Brendaniel:


This mindset is why Nigeria is the way it is today, they have turned Nigeria to turn by turn Nigeria ltd, no patriotism to the country anymore, and people like you want the country to get better with such an arrangement....

its not a Nigeria mindset. Its a global mindset.
Try doing university politics and see.
You'll notice those who have better relationships with the students gets the highest votes compared to that reserved individual who's very intelligent and is most likely the most competent.
Don't get me wrong, obi ain't the most competent though.

jumper524:
its not a Nigeria mindset. Its a global mindset.
Try doing university politics and see.
You'll notice those who have better relationships with the students gets the highest votes compared to that reserved individual who's very intelligent and is most likely the most competent.
Don't get me wrong, obi ain't the most competent though.

Obi is the most competent among the 3 major candidates, I never ruled out relationship with the people as an advantage, what I am saying is that, when politicians turn help me I help you regardless of the type of characters and personalities they are striking the deals with is why Nigeria is where it is today...

They strike deals with the devil and have to pay the devil and the people end up suffering, like the case of Buhari and Tinubu,

Brendaniel:


Obi is the most competent among the 3 major candidates, I never ruled out relationship with the people as an advantage, what I am saying is that, when politicians turn help me I help you regardless of the type of characters and personalities they are striking the deals with is why Nigeria is where it is today...

They strike deals with the devil and have to pay the devil and the people end up suffering, like the case of Buhari and Tinubu,

Nigeria is where it is today largely due to the problems of Nigeria and less about politicians.
Politicians behaviours in Nigeria is largely similar to politicians across the world.
They all apply policies to their interest and also compromise when their interest is at stake. They loot, and yes they sometimes abuse their office, its same standard everywhere. Oppositions always have the solutions as opposition but then look dumbfounded when elected.
But what's different is the behaviour of the people.
The Nigeria factor of aways shying away from our real problem. Shying away from these real problems is what has led us to where we are.
Subsidy has always been our problem in the past but then with I inclusive criticised Jonathan for the partial removal of the said subsidy.
The act continued and was eating our budget gradually till 90% and there's no way out then it had to be removed at the most difficult time.
Now one of the consequences of our action is what we're facing right now.
Instead of facing it squarely so we won't have a growing liability in the future, oppositions, stakeholders are encouraging us to go back to the previous system of subsidy rather than raising campaign awareness to defend the poor naira.
I don't blame you for always criticising Tinubu. Someday your party would rule and you'll see the same problem is still not ending. Maybe then you'll understand why I too regret criticising Jonathan govt.

jumper524:
Nigeria is where it is today largely due to the problems of Nigeria and less about politicians.
Politicians behaviours in Nigeria is largely similar to politicians across the world.
They all apply policies to their interest and also compromise when their interest is at stake. They loot, and yes they sometimes abuse their office, its same standard everywhere. Oppositions always have the solutions as opposition but then look dumbfounded when elected.
But what's different is the behaviour of the people.
The Nigeria factor of aways shying away from our real problem. Shying away from these real problems is what has led us to where we are.
Subsidy has always been our problem in the past but then with I inclusive criticised Jonathan for the partial removal of the said subsidy.
The act continued and was eating our budget gradually till 90% and there's no way out then it had to be removed at the most difficult time.
Now one of the consequences of our action is what we're facing right now.
Instead of facing it squarely so we won't have a growing liability in the future, oppositions, stakeholders are encouraging us to go back to the previous system of subsidy rather than raising campaign awareness to defend the poor naira.
I don't blame you for always criticising Tinubu. Someday your party would rule and you'll see the same problem is still not ending. Maybe then you'll understand why I too regret criticising Jonathan govt.

So you mean that Canadian and American politicians loot like the Nigerian politicians?

Brendaniel:


So you mean that Canadian and American politicians loot like the Nigerian politicians?

what I mean is that they'll be regarded in same category as Nigerian politicians if they were Nigerians.

seanfer:
OP let's be serious and leave bias or politics out of this... Both Tinubu and Obi spent 8 years as Governor can you please tell us who is a better governor between the 2?

