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Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by grandstar(m): 8:57pm On Dec 16, 2023
SensualMan:
Funny how 80% of those Japaa'ing as u guys term it in Nigeria are all yoruba people grin

On the other hand, this Bola mandate seems to be favouring the Igbos and every Igbo man is cashing out, spending money like water in the Bola Administration.

My question is: Does it mean this Administration is not favouring the yoruba clownish tribe?

Has Bola turned his back on his people?

How come the people that were supposed to be taught severe lessons are the head teachers now?

Questions wey no geti answer.
My friend, the only politics some of you understand is tribe. What research have you done that portrays 80% of those travelling out are Yorubas? It is most likely pure fiction.

First and foremost, if Yorubas are leaving in droves, it is because the economy is in tatters and it will take a while to get the economy in good shape again-probably about 3 years. It might therefore take about 4 years for the exodus to stop.

Igbos are more entrepreneurial than the Yorubas. The Yoruba favour education and that is why they have an edge in the civil service and even the multinational oil companies. That is why they are more likely to seek greener pastures abroad than the Igbos. There are twice as many Yorubas in America for instance than Igbos.

Secondly, are Igbos really doing better than the Yorubas presently? Give us your stats. It is not a bad thing if they are doing better. I, however, prefer to focus on facts than on fiction. Everyone one is feeling the pains of austerity measures.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by spiceadole(f): 8:59pm On Dec 16, 2023
Jewessgratitud3:
Soft life to hard life.

I guess when he got there and saw the pile of bills staring him in the face he had no choice but to grab the next available job.

If you are gainfully employed in naija, you don't need to japa. Japa is for someone who has no hope of ever getting a job in Nigeria. He'll appreciate any kind of job he finds there.
Yes.. People like medical doctors.
My life became meaningful after I left Nigeria.
Started residency programme without paying or knowing anybody.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by MSN1(m):
Gerrard59:
Does that apply to McKinsey's consultants in Nigeria? Does a skyscraper cleaner in the UK have a higher standard of living than someone working with KPMG Nigeria?

Do you know what it is to be a bank manager? Permanent staff o, not contract staff.
How do you guys do your comparism?.
what is the percentage of pipo working in your Mc kinsey whatever?
U for talk NNPC or SHEVRON make i know say u sabi compare, because u don't know the meaning of hi

Bro. a bank manager is a boy to casual workers abroad.
Or are u using the eye of Fraudulent managers, balling on pipos money?.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by ehissi(m): 9:02pm On Dec 16, 2023
Winnin009:
How is making 23k pounds a year worse than making 500k a month? You do know that one translates to over 20m Naira annually while the other is 6m annually. Lol.

Please, kindly tell us how it’s better? Ohhhh because he’s inside AC and a bunch of loser bankers call him sir?! He should forgo 14m and access to the best facilities life has to offer because of what? Your ego?
This is the problem with some Nigerians, you assess ones income overseas based on the value of the money in your own country.

Is he living in Nigeria or living in the UK? Will he spend his income based on the cost of living in Nigeria in Naira or the cost of living in the UK in British pounds?

If I want to follow your argument in reverse, inside that same UK so, to buy raw akpu (Fufu) whey no big reach anywhere, is £2, which is #3,130 compared to #100 in Nigeria, e make sense abi?

£23,000 a year is just £1,917 pounds a month, how much is food, how much is house rent, furniture, fittings and electronics? How much is phone and phone bills? Car note and fuel? TV license? Gas for cooking and heat in winter? Clothes nko? NHS/Health care cost nko?


Based on current income tax system, personal allowance (which is annual income that isnt subject to any income tax) is set at a threshhold of £12,570. Anything above this to £50,270, the excess is subject to a 20% deductible income tax.

So by simple maths
£23,000 - £12,570 = £10,430.

20% of £10,430 is £2,086, so his annual income tax out of that £23,000 a year is £2,086. Which means his annual income after they deduct income tax is £20,914. That is £1,742 a month......

We have not deducted NHS and other deductible taxes from that £1,742, we haven't touched on your personal bills and utilities......

Anybody, earning £1,917 monthly before taxes is considered low income, anybody that earns £1,917 monthly before taxes that supports a family is considered poor in the UK!!

At #6,000,000 a year in Nigeria Sir, you are not poor. If they paid you that #6,000,000 here in a year, you are more than capable to live a comfortable life, dress well, buy a good used car, raise a family, send your kids to reasonably good schools and if you manage money well, build a house in one remote area to retire to as a pensioneer.

