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Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:39am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills: Guy Adam and Eve were PERFECT their memory card is well over whatever you can imagine unlike your IMPERFECT little child that may forget what you told him. For your information God didn't tell Eve directly it was Adam who passed on the warning to her that's why Satan targeted Eve yet she still quote God as if she was present when the warning was given to Adam. So the argument that they don't know what is GOOD and BAD literally speaking is out of it they know therefore what we read there has spiritual meaning not just literal as most readers think! 1 Like |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:41am On Dec 11, 2023 |
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Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by Kobojunkiee: 8:41am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills:The verse does not in fact state that Adam and Eve had no knowledge of good and evil as you formerly claimed. This can't be true because in Genesis 2, God is revealed to have given Adam( Eve included) His Law which defines for them what is good and what is evil --- God's Law is the definition of that which is disobedience(sin/evil) and that which is obedience. Rather, what the verse hints at is that after eating the fruit in disobedience(sin) , Adam and Eve had acquired knowledge of good and evil( Law) on par with that which God (and His audience) alone were previously privvy to. Most likely be way of a receiving details of a different Law from the one they had originally been subject to, of course without God's permission. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:42am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills: You're an hypocrite that's what you should take if you want to continue chatting with me and as for the post with my signature it's evident that you haven't known me because most people on this forum already know that it's my former account on Nairaland! 1 Like |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 8:44am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You are creating problems for yourself by not accepting the word of God. God unlike you is not a confusionist. Again, good and evil are spiritual enough. Good and evil don't have other meanings. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 8:47am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Now you are confessing you have double accounts. Do you know it's against the rules of the forum. You seem to be a very dubious character. Why would you need to operate with 2 accounts. There is something very spooky about you. And yes I never you had multiple accounts. 1 Like |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:49am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills: That's your own understanding shey? Oya go out there and use it to teach anyone who is ready to learn from you, as for me and my global family we know that Adam and Eve knew what is GOOD and BAD literally speaking that's why our God punished them otherwise there's no justification for such heavy punishment if they don't know what they did is BAD. 1 Like |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 8:50am On Dec 11, 2023 |
Kobojunkiee: Now you clearly need your English teacher. The verse in no way was comparing the level of their knowledge to that of God it only stated that they now have the knowledge of Good and evil. We shouldn't be having the argument on the religion forum we should be discussing this on the education forum because it's an English problem that you have. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:52am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills:Funny hypocrite! So having multiple accounts on Nairaland is a rule from God or the moderators? Guy you can't set standards for me so stick to your hypocrisy if you can't be liberal with everyone! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 8:54am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: What you are you family know is false made up guesswork. No single verse in the bible says that Adam and Eve had knowledge of good and evil so where are you and your family getting your falsehoods from. When I punish my baby, it's not because he knows good and bad, it's because I want him to learn |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by Kobojunkiee: 8:54am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills:Again, The important thing here is the verse says absolutely nothing of what you claimed. You agreeing or not agreeing with everything else I said is another issue entirely and really doesn't matter. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:59am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills:That's why i said you should go out there and make use of your understanding to preach as Jesus commanded no wahala! tctrills:You just like to worry yourself over nothing! Go out there and use your understanding of the scriptures to make disciples for your God we are doing our own and we're OK with the understanding that Adam and Eve do know what is GOOD and BAD literally speaking. We aren't forcing our understanding on you so make use of what you think you know. Period! |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 8:59am On Dec 11, 2023 |
Kobojunkiee:As I said this is no longer a scripture problem but an English issue. You have problems with your comprehending. Now let's break it down so you may understand. Phase 1. Behold, the man is become as one of us. Question, in what way had man become like God? Phase 2. to know good and evil So what made man become like God? Knowing good and evil. It doesn't get easier than this. Don't complicate your life. 1 Like |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 9:02am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Now this is out of the topic. God has explained himself but you wake up to create new meanings to his words. Meanings that are not scriptural and then you come out here to argue them with no evidence. You believe I am wrong yet you can't point to any scripture that is in line with what you say. That's not how it works. Does any verse in the bible state that good and evil has a different spiritual meaning? |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:07am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills:Present the WORKS of your faith nah! James 2:18-26 I have told you times without number that the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 is what we are working to achieve in our gathering and so far so good over 8 million people from different geographical locations on this planet have been putting it to good use in fact if 80% of the world's population are members of my organization wars will cease globally and food will be abundant everywhere. So present the WORKS of your own faith instead of worrying yourself about my own! |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by cornelboy(f): 9:09am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Is his three year old kid same as Adam lol? |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 9:10am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:As usual you run away from topic. If you can create new meanings for good and evil then it's not above you to read false meanings to Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 These verses were not about a false organization. