michlins:
you haven't really dealth with the keke and hire purchase people. You will give him brand new keke and he will start complaining of engine problems meanwhile his family will be changing soup every night

Not to defend lousy keke drivers, but considering the heavy use, bad roads, and sometimes bad mechanics, I ain't surprised the machine breaks down too frequently.

take that step and go, you will appreciate it someday in the future. Business in Nigeria is not guaranteed. a better life for your family is guaranteed abroad.

oga, don't look back oooooo

Which country exactly in Europe? Europe can be brutal and harsh (policy wise) to non EU citizens, talk less of an African on a visitors visa. You don't have any access to legal work and it will be an uphill battle. Plan very well.

Good day with d economic suituation in Nigeria
Man need plan B. With a tourist visa which take 3 months like Germany where I base what happened after ur paper expired like in Germany for example for u to have ur paper is either u get married or u have a child. Talk with ur wife very well because it’s not a decision u will just take but if u know if u invest in ur business u will make more money. My brother invest and stay with your family. Discuss it with ur wife because she has a very important role to play.

nairamaniac:
the magun is not visible. It's spiritual.

But for real, there are less chances of someone fvckin your wife if she's not attractive

true

Dude.... I would not stay in Europe on a tourist visa... Asylum, maybe.... Regardless., I suggest you go visit and come back... Innovate with your business and make some revenue with time.... Visit and travel Europe as a business man or tourist.... Eventually, you can take your family on an a trip to Europe... Then if you decide to stay with your family, all good... But for now, your children and wife need you... But if you decide to stay in Europe, prepare yourself for second class life, lack of happiness and living like a criminal... However, if you want quick papers in Europe prepare to marry someone else to get an in Europe outside asylum way.

Again, do what floats your boat... But my take is real Europe and look for business opportunities... Look for a supplier that you can start buying from small small and build good relationship in Europe if you are into trades... Europe without papers is tough and be ready to betray your principles to progress.

Gwin007:
Good day nairalanders.. please I need advice on what to do.. am married with three kids, 5, 3 , and a year old.. I own a bussines.. but for now my bussines is down, the has been very good and lucrative.. but due to lack of capital to invest more on it. It was now shaking.. but the thing now is that.. I have the capital to invest on the bussines.. but now am saying should relocate abroad with the money and leave my 3kids and wife back home or invest on the bussines.. cus am traveling with a tourist visa and it’s a Europe country and I don’t how long it will take to get my papers over there please Nairaland I really need ur opinion not make future mistakes

Thanks

U don talk am finish!
Upto him to accept or reject your advice

Fountainofyouth:
Tourist visa of what, 6 months? And after that you'll become a illegal immigrant? Why do you people like to invite problems for yourselves? Why can't you go there the right way legally then invite your family and live happily ever after? You want to become an illegal that will always stay under the radar so as not to be detected and deported, spending decades without physically seeing your family then expect your wife to remain faithful and loyal while you do countless shenanigans over there,

Oga stay in naija and hustle, you are not ripe to travel out yet.

Dikastan:
Do a legit paper and go. If you have a reliable agent, you can travel and make it even if it takes a little time. You can go over there and acquire a skill to boost yourself. I have a similar plan with you . Don't go with your family now and don't worry about wife's infidelity,any woman that wants to cheat will cheat even under your nose.
1. Make sure you use a reliable agent
2. You need to do a serious spiritual work, especially through prayer to clear your way spiritually so that forces of darkeness won't frustrate your plans.
3. Be positive and strong,life is about risk. Take it and make it

your no2 just make me laugh u. Na them be this, bro abeg run from this kind advise. Even person wey won commit sucide go tell u sey e don pray before the decision am not telling u that prayer is bad o. But u need to distinguish between putting God to the test and praying. Equip yourself very well with a good skull before u travel and with the right document. Like someone suggested work and study visa is a nice idea if u are well skilled u are good to go. If u have these u can carry on with your prayers

You Nailed it

JamParkMe:
Traveling overases with just a tourist visa is like voluntarily hopping into a slave ship during the times of slavery. If you were a young and single guy, I can understand the risk vs reward but as a married guy with children, I don't think it's very wise.

