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datola:
Investors business owners like them because they bring results. Workers don't like them because they don't want stress.

You nailed it👏

Their English is very terrible, they speak English upside down.
if Indian tell u to go, its mean come.
if he tell u to come its mean go...
when u try to correct them, they will be anger...

Depends on the perspective of the person speaking.

Employers tend not to like them, but Business owners love them.

I'll speak based on my experience with them, as a business owner.

Several years ago, I had serious difficulties managing various businesses I had set up. The staff dealt with me. Forging of invoices, theft of inventory, inflation of contracts, there's nothing they didn't do.

The Nigerian workers were out to finish me.
Like they say, "where person dey work, na there e dey chop, hence the name, workchop (workshop)".

You sack and replace them, the new ones continue from where the old ones stopped. They will even improve their techniques of stealing so as not be caught like their predecessors.

After trying so many methods to reduce all this, from utilizing tech and automating several processes, to involving relatives, it came to my realization that the only way to stop all this was to run the businesses myself, to be "on ground" always, but that wasn't possible. So I planned to start shutting them down and to focus only on one. I told a friend who was also a businessman about my challenges and plans, hoping he would be able to purchase some of the assets I was hoping to sell from the shutdown businesses. He recommended I hire indian management. I wasn't keen at first, but finally decided to try it.

To put it shortly, I eventually got an Indian manager for one of the businesses and it worked like magic. Business began to be good. Profit began to come in. For the first time, I could be away and still be confident and relaxed that my business is in good hands. Apparently, the business troubles we had been having weren't because of "bad economy", it was because of "bad workers" who were out to build houses on my head.

Today, the businesses are growing from strength to strength. All key positions are occupied by indians. If I'm starting a new business today, all key positions go to indians by default.

I have recommended the "indian solution" to so many business people, at least 5 of which have adopted it this year alone, and it has been good stories since then. Not a single one of them has regretted the decision.

The simple truth is that the average Nigerian is corrupt and is a thief. Those who have not stolen have not done so simply because of lack of opportunity.

And that's why our country is like this, after all, the leadership is a representation of the citizenry. Nigerians are a bad people and have rightly given rise to bad leaders.

Below is a post I made few years ago about this same issue.

ultron12345:
I can relate very well with your second paragraph.

I run a manufacturing business and a trading business.
The biggest challenge in my manufacturing business is not power, or infrastructure, the biggest challenge is getting honest staff. Everyone we hire is appears to be on a mission to steal as much as possible. Inflated invoices, recording less than the actual number of units produced. The worst part of it all is that all the fraud we've uncovered is not done by a single person, it's usually many staff who collude with each other, from production, to sales, to finance, even top management. There was a year I overhauled management 3 times in a year. But I've found a solution sha, I now use Indian management. So competent, so honest and so straightforward. I thought they were expensive at first with all the visa fees, accommodation, house staff, but now that losses due to staff theft have been reduced to a minimum, and efficiency increased, the Indian management has turned out to be cheaper than the previous Nigerian management. Now, all sensitive positions involving money go to Indians. Nigerians are only allowed in non-sensitive positions. I used to criticize companies like Dangote Group that hire so many Indians when there are many unemployed Nigerians, but now, I understand their decision.

My biggest challenge in the trading business is the same, getting honest staff. The form of trading occurs in the open market, and involves staff having access to huge sums of money running into a few millions. I know how much I pay to security companies to provide escorts for the staff, not to prevent robbery, but to ensure that the staff go straight to the bank to deposit the money after the day's sales and not disappear with my money. This money spent on security companies is even enough to be declared as profit. We have to spend on CCTV, biometric scanners and other things that wouldn't not be needed if staff weren't looking for the slightest opportunity to steal.

It got so bad at a point that my main criteria for employing staff was no longer conpaetency but honesty. At least, competency and skills can be learnt, but once you're dishonest, you're dishonest.

We always complain of the economy and how they are no jobs. I know people abroad who would have loved to set up job creating businesses in Nigeria but they can't because they can't get any trustworthy person to run it.

I know people in Nigeria with so much money, they want to start factories and other job-creating businesses but they can't because they are occupied elsewhere and can't get any trustworthy person to run the business. So instead of investing in the real sector and creating jobs, they'll just buy treasury bills, while the thieves are shouting no jobs.

Many big businesses would have been born in Nigeria if we could engage in partnerships, but we cant because you can't trust anyone. This is one advantage the Indians and Lebanese have over us in Nigeria. They can pull resources together and do mega-business, unlike Nigerians that because only one person must do everything since we can't partner, end up with small, tiny businesses.

Start a poultry and they will be stealing your eggs. Some will even go
ahead to be killing the chickens so that they'll be allowed to take them home.

Start an entertainment/viewing/game center and they'll be pocketing
your money. On the days you're around at the business, the money
realized will be x10 of the money realized when you're not around.
Because they're eating your money.

