Dustbinbint:


Mmhm, but then a spirit didn't mate with any human. God just transferred Jesus' life into Mary's womb.

If we were to dissect the sex process, a woman can get pregnant without a man mating with her, through in-vitro fertilization. Right?

The idea of angels mating with human goes father back than the Roman or even the Hellenistic times. The story, found in some form in almost all nations, is a true story that goes back to the time when angels constructed human bodies, came to the earth, and mated with women, given birth to a hybrid race called Nephilim.
After this world was destroyed during the flood, this story was perpetuated by the only surviving eyewitnesses to their children and their children's children, and so on.

a woman needs a mans input(sperm) to become pregnant. END OF STORY

Maynman:

What did the scholars say about it? Which one did you read?
Please talk intelligently, sorry

As it is highly unlikely that a hypothetical Christian interpolator would have called Jesus "Chrestus", placed him in Rome in 49, or called him a "troublemaker", the overwhelming majority of scholars conclude that the passage is genuine.[26]








The spelling issue

Chresto (ablative of Chrestus) is the most trustworthy spelling in Suetonius' work. William L. Lane states that the confusion between Chrestus and Christus was natural enough for Suetonius, given that at that point in history the distinction between spelling and pronunciation was negligible.[34] Lane states that this is supported by the spelling of Christians in Acts 11:26, Acts 26:28 and in 1 Peter 4:16 where the uncial codex Sinaiticus reads Chrestianos.[34] Raymond E. Brown states in the second century, when Suetonius wrote, both Christus (Christ) and Christianus (Christian) were often written with an "e" instead of an "i" after the "r".[35] In Suetonius Nero 16 the word "Christians" is spelled christiani.

22jumpstreet1:

Torah is the way the truth and the life....whoever is lead by it can never be lost...

Sonmvayina stop quoting me no matter how many times you come with different accounts i can see you through the comment.
Go and continue obeying your Torah we are Jehovah's Witnesses if you can't present a group that's benefiting themselves using your Torah then your Torah is DEAD!

Dustbinbint:


I won't read the book because I have extensively researched the bases for my beliefs. Now, I have given myself wholly into it because I am fully convinced it is true. So, I don't give much attention to those materials saying otherwise. In my experience, it is still a repetition of the same things I have examined.

But from the title I can sense that it's about the killings of the Canaanites that God commanded.
If I am right, my comprehensive reply to this will come still later.

For the meantime, though, here is a short illustration:

The owner of a program has the right to destroy it if it becomes corrupted by a virus, or if it has accomplished the reason it was created.
People can build majestic houses just to destroy them during a movie they are acting or for other valid reason.

If these things are THEIR property, can’t they do as they deem fit to them?

When did your God Jehovah become a human being? So, your God Jehovah is also as fallible as we humans? If so, why should I worship such a foolish God?

Dustbinbint:


As it is highly unlikely that a hypothetical Christian interpolator would have called Jesus "Chrestus", placed him in Rome in 49, or called him a "troublemaker", the overwhelming majority of scholars conclude that the passage is genuine.[26]

"placed him in Rome in 49", and this man was called chrestos.

Maynman:

Ehn nah!

Can't you see i don't want to chat with you?

MaxInDHouse:

Can't you see i don't want to chat with you?

Yet you keep replying.

Eye service

22jumpstreet1:

a woman needs a mans input(sperm) to become pregnant. END OF STORY

A sperm is needed, not THE MATING BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
However, what is it that is ACTUALLY needed?

An egg CAN be fertilized without a sperm.
https://www.wionews.com/science/baby-without-sperm-and-egg-scientists-create-synthetic-human-embryos-in-major-leap-604576

Therefore, the sperm is simply the carrier. The genetic material the sperm carries is what causes the egg to be fertilized.

Maynman:

Yet you keep replying.
Eye service

OK henceforth i'll ignore you!

MaxInDHouse:

OK henceforth i'll ignore you!

Just like you god that dictated the Torah, DEAD

Dustbinbint:


An egg CAN be fertilized without a sperm.
https://www.wionews.com/science/baby-without-sperm-and-egg-scientists-create-synthetic-human-embryos-in-major-leap-604576

Did you even read your link?
Is this how you research your beliefs?