You will basically have to start afresh, working menial jobs for less than minimum wage because anyone hiring an illegal immigrant will exploit them as they have no legs to stand on and are desperate for work. Your best hope of eventually getting papers would be to do a fake marriage with a citizen but that comes with very high costs, abuse from the citizen and risk of the immigration services denying such marriage after all the money and years spent.

How about your wife and kids? How is your wife supposed to get intimacy when you are gone for years? Don't you realize, intimacy like food and shelter is a basic human need? You will likely be cheating on your wife but woe betide your wife if she sleeps around. How about your kids, who will be the father figure they need at such tender age? Most of these cultists and armed robbers you see today had no responsible fathers in their lives.

I will say you should sit down and think outside the box for ways to improve your business or for new business ideas. Don't let the pressure of japa syndrome make you make a move you will ultimately regret. I too have felt the urge to abandon it all and relocate overseas, but the risk vs reward doesn't make any sense and there are no guarantees in life.

Oga if you neva get wife for dat side beta sit ya ass home! E nor easy as agent dey tell you

Oga your wife is gone in advance. You don carry your food give cat to chop.

Good luck brosie...

Unrated900:
This is the plan.

Settle your house payment at least 2 years from this moment.

2.drop one million naira for feeding and upkeeping for your wife and kids.and.tell.your wife to manage it without going to parties.

3.use the remaining money to travel abroad and start hustling within 1 to 2 years you will be stable of bringing your wife and kids there with you..

4.do this and thank me after 2 years.


5.dont listen to anyone's much advice here on nairaland

Most of em are kids and have no family.

God will guide you in all you do.....

Bro I had to quote you because of your comment, I'm in the same exact situation as him, I have 5 million with two kids and wife.

Which country do you think will be best but not that tourist visa ?

I have been thinking for days now without enough good sleep

Why don't you invest the money you have in business here? Going with a tourist visa with a plan to stay and work is risky. Those who want to make money out of you will not tell you the truth.

The other option is to get a legitimate work visa before you leave and have enough to sustain you for some months before you're stable on a job.

Fountainofyouth:
Tourist visa of what, 6 months? And after that you'll become a illegal immigrant? Why do you people like to invite problems for yourselves? Why can't you go there the right way legally then invite your family and live happily ever after? You want to become an illegal that will always stay under the radar so as not to be detected and deported, spending decades without physically seeing your family then expect your wife to remain faithful and loyal while you do countless shenanigans over there,

Oga stay in naija and hustle, you are not ripe to travel out yet.

HIS BEST FRIEND WILL IMPREGNATE HIS WIFE BEFOE HE GETS HIS PAPERS after 15 years - and he too will end up with one old oyinbo woman or a very bitter naija single mother there who will be showing him shege - guy stay home oo - the family you seek to improve financially will end up being lost to the demon of a broken home!

Bussiness? Illiterate ppl will have a tough time abroad.😁
OP, stay home with your family and do the best you can.

BareFacedLies:


Them go fúck your wife tire, I just dey pity you

you are SIMPLY WICKED... bro, the bitter truth u don yan so - men go slack dat tow tow ehnnn - him no go recognize am again

Gwin007:
Good day nairalanders.. please I need advice on what to do.. am married with three kids, 5, 3 , and a year old.. I own a bussines.. but for now my bussines is down, the has been very good and lucrative.. but due to lack of capital to invest more on it. It was now shaking.. but the thing now is that.. I have the capital to invest on the bussines.. but now am saying should relocate abroad with the money and leave my 3kids and wife back home or invest on the bussines.. cus am traveling with a tourist visa and it’s a Europe country and I don’t how long it will take to get my papers over there please Nairaland I really need ur opinion not make future mistakes

Thanks

My candid advise would be don't try hustling abroad with visiting visa and leaving your young family behind.

