MadamExcellency:


Nairaland1's understanding of politics, economy and social welfare is poor and riddled with ignorance. Ask him how much the GENCOs sell the highly subsidized one kilowatt of power to DISCOs before giving the DISCOs the free-to-charge arbitrarily. Cost control is perfect when a commodity is subsidized. Imagine asking Petrol Stations to sell any price they like when the government is subsidizing the products.

Nairaland1 is out of this world when it comes to leadership and service. Such people should not be allowed to taste power.

nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

As a result, your local DISCO is owing money, and at least 3 of them have been taken over by the banks. Up till today...many of our DISCOS have not broken even. THREE of them, and I mean three of them, have been taken over by their creditors, one has been taken over defacto by the government.

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.


Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.


This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.


I went to a private school for primary school, and then for secondary school, na government school I go. My school fees in the primary school were at one point three times what I eventually was paying in the government secondary school I went to....yet in the primary school, in over 6 years of being there it was two times I bought exercise book for myself...the second time, because the supplier was late,and I was advised to buy a book...anyway, normal service was resumed in a few days.

When I entered secondary school, I was paying cheap school fees. Guess what......in my six years there I was buying all my exercise books and stationeries and textbooks while there. Something that in my private primary school..they were issuing us textbook.



Let us all pay a cost reflective tarrif.......and you will see your disco provide you with high quality transformer that would last 300 years. Not this one where we pretend power is cheap, and where in some areas half the population thinks it is free of charge. Ok o.

soccerlite:


You and this your stupid leftest propaganda

You don't have anything to say than nigerians are not paying enough

Devil

89green:


That guy is just offpoint, beating around the bush. He couldn't just address the point.

Goodday90:
I went to visit a friend today and he told me that their transformer have been bad for some time and PHCN have come and carried it away and that they said they need to contribute some money to get another transformer,7 million I think
No money no transformer
So this got me thinking,whose responsibility is it to repair/replace these things?

MadamExcellency:


Nairaland1's understanding of politics, economy and social welfare is poor and riddled with ignorance. Ask him how much the GENCOs sell the highly subsidized one kilowatt of power to DISCOs before giving the DISCOs the free-to-charge arbitrarily. Cost control is perfect when a commodity is subsidized. Imagine asking Petrol Stations to sell any price they like when the government is subsidizing the products.

Nairaland1 is out of this world when it comes to leadership and service. Such people should not be allowed to taste power.

89green:


Is that also why we are yet to have 247 electricity since 1960s till date
Just beating around the bush and failing to address the main point. There is nothing like cost reflective tarriff.

DivinegiftofGod:
Do consumers have the money to buy a transformer? Abi you think say Dem dey sell transformer for market?[b][/b] It's PHCN of course.

Just go to their office and request for a new one and they'll put you on queue alongside others who had made request and during distribution time they'll supply to the areas that applied for it at once.

TYCO77:


Transformer can be easily purchased in the market if you have the fund, however it is the responsibility of electricity distribution companies to replace or repair their damaged or faulty transformer.

Kinzo0917:


That means they won't have light in years to come

Individuals do sell transformers. I ve seen places in abuja were transformers are sold

When our transformer got spoil in warri, people have to contribute money to buy new one

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You saw where the op said they were asked to contribute 7 million for a transformer .

In Nigeria, consumers buy Transformers !

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nairalanda1:
Ideally, it is the job of the local DISCO, not the job of PHCN. PHCN does not exist. Discos and gencos and TCN have replaced it.

But as to why consumers contribute...this one is easy.


Nigerians are not paying cost reflective tarrifs for electricity. Additionally, over 30% of us do not pay for the power we use.(If you think I am lying...google for the PwC report Solving the Liquidity crunch in the power sector).

As a result, your local DISCO is owing money, and at least 3 of them have been taken over by the banks. Up till today...many of our DISCOS have not broken even. THREE of them, and I mean three of them, have been taken over by their creditors, one has been taken over defacto by the government.

Why...because Nigerians do not want to pay their power bills at market price. We think we must have power for free.


Meanwhile, GSM companies, if the antenna spoil, dem go replace am. Your local provision store owner, if he runs out of milk today, he will replace it within a few hours, if not tomorrow latest....because they are allowed to do something the power sector is not allowed to do. Sell at market price.


This is the result of not letting DISCO set prices.....you will be asked to contribute for your generator.


I went to a private school for primary school, and then for secondary school, na government school I go. My school fees in the primary school were at one point three times what I eventually was paying in the government secondary school I went to....yet in the primary school, in over 6 years of being there it was two times I bought exercise book for myself...the second time, because the supplier was late,and I was advised to buy a book...anyway, normal service was resumed in a few days.

When I entered secondary school, I was paying cheap school fees. Guess what......in my six years there I was buying all my exercise books and stationeries and textbooks while there. Something that in my private primary school..they were issuing us textbook.



Let us all pay a cost reflective tarrif.......and you will see your disco provide you with high quality transformer that would last 300 years. Not this one where we pretend power is cheap, and where in some areas half the population thinks it is free of charge. Ok o.

Mandate1:
so all the houses in Nigeria with prepaid meters are not paying cost reflective Tarrif? Make una dey play.

