Michael547:

Can you see that your article too suggests that the universe had a beginning. It says that there are 'uncertainties and unknowns surrounding the beginning of the universe'. the article stressed the point that while the big bang occurred, it was preceeded by and set up by an inflationary state. So what caused the inflationary state that caused the big bang for the universe of space time and matter to appear?

Nowhere does this article deny that the universe had a start or beginning.

Can't you read?

Maynman:

Can't you read?

What was the inflationary state made up of?

Michael547:

What was the inflationary state made up of?

What is existence made of?

And mind you it was you that brought in big bang, I'm just riding with you.

Maynman:

Pure consciousness.
You need your sense organs to experience life.
Body does not experience, your mind does.

What happens to people born blind or can't walk

Blacklion3:

What happens to people born blind or can't walk

A person born blind has never seen darkness nor light before, which means they have never seen a color before.
If you can't walk, you can't have the experience, have you noticed that when you walking, you are doing other things and Walking is just going on?

Michael547:

What was the inflationary state made up of?

Is your god nothing?
If no
That means he must be made of something.

Maynman:

What is existence made of?

And mind you it was you that brought in big bang, I'm just riding with you.

Lol.....is the article denying that the universe had a beginning or that a big bang occurred? It is only arguing that something preceded the big bang.
And you said you read the article oo.

You have jumped to the word 'existence' as a place of soft landing after proving to you that matter and the universe in scientific terms had a beginning.

Michael547:

Lol.....is the article denying that the universe had a beginning or that a big bang occurred? It is only arguing that something preceded the big bang.
And you said you read the article oo.

You have jumped to the word 'existence' as a place of soft landing after proving to you that matter and the universe in scientific terms had a beginning.

Bro, are you reading what you posted?

Maynman:


Bro, are you reading what you posted?

Oya explain the pics I posted

Michael547:

Oya explain the pics I posted

Read it yourself.

Maynman:

Read it yourself.

Lol....show me where the article said the universe did not have a beginning or a big bang did not occur.

Michael547:

Lol....show me where the article said the universe did not have a beginning or a big bang did not occur.

Read the whole article and it's there.
Especially the last one you posted.

Maynman:

Read the whole article and it's there.
Especially the last one you posted.

Oga if you read the whole article you would understand it. The article is not denying a beginning or a big bang occurrence, but is saying that the big bang was not the starting point....that something preceded and set up the big bang.

Michael547:

Oga if you read the whole article you would understand it. The article is not denying a beginning or a big bang occurrence, but is saying that the big bang was not the starting point....that something preceded and set up the big bang.

Was that something not in existence?

Did the article say the something have a beginning?

Maynman:

Was that something not in existence?

Did the article say the something have a beginning?

Lol....so if the inflationary state was existing forever, why did it cause the big bang to happen only 13.8 billion years ago?

Michael547:

Lol....so if the inflationary state was existing forever, why did it cause the big bang to happen only 13.8 billion years ago?

That's what the scientists know for now, we will have more on inflationary state as research goes on.

I don't think you can fathom "forever", existence always is.

Maynman:

That's what the scientists know for now, we will have more on inflationary state as research goes on.

I don't think you can fathom "forever", existence always is.

😆 🤣 😂......so all your knowledge is still an ongoing process and you are here telling me that you can fathom forever and existence but i cannot.
Oga even the scientists can never fathom forever. What we know today scientifically pertaining to the universe is that it had a beginning. Oga go and rest Mr 'existence' and forever🤣🤣.

Maynman:

That's what the scientists know for now, we will have more on inflationary state as research goes on.

I don't think you can fathom "forever", existence always is.

Oga your pictorial evidence still shows that the universe had a beginning. If you like call it 100 billion years ago.

Michael547:

😆 🤣 😂......so all your knowledge is still an ongoing process and you are here telling me that you can fathom forever and existence but i cannot.
Oga even the scientists can never fathom forever. What we know today scientifically pertaining to the universe is that it had a beginning. Oga go and rest Mr 'existence' and forever🤣🤣.

Knowledge is always going on, more is Been added, that's why science has achieve in few decades what religion could not for centuries.

Michael547:

Oga your pictorial evidence still shows that the universe had a beginning. If you like call it 100 billion years ago.

So do you agree with the big bang?
Because it was you that brought it in

Maynman:

Knowledge is always going on, more is Been added, that's why science has achieve in few decades what religion could not for centuries.

I have heard you oga.....I am not against science. Good night.

Maynman:

So do you agree with the big bang?
Because it was you that brought it in

Yes I agree with the big bang.

Michael547:

I have heard you oga.....I am not against science. Good night.

Then you will knowledge is going on every moment, better than living in the past.

Goodnight.

Michael547:

Yes I agree with the big bang.

So, evolution too?

Maynman:

So, evolution too?

It depends on what you mean by evolution. I believe In micro evolution (changes in physical properties within a kind e.g different species of dogs) but not in macro evolution(Changing of a kind to another kind e.g fish can change to amphibian).

Michael547:

It depends on what you mean by evolution. I believe In micro evolution (changes in physical properties within a kind e.g different species of dogs) but not in macro evolution(Changing of a kind to another kind e.g fish can change to amphibian).

So where do you think all life comes from after the big bang?

Maynman:

So where do you think all life comes from after the big bang?

I believe that life and the universe came as a result of a supernatural intervention from God. And that if there was a big bang or an inflationary phase that preceded the universe, it was caused by God. Genesis 1:1 admits that the universe had a beginning but it was caused by an intelligent creator referred to as 'God'.

Michael547:

I believe that life and the universe came as a result of a supernatural intervention from God. And that if there was a big bang or an inflationary phase that preceded the universe, it was caused by God. Genesis 1:1 admits that the universe had a beginning but it was caused by an intelligent creator referred to as 'God'.

So you don't accept big bang again?

Maynman:

So you don't accept big bang again?

I do.....it is a scientific fact. Accepting big bang does not remove the fact that someone supernatural was behind it. Even science today cannot really tell us the exact beginning of the universe or even life on earth. It is still largely a mystery in the scientific field.

Michael547:

I do.....it is a scientific fact. Accepting big bang does not remove the fact that someone supernatural was behind it. Even science today cannot really tell us the exact beginning of the universe or even life on earth. It is still largely a mystery in the scientific field.

Evolution is also a scientific fact.

Science tell us that life started on water and it's fact.

Since you accept big bang then you accept how universe began.

Maynman:

Evolution is also a scientific fact.

Science tell us that life started on water and it's fact.

We would discuss this later today....I want to sleep now.....you can contact me on whatsapp on 08167469103 for easier communication. Good night.

Michael547:

We would discuss this later today....I want to sleep now.....you can contact me on whatsapp on 08167469103 for easier communication. Good night.

No need, when you are ready to discuss how you accept big bang of billions of years ago and how you don't accept Evolution.
You'll also tell me how Big bang includes Adam and Eve.

Goodnight 😉