EdoBoy90:
Shut up. You are still a kid.

How can you compare COS to a Speaker? COS is more powerful and better. Speaker can be easily impeached.

I don't have time for empty blockheads. So fvck off!

Tjra:
Pastor Adeboye of RCCG visited Portharcourt yesterday. He held a rally at the stadium and the number of dignitaries (Fubara, Peter Obi, Tonye Cole, Adeboye, etc.) having chitchats got me thinking aloud.

1. Adeboye: Most Obidients hate him because he didn't opening support their candidate. He has always been non-partisan which is good. His mandate is evangelism not Politics.

2. Peter Obi: His supporters hate Adeboye yet he came to the programme all the way from Anambra. He sees the man as a Father and is always happy to be around him. What an irony!

3. Fubara: He gave a brief welcome speech. He specially acknowledged the presence of Tonye Cole. He also dedicated his election victory to God. And sort the cooperation of everyone including his opponent in leading the state.

4. Tony Cole: He gave a Testimony and thanksgiving speech. He accepted his fate and he is Happy to work with Tonye Cole to move the state forward.

These big men wine and dine behind closed doors and even in the open. Yet, the impoverished populace keep fighting themselves over ethnic or political affiliations.

You are correct, l watched the programme, l realised from the programme that Peter Obi has so much respect for pastor Adeboye but the online bandits called obidense need hypo to remove hatred, bitterness and lack of respect for elders from their head.
Now, they behave as if they didn't see how Peter Obi listened to pastor Adeboye with keen interest and responded to his prayers passionately

dangoteinlaw:
Mumu governor, wike is just waiting for his term to be over there he will teach him a lesson. This one should forget about 2nd term.

that is it, he shld not think of second term again. And this is why Wike didn't interfere with Supreme Court judgement to allow Fubara complete his tenure.

aribisala0:

Did Buhari want Gambari to be powerful?

Like I said before, the COS is as powerful as his boss wants him. Some other appointees are even more influential in some governments. Hope you remember who Tunde Sabiu was in Buhari's government?

Indispensable85:
My guy governors unseat speakers because the assembly is dependent on them for funding. They use that to get members on their side to impeach the speaker. I repeat again, if we have autonomy for state assembly and they are in charge of their funds, you'll see how powerful the speaker is. Just let their monies come directly from FAAC and see power display.

You are using the word if

We are talking about today, now. Who will even give the legislature autonomy? If you are elected Governor today, you will be the first to cry against it.

One, even from the SUG, you are taught how to control your Speaker. That is the first task of any Governor, so for today, nobody will give the legislatures in Nigeria their own funding. Even the Judiciary that Buhari allowed, the Angry Governors went to the Supreme Court and won. That's why I said Nigeria is no utopia.

Before any small quarrel governor don sieze their money, like Fubara did. That's the only thing the governors are blackmailing them with. An independent assembly can cut the governor to size. I'm telling you bro.

Who will make the Assembly independent?

Patriotic9ja:
Hope he took permission from his boss b4 this appointment?

NO

Indispensable85:



Like I said before, the COS is as powerful as his boss wants him. Some other appointees are even more influential in some governments. Hope you remember who Tunde Sabiu was in Buhari's government?

Did Buhari want Gambari to be powerful?
You said also Buhari was weak
Was he weak with Gamnbari?

BondRiv:


Ignorance is bliss. Why will I choose to be a staff in the executive branch, when I can be the head of the legislative branch? Brain cells of the corrupt. Perhaps you feel you can loot more in the chief of Staff's office.

In terms of power, the Speaker is more powerful and his office is created by the constitution, like that of the governor
Get it into your skull that there are protocols in accessing public office holders. You don't just wake up and barge into their office. Whether they have a glorified assistant called the Chief of Staff or not.

Honestly, I sincerely regret ever trying to engaged a numskull, who is at a very deplorable poor state of intellectual & cognitive powress. I had thought, you were a bit lettered & redeemable, but alas! you sounds so pitiably empty and uninformed far below and even the least of an average nitwit. Perhaps still in primary 1 or 2, I won't be any surprise.
What is above you, will forever be beyond you.
Locate your kind to banter with next time.
I rarely have time for untrained/foolish kids

fergie001:
You are using the word if

We are talking about today, now. Who will even give the legislature autonomy? If you are elected Governor today, you will be the first to cry against it.

One, even from the SUG, you are taught how to control your Speaker. That is the first task of any Governor, so for today, nobody will give the legislatures in Nigeria their own funding. Even the Judiciary that Buhari allowed, the Angry Governors went to the Supreme Court and won. That's why I said Nigeria is no utopia.


Who will make the Assembly independent?

I don dey suspect you ooo 🤣🤣

E be like u don finally join them. You know what I mean abi?

On a serious note, we'll never get the best of the executive until the legislature is independent. Somebody will have to make it happen sometime soon. I want to see both the national and state legislature overriding the executive for public interest.

