ChristoBam:


It's not like you have the squad depth to bench them. It's not like you can sell them. We couldn't even sell Mctominay or Maguire.

All you can do is keep instructing and probably set an example with some of them.

Once the owners can back a manager in between all these bad results and hold on till the next two transfer windows when we're about to recruit and get rid of players with the help of a Sporting director, I'm 100% certain we'll totally get rid of all that nonsense.

If not, we'll be here in the next 2 years.

I am even more confused here...

We lost 0 -3 at home to Newcastle's reserve team, despite our manager having a good number of his first teamers at his disposal and we are still talking about Sporting director and recruitment?

So you mean we need a sporting director and new players to beat Newcastle's reserve team at Old Trafford?

It's okay.

ChristoBam:

Madrid sign the unarguably the best players in the world and expect instant results from that.

Definitely not the same at Man Utd.

See how you sneaked in "unarguably" just so you can trash our own signings when someone counters.

Let me check the best players they sign so we can test your logic, Mendy, Militao, Rudiger, Joselu, Bellingham, Modric, Camavinga, Tchoumeni etc.

How is it different from; Hojllund, Amad, Bruno, Onana, Martial, Amrabat, Di Maria, Sancho, Lisandro Martinez etc? I don't even want to add Mount and Antony who were requested by ETH himself...

Madrid are executing the season without a world class CF and are still dependent on Modric in midfield whilst their defence is injury ravaged but we don't hear a lot about it because they have a coach that knows what he is doing.

You don't want to have the reputation of a football club that sacks its managers willy nilly. The stats back me in concluding that, a majority of those who are categorized as top performers in their RnRs will testify that, their achievements were corollary to gaining cognate experience on-their-job. That means learning from failure or is it failing forward they call it - will fall under that group - because there will always be downtime. That is how the bell curve goes.

My point is, don't sack Ten Hag during his bad patch. Other good managers will take note to avoid you because they know that a 2016/17 for Pep, 2022/23 for Klopp or his final season with Dortmund and so on can and will happen to any and every manager. It is part of continuous improvement. City gave Pep that chance and see how he is rewarding the club. Word is, he is going to extend his contract to stay beyond 10 years with the club. But I digress.

Suffer with Ten Hag and show him that he earned your trust because of last season. There is a good manager in there. We saw it with Ajax FC and with United just this past season. Otherwise, you will hire another manager of a lower quality unwittingly and repeat the vicious cycle.

AdisaOwala:


I am even more confused here...

We lost 0 -3 at home to Newcastle's reserve team, despite our manager having a good number of his first teamers at his disposal and we are still talking about Sporting director and recruitment?

So you mean we need a sporting director and new players to beat Newcastle's reserve team at Old Trafford?

It's okay.

You were wasting your time.

As a coach, you don't command respect by being tough and all that, you earn respect by delivering results on the pitch. I think this was what Ronaldo was on about, for him, he is a proven winner everywhere he had gone so, it was funny to see a coach that has not achieved as much as he did demand respect from him rather than earn it.

Ronaldo won't do same to Pep.

I dare say that the day Pep will stop winning is the day a lot of players will begin to question his decisions openly. See how Cancelo questioned him and he axed him and showed he was right by winning the treble afterwards. Now, tell me why any player in that squad won't fall in line? When a manager that is delivering the goods each season talks, you just have to listen.

It took years for Ferguson to get to the level where he could take absolute charge of the dressing room, he got the results and every other thing followed.

Android17:
You don't want to have the reputation of a football club that sacks its managers willy nilly. The stats back me in concluding that, a majority of those who are categorized as top performers in their RnRs will testify that, their achievements were corollary to gaining cognate experience on-their-job. That means learning from failure or is it failing forward they call it - will fall under that group - because there will always be downtime. That is how the bell curve goes.

My point is, don't sack Ten Hag during his bad patch. Other good managers will take note to avoid you because they know that a 2016/17 for Pep, 2022/23 for Klopp or his final season with Dortmund and so on can and will happen to any and every manager. It is part of continuous improvement. City gave Pep that chance and see how he is rewarding the club. Word is, he is going to extend his contract to stay beyond 10 years with the club. But I digress.

Suffer with Ten Hag and show him that he earned your trust because of last season. There is a good manager in there. We saw it with Ajax FC and with United just this past season. Otherwise, you will hire another manager of a lower quality unwittingly and repeat the vicious cycle.

How has sacking underperforming coaches damaged Madrid and Chelsea reputation.