What legacy projects or investments the 2 left in their states that the state is still making huge dividends from?

How did the 2 of them met their states IGR, and what did they do to generate more revenue for their respective states?

After answering these questions then you should know who you will employ to manage your fathers moribund company,

Oga with what Tinubu has achieved in his few months as president it's obvious that if the fates were changed and Tinubu was the governor of Anambra and Peter obi was governor of Lagos as at the time Tinubu met it, the difference in governance would be clear.

Peter obi in governance Tinubu doesn't come close.

Lagos had a monopoly over many things in Nigeria, from airport to seaport to many things, when u have a monopoly u decide price.

Look at ECOWAS, ECOWAS is like a mini Nigeria, now that Nigeria isn't strategically located by Lagos, why can't Tinubu perform his so called miracle.

Jonathan 6years in government dollar only increased by #20 and this was caused by Apc, cause okonjo iweala advocated we save for rainy days but Apc politicians said we should empty our external crude reserve which caused it.

Tinubu hold to power is backed by corruption and not merit, when the head is corrupt don't expect anything to change.

This is going to be another 8years of fake statistics and propaganda.

They already started where they said 62% of nigerians are happy with his government, 62% that cannot feed, that both them and their whole families are trekking.

Another wasted 8years.

Brendaniel:
Your Father's company was in dire need of a good manager and your father entrusted you to help him get a good manager to handle his company...

A close friend of yours brought someone to manage your father's business, after the first 4 years he failed to manage the business well, your friend then advised you to keep him for another 4 years that he will revive the business, after 4 years again he incurred so much debt.

Your close friend then comes to tell you that the reason why he sent that guy to manage your father's business was because he wanted to manage your father's business after 8 years of that guys turn that damaged your fathers business that it is his turn to manage your father's business, he further told you that that was the agreement he had with the guy he brought to manage your father's business for 8 years that ended up destroying your father's business ...

This question is to Tinubu supporters:

would you give your friend your father's business to manage after knowing all these?

If your answer is no, then you are heartless, wicked, unpatriotic, you hate Nigeria and Nigerians, you have no pity for Nigeria and Nigerians, you don't even believe in Nigeria because you voted or supported Tinubu who did exactly what your close friend did to your father's business, if you cannot allow such a friend to handle your father's company after doing exactly what Tinubu did to Nigeria....

Why then did you allow/support Tinubu to handle Nigeria after doing the same thing to Nigeria as your friend did to your father's company?


And if your answer is yes, then you are as bad as your close friend and your father should not entrust anything in that company to you likewise as you supported Tinubu, Nigerians should not entrust anything to you....

. Haaa

jumper524:
what I mean is that they'll be regarded in same category as Nigerian politicians if they were Nigerians.

Oga, they are not corrupt like our Nigerian politicians, corrupt politicians are the major cause of bad leadership in Nigeria, don't try to defend the Nigerian politicians....

Do you still support the ruling government?

seanfer:
OP let's be serious and leave bias or politics out of this... Both Tinubu and Obi spent 8 years as Governor can you please tell us who is a better governor between the 2?

What legacy projects or investments the 2 left in their states that the state is still making huge dividends from?

How did the 2 of them met their states IGR, and what did they do to generate more revenue for their respective states?

After answering these questions then you should know who you will employ to manage your fathers moribund company,

Kentursky:
Obi is a faux pas. I am from Anambra state and I can confidently tell you that Nigeria dodged a bullet in Obi.

You can be from anywhere else but definitely not Anambra.

Nigeria lost a golden opportunity with OBI, but received a nuclear bomb with tinubu

Sangoamadioha1:





You hardly argue based on fact but by some skewed sentiments.
The guy gave you facts to access both Tinubu and Peter Obi’s tenure as governors but instead you are ranting. Compare the both their tenure without bias and you will see why some people voted Tinubu.
My own is that Atiku, Tinubu and Peter Obi are all of the same stock. We would be experiencing the same things if Atiku or Peter Obi were there.

