Lawag3:


Evolution is wrong

How?

cornelboy:

See guy leave that assume thing. Do you think it's logical to conclude that life doesn't have a creator?

You should find answer to that yourself

Please leave the dodging.
Answer the question.

cornelboy:

Do you know what coding is? So how did the DNA came to be?

Yes I know what coding is. Any problem?
DNAs have been around for millions of years. Science is yet to unravel the source

Emusan:
Interested person should watch this VIDEO by Alexander Tsiaras titled "Conception to birth" then you will know all these baby Atheists are just online noise maker.

I took my time and watched the 10 min clip, and I'm yet to see how this relates to Yahweh. Please enlighten me

cornelboy:

Incoherent!

Since you don't understand English. He meant how did your Yahweh come about? Did he create himself or pop into existence just like that

Maynman:

The video just proves evolution.
That same process is repeated in other animals.

Leave the ignoramus. Theists are denser than thick butter

Aemmyjah:



What does that prove?
That God never existed cos of diverse forms of worship?
De play

So Allah, Zeus, Thor and Yahweh are the same?

jaephoenix:

Since you don't understand English. He meant how did your Yahweh come about? Did he create himself or pop into existence just like that

Stupid and illogical question actually.

jaephoenix:

Yes I know what coding is. Any problem?
DNAs have been around for millions of years. Science is yet to unravel the source

Okay guess it'd take millions of years for atheist scientists to unravel that lol

The way the DNA works, is it logical to say it was programmed by an intelligent being or what? You believe stuffs came by chance?

I understand that atheists don't agree on the same theories so can you define your "beliefs" here?

jaephoenix:

Please leave the dodging.
Answer the question.

You guys shout logic here and there but you fail woefully to apply it when it comes to questions about life and creation and the universe.

I know that the universe and everything in it today couldn't have come from anything but the handiwork of an intelligent designer. It's a simple reasoning but atheism has blocked some portion of your brain not to see that.

So whether some people believe in ifa or Sango or Thor or Allah or Yahweh, it has absolutely nothing to do with what we are discussing.

Maynman:

It's you that is Incoherent.

You cannot create something that you already have, you can only create what has not been created.

Only a lifeless person can create life.

Okay

cornelboy:

Stupid and illogical question actually.

Lol. Now its an illogical question abi? No wahala

cornelboy:

Okay guess it'd take millions of years for atheist scientists to unravel that lol

The way the DNA works, is it logical to say it was programmed by an intelligent being or what? You believe stuffs came by chance?

I understand that atheists don't agree on the same theories so can you define your "beliefs" here?

Stupid question

cornelboy:

You guys shout logic here and there but you fail woefully to apply it when it comes to questions about life and creation and the universe.

I know that the universe and everything in it today couldn't have come from anything but the handiwork of an intelligent designer. It's a simple reasoning but atheism has blocked some portion of your brain not to see that.

So whether some people believe in ifa or Sango or Thor or Allah or Yahweh, it has absolutely nothing to do with what we are discussing.

The topic said God or Yahweh exists. Now if he exists that means the other gods like Allah ,Zeus etc don't exist. So your point in bold is irrelevant

jaephoenix:

Stupid question

No wahala

jaephoenix:

Where is it written on Apple devices that Steve Jobs made them?

See fraudulent answer. (Fallacy)

No one said it was written on Apple devices that Steve jobs made them.

jaephoenix:

Steve Jobs owns Apple(or majority shares), so any product made by it is attributed to him...

That is why I asked you the question
'How then do you praise Steve jobs as the creator of the iPhone instead of the unnamed workers who actually created it by your reasoning?"

So do you see how flawed and contradictory and unstable your reasoning is?

jaephoenix:

The topic said God or Yahweh exists. Now if he exists that means the other gods like Allah ,Zeus etc don't exist. So your point in bold is irrelevant

Oh I wasn't even aware of the thread's topic. I was emphasizing on whether the universe and life have an intelligent creator or not.

First, the word "God" is a common noun that could be used for anybody or thing. It's not a proper noun.

There are fake and real money in Nigeria and it only takes some few test to differentiate them.
That's why it's your responsibility to search for the real God if there's.

My main bone of contention is that can any sane person randomly conclude that the universe and life could have come by chance and not designed and created by a mastermind?

It's more logical to reason that someone planned everything Mr atheism

Dtruthspeaker:


That is why I asked you the question
'How then do you praise Steve jobs as the creator of the iPhone instead of the unnamed workers who actually created it by your reasoning?"

So do you see how flawed and contradictory and unstable your reasoning is?

1. We don't know their specific names.
2. Since the phones come from Apple factories, and Jobs owns Apples, then automatically he bears any praise(or accusations) for Apple
Savvy?

cornelboy:

Oh I wasn't even aware of the thread's topic. I was emphasizing on whether the universe and life have an intelligent creator or not.

First, the word "God" is a common noun that could be used for anybody or thing. It's not a proper noun.

There are fake and real money in Nigeria and it only takes some few test to differentiate them.
That's why it's your responsibility to search for the real God if there's.

My main bone of contention is that can any sane person randomly conclude that the universe and life could have come by chance and not designed and created by a mastermind?

