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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by codemaniacs: 5:06am On Dec 11, 2023
Ikaeniyan0:
Ikwerres are not close to the Atlantic ocean, stop disgracing yourself with ignorant comments m

so where is Wike from and how did Wike an igbo man become the governor of Rivers State.

Another Igbo man is also the governor of Delta state which already has 2 seaports and also close to the atlantic..

you are very ignorant and you're accusing me of ignorance.

you have a mental problem
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Irony1: 5:06am On Dec 11, 2023
codemaniacs:


your state civil service made up of 100% igbos so what civil service are you complaining about...

Federal civil service is has every tribe there because every state has their quota.

so stop saying rubbish and getting upset over your own ignorance.

Oga stop being dense can you tell yourself the truth that all tribes are fairly represented in the civil service? Can you swear that it is true. I hate people that oove to gaslight like you lots.
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by codemaniacs: 5:09am On Dec 11, 2023
Irony1:


Oga stop being dense can you tell yourself the truth that all tribes are fairly represented in the civil service? Can you swear that it is true. I hate people that oove to gaslight like you lots.

You are the one trying to gaslight and emotional blackmail non-igbos and foreigners into believing that igbos are marginalized when they are no where near been marginalized.

everyone is represented in the Federal Civil Service..

what do you want tribes that don't have states to themselves to say..

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Irony1: 5:15am On Dec 11, 2023
codemaniacs:


You are the one trying to gaslight and emotional blackmail non-igbos and foreigners into believing that igbos are marginalized when they are no where near been marginalized.

everyone is represented in the Federal Civil Service..

what do you want tribes that don't have states to themselves to say..

Oga I have asked that can you swear that the representation is fair and equal in federal civil service? You have been dancing everywhere, look bros just shut up and run along abeg.
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Ikaeniyan0: 5:23am On Dec 11, 2023
codemaniacs:


so where is Wike from and how did Wike an igbo man become the governor of Rivers State.

Another Igbo man is also the governor of Delta state which already has 2 seaports and also close to the atlantic..

you are very ignorant and you're accusing me of ignorance.

you have a mental problem
Did you go through my comment or you're just so shallow to understand my comment??

You said Ikwerres are close to the atlantic ocean and I said NO, Ikwerres are not close to the Atlantic ocean.

An urhobo man is the governor of Delta state and where the delta port is located is in warri, and warri is not part of Igbo land. Delta have just one seaport.

And Ikwerres are not Igbo. Wike made it clear.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by georgeakins: 5:38am On Dec 11, 2023
Kafirbigot:
They will say he is IPOB..ESN...OBIDIENT...

Just watch
cool

The only solution is to let Ibos go and form their country.

They are a nuisance since independence

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by georgeakins: 5:41am On Dec 11, 2023
Generalmystic:
You see, when oyibo without a form of interest or emotional attachment to Nigeria speaks, you can't help but agree with him.

I'm not from SE, but that region has been so neglected.


They only solution is to let Ibos go and form their biafra.
Was it neglect that made them plan the Ibo coup of January 1966.

Ibos are the worst human species I have ever seen.

Secession clause should be inserted in the constitution. The earlier it is done, the better.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by georgeakins: 5:46am On Dec 11, 2023
saintkel:
they will come for ur head soon.....

The earlier they realise that ibos cannot live with other ethnic groups in peace, the better.
Ibos are the worst human species I have ever seen.

Was it neglect that made ibos plan the ibo coup of Jan 1966 that plunged Nigeria into a needless civil war?
Ibos should be allowed to govern themselves.
Give them their biafra. Ibos are a nuisance

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by seguno2: 5:48am On Dec 11, 2023
Gerrard59:

Not everyone got £20. It was for those who could provide enough evidence to prove they were worthy of it. How is that possible when war has rendered homes, documents and assets to bare ashes?

Igbos are the only ones who have been disadvantaged by a major war in Nigeria. Second would be ethnic minorities in the Niger Delta as it concerns oil spillage on their lands. Third would be Northern Christians who have been butchered left, right and centre over 50 years.

Why do Igbos fail to blackmail other Nigerians for the civil war atrocities, in the same way that Jews do for Holocaust and Rwandan Tutsis do for the 1994 genocide? What makes them not focus their efforts on this
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by SmartyPants(m): 5:50am On Dec 11, 2023
Irony1:


The issue is because the population that make up the Lagos- Ibadan axis is made up of people from all over Nigeria and that was because of how skewed the development was done. It was not like that in the 60s the trad exports from the Eastern region was high.the Eastern region had a faster development indices than any other region then.

Well, I don't know too much about the 60s but the reality is that as of today the Lagos - Ibadan axis is probably by far the largest population centre in Nigeria today, and with good spending power! Is this a bad thing?