You are a lair

seanfer:
OP let's be serious and leave bias or politics out of this... Both Tinubu and Obi spent 8 years as Governor can you please tell us who is a better governor between the 2?

What legacy projects or investments the 2 left in their states that the state is still making huge dividends from?

How did the 2 of them met their states IGR, and what did they do to generate more revenue for their respective states?

After answering these questions then you should know who you will employ to manage your fathers moribund company,

Tinubu did absolutely nothing in Lagos, except for the choice of a successor like fashola and ambode.

The achievements of PETER OBI in Anambra state is excellent and glorious.

CHECK OUT ALL THESE
✅ education
✅. Health
✅ good roads
✅ economy
✅ industrialization
✅ promotion of private businesses
✅ financial reserve
✅ human resources management
✅. Community development
✅ waec and jamb performance
✅ infact every area of development

YOU CAN GO AND CONFIRM

DON'T SEAT IN ONE STATE AND BE TALKING OF A PLACE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ALL YOUR LIFE.

IF OBI HAD THE RESOURCES OF LAGOS IN ANAMBRA, OH MY GOD THE STATE WOULD HAVE BEEN WAOOOOH.

You are not wise, can you explain why Yoruba voted Azikwe ahead of Awolowo then ?

Did they vote Azikwe back then when Lagos had little or no Igbo population out of tribalism ?

Brendaniel:


That's what I'm telling you if we did not vote a whole Ojukwu and chose Obasanjo, how then do you call us tribalistic people?

You are clown 🤡 really

Justnation:



Tinubu did absolutely nothing in Lagos, except for the choice of a successor like fashola and ambode.

The achievements of PETER OBI in Anambra state is excellent and glorious.

CHECK OUT ALL THESE
✅ education
Tinubu that built millennium school across the state while obi built none, Tinubu paid busary, increase welfare package n salary to teachers while obi owed teas salary over a year, couldn't pay minimum wage n increased tuition over 300% go n verify.

✅. Health


✅ good roads
✅ economy
✅ industrialization
✅ promotion of private businesses
✅ financial reserve
✅ human resources management
✅. Community development
✅ waec and jamb performance
✅ infact every area of development

YOU CAN GO AND CONFIRM

DON'T SEAT IN ONE STATE AND BE TALKING OF A PLACE YOU HAVE NEVER BEEN TO ALL YOUR LIFE.

IF OBI HAD THE RESOURCES OF LAGOS IN ANAMBRA, OH MY GOD THE STATE WOULD HAVE BEEN WAOOOOH.

obawinner:

Your definition of 'best candidates' has not showed in any metrics of success for 5 SE states in 7 political dispensation. yet, you keep spewing hatred of other region leaders day and night who had done execellently well for who they governed.

If your forebearers are not blaming Awolowo, Akintola, Gowon for their woes, you the present will be pushing hatred on El rufai, Tinubu, fashola, buhari.

Dont stop, more hatred will be yours.

I love your 2nd to the last paragraph.
Screenshot already

NextAbuja:
You are not wise, can you explain why Yoruba voted Azikwe ahead of Awolowo then ?

Did they vote Azikwe back then when Lagos had little or no Igbo population out of tribalism ?

Can you please show the data evidence that Yorubas voted Azikiwe instead of Awolowo?

seanfer:
OP let's be serious and leave bias or politics out of this... Both Tinubu and Obi spent 8 years as Governor can you please tell us who is a better governor between the 2?

What legacy projects or investments the 2 left in their states that the state is still making huge dividends from?

How did the 2 of them met their states IGR, and what did they do to generate more revenue for their respective states?