It's more logical to reason that someone planned everything Mr atheism

So there is a 'real god'? Interesting….
So how did u arrive at the conclusion that
1) your god is the real deal
2) he/she/they in fact created the world

jaephoenix:

I used instances where farmers, traders, architects etc, everyday people utilize square roots. And you're here telling me some illiterate farmers in Oturkpo don't use square roots. Lol.
Its like ignorant farmers using hands to uproot weeds in large hectares of lands for weeks, not knowing that there are machineries that can do that in hours. Who do you blame?
Look, l[b]earning science and tech aint by force.[/b] You can decide to do your thing your way without involving science and tech, no biggie. But don't come online and expose your ignorance that science and technology dont work, when they are already available

If you had not hastily jumped on budaatum's shit, you would have seen that the bold is what I was complaining of in my thread which budaatum raised for children have no farms or businesses so why force them to learn square roots and compound interest?

Is it not adults who own farms and businesses and if they had problems with their engagements they definitely would seek out a solution to it?

That is one of the points I was making in my thread which you have just restated.

So don't leap before you look!

jaephoenix:

1. We don't know their specific names.
2. Since the phones come from Apple factories, and Jobs owns Apples, then automatically he bears any praise(or accusations) for Apple
Savvy?

Do you not see that you contradicting yourself with your bad reasoning when you said "the person that put the maize in the oven or microwave created the popcorn"?

That is the trap you entered and can't get out of becsuse of that bad reasoning.

jaephoenix:

So there is a 'real god'? Interesting….
So how did u arrive at the conclusion that
1) your god is the real deal
2) he/she/they in fact created the world

I won't derail the thread any further. We could continue our discussion about how creation came to be in another thread later.

Here's a simple fact, "the universe and everything in it are not without a mastermind".
Stay safe.

jaephoenix:

So Allah, Zeus, Thor and Yahweh are the same?

Oga
You are not making sense but diverting my question
The universality and diversity of religion amd worship among humans only gives evidence that there's no God right?
Olodo

jaephoenix:

Explain what the sentence means, then I can help. If you're deficient in English, I can help out

Iphones can be evolved?
Do they evolve by themselves?
Yes or No?

jaephoenix:

Yes. Your creation story said Yahweh created humans and the universe.
Or are you denying it?

I am talking about what is now taught in biology classes?
Keep evading questions that are too high for you

jaephoenix:

DNA. Everything is coded there. I suppose a biologist to at least know what DNA is. That's why its called building blocks of life. This is the definition of DNA

Deoxyribonucleic acid (abbreviated DNA) is the molecule that carries genetic information for the development and functioning of an organism. DNA is made of two linked strands that wind around each other to resemble a twisted ladder — a shape known as a double helix.

Please return your biology degree! This is enough.

Good point
Have you studied the DNA?
Scientist called it the 'book of life' cos if contains all the information about the organism
Which of your parent created the DNA?

Now answer this
The DNA is a marvel of design or mere chance?

As any geneticist that question, they cannot Yes confidently
It is far possible to see a skyscraper in a village built by no one than to think the DNA came by itself
That's where you atheists have no wisdom

jaephoenix:

My father, who gave it to me

And everyone has the history of their great great great grandfather?

If he was a snake or whatever, what concern me with your old PA?

jaephoenix:

Can I have the link again? Sorry I missed it

Read my post again
The link is there

jaephoenix:

Yes a tree created its fruit.
Hold on! Am I interacting with kindergarten kids here or grown ass adults?

The mechanism to the reproduction and fusion of gametes and growth were regulated by that tree. Yes or No? If yes, was it conscious? Subconscious or unconscious?

Note that when we use the word create, I am not using it in the sense of producing something

jaephoenix:

Good.
1. My parent ability to procreate is as a result of growth. This growth came from the DNA that codes the protein. Now this protein can be hormones which are produced by pituitary and act on the ovaries, testes etc to cause them to mature
2. My genitals grew too. From a baby penis, actions of hormones like FSH, LH, testesterone etc caused it to develop.
Now a lot of things can go wrong in these gonadal development. From genetic, to viral etc. Everything in the body runs via DNA which translates and codes proteins which act on target organs. My penis was not designed.
This designer you're talking about has not been proven. And even if you are to say there is one, then he has done a poor job in many organs. Then he isnt intelligent. He designed some people's organs to be spread all over the body(the origin of cancers) . He designed some organs to fight other organs(the origins of autoimmune diseases). He designed some organs not to grow at all(the origin of agenesis).
So because these processes are made by DNA coding, errors can happen. And that is how we see these diseases I mentioned like cancers, autoimmune disease, agenesis, chromosomal aberrations etc
3. Its possible the first humans were from Africa. Many evidence point towards it. Same with the human thumbs. Many fossils point towards that evolution of our limbs

1. And the same parents regulated that growth shey
2. Your penis na accident na
3. Civilization began in Africa. First humans kor? First humans nii. Using the evidence of civilization to assume that humans started there is nonsense

jaephoenix:

Yes. How many times would I answer this.
AGAIN, EVOLUTION HAS BEEN PROVEN BY SCIENCE.

With the scientific approach?