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Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Drbarmes(m): 12:27pm On Jan 12, 2024
Gandollar:
Wahala dey o.

Those other pastors that had a lot of doubt about him are now vindicated.

But I can't blame anyone who still fight for the dead man because he was overly generous.
Him generous reach pablo ascobar?
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Cantonese: 12:29pm On Jan 12, 2024
DaddyJapan:
The excerpt provided above is why Cult-Daddy's disciples on NL, who ask for video evidence of his historical crimes, need to be called out for their tomfoolery. Like any Cult, this one was ruled with tyranny too.

If you cannot accept that Cult-Daddy stuck to a tried and tested playbook, which helped institute fear into the impressionable minds of his young victims, you need to have your brain tested.
Did you read the following?

“He was nocturnal

First and foremost, I noticed TB Joshua was a man of the night. He would summon us the senior editorial staff to his church for meetings fixed for 5 or 6 pm but would never show up until 12 or 1 am the following morning. And when he eventually showed up the matter for which he called us could be very mundane. And the meeting itself hardly lasted longer than 10 minutes.

But while keeping us waiting he would feed the team to bursting with sumptuous meals, many times, jollof or fried rice heaped to the skies with huge chunks of chicken.

Being a spiritually sensitive person I never tasted the food, though it was always highly attractive. I was always remembering Daniel and the King’s portion in the bible. My colleagues who could have much more than normal usually would eat my portion”.

The writer rejected the food, but he accepted the envelope of 25,000 given each time they had their meetings.

If the deceitful and lying writer was not being economical with the truth, how did he equate himself with the biblical Daniel? How on earth did he not reject them money. Daniel rejected everything that would pollute him. The greedy writer accepted the money.

Bro, I wonder how you read with such bias. The writer for me clearly not only enjoyed the food, he took enough home to enjoy with his family.

The writer is one of those crooks out there. He is one of those called “chop and clean mouth”. He not only did not clean his mouth, he opened it to tell lies. He is one of those who chose to tarnish the image of the man. The writer must be one of those crooked “Pastor” who found their ways into RCCG to pollute the church.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by thesicilian: 12:31pm On Jan 12, 2024
spiSeyi:
The holy Bible said that truth shall be established with 2 or 3 witnesses something is truly fish about TBJ, is this man also paid according to some brainwashed folks?
The bitter truth is most of the daddy GOs are on the same table with TBJ. Last week one of them Daddy GO forbids order ministers from preaching in their church and I was like are Christians not reading the same Bible or is there another version of Jesus? Judgment day go though undecided
Don't forget that many witnesses also came up to testify against Jesus at his trial. Did that change the fact that He's the Son of God? Let's learn to apply wisdom in our dealings
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Ken4Christ: 12:32pm On Jan 12, 2024
TechCapon:
Enough with the lies already. All these worthless disgraceful and disgruntled so called ex-workers and ex-disciples. These lies cannot erase all the good things TB Joshua did during his life. I don't know about the miracles but I know a lot about his philanthropy and passion for empowering the poor. Many young guys are playing football in Europe today because of his sponsorship.
But the scripture says that in the mouth of two or three witnesses, every word shall be established. And in this case, there are several witnesses pointing to the same thing.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by lomprico(m): 12:32pm On Jan 12, 2024
Aru!
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by DaddyJapan(m): 12:33pm On Jan 12, 2024
Cantonese:
Did you read the following?

“He was nocturnal

First and foremost, I noticed TB Joshua was a man of the night. He would summon us the senior editorial staff to his church for meetings fixed for 5 or 6 pm but would never show up until 12 or 1 am the following morning. And when he eventually showed up the matter for which he called us could be very mundane. And the meeting itself hardly lasted longer than 10 minutes.

But while keeping us waiting he would feed the team to bursting with sumptuous meals, many times, jollof or fried rice heaped to the skies with huge chunks of chicken.

Being a spiritually sensitive person I never tasted the food, though it was always highly attractive. I was always remembering Daniel and the King’s portion in the bible. My colleagues who could have much more than normal usually would eat my portion”.

The writer rejected the food, but he accepted the envelope of 25,000 given each time they had their meetings.

If the deceitful and lying writer was not being economical with the truth, how did he equate himself with the biblical Daniel? How on earth did he not reject them money. Daniel rejected everything that would pollute him. The greedy writer accepted the money.

Bro, I wonder how you read with such bias. The writer for me clearly not only enjoyed the food, he took enough home to enjoy with his family.