Try and achieve the same feat in the UK on £23,000 a year and see whether you no go jam rock!
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by lilyheaven: 9:09pm On Dec 16, 2023
You are absolutely right,
I remember how many years I searched for job 😢
I registered for Ielt, I just wanted to leave this country, since I got a job, I forgot the Ietls, though I learnt a lot, but I don’t feel like leaving again 😀
Jewessgratitud3:
Soft life to hard life.

I guess when he got there and saw the pile of bills staring him in the face he had no choice but to grab the next available job.

If you are gainfully employed in naija, you don't need to japa. Japa is for someone who has no hope of ever getting a job in Nigeria. He'll appreciate any kind of job he finds there.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by ehissi(m): 9:11pm On Dec 16, 2023
erico2k2:
There is another basic Economic fact you guys do not know, you basic salary those specify the salary you take home, I will take myself as an Example cos I am a hands on worker. Now I earn as much as my basic salary in overtime and off duties work cos we do not call it over time we call it premium pay ie x2 or x3 our basic pay per Hour. There is a lot you guys do not know about the west so It would be in your own interest to allow those who live i n the west to explain stuff to you guys to increase your KnowledgeSet is not an argument but basic truth, There is a lot you guys do now know but Im sure o nce you ask the right questions respectively you will get the right answers!
£23,000 a year is just £1,917 pounds a month, how much is food, how much is house rent, furniture, fittings and electronics? How much is phone and phone bills? Car note and fuel? TV license? Gas for cooking and heat in winter? Clothes nko? NHS/Health care cost nko?


Based on current income tax system, personal allowance (which is annual income that isnt subject to any income tax) is set at a threshhold of £12,570. Anything above this to £50,270, the excess is subject to a 20% deductible income tax.

So by simple maths £23,000 - £12,570 = £10,430

20% of £10,430 is £2,086, so his annual income tax out of that £23,000 a year is £2,086. Which means his annual income after they deduct income tax is £20,914. That is £1,742 a month......

We have not deducted NHS and other deductible taxes from that £1,742, we haven't touched on your personal bills and utilities......

Anybody, earning £1,917 monthly before taxes is considered low income, anybody that earns £1,917 monthly before taxes that supports a family is considered poor in the UK!!

At #6,000,000 a year in Nigeria Sir, you are not poor. If they paid you that #6,000,000 here in a year, you are more than capable to live a comfortable life, dress well, buy a good used car, raise a family, send your kids to reasonably good schools and if you manage money well, build a house in one remote area to retire to as a pensioneer.

Try and achieve the same feat in the UK on £23,000 a year whether you no go jam rock!
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by megastu(m): 9:11pm On Dec 16, 2023
Cost of three-bedroom apartment in Lagos - N1,500,000.00 per annum ( 940 pounds per annum)
Cost of three bedroom apartment in London - 1600 pounds per month- (19,200 pounds per annum) N 30,270,000 per annum

Do the maths!!!

TOPCRUISE:
Depends on the pay and future oriented goals pertaining to himself and kids.

Average Bank manager salary in Nigeria: N11,000,000/ annum.
Average skyscraper salary in UK: £27,304/annum. Or N30,000,000 to N35,000,000

Do the maths.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Metrofox(m): 9:12pm On Dec 16, 2023
bolabizzle:
Just got word from a friend about someone who made the move from being a bank manager in Nigeria to working as a skyscraper cleaner in the UK. 😕

Smart move or not?
Keep asking stupid question until kidnappers bill you into poverty or Boko Haram catch you
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Jewessgratitud3: 9:13pm On Dec 16, 2023
lilyheaven:
You are absolutely right,
I remember how many years I searched for job 😢
I registered for Ielt, I just wanted to leave this country, since I got a job, I forgot the Ietls, though I learnt a lot, but I don’t feel like leaving again 😀
It's usually a bit tough at the beginning but after a while you'll settle in nicely and begin to enjoy.

Abeg try come home come greet us wey dey here o. 😂
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by BreconHills(m): 9:17pm On Dec 16, 2023
TOPCRUISE:
Depends on the pay and future oriented goals pertaining to himself and kids.

Average Bank manager salary in Nigeria: N11,000,000/ annum.
Average skyscraper salary in UK: £27,304/annum. Or N30,000,000 to N35,000,000

Do the maths.
You are quoting the official salary of a bank manager lipsrsealed
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by erico2k2(m): 9:17pm On Dec 16, 2023
Laple0541:
Look at this fool

Is accident which fall under emergency and falling ill and going to the hospital thesame? Even in Nigeria where things are not proper, emergencies are ought to be prioritized.

