Leyqute:


Never.

Bowen is not a striker and his gameplay shows it. He's only good at putting chances to bed. Playing in the middle of the park is not for him. He's best suited for the right wing.

If he played RW in the last 3 games he'd have more goals.

The man literally has more goal contributions from playing as a CF this season than on the wings. He has 2 goals and 1 assist in the last 3 games alone.

afrodoc2:


We have to see what form Antonio is in when he comes back. Injuries can finish a player quick especially when he is about to turn 34.

Main point though is that Moyes is making the best out of the injury situation for now, and it is working. Doesn’t deserve flogging in my opinion.

I was talking about a fit Antonio.

The argument is superior from Bowen's angle. Bowen at CF only makes sense from the overall team view. Doesn't mean another solution can't be found.

It's the same as playing an in form Rashford at CF consistently last season because Martial got injured. If we hadn't gotten Weghorst in January, Rashford would probably not have scored as much goals as he did. And he wouldn't help the team as much as he did.

🚨🔴BREAKING:

Manchester United have accepted multiple offers for Anthony Martial, now is up to the player to decide where he wants to play next and reach agreement with that club. ✈️

Martial will leave #mufc this transfer window

Leyqute:


I was talking about a fit Antonio.

The argument is superior from Bowen's angle. Bowen at CF only makes sense from the overall team view. Doesn't mean another solution can't be found.

It's the same as playing an in form Rashford at CF consistently last season because Martial got injured. If we hadn't gotten Weghorst in January, Rashford would probably not have scored as much goals as he did. And he wouldn't help the team as much as he did.

You want to flog Moyes for using Bowen as a CF for this period despite the fact that it is working well with Bowen as CF and Qudus/Paqueta on the wings. How can you flog him for making successful adjustments to an emergency situation?

Okay if you were Moyes, what would you have done differently that would have ensured even better results?

Bombblacks:

The Antonio with only two league goals this season or another? Kudus is just one shy of his total goals scored over the last two seasons combined.

Yup. The Antonio that is the highest score in West Ham's history.

Antonio at CF is better than Bowen at CF. He's deadly when he's fit not goal wise alone but also in creating chances, esp for Bowen. Think about how Watkins and Baily work together.

However age has been catching onto him that's why he's having these injury problems. West Ham need a new CF.

Mrviktor:


He's good on the counter sha.
Since they play low block.

Less defensive work.

More attacking job.

Kudus now dey suffer from the defensive work

I don't get you.

Bombblacks:

The man literally has more goal contributions from playing as a CF this season than on the wings. He has 2 goals and 1 assist in the last 3 games alone.

Bowen is deadlier on the wings.

Leyqute:


Yup. The Antonio that is the highest score in West Ham's history.

Antonio at CF is better than Bowen at CF. He's deadly when he's fit not goal wise alone but also in creating chances, esp for Bowen. Think about how Watkins and Baily work together.

However age has been catching onto him that's why he's having these injury problems. West Ham need a new CF.

Over the last 2 seasons Antonio looks finished. Moyes will be mad to change a working formula when both Kudus and Bowen are excelling and the team is winning comfortably. They have won their last 3 Epl games scoring 7 conceding none despite playing Arsenal and Us.

Leyqute:


Bowen is deadlier on the wings.

He is also showing he is deadly too as a CF and they have kudus on the wings too who has slotted into Bowen spot and scoring goals as well. Why would you want to Moyes to change that?

Jokerman:
🚨🔴BREAKING:

Manchester United have accepted multiple offers for Anthony Martial, now is up to the player to decide where he wants to play next and reach agreement with that club. ✈️

Martial will leave #mufc this transfer window

This doesn't make sense for so many reasons.


Why will clubs be bidding for Martial when they can get him for free in May.


Why will martial even agree when he can get a huge signing fee when he leaves for free.


Why will United even want to sell their only back up striker when we know they won't get another striker in January.

afrodoc2:


You want to flog Moyes for using Bowen as a CF for this period despite the fact that it is working well with Bowen as CF and Qudus/Paqueta on the wings. How can you flog him for making successful adjustments to an emergency situation?

Okay if you were Moyes, what would you have done differently that would have ensured even better results?

My point is simple. Playing Bowen at CF won't get the most out of him.

The current setup helps the whole team temporarily but it's not the best for West Ham long term. Because Rashford scored a couple of goals at CF doesn't mean he's a CF.

As soon as things start going wrong, he'll throw that idea in the bin.