The writer is one of those crooks out there. He is one of those called “chop and clean mouth”. He not only did not clean his mouth, he opened it to tell lies. He is one of those who chose to tarnish the image of the man. The writer must be one of those crooked “Pastor” who found their ways into RCCG to pollute the church.
Do you have a problem with comprehension?

Has does your response relate to my earlier post?
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by cucumbar: 12:34pm On Jan 12, 2024
Akalia:
In my view though not firsthand but drawing from the testaments of those who had firsthand encounter with TB. J and his ministry on earth, I am inclined to say that he was a true man of God who struggled with his perculair set of human weaknesses.

TB. J was not a perfect servant of God just like the rest of us still walking the earth but he strived to fulfill his Devine mandate on earth. Whether he was able to fulfil it or not only heaven knows.

My spirit affirms this within me, I want to believe that I am right.
TB Joshua was a voodoo master. I’m sure you had not been given birth to when they used to air his program on N, otherwise you won’t put TB Joshua and man of God in the same sentence.

Your spirit is affirming wrongly . As in, wrongest affirmation na I’m your spirit give you.

I was in my early teens then, and could tell that this person’s powers were not of God.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Holla911(m): 12:35pm On Jan 12, 2024
cucumbar:
if you weren’t able to see that TB Joshua wasn’t of God, then you have no business with Christ. You don’t know Christ or the Bible.
Tell me about Christ or the Bible and how to identify anyone of God.
I assume you are an assistant of God to know who is and who isn’t of God 🙄
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Ken4Christ: 12:37pm On Jan 12, 2024
Thinktwicemybro:
A FACELESS PASTOR. Show your face. At least the man you seek to condemn have a face and gave you a job. Gave you food and money but you rather choose to be ungrateful because of your jealous Spirit.
A pastor routine life is not Same with other profession. He can call for a meeting and be in prayers and remain in prayers longer than he thought. You cannot tell him when to end his prayers. And yes, true men of God don't sleep at night. You can ask your RCCG GO.

Why are you economical with the truth?

If the pastor's sees a vision that a couple can only have children of they break up, who are you to dispute or fight God? He did not swap people's wives, he only told them to part ways.
By the spirit some marriages are not meant to be. Some people will have more happiness in their lives if they break their marriage today but they don't know this because they have not sought the face of God.
Ending a marriage is not ending the world.
I know someone who divorced his wife who could not bear a child and today he has many children. The beautiful thing is that his ex wife also have children now. The important thing is happiness.
Not everybody can bear childlessness for long. I am sure if you faceless pastor had it difficult to have a child, people like you will do worse and impregnate your house help.
Which is worse?

Why are you twisting the narrative like he forced other men on other peoples wives?

Well you have gotten your 2 minutes of Fame and that's all you can get because the late prophet is still better than you in death.
Are you aware one of the Pastor who left him said he separated him and his wife. And he would not permit him to see his wife for 7 years. And even rumour had it that his wife became pregnant during the period of separation. What more do you want to hear to believe that your idol has questionable characters?
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by cucumbar: 12:40pm On Jan 12, 2024
gidjah:
If any clergy in this nation can't see through uncle josh and decode evil, then that person's spiritualty is very questionable.I have know him since the 90s while he just started d Synagogue and heard a lot about him then when there was no even gsm to pass information,no internet then, so passing such info was a harsh task. I could count few persons too who have tried exposing uncle josh who met Thier end mysteriously.The married women who met him then could testify of been raped at midnight by d very image (may be ghost)of UNCLE J. I know of a woman who developed asthma attack,very cronic one at that ,(I have never seen that kind till date)my dear.And this attack comes up on her whenever SHE WANNA SAY SOMETHING ABOUT UNCLE J ! can u imagine that level of attack, I was quite young then in my Teens but I
was very intelligent and could place fingers on happenings those years.See my dear, this life IS SPIRITUAL AND A MYSTERY,U MUST FANTOM OUT FOR YOUR SELF ,if you can't find a path to thread towards destiny ,one would just wste IN TIME,that's why A LIFE WITHOUT GOD IS A LIFE IN GROSS EMPTY NESS AND VANITY ,such a soull will never be fulfilled no matter d achievements.(quotee author=Gandollar post=127902603]Wahala dey o.

Those other pastors that had a lot of doubt about him are now vindicated.