Concerning your business, don't expect any business you do at this time will be profitable as it used to be and business nowadays requires higher capital to survive. I will advise that you look into a new business that requires like 500k to 1m that make a reasonable profit and
start it. Then grow the business to a higher height and become a major player in it as you would still have more money to play it big at a later time

Gwin007:
Good day nairalanders.. please I need advice on what to do.. am married with three kids, 5, 3 , and a year old.. I own a bussines.. but for now my bussines is down, the has been very good and lucrative.. but due to lack of capital to invest more on it. It was now shaking.. but the thing now is that.. I have the capital to invest on the bussines.. but now am saying should relocate abroad with the money and leave my 3kids and wife back home or invest on the bussines.. cus am traveling with a tourist visa and it’s a Europe country and I don’t how long it will take to get my papers over there please Nairaland I really need ur opinion not make future mistakes

Thanks

Please and please stay back.

If you have skills.. Then use skills rout... Look for companies that offer sponsorship and apply from Nigeria. It will be easy if you are in health field but if not then IT skills... Go to udemy get courses and learn. Before then research on IT skills in high demand in such countries.
The look for local companies in Nigeria and apply first, even if the pay is peanuts.. You are after real life experience. Do it 6months with them and start applying abroad via sponsorship

Please and please don't travel without adequate plans.. I am warning you..




Else you will regret it

Your japa plan looks weak to me compared to what you have on the ground here. Stay and do your business. You will be lord here rather than being a slave, running from security officials in Europe. Plus, when you stay, you see your children grow and enjoy fellowship with your wife.

delpee:
Why don't you invest the money you have in business here? Going with a tourist visa with a plan to stay and work is risky. Those who want to make money out of you will not tell you the truth.

The other option is to get a legitimate work visa before you leave and have enough to sustain you for some months before you're stable on a job.

We that have visa to work never see.

No landlord will ever rent you a house..
No employer will rent you a house..

Until you have right to rent and right to work codes.
He will end up in refugee camp with cold to deal with, with hunger etc.

This white has computerised everything.

Abydupank:


If the country is in the schengen area, go when you arrive there, travel to Poland, buy Poland work permit for like 700 eur -comes out in 3 weeks, then use the polish work permit to apply for Temporary residence card. Then you are able to come to Nigeria back even before march. Afterwards, you can invite the family to Poland using your temporary residence card.

Thank me later..

Where did you get this information from? I'm in Europe and nothing like this exist. The OP is about to take biggest risk of his life. It is God that has been there for us here. I will not discourage you, come and try your luck sha. But you will miss those children a lot.

Pray and pray well.

Gwin007:
Thank you.. please which other processes can I use to travel legally but my budget is 5m naira

What's 5 million naira..

I came to Europe with almost 2m plus after spending 15m plus in Nigeria and also top it 2m plus... Still needing money like mad


Please stay back... Stay back else

Gwin007:
Good day nairalanders.. please I need advice on what to do.. am married with three kids, 5, 3 , and a year old.. I own a bussines.. but for now my bussines is down, the has been very good and lucrative.. but due to lack of capital to invest more on it. It was now shaking.. but the thing now is that.. I have the capital to invest on the bussines.. but now am saying should relocate abroad with the money and leave my 3kids and wife back home or invest on the bussines.. cus am traveling with a tourist visa and it’s a Europe country and I don’t how long it will take to get my papers over there please Nairaland I really need ur opinion not make future mistakes

Thanks

My opinion
Invest in your business and put more efforts to be successful in the business, take care of yourself and your family when you make it in your business you can always travel with your family to anywhere in the world.
Some are destined to be great in Nigeria and the truth is not everyone make it abroad.
If you have a working strategy in Nigeria just stay.
I wish you all the best

olufak2001:


Where did you get this information from? I'm in Europe and nothing like this exist. The OP is about to take biggest risk of us life. It is God that has be there for us here. I will not discourage you, come and try your luck sha. But you will miss those children a lot.

