Me thinks death is an illusion as life is all there is, I might be wrong, is there anybody else with a different opinion. Feel free to educate us...

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sonmvayina:
Me thinks death is an illusion as life is all there is, I might be wrong, is there anybody else with a different opinion. Feel free to educate us...

Thanks

Yes life is all there is. Death does not exist in the way and manner many assume it to. Since we are a being in a shell known as a body, this shell expires (that is what death is in reality). An expiration of this physical shell.

The real being occupying the shell only has life in it since its source was also life. So what happens after we expire physically is that we live on either in heaven or in hell. Both places experience eternity of living. One for good and one for bad.

The bible says that after God formed man from the ground he put HIS BREATH IN HIM AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL.

The breath of God which comes from him is only life giving and his focus is on our soul which is eternal and not on our body which is set to expire quickly.

Death, in its literal sense, is the end of living as we know it. It is the state that a body gets to usually after breathing stops. A dead thing does not exist in the state in which it heretofore existed. A dead body becomes lifeless and rots.

Some believe a separation of the being occurs and that it is only the body that rots and dies while that which they call the spirit goes on living in other realms. However, there is no evidence whatsoever for this believe, as no one has ever seen this so called spirit or died and continued to live. Nor has any credible evidence been brought forth for any sort of existence anywhere after death.

The Greek mythologies told us about the Elysium Fields(Fake)!!!

The legends of King Arthur told us about Avalon(There is only evidence for the Toyota Avalon)!!!

Hassan Sabah told his followers about the island of the island with many virgins(a brothel in Cyprus?).

And now the Pentecostals are talking about mansions in the sky(International Space Station is the closest we will get to that)!!!

When you die, you become fertilizer!!!

Death is just an illusion...

A big deception...no need to fear

sonmvayina:

Death is just an illusion...
A big deception...no need to fear

So when your wife or son die you need not feel bad after all it's just an illusion.

sonmvayina:
Death is just an illusion...

A big deception...no need to fear

True.
Life is eternal, it has no beginning or end. No birth or death.

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What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by God2man2again(m): 7:25am On Mar 26, 2022
This is not a topic to create fear or panic. It is not a premonition on any nairalanders. It is not a thread to scare anybody but rather a thread that calls for sober reflection on the issue of death. It is a topic to gain knowledge about the issue of death and see what we can do to minimize or stop the untimely death rate if possible.
I am not going to die untimely or mourn over any one close to me. I don't wish death on anyone. I don't have premonition of death on anyone.
For more emphasis, confess this scripture to yourself, 21 times.
Psalm 118:17. Mention your name and say it loud and clear.
I SHALL NOT DIE BUT LIVE TO PROCLAIM THE GLORY OF GOD.
1 Corinthians 15:57 "But thanks be to God, which giveth us victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.


You will agree with me that in recent years, precisely, 2019 to 2022. After the invasion of the deadly virus, Corona virus, it has become messy all over the world, no day passing without hearing that somebody died one way or the other.
You hear husband murdered wife in cold blood. Wife killed husband with knife. Five men gang raped a 15yrs old girl to death. Man found dead in hotel room. A lady was found dead in the hotel. The second wife killed the husband. People now died before their time. Accident killed so so people. A student commit suicide. The headless body of a girl was found in the bush. Man died during s.ex rump. Even the rich are not left out. Celebrities, actors, actresses, musicians and footballers died too soon.

Look around you, you will see the posters of gone too soon. RIP, Obituaries, celebration of life, died after a brief illness.

It is so sad you keep asking why are people dying anyhow?

Before answering this question, we need to know the meaning of death.

What is death?

Death is SEPARATION.


Death is the cutting off from fulfilling God's purpose for which he or she was created.

To understand the next meaning of death, you must understand that man is a tripartite being consisting of the body, the spirit and the soul.

Death can be physical in the sense that the spirit leaves the body with the soul, in other words, soul and Spirit SEPARATE from the body. The body becomes useless without the soul and Spirit.