Android17:
You don't want to have the reputation of a football club that sacks its managers willy nilly. The stats back me in concluding that, a majority of those who are categorized as top performers in their RnRs will testify that, their achievements were corollary to gaining cognate experience on-their-job. That means learning from failure or is it failing forward they call it - will fall under that group - because there will always be downtime. That is how the bell curve goes.

My point is, don't sack Ten Hag during his bad patch. Other good managers will take note to avoid you because they know that a 2016/17 for Pep, 2022/23 for Klopp or his final season with Dortmund and so on can and will happen to any and every manager. It is part of continuous improvement. City gave Pep that chance and see how he is rewarding the club. Word is, he is going to extend his contract to stay beyond 10 years with the club. But I digress.

Suffer with Ten Hag and show him that he earned your trust because of last season. There is a good manager in there. We saw it with Ajax FC and with United just this past season. Otherwise, you will hire another manager of a lower quality unwittingly and repeat the vicious cycle.

We saw what Pep was building, it was recognizable from the very start, the same with Klopp...Can you say the same about ETH? Watch that Ajax team and Man Utd under ETH, do you see any similarities?

Why is it looking impossible for him to implement his ideas here even after supervising 3 transfer windows and spending over £400m?

spillo1:

How has sacking underperforming coaches damaged Madrid and Chelsea reputation.

RM have won their league 5 out of the last 20 seasons. City, if I am not mistaken, just overtook Chelsea's achievements of the last 20 years in terms of the total. I know CFC have won the UCL twice vs City's once.

Android17:
RM have won their league 5 out of the last 20 seasons. City, if I am not mistaken, just overtook Chelsea's achievements of the last 20 years in terms of the total. I know CFC have won the UCL twice vs City's once.

So that's how those clubs reputation have been ruined?

patrickmuf:
We saw what Pep was building, it was recognizable from the very start, the same with Klopp...Can you say the same about ETH? Watch that Ajax team and Man Utd under ETH, do you see any similarities?

Why is it looking impossible for him to implement his ideas here even after supervising 3 transfer windows and spending over £400m?

He is making mistakes. No doubt. But even this current City that won a treble play almost nothing like Pep's Barca of 2008/09. The reason? The players are different.

Eric is overwhelmed because he is caught in-between winning anything anyway or taking his time to build the squad in a more organic way that could win or at least compete for a while. Would you have kept him if United played like BHA but finished at the same spot rather than third? Be honest.

Android17:
He is making mistakes. No doubt. But even this current City that won a treble play almost nothing like Pep's Barca of 2008/09. The reason? The players are different.

Eric is overwhelmed because he is caught in-between winning anything anyway or taking his time to build the squad in a more organic way that could win or at least compete for a while. Would you have kept him if United played like BHA but finished at the same spot rather than third? Be honest.

The difference is that at United he is given money to spend, a lot of money.

If Brighton gives De Zerbi £400m over 3 windows, they'd demand for more. In our case, we are not really after trophies right now, a top four finish whilst improving the playing personnel and performances on the pitch is all we are after.

spillo1:

So that's how those clubs reputation have been ruined?

Who born City to get Haaland over Real Madrid? Have you looked at Chelsea recently? They are celebrating Carabao wins against minnows nowadays because they barely win anywhere else.

Edit: Can Mbappé disrespect the Real Madrid of 1997-2003?

patrickmuf:
The difference is that at United he is given money to spend, a lot of money.

If Brighton gives De Zerbi £400m over 3 windows, they'd demand for more. In our case, we are not really after trophies right now, a top four finish whilst improving the playing personnel and performances on the pitch is all we are after.

He could still get it. No matter how bad your form is, you are only out of the Carabao cup like City and now Arsenal. The league still has over 26 games to go for most clubs. Time still dey.

Android17:
Who born City to get Haaland over Real Madrid? Have you looked at Chelsea recently? They are celebrating Carabao wins against minnows nowadays because they barely win anywhere else.

All your points are laughable.

Android17:
He could still get it. No matter how bad your form is, you are only out of the Carabao cup like City and now Arsenal. The league still has over 26 games to go for most clubs. Time still dey.

If we wanted someone that will get us results whilst playing horrible football then we could as well have kept Mourinho.

patrickmuf:
If we wanted someone that will get us results whilst playing horrible football then we could as well have kept Mourinho.

Mourinho the malignant cancer? Mourinho was one month away from dragging SAF before he was sacked. It seems you have forgotten how shameless he was.

Android17:
Mourinho the malignant cancer? Mourinho was one month away from dragging SAF before he was sacked. It seems you have forgotten how shameless he was.

If Mourinho was the one that had a fallout with Ronaldo and Sancho, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

Android17:
RM have won their league 5 out of the last 20 seasons.