Lease out a vehicle to a driver to use and watch as he'll finish you.

Start a restaurant, the same thing will happen. More than half of the
total food ingredients will end up in their personal kitchens.

Even ordinary provisions shop, they will find a way to steal.

You'll see them with that their evil, wicked saying "na where person dey work, na there e dey chop, na e make dem dey callam workchop/workshop"...... Just imagine, justifying theft at work.

And you'll see these people point their crooked fingers at politicians when they're not any different. I usually say the reason most Nigerians haven't stolen billions of government money, is simply lack of opportunity.

Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria.

mohlanforex:
Their English is very terrible, they speak English upside down.

if Indian tell u to go, its mean come.

if he tell u to come its mean go...

when u try to correct them, they will be anger...

Urs isn't any better.. it seems you have worked too long for them

Working with them presently and all I can say is that they overload you with work but the company get results

StPete:
It's individual difference though. Some are good, while some are outright demons leeching on people's blood


The bad ones are terrible racists, the good ones are quite likeable but then Nigeria has made us third class citizens in our own country. They pay themselves jumbo salaries and pay peanuts to Nigerian workers

You have said it all. They employ their people who don't know nothing and pay them millions with luxury apartments, while they pay the locals peanuts. The locals do the job while they get the glory.

Expecting them to like you is waste of time

There are not Investor is because low self esteem. They brainwashed our government that there are investing into one or two industries immediately such process is been approved by Government. They will go to Nigeria banks to seek for financial loan in millions to finance their project in Nigeria.

datola:
Investors business owners like them because they bring results. Workers don't like them because they don't want stress.

Meerahbel:
y?

They use workers like slaves... They are terrible people to work with .

Lolz, Indians are not good managers in the sense, they are loyal to service. You'll enjoy them as your employees not as your employer. It's in their blood.

Nasty set of people to work with. They believe in their head they are superior to blacks. They will always promote others Indians over you.

Well, very correct, but;


I have been working with olam for years and never regret for one second,,One of the best place to work as a staff.

Though, olam groups is multinational .

ChybuzzDD:
The entire Asians are like that.

They have a terrible work culture.

in a shithole country like nigeria

Kick those smelly bastards out of Nigeria!

Dialpad:
Want your business to grow in Nigeria, hire Indian manager.

I am talking from employer stand point not from emotional employee view.

You will get paid.... but they would demand results

do these Indians have sex? every time work work

ultron12345:
Depends on the perspective of the person speaking.

Employers tend not to like them, but Business owners love them.

I'll speak based on my experience with them, as a business owner.

Several years ago, I had serious difficulties managing various businesses I had set up. The staff dealt with me. Forging of invoices, theft of inventory, inflation of contracts, there's nothing they didn't do.

The Nigerian workers were out to finish me.
Like they say, "where person dey work, na there e dey chop, hence the name, workchop (workshop)".

You sack and replace them, the new ones continue from where the old ones stopped. They will even improve their techniques of stealing so as not be caught like their predecessors.

After trying so many methods to reduce all this, from utilizing tech and automating several processes, to involving relatives, it came to my realization that the only way to stop all this was to run the businesses myself, to be "on ground" always, but that wasn't possible. So I planned to start shutting them down and to focus only on one. I told a friend who was also a businessman about my challenges and plans, hoping he would be able to purchase some of the assets I was hoping to sell from the shutdown businesses. He recommended I hire indian management. I wasn't keen at first, but finally decided to try it.

To put it shortly, I eventually got an Indian manager for one of the businesses and it worked like magic. Business began to be good. Profit began to come in. For the first time, I could be away and still be confident and relaxed that my business is in good hands. Apparently, the business troubles we had been having weren't because of "bad economy", it was because of "bad workers" who were out to build houses on my head.

Today, the businesses are growing from strength to strength. All key positions are occupied by indians. If I'm starting a new business today, all key positions go to indians by default.

I have recommended the "indian solution" to so many business people, at least 5 of which have adopted it this year alone, and it has been good stories since then. Not a single one of them has regretted the decision.

The simple truth is that the average Nigerian is corrupt and is a thief. Those who have not stolen have not done so simply because of lack of opportunity.

And that's why our country is like this, after all, the leadership is a representation of the citizenry. Nigerians are a bad people and have rightly given rise to bad leaders.

Below is a post I made few years ago about this same issue.

When the religious leaders keeps telling them to pray for a destiny helper what do you expect would happen

They we say small work big money just imagine the nonsense.. I'll say it again and again, the problems started from the religious leaders who is always feeding it's congregation with false hope.