Death can be spiritual when man is eternally SEPARATED from God because of SIN.
It is possible to be spiritually dead and be alive in the body, that is, dead in the spirit, a sinner or a Church goer, they are alive physically in the church but spiritually, they are dead.

It is also possible to be physically dead and buried in the grave and consciously alive in hell fire in soul and spirit.

The issue of re-incarnation or Akudaya is another topic not for now.

Why death?

Physical death came about due to the consequence of sin.
Romans 5:12 " Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by SIN; and so death passed upon ALL MEN, for that ALL have SINNED."

1 Corinthians 15:56A" The Sting of death is sin;"

Again, 1 Corinthians 15:57"But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory our Lord Jesus Christ"

Why are people dying anyhow?

Sin is the cause of the death but that is not the only reason why people died.

Sometimes, people died untimely due to Carelessness on their part not going to the hospital for medical check-up, not observing simple road signs to avoid accident or prayerlessnes as the case may be.

God in his sovereign may decide to take his beloved home to heaven by his own prerogative. God knows best .Only God knows. God knows why.

How many people die each day?

According to Google,

Deaths per day. 116,279

Deaths per hour. 6,928

Deaths per minute 115

Deaths per second 1.92

Nigeria is number 4 on death rate by country with a total 6,561 while China is number 1 with 30,373 followed by India 28,279 and United States, number 3 with 8,295.

People can be killed in so many ways or for various reasons.
For clarity, I would like to enumerate about 100

1. Sickness
2. Accident
3. Drug overdose
4. Wrong prescription of vaccine
5. Witches
6. Occultist
7. Herbalist
8. Fake prophet
9. Fake Imam or Alfa
10. Generational battle
11. Carelessness, mistakes or negligent.
12. Electric shock
13. NEPA
14. Evil clinic or hospital
15. Hotel issues
16. Too much food
17. Oversleeping
18. Poverty
19. Too much money
20. S.ex
21. Evil film or movie
22. Words, voices or utterances
23. Curses
24. Pride
25. Incantations
26. Flood
27. Evil altar
28. Fire outbreak
29. Mammy water
30. Ogboni cult
31. Eyes
32. Shaking of hands
33. Okada
34. Tricycle
35. Thunder
36. Lighting
37. Satanic book
38. Poison
39. Clothes
40. Husband
41. Wife
42. Two wives
43. Girlfriend
44. Boyfriend
45. Sidechick
46. Gay
47. Lesbianism
48. Hiv Aids
49. Corona virus
50. Cancer
51. Headache
52. Stomach ache
53. Your friends
54. Your enemies
55. Your uncle
56. Your brother
57. Your sister
58. Your mother
59. Your father
60. Too much knowledge
61. Your village people
62. Your place of birth
63. Evil arrow
64. God
65. Sin
65. Fake Pastor
66. Swimming pool
67. Car or vehicle
68. Domestic violent or accident
69. Tree
70. Sports( boxing, football wrestling)
71. Betting or Gambling
72. Gun or Revolver with loaded bullet
73. Bomb
74. War
75. Grenade
76. Argument
77. Street fight
78. Omo onile
79. Landlord
80. Tenant
81. Internet
82. Yahoo Yahoo
83. Phone
84. Caretaker
85. Nanny
86. Animals(dog,snake)
87. Maid
88. Wrong Church
89. Boko Haram
90. Bus conductor
91. Ashawo, prostitute
92. Armed Robbery
93. Bank robbery
94. Money laundering
95. Prison or inside jail
96. Death by hanging
97. Suicide
98. Jump from the highsky building
99. Charmed
100. Armlets

you may wish to add more.

Why are we in this world?

The purpose of man existence can be summarize by what the richest man that ever lived,King Solomon wrote in the last chapter of Ecclesiastes 12:13-14
" Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear God and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
For God shall bring every work into judgement, with every secret thing, whether it be good , or whether it be evil"


Lastly, the world is dangerous place to live, man is naturally selfish, it is dog eat dog. Nobody really likes you except God sent. Whether you like it or not, you must have something to protect yourself but the safest place to be is inside JESUS CHRIST.
Once you are inside JESUS and you obey his commandments, untimely death will be far from you except God decides.
God will take care of the rest.