Pray and pray well.

Don't mind those set of people with all know all... Pushing people into regret of life

adontcare:
5mil is small. Plan and save more. Then apply for study visa for just u. U will have to do research very well so that agents won't eat your money.

.
How much do you have in your account?

Dikastan:
Do a legit paper and go. If you have a reliable agent, you can travel and make it even if it takes a little time. You can go over there and acquire a skill to boost yourself. I have a similar plan with you . Don't go with your family now and don't worry about wife's infidelity,any woman that wants to cheat will cheat even under your nose.
1. Make sure you use a reliable agent
2. You need to do a serious spiritual work, especially through prayer to clear your way spiritually so that forces of darkeness won't frustrate your plans.
3. Be positive and strong,life is about risk. Take it and make it

best advice for me especially as regards his wife.

Go ahead and make your trip to save your family from poverty if you had prayed about it,
your wife is not your wife if you are poor.
I was 41 when I traveled to hussle leaving behind all I got, today wife and children in Canada after 7 years.
If I had listened to people and stay probably turned to a ritualist now because of the situation of the country.
Run ooo but never forget your children and wife support.

Gwin007:
Good day nairalanders.. please I need advice on what to do.. am married with three kids, 5, 3 , and a year old.. I own a bussines.. but for now my bussines is down, the has been very good and lucrative.. but due to lack of capital to invest more on it. It was now shaking.. but the thing now is that.. I have the capital to invest on the bussines.. but now am saying should relocate abroad with the money and leave my 3kids and wife back home or invest on the bussines.. cus am traveling with a tourist visa and it’s a Europe country and I don’t how long it will take to get my papers over there please Nairaland I really need ur opinion not make future mistakes

Thanks

Mccullum:


Who told you that they were not speaking native languages anymore in Rwanda?

Joining different ethnicities together as a country didn't peculiar or happened only in Africa.

In UK, they have Scottish and other ethnicities with their native languages but English is their general language which belong to England.

China too is like that while Mandalin is their general language, the Arabs too had different languages but Saudi Arabia's Arabic language is their general language.

Africans are suffering from inferiority complex, Africans are suffering from greediness, that's the back bone of corruption.

With all resources and fertile lands of African countries, mentality of our leaders and the led brought us to where we are today.

Europeans, Asians solved their differences with sincerity of purpose, that's why they were at where they found themselves today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Europe


See full list of all the battles that were fought in Europe before you are seeing the peaceful Europe of today.
Even USA is the result of a Battle.
British people just entered a ship and ran away to US and refused to come back.
King of England was threatening them. But they just did him kpasko, becuase he can't run after them.
Na im O!. That's how USA was formed.
They sha still fought Civil war inside that USA

"Will a man gather fire in his blossom and not be burned?"

You have 5 million naira for your travel plans yet you claim none to put in your business.

It is insensitive to leave your wife and those kids to travel abroad on a tourist visa. You are taking a shot in the dark.

Unless your wife has a strong extra support from her own family, the story won't be palatable as you most likely will not be able to make hence send money back in the first few months.

Bros, stay back. Put the 5 million in your business.
And enjoy your family.

1. Be ready to adapt.

2. first learn stuff, you can do with your hands, e.g., barbing, weaving of women hair.

These example of jobs; you can do without work permit. and you get paid cash. You can post the county.

3. If you are travelling on a tourist visa, learn stuff that, u get paid with cash.

Lol with all honesty....
5 million won't do much for you
I won't lie
My Germany trip cost

bosco9:


Bro I had to quote you because of your comment, I'm in the same exact situation as him, I have 5 million with two kids and wife.

Which country do you think will be best but not that tourist visa ?

I have been thinking for days now without enough good sleep

How can someone get link on working visa

Fountainofyouth:


There are work and student visa, you can go through any of those route if you have the necessary requirements.