Dustbinbint:


A sperm is needed, not THE MATING BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
However, what is it that is ACTUALLY needed?

An egg CAN be fertilized without a sperm.
https://www.wionews.com/science/baby-without-sperm-and-egg-scientists-create-synthetic-human-embryos-in-major-leap-604576

Therefore, the sperm is simply the carrier. The genetic material the sperm carries is what causes the egg to be fertilized.

Was Jesus sperm created in the lab?

MaxInDHouse:

Sonmvayina stop quoting me no matter how many times you come with different accounts i can see you through the comment.
Go and continue obeying your Torah we are Jehovah's Witnesses if you can't present a group that's benefiting themselves using your Torah then your Torah is DEAD!

its me quite alright..

i created this moniker on my laptop when i could not remember my password for the other account.

no biggie here..

There are million of people round the world obeying it..

we don't need to form a group or cult...

my mind tells me you where really abused as a kid hence your attachment to such group...

i might be wrong.

musicwriter:


When did your God Jehovah become a human being? So, your God Jehovah is also as fallible as we humans? If so, why should I worship such a foolish God?

So.would it make any difference if God is the creator of the program instead?

You must understand that I am buying time from less important things to reply to you. If I sense that your question is not genuine, I will turn to those things I deemed less important as they will now be more important.

I called it an illustration, and where is the contention? Or do you not know that an illustration is something that make a point more relatable and comprehensible?
Here is another illustration: do not animal owners kill their animals when they become so dangerous and unmanageable, or for food, or for clothing? Will you accuse them?


Now if you can kill a program you made by reason of its defectiveness, and if you kill an animal you own because if the danger it poses to you and others, can not God do the same to the things he created—living or not?

Dustbinbint:


Now if you can kill a program you made by reason of its defectiveness, and if you kill an animal you own because if the danger it poses to you and others, can not God do the same to the things he created—living or not?

The defectiveness shows the limitations of the programmer.

22jumpstreet1:


Was Jesus sperm created in the lab?

In a sense, you can say so. In the spiritual realm, God conducted a “procedure” where he had to convert Jesus life into a form that could fertilize Mary's egg cell.

Maynman:

The defectiveness shows the limitations of the programmer.

In the illustration I gave, the program got corrupted by a virus, certainly not the programmer's fault.

Dustbinbint:


In the illustration I gave, the program got corrupted by a virus, certainly not the programmer's fault.

Of course it's the programmer fault, a perfect program won't be corrupted.
Who created the virus?

Maynman:

Did you even read your link?
Is this how you research your beliefs?

This particular issue is about whether or not a sperm cell is needed for an egg cell to be fertilized, and nothing more. The link I provided showed that it is possible. Anything beyond that isn't an issue of contention.

Dustbinbint:


This particular issue is about whether or not a sperm cell is needed for an egg cell to be fertilized, and nothing more. The link I provided showed that it is possible. Anything beyond that isn't an issue of contention.

No it didn't, stop lying, go and read it.
Here
https://www.wionews.com/science/baby-without-sperm-and-egg-scientists-create-synthetic-human-embryos-in-major-leap-604576

Maynman:

Of course it's the programmer fault, a perfect program won't be corrupted.
Who created the virus?

Should I seriously reply to this? Someone else will, don't worry.

Dustbinbint:


Should I seriously reply to this? Someone else will, don't worry.

Keep running....

Dustbinbint:


This particular issue is about whether or not a sperm cell is needed for an egg cell to be fertilized, and nothing more. The link I provided showed that it is possible. Anything beyond that isn't an issue of contention.

And it's so funny how you are looking for science discovery and the same science proved to you that evolution is fact, what's the basis/criterias of the cherry picking?

Dustbinbint:


So.would it make any difference if God is the creator of the program instead?

You must understand that I am buying time from less important things to reply to you. If I sense that your question is not genuine, I will turn to those things I deemed less important as they will now be more important.

I called it an illustration, and where is the contention? Or do you not know that an illustration is something that make a point more relatable and comprehensible?
Here is another illustration: do not animal owners kill their animals when they become so dangerous and unmanageable, or for food, or for clothing? Will you accuse them?


Now if you can kill a program you made by reason of its defectiveness, and if you kill an animal you own because if the danger it poses to you and others, can not God do the same to the things he created—living or not?