Bombblacks:

Over the last 2 seasons Antonio looks finished. Moyes will be mad to change a working formula when both Kudus and Bowen are excelling and the team is winning comfortably. They have won their last 3 Epl games scoring 7 conceding none despite playing Arsenal and Us.

They also chop 5 against Fulham and another 5 against Liverpool in the cup. Recently.

If they had a fit Antonio in the team their recent results won't be any different

Leyqute:


They also chop 5 against Fulham and another 5 against Liverpool in the cup. Recently.

If they had a fit Antonio in the team their recent results won't be any different

You have nothing to back this up especially when Antonio has been terrible this season. Fulham game was their only L in the last 8 league games so it's meaningless to their overall performance.

Leyqute:


My point is simple. Playing Bowen at CF won't get the most out of him.

The current setup helps the whole team temporarily but it's not the best for West Ham long term. Because Rashford scored a couple of goals at CF doesn't mean he's a CF.

As soon as things start going wrong, he'll throw that idea in the bin.

This is what you said.

Leyqute:


Moyes should be flogged for the way he's deployed Bowen in the last 3-4 games. Man's a winger, dunno why he's playing him as a CF. It's making him less effective

What would you have done differently in these last 3-4 games since you are so unsatisfied with Moyes that you want to flog him. Moyes that should be praised for getting a short-term solution to his predicament is who you want to flog?

The initial debate was not about West Ham long term and none of us knows if Moyes will use Bowen as a CF long term. He won't do that most likely. My initial question was about you criticizing Moyes over these past 4 games. What would you have done in this situation?

Meanwhile in the last 4 games Bowen has 3 goals and 1 assist.

Bombblacks:

This doesn't make sense for so many reasons.


Why will clubs be bidding for Martial when they can get him for free in May.


Why will martial even agree when he can get a huge signing fee when he leaves for free.


Why will United even want to sell their only back up striker when we know they won't get another striker in January.

degea situation nko.. lol

e go shock martial

afrodoc2:


This is what you said.

What would you have done differently in these last 3-4 games since you are so unsatisfied with Moyes that you want to flog him. Moyes that should be praised for getting a short-term solution to his predicament is who you want to flog?

The initial debate was not about West Ham long term and none of us knows if Moyes will use Bowen as a CF long term. He won't do that most likely. My initial question was about you criticizing Moyes over these past 4 games. What would you have done in this situation?

Meanwhile in the last 4 games Bowen has 3 goals and 1 assist.

LoL.

Is Bowen better at CF or as a RW? That's my main issue with the situation. Moyes might get away with the current configuration momentarily but once things change all of you will turn on him.

The only reason you're taking this position is because of West Ham's recent results. If things had gone wrong, you'd also be flogging him.

You Many fans were not okay with ETH selecting McTom because he scores goals to "suit the team" either but they were not very vocal about their position until United stopped winning games.

Bowen is not a CF. He's a right winger.

bowen is better on d counter, be it as a stiker, a false 9 or a winger.. just give him something to run onto

but if u are playing against an everton or southamptop, any low block team, u cant play bowen as a forward, he go too play rubbish...

Leyqute:


LoL.

Is Bowen better at CF or as a RW? That's my main issue with the situation. Moyes might get away with the current configuration momentarily but once things change all of you will turn on him.

The only reason you're taking this position is because of West Ham's recent results. If things had gone wrong, you'd also be flogging him.

You Many fans were not okay with ETH selecting McTom because he scores goals to "suit the team" either but they were not very vocal about their position until United stopped winning games.

Bowen is not a CF. He's a right winger.

Managers are paid to take brave decisions. If it works well they should be praised and if it fails they should be criticized.

1) Why do you want to flog Moyes over a decision that is working?
He never said he intends to use Bowen as CF for the rest of his life. He is just making use of the tools at his disposal RIGHT NOW.

2) What would you have done differently (and better) in the last 4 games?

in d last 5 games

arsenal have won just 2,
lost 2
and draw 1

manutd have lost 2
won 2
draw 2

but its manutd thats a disgrace and eth is a waste coach

afrodoc2:


He is doing cos that is the best way to get Qudus and Bowen into the team at the same time. The both prefer coming off the right. He will need to make tough decisions when Antonio comes back from injury though.

Shouldn’t Kudus be d one playing through the middle then?
Even thought he was a CF at Ajax

maik99:


Shouldn’t Kudus be d one playing through the middle then?
Even thought he was a CF at Ajax

Maybe, maybe not, but is it a crime punishable by flogging to do it the other way?