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by cornelboy(f): 9:12am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Common sense is not common for some people. He's just here to argue meaninglessly. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:29am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills: There's no reason to continue arguing on words {2Corinthians 3:6 } that you can't apply for others to learn {1Timothy 6:4} people who have learned how to apply what they're learning formed an organization {Isaiah 2:2-4} i know it's killing you but take heart that's what it means to have accurate knowledge of God's {Romans 10:2-3} word not just reading without understanding! 2Timothy 3:7 |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:32am On Dec 11, 2023 |
cornelboy:I'm not bothered about his unreasonableness but if he wants to quote me he shouldn't just quote to argue there must be people applying what he wants to say we can all learn from the practical application not just arguing when each person has his or her own opinion without any practical application for others to see! Matthew 5:14:16 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 9:44am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: You are a funny guy. You came here to talk about Adam and Eve but the moment I show you the foolishness in your believes you start to deflect. Now I have asked you to present a verse that says Adam and Eve had knowledge of good and evil you qouted about 5 passages but none about the topic. Doesn't this tell you that something is wrong with your believes. I can tell that you are not an idiot, you are a bit intelligent so don't pretend you don't see that your position is not scriptural. I understand you feel more comfortable when we deflect from the issues and make it personal and emotional but we are both men. Let's stick to issues. Let's stick to what the bible says about Adam and Eve and not what the JW says. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 9:48am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:Secondly let me give you a personal advice. Please delete your multiple accounts and keep just one. It's ok if you keep to the rules and stop confusing us with your multiple personalities. You are here to market your organization, having multiple forum accounts is very dubious. You don't want to be a dubious character. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:53am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills: Jesus said to his disciples: “You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens" Matthew 5:14-16 If you can't present any group of people who are fulfilling this prophecy today your argument makes no sense. Are you saying Jesus is talking about individuals found in different religions or one organization that people globally can learn from? So FOOLISHNESS starts when you're quoting words but can't present an ORGANIZED people applying what you're saying. If your understanding is that Adam and Eve knows GOOD and BAD literally speaking then what exactly is the reason for their punishment? Ọmọ you're not intelligent to that level that's why most of you turn to atheism later when you can't convince atheists that the book makes sense. Someone doesn't know what is GOOD and BAD yet he is being punished greatly for doing what is WRONG. How does that even sound to you? |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:54am On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills: Ọmọ that's your own personal opinion about me so keep it to yourself! |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 10:43am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:It's not an opinion. It's clearly written in the Nairaland policy. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 10:46am On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse:So not you agree that Jesus called his disciples the light of the world. Now Jesus Christ did not tell his disciples to present an organization when preaching the gospel. They were to preach Christ not JW . We are the light not JW. Hope you get it now |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by Aemmyjah(m): 12:06pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
Dtruthspeaker: Why then did Eve told the serpent that God said they should not even touch the fruit else they would die Why did they go and hide hearing God was coming? Is disobedience not an evil thing? Sometimes you Really need to think twice |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by Aemmyjah(m): 12:07pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: That guy is not worth your time Lwt him argue blindly |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by Aemmyjah(m): 12:07pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
tctrills: And God punished them for doing what they did not know? |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 12:16pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Good point but isn't that how we all learn. As kids we don't know right and wrong but our parents punish us when we ignore their teachings. My 3 years old son hit his friend and refused to apologize so I got him to stay in his room. I know he is too young to understand but the punishment would help him to learn. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by tctrills: 12:17pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah:Team MaxinDHouse. |
Re: Adam And Eve Couldn't Have Sinned If They Had No Knowledge Of Good And Evil. by Dtruthspeaker: 12:22pm On Dec 11, 2023 |
Aemmyjah: Don't emphasize touch. She was not charged for touching. So that was her simply giving Satan the answer to his probe. Aemmyjah: Off Point! This was after they now knew "knowing good and evil". Aemmyjah: If you had thought well you would know not to ask me for I was born into the knowing of good and evil world and not their first world where they did not know good or evil. So nothing for you here. |
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