After answering these questions then you should know who you will employ to manage your fathers moribund company,

If they ask you what Tinubu’s achievement as a governor is then u will start listing
Fashola
Ambode
Sanwo Olu’s achievements…

The reason why most of you hail and call Tinubu jagaban is the only problem of godfatherism holding a state by the jugular, that has eaten deep into the fabric of Nigeria political system

Look at Wike now ? Yet you are clapping for him

Thislifesef:
what I don't understand about this matter is, is it the same Peter obi that was discussed on this thread you are talking about or another one?
https://www.nairaland.com/870945/what-exactly-peter-obi-doing

i wonder. i guess its another Peter Obi

ovieigho:


If they ask you what Tinubu’s achievement as a governor is then u will start listing
Fashola
Ambode
Sanwo Olu’s achievements…

The reason why most of you hail and call Tinubu jagaban is the only problem of godfatherism holding a state by the jugular, that has eaten deep into the fabric of Nigeria political system

Look at Wike now ? Yet you are clapping for him

If "God fatherism" bring s progress than the absence of it, then I stand with it

NextAbuja:
You are clown 🤡 really

Leave excuse
Obi has no capacity
Dave Umahi did better with less resources

jogojogo:


If "God fatherism" bring s progress than the absence of it, then I stand with it

It’s a Nigerians thing

Person will kill and do give-away the next day and his sins will be forgiven

If they did not how did NCNC had more vote

Brendaniel:


Can you please show the data evidence that Yorubas voted Azikiwe instead of Awolowo?

NextAbuja:
If they did not how did NCNC had more vote

Oga this does not show regional votes, it is like me claiming that Tinubu and Buhari got more votes because Igbos voted for them....

Please provide the votes by region......

I have read countless comments here, i want you to know that in politics all these your nonsense analogy don't count.
Tinubu is a visionary politician who has ambition to become president for over two decades, being calculative , he saw an opportunity that PDP can be dethroned in 2015 and formed and uncomfortable merger with a bigot like Buhari , but also refuse to leave the party after all the sideline they did to him.
2023 his only opponent was Atiku and to weaken him he send someone to lure Obi to contest, for those that don't know politics Tinubu never for one day see Obi as opposition, Obi is a mere distraction, Obi took the bait and weaken Atiku votes and Tinubu rode to victory.

That is politics not all these your beer parlor analogy

Go n find the regional vote n I will show you once you provide it.

Brendaniel:


Oga this does not show regional votes, it is like me claiming that Tinubu and Buhari got more votes because Igbos voted for them....

Please provide the votes by region......

NextAbuja:
Go n find the regional vote n I will show you once you provide it.

Why do you Tinubu supporters behave like this? this is not the first time, you people reason alike.

It is like you telling me you have a car and I asked you to show me the car then you tell me to go and find the car, is it my Job or your Job to prove what you claim ?

I now see why you people can be supporting people like Buhari and Tinubu, sometimes I feel so ashamed sharing country with people that reason like this.

You told me Yoruba's voted for Azikiwe, I said you should show me the votes by region, you are now telling me to find what I didn't claim to have seen but you claimed to have seen.

You see how you guys keep lying and trying to distort history for tribal agenda....

Show me the regional votes and prove me wrong once and for all....

LOVEALAIGBO:


There was a comparison made before the so called ‘elections’, that showed developmental indices between how Anambra and Lagos improved after the 8 years of Obi and Tinubu governance in their states. HDIs for Anambra after Obi improved much more than those for Lagos after Tinubu!

One thing we’re all in agreement about is that even Goofy could ‘govern’ Lagos or Nigeria and they could still blag that they ‘performed’! But any misgovernance in states like Anambra, Abia, Ekiti, Osun, Kogi, etc, will show and the impact felt immediately! Lagos and Nigeria can get away with propaganda more easily than the aforementioned states!

For your own sanity, stop arguing with these Tinubu supporter, they will make you look stupid like them. I stopped arguing with them for long. Giving the resource and position box Lagos, even a kid can govern Lagos. Lagos should be in pair with places like Dubia, comparing Lagos and Anambra state mean that those who governed Lagos in the past all failed.

Again, for your sanity, stop arguing with Tinubu supporters.

seanfer:


Okay please can you give reasons Obi's 8 years is better in human capital development than Tinubu's 8 years as a governor?

