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Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Mosesdaniel: 1:08pm On Sep 27, 2022
Readonee35L:
The newer the better.
The 2GR is more advanced, slightly better mpg, more rugged .
Basically i don't see any disadvantage because the 2gr is almost indestructible despite the little errors they have they can stand the test of time.

The only disadvantage would be the cost of an engine replacement. But with proper maintenance the Engine will last the entire lifetime of that car.
Please sir how many liters of oil does the 2gr need
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Psoul(m): 4:17pm On Oct 07, 2022
an0daGuy:
Hehehe cheesy this bang guy. You too like quarrel pass fight. You don’t disappoint at all. Your ‘I too know’ level is alarming and worst is you’re ignorant on this particular case in question.

So you’re saying my personal experience isn’t admissible here? So what is your own fact and how did you arrive at it? See how quickly you ran to same google to try and bring up a flimsy counter to my narrative. At your age undecided

On your head I rest my case jare grin

Op for what it’s worth, based on the experience I’ve had for 2 years with these engines in the exact vehicle you wish to purchase.

1. The 3mz is more fuel economical than the 2gr

2. After any unfortunate case of overheating the 2gr is more susceptible to extensive damage than the 3mz.

Choose your poison wisely and leave that guy above to go to heaven and look for who to bang.

You are very correct.
I drives Sienna with 3MV engine.
I was traveling one morning and my sienna had transmission issue. I topped the oil. Before I could drive for 5 mins, I noticed that the engine has started over heating.
When I stopped, I noticed that the transmission oil was just freely pouring on the road. I mean pouring as if my gearbox casing was broken.
The road, was very dangerous. I was traveling alone. My destination was still about 1hr 30mins drive going at the speed of btw 100 and 120KMPH. And I can't go back to the place I took off from cos it is almost the same distance to my destination. You can't even get roadside mechanics till I get like 10mins drive to my destination.

I waited for the engine to cool down a bit. I topped water to the radiator. I took off again. The worst was the gear can't go beyond gear one and two.
I kept driving this car that way which put lot of pressure on the engine which resulted to serious over heating. I will drive and top water. A journey of about 2hrs 30mins took me more than 5hrs to arrive. The highest speed I could attain was 40kmph. Sometimes, I could not even go beyond 20kmph.

What am I trying to say. I was surprised that when the mechanic finished bleeding the radiator, no damage on the engine.
I repaired the gearbox with N150,000. It about 1yr now and the engine and the gearbox are still running efficiently and no issue.

My friend drives Sienna 2008 with 2GR engine. Small overheat caused serious damage to the engine.

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Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by ONNYX: 10:40am On Oct 13, 2022
Psoul:


You are very correct.
I drives Sienna with 3MV engine.
I was traveling one morning and my sienna had transmission issue. I topped the oil. Before I could drive for 5 mins, I noticed that the engine has started over heating.
When I stopped, I noticed that the transmission oil was just freely pouring on the road. I mean pouring as if my gearbox casing was broken.
The road, was very dangerous. I was traveling alone. My destination was still about 1hr 30mins drive going at the speed of btw 100 and 120KMPH. And I can't go back to the place I took off from cos it is almost the same distance to my destination. You can't even get roadside mechanics till I get like 10mins drive to my destination.

I waited for the engine to cool down a bit. I topped water to the radiator. I took off again. The worst was the gear can't go beyond gear one and two.
I kept driving this car that way which put lot of pressure on the engine which resulted to serious over heating. I will drive and top water. A journey of about 2hrs 30mins took me more than 5hrs to arrive. The highest speed I could attain was 40kmph. Sometimes, I could not even go beyond 20kmph.

What am I trying to say. I was surprised that when the mechanic finished bleeding the radiator, no damage on the engine.
I repaired the gearbox with N150,000. It about 1yr now and the engine and the gearbox are still running efficiently and no issue.

My friend drives Sienna 2008 with 2GR engine. Small overheat caused serious damage to the engine.

Bros I would like to confer with you bordering on the bolded. I sent you a pm but if you don't mind please reach me via zero,eight,zero 9999, four, one,3, 2.
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Trustingod777: 10:50pm On Oct 31, 2022
Please how much fuel can someone use from Ikorodu garage to Ayobo ipaja with Sienna 2007 car. Please I need your advice sir
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Idaytesj29(m): 9:38am On Jun 05, 2023
GAZZUZZ:


Heavenlybang for some strange reason he is right about the fuel economy thing.