Kudus played CF occasionally at Ajax. He has also played CF once this season for West Ham too.


Meanwhile, i hope ETH sticks to the lineup from the last game with the probable exception of Shaw (if fit) for either AWB or Dalot.

Mrviktor:
bowen is better on d counter, be it as a stiker, a false 9 or a winger.. just give him something to run onto

but if u are playing against an everton or southamptop, any low block team, u cant play bowen as a forward, he go too play rubbish...

Bowen is not that good running through the middle unless it's about getting onto the final ball.

afrodoc2:


Managers are paid to take brave decisions. If it works well they should be praised and if it fails they should be criticized.

1) Why do you want to flog Moyes over a decision that is working?
He never said he intends to use Bowen as CF for the rest of his life. He is just making use of the tools at his disposal RIGHT NOW.

2) What would you have done differently (and better) in the last 4 games?

1. 'Decision' seems to be working because he got the game plan and defense on lockdown. They would've gotten counters and scored goals with Bowen on the right and Danny Ings or even that young striker as CF.

2. Use my players to the best of the abilities. Qudus is not an out and out winger. Bowen is not an out and out CF.

🚨🗣️ Cafu: "Gary Neville is paid to say a lot of lies on live TV. This is why he always talks. He never won anything big in his life. Who is he, to judge between Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo?"

"Only Ronaldinho, Pele, Platini and Zidane, can judge between these type of players because they were the only ones close to their level if not equal. English people talk too much without winning."

Thoughts? 🔥

Blake755:
🚨🗣️ Cafu: "Gary Neville is paid to say a lot of lies on live TV. This is why he always talks. He never won anything big in his life. Who is he, to judge between Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo?"

"Only Ronaldinho, Pele, Platini and Zidane, can judge between these type of players because they were the only ones close to their level if not equal. English people talk too much without winning."

Thoughts? 🔥

What lie has Neville said? he cant give his opinion on his preference between CR and Messi like everyone else?

Blake755:
🚨🗣️ Cafu: "Gary Neville is paid to say a lot of lies on live TV. This is why he always talks. He never won anything big in his life. Who is he, to judge between Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo?"

"Only Ronaldinho, Pele, Platini and Zidane, can judge between these type of players because they were the only ones close to their level if not equal. English people talk too much without winning."

Thoughts? 🔥

Makes no sense. Neville is a pundit so, it is his job to share his opinion on whatever topic is up for discourse.

Mrviktor:
in d last 5 games

arsenal have won just 2,
lost 2
and draw 1

manutd have lost 2
won 2
draw 2

but its manutd thats a disgrace and eth is a waste coach

Why last five game?

If utd was 2nd in the league and topped their ucl group, no one will call eth a waste coach.

Mrviktor:
in d last 5 games

arsenal have won just 2,
lost 2
and draw 1

manutd have lost 2
won 2
draw 2

but its manutd thats a disgrace and eth is a waste coach

Last five games, yet na man u own be 6.

Also, EPL football started in the last 5 games.

Oga, if you wan defend your coach, defend am, no deh use arsenal dey do attaché abeg

So are we waiting for Onana to go AFCON before Bayindir gets his debut?

afrodoc2:


Maybe, maybe not, but is it a crime punishable by flogging to do it the other way?


Kudus played CF occasionally at Ajax. He has also played CF once this season for West Ham too.


Meanwhile, i hope ETH sticks to the lineup from the last game with the probable exception of Shaw (if fit) for either AWB or Dalot.

Ohh that "flogging" part is beyond me😂
I prefer AWB to Dalot
Wonder if I'm alone

Blake755:
🚨🗣️ Cafu: "Gary Neville is paid to say a lot of lies on live TV. This is why he always talks. He never won anything big in his life. Who is he, to judge between Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo?"

"Only Ronaldinho, Pele, Platini and Zidane, can judge between these type of players because they were the only ones close to their level if not equal. English people talk too much without winning."

Thoughts? 🔥

Cafu is right... Well no one takes any of these English ex players seriously though.... So no qualms

Blake755:
🚨🗣️ Cafu: "Gary Neville is paid to say a lot of lies on live TV. This is why he always talks. He never won anything big in his life. Who is he, to judge between Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo?"

"Only Ronaldinho, Pele, Platini and Zidane, can judge between these type of players because they were the only ones close to their level if not equal. English people talk too much without winning."

Thoughts? 🔥

I doubt cafu will say this.