But I can't blame anyone who still fight for the dead man because he was overly generous.
thank you. ALL the people supporting him most likely knew him when he had rebranded, on Emmanuel TV.
Anyone that knew TB Joshua wham NTA used to air his program on Sunday nights when he just started would know that he didn’t have anything to do with God.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Cantonese: 12:40pm On Jan 12, 2024
DaddyJapan:
Do you have a problem with comprehension?

Has does your response relate to my earlier post?
You have the problem with comprehension, even with your unnecessary rudeness.

Did you write without reading? Or did you expect dullards only on this forum with no reasonable or civil responses to such discussions?

Why not read clearly and discuss with decorum?

Read the message clearly. Read your comment and read mine. Look then to see if my own opinion was not in tandem with what you claim.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by iswallker(m): 12:46pm On Jan 12, 2024
Thinktwicemybro:
A FACELESS PASTOR. Show your face. At least the man you seek to condemn have a face and gave you a job. Gave you food and money but you rather choose to be ungrateful because of your jealous Spirit.
A pastor routine life is not Same with other profession. He can call for a meeting and be in prayers and remain in prayers longer than he thought. You cannot tell him when to end his prayers. And yes, true men of God don't sleep at night. You can ask your RCCG GO.

Why are you economical with the truth?

If the pastor's sees a vision that a couple can only have children of they break up, who are you to dispute or fight God? He did not swap people's wives, he only told them to part ways.
By the spirit some marriages are not meant to be. Some people will have more happiness in their lives if they break their marriage today but they don't know this because they have not sought the face of God.
Ending a marriage is not ending the world.
I know someone who divorced his wife who could not bear a child and today he has many children. The beautiful thing is that his ex wife also have children now. The important thing is happiness.
Not everybody can bear childlessness for long. I am sure if you faceless pastor had it difficult to have a child, people like you will do worse and impregnate your house help.
Which is worse?

Why are you twisting the narrative like he forced other men on other peoples wives?

Well you have gotten your 2 minutes of Fame and that's all you can get because the late prophet is still better than you in death.
Really.... cheesy
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by ManOfSon: 12:55pm On Jan 12, 2024
Don't you think you are a disgrace. You carry big Bibles about claiming to know God but fail the most basic test of spirituality and discernment. Is this not why 419 is a boom in Nigeria because Nigerians are generally easily deceived by outward appearances? When are you ever going to stop judging your so-called men of god from the perspective of generosity and philanthropy? Even Jesus Christ wondered whether it wasn't the case that the people that followed Him everyday were doing so because he always gave them food. Have you read that passage before in the Bible you carry about?

TechCapon:
Enough with the lies already. All these worthless disgraceful and disgruntled so called ex-workers and ex-disciples. These lies cannot erase all the good things TB Joshua did during his life. I don't know about the miracles but I know a lot about his philanthropy and passion for empowering the poor. Many young guys are playing football in Europe today because of his sponsorship.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by 11doubledee: 12:57pm On Jan 12, 2024
money121:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/tb-joshua-made-childless-couples-to-exchange-spouses-ex-worker/%3famp
Please give us the names of both couples involved,at least one or two will know them,so that we can know the truth.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by DaddyJapan(m): 12:58pm On Jan 12, 2024
Cantonese:
You have the problem with comprehension, even with your unnecessary rudeness.

Did you write without reading? Or did you expect dullards only on this forum with no reasonable or civil responses to such discussions?

Why not read clearly and discuss with decorum?

Read the message clearly. Read your comment and read mine. Look then to see if my own opinion was not in tandem with what you claim.
He was nocturnal and he gave the writer food - so what?

How does your rambling post relate to my mine, which was directed at all those who have chosen to malign his victims?

You really need to work on your comprehension skills.

Footnote: Don't just read in order to respond, read to understand.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Akjohny: 12:58pm On Jan 12, 2024
False allegations...
I know 4 among those testifiers... Agomo.. the man on suit was sent to Ghana as jnr prophet for a program at the branch church... He fell in love with a daughter of a minister. And Tb Joshua told him that he wasn't seeing them getting married that agomo should "take his time to ask God for direction not just you saw a rich lady and you want to marry her " agomo wasn't pleased with the whole thing and started misbehaving in the church especially in carrying out his duties.. few months later the lady died .. TB Joshua called him after several reports about agomo and told him" is like your mind is no longer here", he blessed him spiritually and financially and asked him to go...