I own both, and at some time i had a contract to supply 30 units to the south east for elections. The 3mzs where champs when it came to fuel economy while the 2gr were all guzzlers.


I think it's a sienna thing

The 3mzs engines, I understand that they come with timing belts. Please, when those belts cut, do they bend valves and damage engine?

I will appreciate your response. Thanks
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by GAZZUZZ(m): 3:17pm On Jun 05, 2023
Idaytesj29:


The 3mzs engines, I understand that they come with timing belts. Please, when those belts cut, do they bend valves and damage engine?

I will appreciate your response. Thanks

They do
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Idaytesj29(m): 5:36pm On Jun 05, 2023
GAZZUZZ:


They do

Thanks. Bless you. For someone in transport business, is every 6 months okay for routine change of the belt?
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by GAZZUZZ(m): 7:18pm On Jun 05, 2023
Idaytesj29:


Thanks. Bless you. For someone in transport business, is every 6 months okay for routine change of the belt?

Hell no grin

Original belts brand new will last over 100,000miles, that should take you about 5 years if you are that busy

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Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Idaytesj29(m): 9:06pm On Jun 05, 2023
GAZZUZZ:


Hell no grin

Original belts brand new will last over 100,000miles, that should take you about 5 years if you are that busy

Thanks boss. You have been so helpful. God bless.

I will reach out to you when it's time to get the original belt.
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Ceceking(m): 9:40am On Jul 18, 2023
Talking from experience, I drive a sienna with a 2gr engine,
Yes talking about speed and stability, the 2gr has it over the 3mz but as per maintenance...no no no, it's not cheap to maintain,
Fuel consumption is high, it takes me 15 litres of fuel to go on a 60klm journey while a normal 3mz would consume less than 10 litres,
any slight thing to fix in the engine will require it being brought down completely as it has a timing chain other than a belt,
The 2gr is prone to overheating once it overheats , definitely your top gasket is gone and engine needs to be brought down to change just top gasket ...


I had my own fair share of the troubles of a 2gr but no doubt it's a nice engine only if you don't put the car to stress everyday, just good for personal use ...


It has speed and is rugged

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Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Soulsymbol99: 1:33pm On Aug 27, 2023
I don't think I have heard of anyone driving Toyota Venza, 2012 highlander etc complain of overheating. This is cause they both use same 2gr engines with sienna. So my question is, are we sure the overheating is not a sienna thing? Cause overheating is always the issue wit sienna wit 2gr engine

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Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by RoadMozart(m): 1:56pm On Aug 27, 2023
Soulsymbol99:
I don't think I have heard of anyone driving Toyota Venza, 2012 highlander etc complain of overheating. This is cause they both use same 2gr engines with sienna. So my question is, are we sure the overheating is not a sienna thing? Cause overheating is always the issue wit sienna wit 2gr engine
I also drive a highlander with 2gr engine. Haven't witnessed overheating since
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Soulsymbol99: 4:49pm On Aug 27, 2023
RoadMozart:

I also drive a highlander with 2gr engine. Haven't witnessed overheating since

That's the thing. I think it also depends on who is driving it. Some people can be careless. There own is just to start and drive

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Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by ChybuzzDD(m): 1:58pm On Sep 02, 2023
Ceceking:
Talking from experience, I drive a sienna with a 2gr engine,
Yes talking about speed and stability, the 2gr has it over the 3mz but as per maintenance...no no no, it's not cheap to maintain,
Fuel consumption is high, it takes me 15 litres of fuel to go on a 60klm journey while a normal 3mz would consume less than 10 litres,
any slight thing to fix in the engine will require it being brought down completely as it has a timing chain other than a belt,
The 2gr is prone to overheating once it overheats , definitely your top gasket is gone and engine needs to be brought down to change just top gasket ...


I had my own fair share of the troubles of a 2gr but no doubt it's a nice engine only if you don't put the car to stress everyday, just good for personal use ...


It has speed and is rugged

You're very correct, man!

An RX 350 i just bought last month as a returned to Nigeria got overheated today and developed a burnt gasket, and the mechanic said he would bring down the engine to replace the gasket.

What's your experience with gasket replacements by Nigerian mechanics, abeg?