Accepting JESUS does not mean you will not have problems but you are on a better platform of the light of God to conquer and prevail over your problem.

May God help us Amen.
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by God2man2again(m): 5:50am On Mar 27, 2022
This season calls for Divine protection.

After you have done the will of God you need the Divine protection of the Almighty God, these can be found in:

1. Psalm 91

2. Revelation 12:11 - Blood of Jesus

3. Fire of God

4. Angel of God

5. Presence of God

6. Wings and feathers of God

7. Proverbs 18:10-the name of the Lord
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by Lighthouse50: 6:02am On Mar 27, 2022
True Believers do know when death approaches and prepare their home
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by God2man2again(m): 11:29am On Mar 27, 2022
Apart from Divine protection, there are other things to be done, God has his own part to protect you, you also have your part to play to secure your lives.

1. Don't go to where you are not supposed to go, don't travel without doing the necessary spiritual preparation because the days are evil.

2. Don't eat anyhow,if at all, you have to eat, allow the Holyspirit to lead you and if you are about to eat, pray on it. There May be death in the pot.
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by sonmvayina(m): 11:38am On Mar 27, 2022
Death is just an illusion...

We are spiritual beings having a human experience, the spirit world or realm is the REAL World...
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by God2man2again(m): 12:59pm On Mar 27, 2022
sonmvayina:
Death is just an illusion...

We are spiritual beings having a human experience, the spirit world or realm is the REAL World...

What is an illusion? misconception, false belief, deception, fantasy, fallacy, error, castles in the air.

I may be tempted to agree with you because of the spiritual aspect you mentioned. We are spirit beings as you have mentioned but that does not mean that it is completely an illusion.
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by sonmvayina(m): 1:22pm On Mar 27, 2022
God2man2again:


What is an illusion? misconception, false belief, deception, fantasy, fallacy, error, castles in the air.

I may be tempted to agree with you because of the spiritual aspect you mentioned. We are spirit beings as you have mentioned but that does not mean that it is completely an illusion.


Death is not real...we are eternal beings. The body was just a vessel housing the spirit.

When we "die" we become born in the spirit, and when we die in the spirit we become born in the flesh. Life is a circle, death is just a point on it ..
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by God2man2again(m): 1:46pm On Mar 27, 2022
sonmvayina:


Death is not real...we are eternal beings. The body was just a vessel housing the spirit.

When we "die" we become born in the spirit, and when we die in the spirit we become born in the flesh. Life is a circle, death is just a point on it ..

Nothing like die in the spirit.
We are eternally spirit beings.
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by sonmvayina(m): 2:11pm On Mar 27, 2022
God2man2again:


Nothing like die in the spirit.
We are eternally spirit beings.

That is what I am saying...I am only using a word he can relate with..
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by Fidinno(m): 2:24pm On Mar 27, 2022
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by God2man2again(m): 3:34am On Mar 28, 2022
3. Don't follow your friends or just anybody to any church or a secret place for prayer. It could be a death trap. If you notice anything strange in your own church, ask questions, if you are not satisfied with answers, check your Bible, be the berean christian in Acts 17:10-11
Verse 11: These were more Noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."

If God has been showing you strange things about your own church in the dream, you better leave the Church and pray that God lead you to the right Church where Jesus is still dominating.

4. Never robbed God by not paying Tithe or offering thinking you are wiser than God your creator, humble yourself and obey God's commandments like a little child or a fool.

5. Never stopped praying and make sure you do it yourself before trusting anybody.

6. Don't get involved in business you know nothing about, it could be an invitation to disaster, always ask questions, if you are not satisfied with the answers, flee.

7. Avoid pornography, fornication, adultery and dressing by exposing the sensitive part of your body in the name of fashion.

