₦airaland Forum

Goodday90:
I went to visit a friend today and he told me that their transformer have been bad for some time and PHCN have come and carried it away and that they said they need to contribute some money to get another transformer,7 million I think
No money no transformer
So this got me thinking,whose responsibility is it to repair/replace these things?

nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

As a result, your local DISCO is owing money, and at least 3 of them have been taken over by the banks. Up till today...many of our DISCOS have not broken even. THREE of them, and I mean three of them, have been taken over by their creditors, one has been taken over defacto by the government.

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.


Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.


This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.


I went to a private school for primary school, and then for secondary school, na government school I go. My school fees in the primary school were at one point three times what I eventually was paying in the government secondary school I went to....yet in the primary school, in over 6 years of being there it was two times I bought exercise book for myself...the second time, because the supplier was late,and I was advised to buy a book...anyway, normal service was resumed in a few days.

When I entered secondary school, I was paying cheap school fees. Guess what......in my six years there I was buying all my exercise books and stationeries and textbooks while there. Something that in my private primary school..they were issuing us textbook.



Let us all pay a cost reflective tarrif.......and you will see your disco provide you with high quality transformer that would last 300 years. Not this one where we pretend power is cheap, and where in some areas half the population thinks it is free of charge. Ok o.

jmoore:
This is one crucial point you have failed to address. Nigerians have been buying transformers, poles, wires for the DISCOS but you keep talking about how Nigerians are not paying the right tariff for darkness supplied. Government is even paying electricity subsidy for the paltry 5,000 megawatts that can't power up to 30 million Nigerians at a time.

Rest with your propaganda!!

nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

As a result, your local DISCO is owing money, and at least 3 of them have been taken over by the banks. Up till today...many of our DISCOS have not broken even. THREE of them, and I mean three of them, have been taken over by their creditors, one has been taken over defacto by the government.

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.


Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.


This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.


I went to a private school for primary school, and then for secondary school, na government school I go. My school fees in the primary school were at one point three times what I eventually was paying in the government secondary school I went to....yet in the primary school, in over 6 years of being there it was two times I bought exercise book for myself...the second time, because the supplier was late,and I was advised to buy a book...anyway, normal service was resumed in a few days.

When I entered secondary school, I was paying cheap school fees. Guess what......in my six years there I was buying all my exercise books and stationeries and textbooks while there. Something that in my private primary school..they were issuing us textbook.



Let us all pay a cost reflective tarrif.......and you will see your disco provide you with high quality transformer that would last 300 years. Not this one where we pretend power is cheap, and where in some areas half the population thinks it is free of charge. Ok o.

nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

As a result, your local DISCO is owing money, and at least 3 of them have been taken over by the banks. Up till today...many of our DISCOS have not broken even. THREE of them, and I mean three of them, have been taken over by their creditors, one has been taken over defacto by the government.

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.


Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.


This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.


I went to a private school for primary school, and then for secondary school, na government school I go. My school fees in the primary school were at one point three times what I eventually was paying in the government secondary school I went to....yet in the primary school, in over 6 years of being there it was two times I bought exercise book for myself...the second time, because the supplier was late,and I was advised to buy a book...anyway, normal service was resumed in a few days.

When I entered secondary school, I was paying cheap school fees. Guess what......in my six years there I was buying all my exercise books and stationeries and textbooks while there. Something that in my private primary school..they were issuing us textbook.



Let us all pay a cost reflective tarrif.......and you will see your disco provide you with high quality transformer that would last 300 years. Not this one where we pretend power is cheap, and where in some areas half the population thinks it is free of charge. Ok o.

nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

As a result, your local DISCO is owing money, and at least 3 of them have been taken over by the banks. Up till today...many of our DISCOS have not broken even. THREE of them, and I mean three of them, have been taken over by their creditors, one has been taken over defacto by the government.

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.


Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.


This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.


I went to a private school for primary school, and then for secondary school, na government school I go. My school fees in the primary school were at one point three times what I eventually was paying in the government secondary school I went to....yet in the primary school, in over 6 years of being there it was two times I bought exercise book for myself...the second time, because the supplier was late,and I was advised to buy a book...anyway, normal service was resumed in a few days.