I heard cars start having issues, especially these 2gr engines, once our mechanics work on them.
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by franklin93(m): 7:01pm On Dec 06, 2023
Actually, I don't know much about the fuel economy of the 3MZ and 2GR on a sienna.

A lot of factors come into play here. If the sienna is powered by a 2GR on AWD system, it will likely take more fuel. Note that the fuel economy of these engines is dependent on the cars the engines are used in.

I have a 2004 Lexus ES330 with the 3MZ engine and I can confidently tell you it is more fuel efficient than a Toyota camry big daddy (04) with a 2AZ 4 cylinder engine and a Honda EOD 4 cylinder I once owned. I cannot complain when it comes to the fuel efficiency of the 3MZ.

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Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by Dozieson(m): 7:48pm On Dec 06, 2023
franklin93:
Actually, I don't know much about the fuel economy of the 3MZ and 2GR on a sienna.

A lot of factors come into play here. If the sienna is powered by a 2GR on AWD system, it will likely take more fuel. Note that the fuel economy of these engines is dependent on the cars the engines are used in.

I have a 2004 Lexus ES330 with the 3MZ engine and I can confidently tell you it is more fuel efficient than a Toyota camry big daddy (04) with a 2AZ 4 cylinder engine and a Honda EOD 4 cylinder I once owned. I cannot complain when it comes to the fuel efficiency of the 3MZ.

Bros I disagree. What is your fuel consumption per km in 2AZ ?
Also, share same for 3MZ.

My 2AZ is doing 11km with 1 liters in Abuja roads.
My colleague 3MZ sienna is doing 6km per liter in same Abuja
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by pointblankeirie: 1:57am On Dec 09, 2023
franklin93:
Actually, I don't know much about the fuel economy of the 3MZ and 2GR on a sienna.

A lot of factors come into play here. If the sienna is powered by a 2GR on AWD system, it will likely take more fuel. Note that the fuel economy of these engines is dependent on the cars the engines are used in.

I have a 2004 Lexus ES330 with the 3MZ engine and I can confidently tell you it is more fuel efficient than a Toyota camry big daddy (04) with a 2AZ 4 cylinder engine and a Honda EOD 4 cylinder I once owned. I cannot complain when it comes to the fuel efficiency of the 3MZ.
I disagree also, owned 04 lex es 330 and currently 05 lex rx330…. Can u imagine the suv is far more fuel efficient than the salon es 330. Lexus ES 330 04 was a fuel guzzler , I don’t know about subsequent years though
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by ugreat(m): 3:51pm On Dec 29, 2023
Hello Sirs,
I want to ask which of the Sienna model between 2004-2007 has 3MZ engine?

Also is there a way to physically identify 3mz Vs 2gr engine? Thanks in anticipation.

Ps: asking cos I want to buy these model of Sienna with 3MZ engine. Thanks
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by ukandi1(m): 6:05am On Dec 30, 2023
I have owned both siennas, the 2005 with 3 mz and 2007 with 2gr.

The 3mz is better in fuel economy and ruggedness. It hardly breaks and very loyal.

The 2gr seems faster but too difficult to maintain. It's a fuel consumer, very expensive to maintain but a powerhouse. It can break down for the simplest reasons

My advice : stay away from the 2gr complete 💯. Don't say you didn't know or hear.

98% of commercial siennas run on 3mz. There's a reason transport companies prefer the 3mz.

My opinion from experience
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by ukandi1(m): 6:09am On Dec 30, 2023
ugreat:
Hello Sirs,
I want to ask which of the Sienna model between 2004-2007 has 3MZ engine?

Also is there a way to physically identify 3mz Vs 2gr engine? Thanks in anticipation.

Ps: asking cos I want to buy these model of Sienna with 3MZ engine. Thanks

3mz has the engine top cover with red inscription on it boldly written VVT-I , 3.3.
The 2gr is plane with Toyota logo and V6 so boldly crested. The 2gr is crested there too but faintly on the cover.
Re: Advice Needed For A Sienna: 2gr Engine Or 3mz Engine by ugreat(m): 8:28am On Dec 30, 2023
ukandi1:


3mz has the engine top cover with red inscription on it boldly written VVT-I , 3.3.
The 2gr is plane with Toyota logo and V6 so boldly crested. The 2gr is crested there too but faintly on the cover.

Thanks Boss... I've learnt

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