I say it categorically again, in US and Canada, there are aspects your so called healthcare package does not cover. For dental services for instance in Canada, you must have a private insurance to get that. It’s even worse in the State.

Instead of sounding foolish you can google to confirm even if you haven’t been there before.
You even sound worse than I thought. You are a lost sheep.You are trying to describe a society that I have lived in my total adult life to me .The problem with people like u is ur Ego. You think you are too big to learn and the reality is U know jackshaft.For the benefit of other the NHS covers all aspect of Health care. If not people on Benefit and pay cheques wont have dental services. YOU want to appear sufisticated but in reality U are one bunch of ignorant human living in an Enclosed Camp.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by MrJames007: 9:19pm On Dec 16, 2023
flokii:
His life, his headache... he wanted to be seeing snow and be forming fake accent like Oyibos.

Let him enjoy his cleaning job overseas.
lol

U sef grin
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by erico2k2(m): 9:20pm On Dec 16, 2023
megastu:
Cost of three-bedroom apartment in Lagos - N1,500,000.00 per annum ( 940 pounds per annum)
Cost of three bedroom apartment in London - 1600 pounds per month- (19,200 pounds per annum) N 30,270,000 per annum

Do the maths!!!
Why should he be living in a 3 Ed house in London?what's wrong with a double room??
BTW my 2 bed flat in PHC I rent it for 1.5m to my tenants. so I don't know what ur lagos lease cost is.I thi k U need to ask well.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by emmaodet: 9:24pm On Dec 16, 2023
Nazgul:
The question you should be asking is how much does a bank manager earn in Nigeria?

If you must know, no bank in Nigeria pays their branch managers up to N1m. On an average, they earn between 500-600k. (That's about $600 not pounds o)

A skyscraper window cleaner in the UK earns about £23,000. With that amount, you can live comfortably in the UK.

Aside the risks involved in the job, I won't say he made a bad choice.
Are you sure he is living more comfortable than a bank manager?
Even though he earns $2000 per month in UK while the bank manager earns #500k in Nigeria, a bank manager will still live in a bigger apartment than a room the cleaner lives in UK.
I doubt the cleaner can buy any apartment in UK with that money and clear the debt in 15 years
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Laple0541(m): 9:27pm On Dec 16, 2023
erico2k2:
You even sound worse than I thought. You are a lost sheep.You are trying to describe a society that I have lived in my total adult life to me .The problem with people like u is ur Ego. You think you are too big to learn and the reality is U know jackshaft.For the benefit of other the NHS covers all aspect of Health care. If not people on Benefit and pay cheques wont have dental services. YOU want to appear sufisticated but in reality U are one bunch of ignorant human living in an Enclosed Camp.
You are right 👍

Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by erico2k2(m):
ehissi:
£23,000 a year is just £1,917 pounds a month, how much is food, how much is house rent, furniture, fittings and electronics? How much is phone and phone bills? Car note and fuel? TV license? Gas for cooking and heat in winter? Clothes nko? NHS/Health care cost nko?


Based on current income tax system, personal allowance (which is annual income that isnt subject to any income tax) is set at a threshhold of £12,570. Anything above this to £50,270, the excess is subject to a 20% deductible income tax.

So by simple maths £23,000 - £12,570 = £10,430

20% of £10,430 is £2,086, so his annual income tax out of that £23,000 a year is £2,086. Which means his annual income after they deduct income tax is £20,914. That is £1,742 a month......

We have not deducted NHS and other deductible taxes from that £1,742, we haven't touched on your personal bills and utilities......

Anybody, earning £1,917 monthly before taxes is considered low income, anybody that earns £1,917 monthly before taxes that supports a family is considered poor in the UK!!

At #6,000,000 a year in Nigeria Sir, you are not poor. If they paid you that #6,000,000 here in a year, you are more than capable to live a comfortable life, dress well, buy a good used car, raise a family, send your kids to reasonably good schools and if you manage money well, build a house in one remote area to retire to as a pensioneer.