When I entered secondary school, I was paying cheap school fees. Guess what......in my six years there I was buying all my exercise books and stationeries and textbooks while there. Something that in my private primary school..they were issuing us textbook.



Let us all pay a cost reflective tarrif.......and you will see your disco provide you with high quality transformer that would last 300 years. Not this one where we pretend power is cheap, and where in some areas half the population thinks it is free of charge. Ok o.

Goodday90:
I went to visit a friend today and he told me that their transformer have been bad for some time and PHCN have come and carried it away and that they said they need to contribute some money to get another transformer,7 million I think
No money no transformer
So this got me thinking,whose responsibility is it to repair/replace these things?

Atarakpa:
Who is it responsibility to repair a broken telecom equipment.

nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

As a result, your local DISCO is owing money, and at least 3 of them have been taken over by the banks. Up till today...many of our DISCOS have not broken even. THREE of them, and I mean three of them, have been taken over by their creditors, one has been taken over defacto by the government.

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.


Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.


This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.


I went to a private school for primary school, and then for secondary school, na government school I go. My school fees in the primary school were at one point three times what I eventually was paying in the government secondary school I went to....yet in the primary school, in over 6 years of being there it was two times I bought exercise book for myself...the second time, because the supplier was late,and I was advised to buy a book...anyway, normal service was resumed in a few days.

When I entered secondary school, I was paying cheap school fees. Guess what......in my six years there I was buying all my exercise books and stationeries and textbooks while there. Something that in my private primary school..they were issuing us textbook.



Let us all pay a cost reflective tarrif.......and you will see your disco provide you with high quality transformer that would last 300 years. Not this one where we pretend power is cheap, and where in some areas half the population thinks it is free of charge. Ok o.

MorataFC:
OK you dey wait for NEPA?
You go wait tire

joseph1832:
It's the job of the Disco. Simple. Don't let anyone fool you into contributing money to buy, repair or even replace a transformer.

nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

As a result, your local DISCO is owing money, and at least 3 of them have been taken over by the banks. Up till today...many of our DISCOS have not broken even. THREE of them, and I mean three of them, have been taken over by their creditors, one has been taken over defacto by the government.

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.


Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.


This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.


I went to a private school for primary school, and then for secondary school, na government school I go. My school fees in the primary school were at one point three times what I eventually was paying in the government secondary school I went to....yet in the primary school, in over 6 years of being there it was two times I bought exercise book for myself...the second time, because the supplier was late,and I was advised to buy a book...anyway, normal service was resumed in a few days.

When I entered secondary school, I was paying cheap school fees. Guess what......in my six years there I was buying all my exercise books and stationeries and textbooks while there. Something that in my private primary school..they were issuing us textbook.



Let us all pay a cost reflective tarrif.......and you will see your disco provide you with high quality transformer that would last 300 years. Not this one where we pretend power is cheap, and where in some areas half the population thinks it is free of charge. Ok o.

DivinegiftofGod:
Do consumers have the money to buy a transformer? Abi you think say Dem dey sell transformer for market? It's PHCN of course.

Just go to their office and request for a new one and they'll put you on queue alongside others who had made request and during distribution time they'll supply to the areas that applied for it at once.

Dey play

Fashionlady:
i ve seen an area go 4years without electricity because they were waiting on nepa. I once stayed in an areas with almost everyone on prepared meter and still yet nepa dont even give light. I ve seen an area where the transformer didn’t had any faults but because another one had faults and the residents refused to pay nepa turned off over 4 transformers. This country is truly a hell hole.

Kukutente23:
What is the relationship between a Disco abdicating its responsibility by refusing to provide transformers for its customers and payment of cost reflective tariffs? In strict economic terms, the transformer is a fixed asset of the Disco. No serious business concern waits on its customers to provide fixed asset. If you're blaming the customers for inability of Disco to provide transformers then why blame the customers for also bypassing. It is a simple case of getting back the money they put into the DISCOs in the name of transformer purchase.
However, the fact is that the idea of customers providing transformers and footing the cost of repairs is a relic of the PHCN days when customers took over responsibility of govt since the govt became irresponsible. The DISCOs simply inherited that mindset and have sustained it ever since. It will interest you to know that even during the days of NITEL, customers hardly foot the bill of repairs but corrupt PHCN which birthed the DISCOs will not lift a finger until money was paid.
So instead of writing an apologia to cover the incompetence and inefficiency of the Discos, you should rather advocate for them to live up to the terms of their contracts which is free prepaid metering. They have even ultimately failed in that as well such that customers now pay for their own meters!!

nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

As a result, your local DISCO is owing money, and at least 3 of them have been taken over by the banks. Up till today...many of our DISCOS have not broken even. THREE of them, and I mean three of them, have been taken over by their creditors, one has been taken over defacto by the government.

