measure concentration of water? Would you say 2grams of water per dm³ of water?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Miyachi: 9:50pm On Nov 01, 2023
chimex38:


Osmosis is the movement (of solute) from lower concentration (of water) through a semi permeable membrane to areas of higher concentration (of water)
and vice-versa(if i may add grin).

Fixed!!!
@ositadima1
It is the solvent that moves not the solute. It diffuses from an area of lower concentration solution (higher concentration of water) to an area of higher concentration solution(lower concentration of water) until both solutions are isotonic.

Higher concentration here means a higher solute concentration and lower concentration means inversely the same.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by thebargainhunte: 9:55pm On Nov 01, 2023
Mpeace:
See loss. This guys just finish us that year.

That company no get joy grin grin grin
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 11:12pm On Nov 01, 2023
Deadlytruth:

Can there be anything like concentration of water?
I know that I could measure the concentration of salt in grams of that salt per dm³ of water, but how do you measure concentration of water? Would you say 2grams of water per dm³ of water?
Vice-Versa caveat i added shlda cleared any misnomer

point taken anyway.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 11:17pm On Nov 01, 2023
Miyachi:

It is the solvent that moves not the solute. It diffuses from an area of lower concentration solution (higher concentration of water) to an area of higher concentration solution(lower concentration of water) until both solutions are isotonic.

Higher concentration here means a higher solute concentration and lower concentration means inversely the same.
Vice-Versa caveat i added shlda cleared any misnomer.


point taken anyway...
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by leparj(m): 11:35pm On Nov 01, 2023
I think prices are on the high side now
in the stock market.
Prices of good stocks.
Explains all this acute discussion on
Osmosis/Diffusion.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by chimex38: 12:10am On Nov 02, 2023
Deadlytruth:


We have a new analysis......BA (Biological Analysis)
Fixed!! grin grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 3:29am On Nov 02, 2023
Curiouscity:


Random walk, fluctuations, probability, stochastic model and deterministic model in Physics can all be applied to the Stock market more than Osmosis. Yet they have wasted almost 2 pages trying to get the correct definition of Osmosis. Talk of derailment!

Osmosis can also be used to describe the movement of capital within a stock market from one sector to another. For example, if investors believe that the technology sector is undervalued relative to the energy sector, they may sell their energy stocks and buy technology stocks. This flow of capital from the energy sector to the technology sector would be an example of osmosis within a stock market.

Capital flows from Overvalued sectors to Undervalued sectors or stocks. wink
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mfunkynation(m): 5:44am On Nov 02, 2023
emmanuelewumi:



I was admitted to study physics, did it for 2 years but could not cope due to youthful exuberance. So was advised to withdraw or change course
Eyah sorry about that...
I got love for chemistry but my friend advised me to go for physics and I did...
I haven't regretted my decision till date
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by essentialone(m): 6:18am On Nov 02, 2023
Has Aliko Dangote officially changed his name to Danjuma Willie Daniel?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Deadlytruth(m): 6:34am On Nov 02, 2023
Mfunkynation:

Eyah sorry about that...
I got love for chemistry but my friend advised me to go for physics and I did...
I haven't regretted my decision till date
Seems that in the Nigerian Stock Exchange generally and on this thread, those who did sciences far outnumber those who studied commercial and financial courses.
I am wondering how come.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Mpeace(m): 6:51am On Nov 02, 2023
essentialone:
Has Aliko Dangote officially changed his name to Danjuma Willie Daniel?
Na food we want. When is Dangfood coming?

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