Try and achieve the same feat in the UK on £23,000 a year whether you no go jam rock!
I think I earned less than £23k when I bought my 1st house in the UK.however.Even today I have seen people buying thier own home with £20k salary.Everyone must not live inside London.
As for the N6m u quoted .you realy think that big money right?I can tell U it all depends on your standard of living..some persons earn less but they know how to live.My Dad drives a 3.7ltr suv his fuel bill as things stands is roughly N120k that's to work n back in a month.if U add social and other commute this can easily raise to N150k.then Gen?then U talk food and tkt to do health check in the UK 2 times a year.what I'm trying to say here is simple big man big problem.a typical civil servant can easily spend 80% of his salary on Cost of living and No savings. Easy.
Nb
As for tax.Do you ever wonder why you are always ask Salary b4 tax or deductionhuhsimple cos there is not one. Blanket tax %. In the UK we have Tax Code.this is what the tax man use to tax us.we might earn same salary but taxed different. Ie Age is a factor.mariage is another factor. Deductions like student loans other incomes ie side hustle or other employments etc are factors.there is a shyte loads of variables. I actually earn more than my basic pay cos of Primum pay aka overtime.
We also earn tax free pay as well ie my car has business insurance cos I use it to commute to a different place of work.Now I. An claim up to 60p per mile.I can clame up to £25 for lunch and claim up to £150 per night for hotel accommodation or bread and breakfast all tax free..I get paid Unsocialable allowance if I work nights .as I work overtime I generate holiday pay which is taxable and paid with my salary. The tax system is very complex in the UK U need to live earn here to understand a fraction of it..
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by erico2k2(m): 9:34pm On Dec 16, 2023
agabusta:
You people should stop blanket conversion of take home pay in the UK to naira.

The circumstance are not same. The monthly house rent alone in the Uk is like 1 year house rent here. If you convert it.
We know that's why people live in one room.and they drive Range rover sport to work.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Adolfnigeria: 9:34pm On Dec 16, 2023
read your post--- is it not myopic and short-sighted ? No depth in your analysis.

I'm schooling you bro.

Jewessgratitud3:
For someone who claims to be doing well you sound so bitter Abi na the over earning dey make you dey abusive abi na the hard life? Dey deceive yourself.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by naturefellow(m): 9:36pm On Dec 16, 2023
papyjaypaul:
That's one of the top paying jobs abroad because of the safety risk. To clean window no be small and if it makes you happy, good. Nigeria should let people be paid for their skills so unemployment can reduce. I wish Seun pays jobless people here to help the economy.

To those who always judge japa, many of you suffer from low self esteem. The land is green where you water the grass. If Naija bad for your eye, everything you do go bad, u no go see good thing there. Focus on your life wherever you are and stop wasting your time worrying about others.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by naturefellow(m): 9:37pm On Dec 16, 2023
Jewessgratitud3:
Soft life to hard life.

I guess when he got there and saw the pile of bills staring him in the face he had no choice but to grab the next available job.

If you are gainfully employed in naija, you don't need to japa. Japa is for someone who has no hope of ever getting a job in Nigeria. He'll appreciate any kind of job he finds there.
there is dignity in honest labour... whether bank manager or skyscraper cleaner.

Don't let plenty likes make you think you're making sense. Or console yourself with seemingly negative japa outcomes.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Jewessgratitud3: 9:41pm On Dec 16, 2023
naturefellow:
there is dignity in honest labour... whether bank manager or skyscraper cleaner.

Don't let plenty likes make you think you're making sense.
Na the likes wey I gather dey pepper you for body abi na naija dey do you? Which one?

Abeg shift!
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Itsrm(m): 9:48pm On Dec 16, 2023
Nazgul:
The question you should be asking is how much does a bank manager earn in Nigeria?

If you must know, no bank in Nigeria pays their branch managers up to N1m. On an average, they earn between 500-600k. (That's about $600 not pounds o)

A skyscraper window cleaner in the UK earns about £23,000. With that amount, you can live comfortably in the UK.

Aside the risks involved in the job, I won't say he made a bad choice.
Spitting falsehood with confidence. Only on nairaland cheesy
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by naturefellow(m): 9:49pm On Dec 16, 2023
Jewessgratitud3:
Na the likes wey I gather dey pepper you for body abi na naija dey do you? Which one?

Abeg shift!
Your submission is misleading, wrong!
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by ashjay001(m): 9:52pm On Dec 16, 2023
Iamzik:
What do you mean by "earn more"? Does he pay his bills in dollars or naira?

How long will he need to work that factory job to pay off a home mortgage?
He has access to a mortgage?!
They both could afford cars and comfortable accommodation within months of getting there, on a menial salary.
Whatever bills they're paying, what is leftover is more than thier Naija salary
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by joseph1832(m): 9:52pm On Dec 16, 2023
GboyegaD:
I am amused when I read such threads as this. When will we learn to mind our business?