It is not as though it was designed this way to spite the Igbos. In fact, the Igbos have taken advantage of this to establish large trading networks. So I think, really, there is no marginalization in the sense that everyone enjoys the fruit of Lagos - Ibadan commercial viability.

Was there any marginalisation involved in how this viability came about? I don't think so at all. Historically, Lagos has always been a nerve centre because of its strategic location, leading both the Portuguese and the British, and even the Benins before them to make Lagos their central port and for the British, their Nigerian colonial capital. Lagos then developed naturally as a capital city, the same way Abuja is doing. None of this was done to spite anybody.

So when you look at the situation of Lagos as a major population centre you should understand that it was already a major hub long before independence, with considerable colonial resources already devoted to it. Naturally, those Nigerians seeking to make a success of themselves gravitated towards the colonial centre, which then became the first national capital. What that meant was that the best and brightest of Nigerians were drawn to Lagos leading to further innovation and development such as in the growth of the indigenous financial sector.

Similarly, before you talk about establishing a seaport in the East, you have to first ensure that it will be economically viable either for import or for export. If it is for import as is done in Lagos, then the question is, where is the population?

Secondly, what will be the economic impact of situating a seaport in Igboland as of today, when Igboland is already a hub of manufacturing but still in its growth phase? The significance of Igbo industries being in a growth phase is that:

1. If you say you want to increase imports without first increasing population, then you're saying you want to drown those growing industries

2. If you say you want to increase exports, then you are saying you want to compete in a global market that you are not yet ready for.

The conditions for a seaport are simply not there - not economically, not geographically, and even in terms of security.

We are focusing on the wrong things as a nation out of greed and rivalry.

As I've said so many times, what we should be doing is harnessing our respective competitive advantages, not competing. Igbos are good at manufacturing and trade - why not manufacture and distribute to the rest of Nigeria? A seaport will not give you any advantages at this time, and not having one is not evidence of marginalization!

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by georgeakins: 5:51am On Dec 11, 2023
OkpaNsukkaisBae:
APC & Buhari will rather build rail line from Kano to Maradi Niger Republic than to develop the SE.

They should give Ibos their biafra.

Was it neglect that made ibos plan the coup of Jan 1966?
Ibos are naturally evil and greedy.

Let them go and govern themselves in their cursed land.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by seguno2: 5:52am On Dec 11, 2023
georgeakins:

The earlier they realise that ibos cannot live with other ethnic groups in peace, the better.
Ibos are the worst human species I have ever seen.

Was it neglect that made ibos plan the ibo coup of Jan 1966 that plunged Nigeria into a needless civil war?
Ibos should be allowed to govern themselves.
Give them their biafra. Ibos are a nuisance

Were Igbos responsible for the political crisis in the Western region that led to Awolowo’s imprisonment, Wẹtiẹ etc?

Were all the 5 Majors responsible for the January 1966 coup all Igbos

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by seguno2: 5:54am On Dec 11, 2023
georgeakins:
They should give Ibos their biafra.

Was it neglect that made ibos plan the coup of Jan 1966?
Ibos are naturally evil and greedy.

Let them go and govern themselves in their cursed land.

As a Nigerian, are you not part of the THEY?

How much work have you done, and are continuing to do to get other Nigerians like yourself, to give Igbos their Biafra

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by georgeakins: 5:54am On Dec 11, 2023
ottersberger:


Palestinians are not crazy people. Something made Hamas go out on October 7th and attack Israelis. It is in Nigeria today for Igbo, as it is for Palestine because of Israeli oppression.

Let's hope someone will come along to open the pressure valve soon enough. Otherwise, our October 7 in Nigeria is not too far away.

Ibos should continue fighting for their biafra.

I will be the happiest person the day they are allowed to go and form their country.
Ibos are terrible people and cannot live in peace with others.

They laid the foundation for the troubles we are facing in Nigeria today.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by SmartyPants(m): 5:56am On Dec 11, 2023
pansophist:
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King

The marginalisation, disenfrenchisement and political alienation of the igbos will always bring chaos to Nigeria. You cant have peace and progress without the full integration of everyone, it is just against natural law.

Lets see if they will blame the white man, because the igbos have been saying this for years, fought a civil war because of it, but they all turned a blind eye.


I really want to understand why Igbos feel marginalized. The Igbos fought in 1967 because they were being killed not because they were being marginalised - in fact, at that time, the Igbos dominated the civil service and officer corps of the army. So there seems to be a disconnect in your reasoning.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by MasterTeeUSA: 5:56am On Dec 11, 2023
While the neglect part is true, they have no one to blame but their own leaders. Can someone answer the following questions?