1. Lagos and Anambra economy cannot be compared in terms of industrialization and human capital before both became governors. Tinubu have been indirectly ruling Ekiti and Osun for ages why are those states not like Lagos.

2. Tinubu is known to be a corrupt person but little or nothing is known about Obi in terms of corruption during their rule.

3. Obi made Anambra an exporter of agricultural products, he saved money in states account, unlike Tinubu that will loot it and share among his cronies.

Lastly, if you continue doing the same thing the same way you will only get the same results. Meaning, let another person out of APC manage my father's business for me to see.

If at this time n age you do not know that NCNC won all the 6 seat allocated to in the Western Assembly then you should not be doing any debate on the topic.

Brendaniel:

Why do you Tinubu supporters behave like this? this is not the first time, you people reason alike.

It is like you telling me you have a car and I asked you to show me the car then you tell me to go and find the car, is it my Job or your Job to prove what you claim ?

I now see why you people can be supporting people like Buhari and Tinubu, sometimes I feel so ashamed sharing country with people that reason like this.

You told me Yoruba's voted for Azikiwe, I said you should show me the votes by region, you are now telling me to find what I didn't claim to have seen but you claimed to have seen.

You see how you guys keep lying and trying to distort history for tribal agenda....

Show me the regional votes and prove me wrong once and for all....

Same you that list WAEC written by student not known by Obi as his achievement ?

Same oobi that didn't build a single school, increase tuition by over 300%, refuse to pay teachers over a year salary yet you have audacity to credit him with such claim but you don't want tunubu that laid the foundation with Alpha Beta KAI RRS LASRAA Eko Atlantic, Lekki Seaport, Abraham Adesanya Estate etc

ovieigho:


If they ask you what Tinubu’s achievement as a governor is then u will start listing
Fashola
Ambode
Sanwo Olu’s achievements…

The reason why most of you hail and call Tinubu jagaban is the only problem of godfatherism holding a state by the jugular, that has eaten deep into the fabric of Nigeria political system

Look at Wike now ? Yet you are clapping for him

You people say the most foolish claim ever, Tinubu is ruling Ekiti n Osun. Just imagine your father reading this n thinking what a foolish entity he gave birth to ?
How is Tinubu rulling Ekiti n Osun state ?

2. Tinubu is know with corruption yet

A. Tunubu was not caught with over ₦250 million looted monthly like Peter Obi verify this with Marvel Akpoyibo then Lagos commissioner of police that caught him red handed
B. Tunubu never built malls with state fund like Obi sis in Abuja UK n PH.

C. Tunubu investment in Econet earned Lagos billion while Obi billion naira invested in Orient Petroleum and Brewery as all dissappered with his cronies into thing air

D. Was Lagos under Marwa the 4th largest economy in Africa ? That is the midas touch if Tinubu. Under Marwa dead bodies litter stret if Lagos I know this cos I was a Lagosian live along Ikorodu express n dead bodies hit by cars litters the road for weeks before it is picked that is not the case after Tinubu.

Finally I wonder how brain dead one as to just to compare a success like Tinubu to a failure like Peter Peter Obi.

The Foolish failure you claim to be a saint as been caught repeatedly looting but every you come up with lies if being a saint when facts are tender you end up claiming he is a less thief but only the bastard was caught red handed looting ₦250 million.

infofta:


1. Lagos and Anambra economy cannot be compared in terms of industrialization and human capital before both became governors. Tinubu have been indirectly ruling Ekiti and Osun for ages why are those states not like Lagos.

2. Tinubu is known to be a corrupt person but little or nothing is known about Obi in terms of corruption during their rule.

3. Obi made Anambra an exporter of agricultural products, he saved money in states account, unlike Tinubu that will loot it and share among his cronies.

Lastly, if you continue doing the same thing the same way you will only get the same results. Meaning, let another person out of APC manage my father's business for me to see.

NextAbuja:
If at this time n age you do not know that NCNC won all the 6 seat allocated to in the Western Assembly then you should not be doing any debate on the topic.

You have not still provided your proof....