A grown up makes his choice and lives by it and we in our usual sanctimonious stance tries to pass judgment. Truth is I see these kind of post as being envious of the other person.
this is the same way, many mock people who chose to vote Tinubu. Whatever happened to respecting people's choice?
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by emmaodet: 10:00pm On Dec 16, 2023
MT:
Why do you guys talk this way? huh huh huh
I don't even know bro.
I don't understand how someone staying in one room is living better than someone staying in 3 bedroom flat.
Where someone who can't afford a private school for his kids and private hospital in abroad will think he is better than a banker that can send his kids to private school here and private hospital.
It still baffles me
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by pquaver(m): 10:02pm On Dec 16, 2023
olowoba2:
It's not about whether it is the same in Nigeria. It's about comparing what he earns with respect to his cost of living in UK vs what he was earning as a bank manager with respect to cost of living in Nigeria.
A salary of 23,000 pounds even if you add allowances is peanuts in UK. You will basically be barely surviving with mounting bills. No full time Nigerian bank manager is barely surviving in Nigeria.
The UK government has just increased the minimum salary threshold for foreign skilled workers to 38,700 pounds, which tells you how low the salary is.
Ok i get you
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Adolfnigeria: 10:07pm On Dec 16, 2023
In most of these countries, you don-t have to pay tuition for your children from primary school untill secondary... this is an advantage already.

The money people earn in Nigeria, due to bad governance is not sure in the future.

ten years ago 6,000,000,NGN was worth about 40,000USD

that same money is worth 4,200 USD approx.

the things you can buy with that money has even diminished.

Working for the slave masters, corrupt politicians in Nigeria.

Ohh boi , reason am....



 
ehissi:
This is the problem with some Nigerians, you assess ones income overseas based on the value of the money in your own country.

Is he living in Nigeria or living in the UK? Will he spend his income based on the cost of living in Nigeria in Naira or the cost of living in the UK in British pounds?

If I want to follow your argument in reverse, inside that same UK so, to buy raw akpu (Fufu) whey no big reach anywhere, is £2, which is #3,130 compared to #100 in Nigeria, e make sense abi?

£23,000 a year is just £1,917 pounds a month, how much is food, how much is house rent, furniture, fittings and electronics? How much is phone and phone bills? Car note and fuel? TV license? Gas for cooking and heat in winter? Clothes nko? NHS/Health care cost nko?


Based on current income tax system, personal allowance (which is annual income that isnt subject to any income tax) is set at a threshhold of £12,570. Anything above this to £50,270, the excess is subject to a 20% deductible income tax.

So by simple maths
£23,000 - £12,570 = £10,430.

20% of £10,430 is £2,086, so his annual income tax out of that £23,000 a year is £2,086. Which means his annual income after they deduct income tax is £20,914. That is £1,742 a month......

We have not deducted NHS and other deductible taxes from that £1,742, we haven't touched on your personal bills and utilities......

Anybody, earning £1,917 monthly before taxes is considered low income, anybody that earns £1,917 monthly before taxes that supports a family is considered poor in the UK!!

At #6,000,000 a year in Nigeria Sir, you are not poor. If they paid you that #6,000,000 here in a year, you are more than capable to live a comfortable life, dress well, buy a good used car, raise a family, send your kids to reasonably good schools and if you manage money well, build a house in one remote area to retire to as a pensioneer.

Try and achieve the same feat in the UK on £23,000 a year and see whether you no go jam rock!
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Mostaf: 10:23pm On Dec 16, 2023
Any idea on ECOSSE PHARMACEUTICAL UK, Glasgow
I RECEIVED PRESELECTION APPOINTMENT,
but I was referred to VALIDATION SYSTEMS LIMITED for document/ certification to pay 25 pounds any idea or confirmation
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Crafteck1: 10:30pm On Dec 16, 2023
olowoba2:
Not New York but UK. Read that OP's post well.
And a salary of USD 55K in New York is shit.ty.
Ok
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Fredfr33zy(m): 10:30pm On Dec 16, 2023
Jewessgratitud3:
Soft life to hard life.

I guess when he got there and saw the pile of bills staring him in the face he had no choice but to grab the next available job.

If you are gainfully employed in naija, you don't need to japa. Japa is for someone who has no hope of ever getting a job in Nigeria. He'll appreciate any kind of job he finds there.
What I keep telling a friend, is not how much you are paid. Is how much is left after paying all your bills. The money they are being over there isn't much. It is just our naira is losing value. I would rather be a bank manager in Nigeria, at least live comfortably to an extent. I have a classmate working a 12-hour shift to meet up.
Re: Japa: From Bank Manager To Skyscraper Cleaner by Crafteck1: 10:31pm On Dec 16, 2023
AfahaAbia:
STFU... You know nothing! An average bank manager earns from 1.5m to 6m a month. I work somewhere in Lagos and I am not a bank manager and I earn close to 900k....
I hear you sir...I know nothing
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