You no get work you dey expect alert no be JuJu be that(stealing)

Siberia01:


Garlic chewing flat asses

So nah all of them dey do this tin? my former boss can even speak Yoruba a bit but na oloriburuku these guys are just in our country to gather money and Bleep our women

I'm India, no holiday. You work work work like Rihanna

Dialpad:
Want your business to grow in Nigeria, hire Indian manager.

I am talking from employer stand point not from emotional employee view.

You will get paid.... but they would demand results

Hmmm

betshopagent:
I have worked with an Indian, Chinese and lebaneese. They are all terrible only that an Indian Is the worst among them. An Indian would overwork you, disrespect and would under under pay you. Most times an Indian still leech on your token of salary that the company pays it's Nigerian workers . In other parts of Nigeria, they are cautious abit when dealing with its workers but in LAGOS they just does anyhow because nobody questions them. They acts like they feeds you in Lagos. If you want to Enjoy your life try working with an European or An American. My best memory of working with an expacterate was with a Belgium national.

wow

The first contact I got from Indian company was to supply a sound bulldozer that wouldn't break down and that what they will pay per day is 140k, I will also be responsible for the feeding, accommodation and the payment of 10k daily to d operator.
So I went to Uyo and PH to do a cost survey and the cheapest was 150k which was beyond d contract cost.So I called the manager and explained to him that to raise to 170k so we could make something as a company, the response I got was "my company cannot pay beyond that ok" So we declined d job.

I dey Look for place to do internship in tech(front-end) with just a little pay.

My babe is Indian
They work and school 6 days per week.
They only take Saturdays off.
But they have so many holidays in India.

Most of them especially the elderly ones do not like black people at all, they may tolerate your presence but
You will know their heart and minds when you try to date or marry their daughter or sister or relatives.

Some young Indian girls have fetishes to try BBC channel but they know they can’t be with you without being disowned by their families so they’ll tell you just one night stand but they have never tasted anything like BBC sweet in their life’s so you will impress them easily if you have 6 or 7 inches.

The men especially stare at the girls who are with non Indian guys, they try all they can to convince the girl to leave you. Even while you are with your girl they’ll approach to ask her out and just try to cause trouble. But to be fair even Nigerian and African girls tried to break us up. They kept telling her ONLY negative things about Nigerian guys.

As far as working under them, they expect above average performance. They LOVE competition. They expect you to always perform and your spirits to be high. They assume you should enjoy working. Most of them in India attach self worth, too much value to money and skin colour as well as caste so it’s the same outside India maybe not as intense.

Basically they are just like us in thirdworldism
We also value the same things but replace skin colour and caste with tribe, regionalism or nationality.

Also they are the most nationalistic people I have ever met they keep praising their country and Modi, or respectfully Modiji sir, except for the punjabs aka Khalistani’s who quite a hand full are some of the most anti nationals I have ever met.
Just think of it as Biafrans to Nigerians.

ChybuzzDD:
The entire Asians are like that.

They have a terrible work culture.

With the terrible work culture, they have built successful and functioning societies.

Wetin we black Africans don do?

Working with them presently, but January I no dey do again, better make i be jobless than to continue working for those moffos

ultron12345:
Depends on the perspective of the person speaking.

Employers tend not to like them, but Business owners love them.

I'll speak based on my experience with them, as a business owner.

Several years ago, I had serious difficulties managing various businesses I had set up. The staff dealt with me. Forging of invoices, theft of inventory, inflation of contracts, there's nothing they didn't do.

The Nigerian workers were out to finish me.
Like they say, "where person dey work, na there e dey chop, hence the name, workchop (workshop)".

To put it shortly, I eventually got an Indian manager for one of the businesses and it worked like magic. Business began to be good. Profit began to come in. For the first time, I could be away and still be confident and relaxed that my business is in good hands. Apparently, the business troubles we had been having weren't because of "bad economy", it was because of "bad workers" who were out to build houses on my head.

I read the post you quoted some weeks back and as someone who had managed the family's business, I knew competency wasn't really the issue, but honesty. So, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I don't know how the Indians do it, but I am very open to employing them to run everything. Even if na to give them a stake in the company, no problem.

I just quit from an Indian boss, the over use you a if they own you.

No off days, no HMO, no overtime pay, no promotion, no employment letter.

UPDATE

Nigerian Bosses are just as bad, even worse in some cases!

BlackyOne:
I just quit from an Indian boss, the over use you a if they own you.

No off days, no HMO, no overtime pay, no promotion, no employment letter

you have said it all, imagine paying #150 per hour for overtime..

the bold step I will make this year 2024 is to leave there, enough is enough..

Those guys are eveeel.. must heavily under pay you.. Slave masters in short.tueeeeh

If Indians can get you to work for free they would. Very racist managers. Funny enough they run up to half FMCGs in the country

I'm currently working in an Indian owned organization and i will say it with my full chest that they are the worst set of people to work with.

I got another offer from another Indian owned company and turned it down asap