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.


Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.


This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.


I went to a private school for primary school, and then for secondary school, na government school I go. My school fees in the primary school were at one point three times what I eventually was paying in the government secondary school I went to....yet in the primary school, in over 6 years of being there it was two times I bought exercise book for myself...the second time, because the supplier was late,and I was advised to buy a book...anyway, normal service was resumed in a few days.

When I entered secondary school, I was paying cheap school fees. Guess what......in my six years there I was buying all my exercise books and stationeries and textbooks while there. Something that in my private primary school..they were issuing us textbook.



Let us all pay a cost reflective tarrif.......and you will see your disco provide you with high quality transformer that would last 300 years. Not this one where we pretend power is cheap, and where in some areas half the population thinks it is free of charge. Ok o.

DivinegiftofGod:
Do consumers have the money to buy a transformer? Abi you think say Dem dey sell transformer for market? It's PHCN of course.

Just go to their office and request for a new one and they'll put you on queue alongside others who had made request and during distribution time they'll supply to the areas that applied for it at once.

jmoore:
This is one crucial point you have failed to address. Nigerians have been buying transformers, poles, wires for the DISCOS but you keep talking about how Nigerians are not paying the right tariff for darkness supplied. Government is even paying electricity subsidy for the paltry 5,000 megawatts that can't power up to 30 million Nigerians at a time.

Rest with your propaganda!!

Ashibelieve:
The real question is why are people not paying?

Answer: Electricity is not regular.

Solution: Customers want stable electricity before they will be ready to pay.

Challenge of this: Discos can't afford the cost of providing quality service to customers and setup checks and balances before they start asking customers to pay market price.

Final remark: You don't get into business and tell customers to frontload your minimum coat to offer a good product or service before doing that. It remains Discos and whoever are underestimating the cost of doing business and providing efficient service before asking customers to pay for it or they are stock with the government mindset of doing business and supporting the business on subsidy and citizens payment

Regardless:
You're absolutely right. But let's ask ourselves, what's the purchasing power of Nigerians?

There are people still collecting less than the minimum wage, you expect those people to pay cost reflective tariff? If the country was working, one should be able to pay for electricity even if you are receiving minimum wage.

Let's also not forget that these DISCOS favour estimated bills to giving prepaid meters because they make more money with estimated billings.

microgiant:
According to nairalanda1 you should pay to enable them give you transformer, because that is what he did with the GSM companies. He was paying till they had enough cash to buy and install the GSM equipment to enable him make calls.

DivinegiftofGod:
Do consumers have the money to buy a transformer? Abi you think say Dem dey sell transformer for market? It's PHCN of course.

Just go to their office and request for a new one and they'll put you on queue alongside others who had made request and during distribution time they'll supply to the areas that applied for it at once.

jmoore:
This is one crucial point you have failed to address. Nigerians have been buying transformers, poles, wires for the DISCOS but you keep talking about how Nigerians are not paying the right tariff for darkness supplied. Government is even paying electricity subsidy for the paltry 5,000 megawatts that can't power up to 30 million Nigerians at a time.

Rest with your propaganda!!

microgiant:
According to nairalanda1 you should pay to enable them to give you a transformer because that is what he did with the GSM companies. He was paying till they had enough cash to buy and install the GSM equipment to enable him to make calls.

Lifemanage:
Good analysis. But why govt no want them to charge cost reflective tarriffs

nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

...

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.

Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.

This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.

....

InvertedHammer:
/
Why are they not supplying electric meters and ensuring adequate supply of electricity? Combine poor services with estimated billings and you will see why even Angel Gabriel would not want to pay for electricity.

/

GloriousGbola:
And After you replace the transformer, you will be told it is the property of the disco.