Mandate1:
so all the houses in Nigeria with prepaid meters are not paying cost reflective Tarrif? Make una dey play.

kashmoneyz:
Apt

obesse:


Chai! This one loud gan!!!!!!
Nairalanda1 just dey display his ignorance upandan!
1. He who knows and proves that he knows is a sage; follow him.
2. He who does not know and admits that he does not know, is uneducated; teach him
3. But he who does not know, and tries to prove that he knows is a fool, ignore him!
Shikenan!!

nairalanda1:


That's the fact, and I am not lying.

Power supply is divided into bands, Band A-d. Band A gets 18-20 hours of supply, Band D gets less than 6 hours...and Band A pays higher per kwh than Band B and so forth

And yes, we don't pay cost reflective tarrif. That's why government is paying subsides to the power sector up till date.

Rating:


You wrote well. However, let's add more perspective:

1. Nigeria is supposedly a rich country, where the resources of our commonwealth have been squandered by those entrusted with leadership,
2. That has led to poverty in the land (which is being weaponised in different ways).

3. Let's not forget that people have been buying transformers themselves (and paying the officials to install them) in the days of NEPA and PHCN

4. Let's not also forget the days of estimated billings. They were fleecing the populace like no man's business - maybe it went to private purses or government, no one can be sure.

5. No one (should) expect power to be free - anywhere in the world. And we also don't have to pay through our nose for electricity.

6. For the telcos, some will remember that they had very high billings in the early days of their operation in Nigeria. Some will also remember that they invested heavily in the emerging industry. Why have the DISCOs (and by extension, TCN and the GENCOs) not invested heavily in the industry? Why has foreign investors not embraced the local companies and make things better despite all the reforms in that sector?

7. People will pay when they see value. This is common practice - even in Nigeria.

8. Finally, when the leaders feel the heat that the masses feel, instead of making the AC work for all, they serve only themselves. Anyone who now expects the populace to not reject further billings in any way possible is just being hypocritical.

MadamExcellency:


Nairaland1's understanding of politics, economy and social welfare is poor and riddled with ignorance. Ask him how much the GENCOs sell the highly subsidized one kilowatt of power to DISCOs before giving the DISCOs the free-to-charge arbitrarily. Cost control is perfect when a commodity is subsidized. Imagine asking Petrol Stations to sell any price they like when the government is subsidizing the products.

Nairaland1 is out of this world when it comes to leadership and service. Such people should not be allowed to taste power.

missionmex:

This is half truth.
Let them supply the inhabitants with prepaid meters and make a law that punishes offender's and see if they will not make their money. They are only scared of investing in prepaid meters that would have helped in this case.

Kukutente23:

What is the relationship between a Disco abdicating its responsibility by refusing to provide transformers for its customers and payment of cost reflective tariffs? In strict economic terms, the transformer is a fixed asset of the Disco. No serious business concern waits on its customers to provide fixed asset. If you're blaming the customers for inability of Disco to provide transformers then why blame the customers for also bypassing. It is a simple case of getting back the money they put into the DISCOs in the name of transformer purchase.
However, the fact is that the idea of customers providing transformers and footing the cost of repairs is a relic of the PHCN days when customers took over responsibility of govt since the govt became irresponsible. The DISCOs simply inherited that mindset and have sustained it ever since. It will interest you to know that even during the days of NITEL, customers hardly foot the bill of repairs but corrupt PHCN which birthed the DISCOs will not lift a finger until money was paid.
So instead of writing an apologia to cover the incompetence and inefficiency of the Discos, you should rather advocate for them to live up to the terms of their contracts which is free prepaid metering. They have even ultimately failed in that as well such that customers now pay for their own meters!!

soccerlite:


You and this your stupid leftest propaganda

You don't have anything to say than nigerians are not paying enough

Devil

nairalanda1:


If it makes you feel better, and sleep at night, continue.

Mandate1:
what is our minimum wage? How do you expect people earning little or nothing pay this cost reflective Tarrif?

The least worker in UK earn £10.42 per hour. That's about #10, 000. If he works 5hrs per day, he earns £50 which is about #50, 000 per day. In 20 working days, dats about #1,000, 000.

Electricity on average is £60 per month. So compare notes sir and see that Nigerians are even paying more.

How can I earn #30, 000 per month and you expect me to pay cost reflective tariff? Àbi na wetin be dat ur grammar again.

Mandate1:
what is our minimum wage? How do you expect people earning little or nothing pay this cost reflective Tarrif?

The least worker in UK earn £10.42 per hour. That's about #10, 000. If he works 5hrs per day, he earns £50 which is about #50, 000 per day. In 20 working days, dats about #1,000, 000.

Electricity on average is £60 per month. So compare notes sir and see that Nigerians are even paying more.

How can I earn #30, 000 per month and you expect me to pay cost reflective tariff? Àbi na wetin be dat ur grammar again.

obesse:

Stop calling black white. Stop calling red green. Shikenan!

nairalanda1:


And, on a personal note, your abusiveness does not speak well of you.

Good evening. I hate to do this, but you are a little abusive, and nasty. I am sure you are not like that in real life.

You do not need to lose your head over simple facts.

obesse:

What facts do you know?
I own a prepaid meter and I am charged 67 Naira per unit. I load between 6,000 to 7000 Naira monthly, enough to power everything I use, including my pumping machine. On the other hand, the landlord next to my house does not have a prepaid meter. He receives a bill of 55,000 Naira monthly; and we are on the same transformer, using the same electric pole!
Is that just?
How can you defend your paymasters in this scenario?

nairalanda1:


Sorry, but I am no longer responding to you, because you are abusive and a bully.

Tis good night from me.