Barcelona have changed similar amount of managers over that same 20 seasons as Madrid. Why do Madrid get a reputation for sacking managers but Barca don't.

Barca sack till dey get it right, Madrid sack, Bayern sack, Juventus sack, Chelsea sack, infact all big teams and even smaller teams sack useless managers but we should give Erik bald head more time because city are winning with one of the greatest coaches of all time. You guys won't kill person on this thread 😂😂

Trevor012:

Barcelona have changed similar amount of managers over that same 20 seasons as Madrid. Why do Madrid get a reputation for sacking managers but Barca don't.

Barca is suffering from the same reputational damage. They had to go beg Xavi to coach the first team. Xavi was coaching in Saudi Arabia and that is who Barca went to beg.

Notice, I did not say you will not win atimes firing and hiring managers. That will be untrue. I said consistent winners like City have stability and win more. Then I compared Chelsea vs City to buttress my point. Know the difference.

I said that is not the reputation you want to have. The best coaches will want to go to City after Pep because they saw how Pep was treated. Granted, he earned it but that is why I said "best coaches".

patrickmuf:
If Mourinho was the one that had a fallout with Ronaldo and Sancho, we wouldn't hear the end of it.

Have you heard the end of it concerning Ten Hag?

Android17:
Barca is suffering from the same reputational damage. They had to go beg Xavi to coach the first team. Xavi was coaching in Saudi Arabia and that is who Barca went to beg.

Notice, I did not say you will not win atimes firing and hiring managers. That will be untrue. I said consistent winners like City have stability and win more. Then I compared Chelsea vs City to buttress my point. Know the difference.

I said that is not the reputation you want to have. The best coaches will want to go to City after Pep because they saw how Pep was treated. Granted, he earned it but that is why I said "best coaches".

The only thing consistent about man city winning is Pep. If Pep wasn't at city they would have changed like 2 managers over the last 7 years and you won't be talking about stability. When you have one of he greatest coach of all time why won't you be stable with him winning trophies left, right and center just like we did with Ferguson. The usual life span of a coach at any club is 3 years max. Pep has spent more years than he did at Barca and Bayern combined at City.

andrewbaba44:
Person carry money go buy mount ,carry 100M pay for Anthony

Nah that one pain me pass the number of pimple on his face is greater than his goals
Which coach in his right mind will pay that amount for him

If I speak, they will call me a pained Ronaldo fan.

But, I will speak.

He was right to the very single breath. We are so done.

“..As Picasso said, you have to destroy it to rebuild it and if they start with me, for me, it’s not a problem..."

Blake755:

Nah that one pain me pass the number of pimple on his face is greater than his goals
Which coach in his right mind will pay that amount for him

No be my business oo ,but paying 100M for Anthony Dey painful

All club do make mistakes at times in overpaying ,but I won’t understand this Anthony own at all ,e just be like say ETH wan favour him former team ,aside his sweet left foot Wetin that guy sabi again ?

With the likes of chukwueze ademola lookman this guy won’t even see a starting shirt at the super eagles

As Ajax scam Man U ,make una Dey happy say dem Dey relegation zone 😁

Jodera:
Maybe no much contender that year compared to what he did plus it wasn't a world cup year

But same uefa cup can't give someone who won world cup golden ball a top three seat. 🤣🤣🤣

Jokerman:


Ronaldo is the Greatest player to have worn a man utd shirt, and hence a low dumb coconut Ikorodu Pep had no right to disrespect him

Your bad mouth is a top notch

andrewbaba44:


No be my business oo ,but paying 100M for Anthony Dey painful

All club do make mistakes at times in overpaying ,but I won’t understand this Anthony own at all ,e just be like say ETH wan favour him former team ,aside his sweet left foot Wetin that guy sabi again ?

With the likes of chukwueze ademola lookman this guy won’t even see a starting shirt at the super eagles

As Ajax scam Man U ,make una Dey happy say dem Dey relegation zone 😁

Which kind sweet left someone that cannot take defender this is my first time of seeing a Brazilian winger that can not dribble opponents convincely see vini junior , rahinnha this one u go pass am ball he will be doing useless spin
Nah because of how ajax scammed us that's why they are struggling in there league

Blake755:

Your bad mouth is a top notch

Make Una beg TenHalf to begin dey win games to be free😂

Antony and sweet left foot in the same sentence, heck in the same paragraph?

Jokerman:


Make Una beg TenHalf to begin dey win games to be free😂

Any time we have match man u fans should keep this in handy

Old Trafford is falling down

Ten haag is a fucking clown

Glazers staying for ten more years

Manchester city are on the beers

....... Chants from Newcastle fans yesterday 😭💔