8. Tattoo is another trap. Never be tempted to take Tattoo on your body, it could an invitation to bondage, it is not a fashion, it is a trap. Beware!

9. Be sensitive to your night dream, it could be a pointer to danger. God may be telling you something. If you see any negative sign in your dream, wake up and pray against it, reverse it or cancel it. You can organize a prayer meeting against bad dream.

10. Get knowledge about the Bible, read your Bible, it is difficult to deceive Bible readers.
Buy Bible tools, Concordance Bible, Dictionary Bible, Mathew Henry Bible, Dake's annotated Bible, Daily devotional, download some versions on your phone for immediate checking, get Parallel Bible, English, Yoruba, Igbo and other versions.

11. Buy Christian literature books, from seasoned men of God, Pastor Adeboye, Dr.Olukoya, Bishop oyedepo, W.F Kumuyi, and other men of God as directed by the Holy spirit.
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by God2man2again(m): 8:32pm On Mar 28, 2022
12. Fear : fear has the ability to invite untimely death quickly, when you begin to fear, you hand over the victory to the devil, you lose concentration, you lose power and confidence.
Fear has a torment, fear can put you in bondage, ordinary ant in the house , you begin to scream and you cannot sleep again.
When the driver is on high speed, you begin to breathe in and out. It is not a to time to palpitatate but to caution the driver, if he doesn't listen, then you focus on God.
When you have sickness and you begin to fear that so so person has died, and you begin to panic. You begin to believe in men than God.
Get some powerful scriptures and memorize it and talk to yourself, repeatedly by saying, I shall not fear, my heart shall not fear, I shall not die, I will make it. The sickness will not kill me, I will see the end of this sickness, it shall not see my end. I will not be disgraced. God will fight for me. I shall be highly favored.
No weapon formed against me shall prosper.
I am more than conqueror, I overcome the devil by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of my testimony. I shall not be disappointed. I will be the head and not the tail.
Begin to talk to yourself.
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Re: What Is Death? 100 Things That Can Kill by God2man2again(m): 5:17am On Mar 31, 2022
Social media factor is inimical. If you don't have the power to withstand evil arrows and Satanic attack, don't post the events of your life on social media: Facebook, WhatsApp and so on.
Why do you give the enemy bullet to gun you down?

Posting engagement, wedding and all other related stuff about your achievement on Facebook is inimical to your progress.

Who ask you?
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Maynman:

True.
Life is eternal, it has no beginning or end. No birth or death.

Doesn’t reality contradict this stance of yours?

If there is “no birth or death” what do you call the events labeled birth and death which occur in fact?

MaxInDHouse:


So when your wife or son die you need not feel bad after all it's just an illusion.

Yes...why should I?
They never went anywhere...

KnownUnknown:


Doesn’t reality contradict this stance of yours?

If there is “no birth or death” what do you call the events labeled birth and death which occur in fact?

I'm saying life itself has no birth or death. It's Eternal.

KnownUnknown:


Doesn’t reality contradict this stance of yours?

If there is “no birth or death” what do you call the events labeled birth and death which occur in fact?

Illusion..

Maynman:

I'm saying life itself has no birth or death. It's Eternal.

Based on what rationale?
What does it mean to be “eternal”?

sonmvayina:


Illusion..

Nonsense.

KnownUnknown:


Based on what rationale?
What does it mean to be “eternal”?

Eternal now, only this moment exist, tomorrow never comes.
The present is eternal.

Butterflyleo:


Yes life is all there is. Death does not exist in the way and manner many assume it to. Since we are a being in a shell known as a body, this shell expires (that is what death is in reality). An expiration of this physical shell.

The real being occupying the shell only has life in it since its source was also life. So what happens after we expire physically is that we live on either in heaven or in hell. Both places experience eternity of living. One for good and one for bad.

The bible says that after God formed man from the ground he put HIS BREATH IN HIM AND MAN BECAME A LIVING SOUL.