You're really pressing hard to make me believe that your God Jehovah Yahweh enjoys and, in fact, is responsible for all the anarchy, war, suffering and terrorism going on in the world.

Why should I worship such a fool who'll allow a terrorist bomb innocent people somewhere tomorrow?

Why should I worship a foolish God that would allow car accidents somewhere tomorrow?

Why should I worship a fool that would allow an earthquake to kill innocent people somewhere tomorrow?

Why should I worship a fool that would allow the roof of a building to collapse on top of people who would go to worship him somewhere tomorrow?

It must be that your God Jehovah enjoy seeing his creation suffer

musicwriter:


Oh! You're a witness?

I attended Jehovah's witnesses church in my village as a kid, and even after leaving Christianity, I can admittedly say that you people have a good philosophy if only you can remove the Jesus mythology.

You don't need Jesus to know God or to be a good person. China and Japan are among the least corrupt countries in the world. They did it without Jesus.

Jesus is the God of slaves, God of defeated people. Were your ancestors conquered by another culture? That's why you believe in Jesus.

Where were the Gods of your ancestors, when the Europeans came to conquer them?

Or you should tell us more about the God you're talking about.

cornelboy:

Where were the Gods of your ancestors, when the Europeans came to conquer them?
.

The same place where the isrealite Gods was when they were taken as slaves in Egypt and conquered by Babylonians.
Not to forget the Holocaust too

22jumpstreet1:

its me quite alright..
i created this moniker on my laptop when i could not remember my password for the other account.
no biggie here..
There are million of people round the world obeying it..
we don't need to form a group or cult...
my mind tells me you where really abused as a kid hence your attachment to such group...
i might be wrong.

Intellect should tell you that there is no reason for laws in the absence of an organized people when God created the earth there was no Torah because only Adam and Eve existed as humans on this planet and God never made laws not until He established a nation that needs to be ORGANIZED.
So your thinking that people should randomly obey some laws without being ORGANIZED makes no sense at least those obeying laws should be grouped in order to know how they can assist one another when anyone is downhearted because depression kills morals and there's no law that can suppress depression except those close to you with whom you're keeping the same laws.
That's why you can never make any sense to me as long as you're not ready to present an organized people living by the laws you choose. Torah was like a king meant to keep the Israelites together as one family until the Messiah comes {Genesis 49:10} it's the Messiah that will establish the laws to govern all other PEOPLES no longer will the Torah be relevant after the coming of the Messiah.
The Torah became useless when people aren't living in the same geographical location that's what Jesus meant when he said:

"You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews. Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshippers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for indeed, the Father is looking for ones like these to worship him. God is a Spirit, and those worshipping him must worship with spirit and truth." John 4:22-24

By the time Jesus uttered the above statement the Samaritans (ten northern tribes of Israel) were no longer using the Torah only the Jews (three southern tribes) were still operating with it that's why Jesus told the Samaritan woman it will no longer be in force since the worshipers of Jehovah won't need to be in the same geographical location.

So calling God's people "CULT" will not change the fact that there is no need for LAWS if those living by it are not ORGANIZED its when they are organized that observers can see the sense behind the laws.

Dustbinbint:

In a sense, you can say so. In the spiritual realm, God conducted a “procedure” where he had to convert Jesus life into a form that could fertilize Mary's egg cell.

Sonmvayina (22jumpstreet1) is a victim of one Judaist who has so brainwashed him with the idea that all the Gods worshiped throughout the planet are the same so whatever brings Jesus into what you want to say Sonmvayina will continue to oppose it no matter how much beneficial it could be!

cornelboy:

Where were the Gods of your ancestors, when the Europeans came to conquer them?
Or you should tell us more about the God you're talking about.

I have noticed that the young man isn't really interested in the truth it's the condition he found himself that determines the direction of his thoughts!
He feels that since black people believe in Jesus Africa supposed to be advanced like the countries where the Bible came from.
He doesn't know that God has no business with the system humans subjected themselves into! Ecclesiastes 8:9

Maynman:

The same place where the isrealite Gods was when they were taken as slaves in Egypt and conquered by Babylonians.
Not to forget the Holocaust too

Do you have a mind? Does it exist?

cornelboy:

Do you have a mind? Does it exist?

Do you have one?
Where is it?