Ajoke is not a biological daughter of TB Joshua, she was abandoned at the church entrance and TB Joshua took her to a police station, wrote a report and took care of her from primary to university... She grew up and became rude and arrogant to most of the workers and members, even those old enough to be her parents... I knew her very well because I worked there for 1 nd half year.. she's no where near TB Joshua's daughters in terms of character.

Cloren was a reporter and an Evangelist.. always complaining that she barely sleep for 2hours at night... Bcuz of work, Bible studies and studio work.. I'm a witness to that.. if u r in scoan as an Evangelist.. you should know that you are there for training and whenever your colleagues are working, you can't be sleeping. Every student went through test and examination before graduation.. many who endured today are Wisemen and women doing greatly in ministry.

Lastly Bisola.. the lady with eyes prob
She was brought to the church when she burnt down a whole storey building bcuz of spirit of anger.. whenever she's angry, she destroys things around her .. she said it herself is on Facebook and YouTube.. she was prayed for and she became normal.. she pleaded that TB Joshua should help her, that she doesn't want to go back to the world anymore she cried with tears.. TB Joshua took her in and made her one the head working at foreign visitors department.. going to airport to bring visitors with escorts and taking care of their affairs.. lodging, feeding and words of faith as an encouragement.
One day, a foreign visitor couldn't find some amount of dollars in the briefcase Bisola took in. And the report got to TB Joshua.. investigation was carried out and she was found guilty.. she was given suspension and she left after few days of the punishment..
I am surprised that they are teaming together to say all these against the person that took care of them for years. God! I can't even imagine what they are thinking about right now.. human being are desperately wicked.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by owunabastard: 1:05pm On Jan 12, 2024
Conner44:
Lies lies and more lies undecided

Just because TB Joshua's wife didn't allow them have her husbands religeous empire. Where are the husbands and wives that left their matrimonial homes on the exchange? Let us see them come out and speak up so we can follow them up from there.

We need evidence. Hard ones. And not "them say - them say"
The truth is that the so call ex worker has a suspicious spirit against TB Joshua before even accepting to work for him
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Akalia(m): 1:07pm On Jan 12, 2024
cucumbar:
TB Joshua was a voodoo master. I’m sure you had not been given birth to when they used to air his program on N, otherwise you won’t put TB Joshua and man of God in the same sentence.

Your spirit is affirming wrongly . As in, wrongest affirmation na I’m your spirit give you.

I was in my early teens then, and could tell that this person’s powers were not of God.
You could tell his powers were not from God you say. So tell me, by what means were you able to tell that his powers were of a dark source, through the same spirit affirmation?
Mind you I was born in the mid 80's.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by RisenObinna: 1:20pm On Jan 12, 2024
TechCapon:
Enough with the lies already. All these worthless disgraceful and disgruntled so called ex-workers and ex-disciples. These lies cannot erase all the good things TB Joshua did during his life. I don't know about the miracles but I know a lot about his philanthropy and passion for empowering the poor. Many young guys are playing football in Europe today because of his sponsorship.
Because neither you or any of your family was a victim. You would have being singing a different song.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by usagee36: 1:24pm On Jan 12, 2024
They will never be an end. All lies
YorubaKinging:
The end is near

Remember we are now in the last days

Satan has come down.

Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and all who choose to believe in his salvation

Most of your Daddy G.Os including one very popular one is a fraud and indeed the devils incarnate.

Don’t be deceived.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by spiSeyi: 1:28pm On Jan 12, 2024
thesicilian:
Don't forget that many witnesses also came up to testify against Jesus at his trial. Did that change the fact that He's the Son of God? Let's learn to apply wisdom in our dealings
None of them had any strong accusation against Jesus to the extent that Pilate was convinced and refused to condemn Jesus and even went further to watch his hands in a bowl but to release him based on the demand of the Jews. The Jews only accused Jesus of wanting to destroy the temple and overturn the government of the Romans. None of Jesus' accusers accused him of any form of inhumane treatment but TBJ was accused of inhumane treatment undecided
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by charlypoker(m): 1:29pm On Jan 12, 2024
money121:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/tb-joshua-made-childless-couples-to-exchange-spouses-ex-worker/%3famp
Very candid comment from someone who has a good Christian upbringing. I can understand from his writeup that TB Joshua was a dark man. his outward appearance is what he used in deceiving people.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Azularis: 1:31pm On Jan 12, 2024
Liar! Super story.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by babamoha(m): 1:31pm On Jan 12, 2024
None without a skeleton in his/ her closet.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by femi4: 1:33pm On Jan 12, 2024
OBTOREPA:
God det see a lot for heaven o
He did terrible stuff while alive
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by femi4: 1:35pm On Jan 12, 2024
thesicilian:
Don't forget that many witnesses also came up to testify against Jesus at his trial. Did that change the fact that He's the Son of God? Let's learn to apply wisdom in our dealings
You are the one with lack of wisdom.