The breath of God which comes from him is only life giving and his focus is on our soul which is eternal and not on our body which is set to expire quickly.

correct

Butterflyleo:


The breath of God which comes from him is only life giving and his focus is on our soul which is eternal and not on our body which is set to expire quickly.

So is it god breathe that will go to hell or heaven?

Death is that which a Creator places upon His creation as a revocation of the life which the Creator gave it...

Or whatever condition of living the Creator had created for its creation.

Maynman:

Eternal now, only this moment exist, tomorrow never comes.
The present is eternal.

What?

KnownUnknown:


What?

The past is gone, the future is yet to come, only this present moment exist, the eternal now.

The difference between you and a freshly dead body is life, consciousness.
That life exactly is what you are, but life needs something (form) to be able to experience itself.

Maynman:

The past is gone, the future is yet to come, only this present moment exist, the eternal now.

The fleeting present is “eternal”?
Still not clear.
The past is gone by definition and the future is yet to come by definition. What are you saying?

Maynman:

The difference between you and a freshly dead body is life, consciousness.

What does this mean? After explaining that, pray tell the following:
What is the difference between me and long dead body?
What’s the difference between a person in a coma and a freshly dead body?

Maynman:

That life exactly is what you are, but life needs something (form) to be able to experience itself.

What?
What’s an example life without form?
Why does this life need form to experience itself?
Can a body experience itself without being alive?

MaxInDHouse:


So when your wife or son die you need not feel bad after all it's just an illusion.

This is the kind of answer that Jesus gave his opposers that the Bible says that his opposers did not even dare approach him again to test or question him
Very epic
Bwahahahahaha

KnownUnknown:


The fleeting present is “eternal”?
Still not clear.
The past is gone by definition and the future is yet to come by definition. What are you saying?

You are always in the present, it never ends. Moments to Moments.
Only This moment exist.

Time is always NOW.

KnownUnknown:



What does this mean? After explaining that, pray tell the following:
What is the difference between me and long dead body?
What’s the difference between a person in a coma and a freshly dead body?

The freshly dead body I used is because the body is still intact, dead is dead.

Is a person in a coma breathing?

KnownUnknown:


What?
What’s an example life without form?
Why does this life need form to experience itself?
Can a body experience itself without being alive?

Pure consciousness.
You need your sense organs to experience life.
Body does not experience, your mind does.

Maynman:

Pure consciousness.
You need your sense organs to experience life.
Body does not experience, your mind does.

U say mind experiences ,u also
say he needs body/sense organs,
to experience what u are yet 2 define....

......life.


guy

stop trying to explain what has no explanation

Maynman:

You are always in the present, it never ends. Moments to Moments.
Only This moment exist.

Time is always NOW.

off course

is always =now
was always=then
will always=later

time is always now

time was always then

and

time will always be later

HellVictorinho6:


U say mind experiences ,u also
say he needs body/sense organs,
to experience what u are yet 2 define....

......life.


guy

stop trying to explain what has no explanation

Will a dead person feel the pain of fire?
Will a person with life feel the pain of fire?

Why you think it's so?

HellVictorinho6:


off course

is always =now
was always=then
will always=later

time is always now

time was always then

and

time will always be later

Time is always in the NOW, the past is memories, the future is yet to come and will come come, only this present moment exist

Maynman:

Pure consciousness.

What is pure consciousness?

Maynman:

You need your sense organs to experience life.
Body does not experience, your mind does.

Isn’t the mind a function of the body?
Where do you see a mind without a body?

Maynman:

The freshly dead body I used is because the body is still intact, dead is dead.

So is death a real event or not?

Maynman:
Is a person in a coma breathing?

I suppose.

Maynman:

You are always in the present, it never ends.

So what past do you speak of if you are always in the present which never ends?

Maynman:

Moments to Moments.
Only This moment exist.

Which moment? The moment you posted or the moment I replied?

Maynman:

Time is always NOW.

So what is the future?