Did SE get their share of allocations from the Federal Govt year in year out?
Which year or years were they denied allocations?
Do they feel the funds they got were less than what they should be getting?
Did the Federal Govt refuse or fail to do any projects in the SE while at the same time did it in other regions?

I have friends from South East, and even they agree that their Govs and Elders have drained their region. Look for the wealthiest past Govs with houses abroad for children...you will find them. They want the biggest houses everywhere at the expense of their own people.

When we scream marginalization, we are made to believe its US against THEM when it is actually THEM against THEM. There was a time the Govt spoke about concession of the port...they didnt really want that. Under Buhari, they got the Niger Bridge 2...arguably the largest project during Buhari's regime. The Govt wanted to do more...but for insecurity...caused by who? them vs them. Please I refuse to bring the coolaid.

White men do not have special brains or knowledge. Read and LEARN. You can think too. By the way, someone needs to tell them the truth...they are wrong, and their leaders and elders teach them to blame and hate the Govt, so they wont focus on their own lootings.



Supremos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv-b-yHFRQ?si=rkGVzetolrYAIwTb


ARISE TV




- Says; Igbos in Nigeria, 73% says sometimes or always, are treated unfairly by the government.

- Says; This is the highest rate of any ethnic group surveyed in Africa.

- Says; In their (Igbo) view, they are sometimes always being treated unfairly by the government.

- Says; Igbos feel disconnect from the government and that needs to be addressed.

- Says; The grievance is that you have a very product region that's exporting not just to Nigeria, but internationally. You have I think, Imo and Anambra, are number 4 and 6 for GDP in Nigeria in 2021, which was a very violent Year, even in the midst of the violence, three of the five South East states were in the top 12 for GDP per Capita, yet there's no Seaport, the bridges are not good, the roads are not good.

- Says; The unrest is an infrastructural thing though with political lenses.


Many more.....



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https://www.iri.org/who-we-are/iri-experts/santiago-stocker/

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by georgeakins: 5:57am On Dec 11, 2023
Armaggedon:
The time for that has passed.
Everyone waits for referendum.

Ibos must be allowed to go and form their biafra.
They have constituted enough nuisance to the nation since Jan 1966.

The evil and greedy tribe must be allowed to go

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by georgeakins: 6:00am On Dec 11, 2023
pansophist:
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King

The marginalisation, disenfrenchisement and political alienation of the igbos will always bring chaos to Nigeria. You cant have peace and progress without the full integration of everyone, it is just against natural law.

Lets see if they will blame the white man, because the igbos have been saying this for years, fought a civil war because of it, but they all turned a blind eye.



Ibos are naturally evil and greedy.
Was it neglect that made them plan the coup of Jan 1966?

Ibos should be given their biafra as quickly as possible.
They're a nuisance everywhere

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by seguno2: 6:00am On Dec 11, 2023
SmartyPants:
Similarly, before you talk about establishing a seaport in the East, you have to first ensure that it will be economically viable either for import or for export. If it is for import as is done in Lagos, then the question is, where is the population?

Secondly, what will be the economic impact of situating a seaport in Igboland as of today, when Igboland is already a hub of manufacturing but still in its growth phase? The significance of Igbo industries being in a growth phase is that:!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this issue.

Please note that the five Igbo states of the south east are landlocked. As a result they cannot have a SEAport. They can however have a RIVER port

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by SmartyPants(m): 6:02am On Dec 11, 2023
seguno2:


Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this issue.

Please note that the five Igbo states of the south east are landlocked. As a result they cannot have a SEAport. They can however have a RIVER port

Yes, I understand that. I made reference to Seaport for the purpose of argument only - that is to say, even if we agree that it is possible to have a seaport in the east, it is not viable on other grounds.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by georgeakins: 6:03am On Dec 11, 2023
Sultty:
this is pragmatic approach sure to reduce the chaos in the eastern part. And as that ekpa guy, his beans will soon done #mumu man

Ibos must be allowed to form their biafra.
They are naturally evil and greedy, so there's no way they can live in peace with others.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by georgeakins: 6:05am On Dec 11, 2023
SmartyPants:


Yes, I understand that. I made reference to Seaport for the purpose of argument only - that is to say, even if we agree that it is possible to have a seaport in the east, it is not viable on other grounds.

The only solution is for the secession clause to be inserted in the constitution.
Ibos must be freed to go and form their country.

Ibos are a nuisance to others.
They have caused enough problems for the nation.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by SmartyPants(m): 6:10am On Dec 11, 2023
georgeakins:


The only solution is for the secession clause to be inserted in the constitution.
Ibos must be freed to go and form their country.

I agree on secession but there is a need for understanding here. What problems do you think the Igbos in particular have caused the country?
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by numericalguy(m): 6:11am On Dec 11, 2023
Generalmystic:
You see, when oyibo without a form of interest or emotional attachment to Nigeria speaks, you can't help but agree with him.