Was Jesus accused of rape, exchange of spouse etc
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by RealIgboboy: 1:36pm On Jan 12, 2024
When I see Redeemed Church, it was a turn off for me, I knew that nothing will ever come out of him. It's not a church but business organization. Nothing good will ever come out from this one. Bros, you are possessed and you need deliverance, shekina!.
money121:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/tb-joshua-made-childless-couples-to-exchange-spouses-ex-worker/%3famp
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by femi4: 1:38pm On Jan 12, 2024
TechCapon:
Enough with the lies already. All these worthless disgraceful and disgruntled so called ex-workers and ex-disciples. These lies cannot erase all the good things TB Joshua did during his life. I don't know about the miracles but I know a lot about his philanthropy and passion for empowering the poor. Many young guys are playing football in Europe today because of his sponsorship.
Because you're not a victim. His dark side cancelled any form of philanthropic action you can think of.
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by November24(f): 1:38pm On Jan 12, 2024
TechCapon:
Enough with the lies already. All these worthless disgraceful and disgruntled so called ex-workers and ex-disciples. These lies cannot erase all the good things TB Joshua did during his life. I don't know about the miracles but I know a lot about his philanthropy and passion for empowering the poor. Many young guys are playing football in Europe today because of his sponsorship.
For u life is all about materialism
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by Azularis: 1:39pm On Jan 12, 2024
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Akjohny:
False allegations...
I know 4 among those testifiers... Agomo.. the man on suit was sent to Ghana as jnr prophet for a program at the branch church... He fell in love with a daughter of a minister. And Tb Joshua told him that he wasn't seeing them getting married that agomo should "take his time to ask God for direction not just you saw a rich lady and you want to marry her " agomo wasn't pleased with the whole thing and started misbehaving in the church especially in carrying out his duties.. few months later the lady died .. TB Joshua called him after several reports about agomo and told him" is like your mind is no longer here", he blessed him spiritually and financially and asked him to go...

Ajoke is not a biological daughter of TB Joshua, she was abandoned at the church entrance and TB Joshua took her to a police station, wrote a report and took care of her from primary to university... She grew up and became rude and arrogant to most of the workers and members, even those old enough to be her parents... I knew her very well because I worked there for 1 nd half year.. she's no where near TB Joshua's daughters in terms of character.

Cloren was a reporter and an Evangelist.. always complaining that she barely sleep for 2hours at night... Bcuz of work, Bible studies and studio work.. I'm a witness to that.. if u r in scoan as an Evangelist.. you should know that you are there for training and whenever your colleagues are working, you can't be sleeping. Every student went through test and examination before graduation.. many who endured today are Wisemen and women doing greatly in ministry.

Lastly Bisola.. the lady with eyes prob
She was brought to the church when she burnt down a whole storey building bcuz of spirit of anger.. whenever she's angry, she destroys things around her .. she said it herself is on Facebook and YouTube.. she was prayed for and she became normal.. she pleaded that TB Joshua should help her, that she doesn't want to go back to the world anymore she cried with tears.. TB Joshua took her in and made her one the head working at foreign visitors department.. going to airport to bring visitors with escorts and taking care of their affairs.. lodging, feeding and words of faith as an encouragement.
One day, a foreign visitor couldn't find some amount of dollars in the briefcase Bisola took in. And the report got to TB Joshua.. investigation was carried out and she was found guilty.. she was given suspension and she left after few days of the punishment..
I am surprised that they are teaming together to say all these against the person that took care of them for years. God! I can't even imagine what they are thinking about right now.. human being are desperately wicked.
Thank you for the information. God bless you .
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by pongwa(m): 1:40pm On Jan 12, 2024
money121:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/punchng.com/tb-joshua-made-childless-couples-to-exchange-spouses-ex-worker/%3famp
only God is fit to judge a man.......

I see a subtle attempt by the op to pit RCCG against this man. Please distance the church from your assertion
Re: TB Joshua Made Childless Couples To Exchange Spouses –ex-worker by BRATISLAVA: 1:46pm On Jan 12, 2024
Why don't they just reveal everything at once about him? This is like Mr COZA.
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