I'm not from SE, but that region has been so neglected.


What has he to say about the unfair treatment government has been giving to Fulanis, Tivs, Jukuns, Beroms, Hausas, Ijaws, Kanuris, etc

The government is not treating any tribe or region fairly. The problem here is that Igbos believe they are special and should get all the perks in the country.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by numericalguy(m): 6:18am On Dec 11, 2023
pansophist:
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King

The marginalisation, disenfrenchisement and political alienation of the igbos will always bring chaos to Nigeria. You cant have peace and progress without the full integration of everyone, it is just against natural law.

Lets see if they will blame the white man, because the igbos have been saying this for years, fought a civil war because of it, but they all turned a blind eye.



Because he is white doesn't put him above being criticized if he was wrong in his analysis. After all, he never spoke about the injustice being metted to other Nigerians like the Fulanis, Ijaws, Gwaris, Hausas, Tivs, Itshekiris, Kanuris. Beroms, etc

The government is treating everyone badly irrespective of tribe or region ut the Igbos believe they are special and should be given all the perks in Nigeria.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Unrated900(m): 6:19am On Dec 11, 2023
You are right I don't know why sE is ignored in all ways.
The only project going on in SE is been carried out by individual
Plssss tinubu wise up sir and safe
SE from collapsing.



Generalmystic:
You see, when oyibo without a form of interest or emotional attachment to Nigeria speaks, you can't help but agree with him.

I'm not from SE, but that region has been so neglected.

Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by johnjose68: 6:20am On Dec 11, 2023
Supremos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv-b-yHFRQ?si=rkGVzetolrYAIwTb


ARISE TV




- Says; Igbos in Nigeria, 73% says sometimes or always, are treated unfairly by the government.

- Says; This is the highest rate of any ethnic group surveyed in Africa.

- Says; In their (Igbo) view, they are sometimes always being treated unfairly by the government.

- Says; Igbos feel disconnect from the government and that needs to be addressed.

- Says; The grievance is that you have a very product region that's exporting not just to Nigeria, but internationally. You have I think, Imo and Anambra, are number 4 and 6 for GDP in Nigeria in 2021, which was a very violent Year, even in the midst of the violence, three of the five South East states were in the top 12 for GDP per Capita, yet there's no Seaport, the bridges are not good, the roads are not good.

- Says; The unrest is an infrastructural thing though with political lenses.


Many more.....



-

-

https://www.iri.org/who-we-are/iri-experts/santiago-stocker/

One of the eluupees grin grin

Did I hear the i.pobs export products? Which products? Fan yogo? Or prostitutions?

Dey play ▶️ eluupeeeism is a disease 🦟

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by johnjose68: 6:24am On Dec 11, 2023
Unrated900:
You are right I don't know why sE is ignored in all ways.
The only project going on in SE is been carried out by individual
Plssss tinubu wise up sir and safe
SE from collapsing.




You want to know:

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey sit or sleep at home

Sebi na Tinubu say make Una stage the first coup

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey hate every other tribe

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey stupid politically

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey disrespect your host wherever you go

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey fake every thing possible, including baby foods...haba

Sebi na Tinubu say make una work against putting referendum in our constitution because everything favored you lot then

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey chest beat for everywhere, including your online country

Una never see shumting.

By the time Shetima finish with you after 2031 grin

Dey play ▶️

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Unrated900(m): 6:32am On Dec 11, 2023
Na WA oooo you cannot even make a complete comprehensive messages.
U kept on making repetitions.
Shebi
Shebi
Shebi
Shebi.
This yoluba people self ennnn
Na WA ooooo
Shebi
Shebi
Shebi






johnjose68:


You want to know:

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey sit or sleep at home

Sebi na Tinubu say make Una stage the first coup

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey hate every other tribe

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey stupid politically

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey disrespect your host wherever you go

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey fake every thing possible, including baby foods...haba

Sebi na Tinubu say make una work against putting referendum in our constitution because everything favored you lot then

Sebi na Tinubu say make una dey chest beat for everywhere, including your online country

Una never see shumting.

By the time Shetima finish with you after 2031 grin

Dey play ▶️
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by officerfudo: 6:34am On Dec 11, 2023
That part of the country since the return of democracy has governors, senators and House of Representatives members that have failed woefully to help their lives, instead of holding their leaders accountable, they will be spewing nonsense
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by QueenDima47(f): 6:35am On Dec 11, 2023
Panda7:
didn't he say igbo's have states in nigeria. Igbos are always there fighting yoruba in yoruba state. are igbo's and yoruba from the same region?
Your contribution is off point. Why are you always controversial?

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