Minime10:


Honestly, I sincerely regret ever trying to engaged a numskull, who is at a very deplorable poor state of intellectual & cognitive powress. I had thought, you were a bit lettered & redeemable, but alas! you sounds so pitiably empty and uninformed for below and even the least of an average nitwit. Perhaps still in primary 1 or 2, I won't be any surprise.
What is above you, will forever be beyond you.
Locate your kind to banter with next time.
I rarely have time for untrained/foolish kids

Go back to school, dummy. The basics of our government evades your grasp. So long as I am in this forum, I will continue to school your likes.

Indispensable85:



Femi knew he will not be reelected as speaker again. Nobody will resign as speaker of house of representatives to take up any appointment in the executive. He's the number 3 man in the country.

By the way, lalong also resigned as minister to take his seat as a legislator.

it's matter of Umahi resigned as a Chief Will of the senate to take ministerial position

Indispensable85:
I don dey suspect you ooo 🤣🤣
E be like u don finally join them. You know what I mean abi?

On a serious note, we'll never get the best of the executive until the legislature is independent. Somebody will have to make it happen sometime soon. I want to see both the national and state legislature overriding the executive for public interest.

Hahaha

At the University, I served both as a Principal Officer in the SRC and also at the toppest position of the Executive. The day you are elected like this, the hunt on who becomes your Speaker is the next agenda.

Nobody go give Assembly independence, leave am.

These things can only happen at Abuja, because interests cross-pollinate with religion as a factor and because we place so much focus there. At the States level, Governors are cashing out big time.

aribisala0:

There is now a law in Rivers State called
The Rivers State Funds Management and Financial Autonomy Law
Go and educate yourself before coming here to talk Rubbish



You are talking nonsense and cannot even spend legislature
Legislatures are run by law. The constitution allows legislatures to make laws and even override an executive veto.
There is nowhere in the construction that a governor is made a treasure or accountant of the state.Nowhere.
If a law is passed constitutionally it MUST be obeyed

Baba stop sounding as if you know when you know not. The executive control the financial resources of any government, show me the session of the bill passed or any constitution that says the legislators has right over the financial resources of a state. The function is oversight not more no less.

Odidigboigbo:
Baba stop sounding as if you know when you know not. The executive control the financial resources of any government, show me the session of the bill passed or any constitution that says the legislators has right over the financial resources of a state. The function is oversight not more no less.

Show me where in the constitution it says

The executive control the financial resources of any government

aribisala0:

Show me where in the constitution it says

The executive control the financial resources of any government

I have a simple question for you
1.When FEC are sharing revenue, it is shared between FG, State and LG. Why is it that legislature are not inclusive in the sharing formula?
2. Who is in charge of the IGR of a state, the house or the executive?
3. Who are the signatories to the state account
4. Who do the accountant general of the state report to?

Be honest to answer these questions

saintopus:
Am wondering between a Speaker of the House and a Chief of Staff which one is more better.

For me it's the former

CoS wields more power......has access to more kickbacks which is the butter of Nigeria Politicians. He is also the assistant governor in reality, forget Deputy Governor. The way things are done in Nigeria, CoS is simply an extension of the Governor

fergie001:
If you get one of those two, my brother pick Chief of Staff ooooo, e get why!

No budget .... Except the Governor, extremely more powerful than everyone including the Deputy Governor.

For sure

saintopus:
Am wondering between a Speaker of the House and a Chief of Staff which one is more better.

For me it's the former

I think the COS is more powerful in the sense that he is responsible for the day to day runnings of the Governor and majority of assessment pass through him to the governor,
Speaker only have the power in the assembly to override the veto power of the governor and it must come with the support of his members.
Generally in Nigeria politics, any office can be powerful or useful depending on your relationship with the boss.
For example in Bayelsa state, where the former Speaker was as useless/powerless as Osibanjo, while the government was ran by Gov, chief of staff and his SA political matters.

Odidigboigbo:
I have a simple question for you
1.When FEC are sharing revenue, it is shared between FG, State and LG. Why is it that legislature are not inclusive in the sharing formula?
2. Who is in charge of the IGR of a state, the house or the executive?
3. Who are the signatories to the state account
4. Who do the accountant general of the state report to?

Be honest to answer these questions

You need to improve your English
1. Money is not shared to executive.It is shared to the state
2. What do you mean by IN CHARGE . What does that mean in law it is like asking who is in charge of food that enters the body is it the nose or the eyes,the band of the teeth.
The government is in charge . When you say executive what do you mean ? Is the governor the executive? You are talking ignorantly and creating a false and artificial division. The House of Assembly is in charge of The governor. They can remove him.
4. Again what do you mean by. REPORT TO ? Define that? The accountant General operates within the laws of the state . Who does the governor report to?
The state have pass an autonomy law and the law must be followed or the governor will repeat WILL be removed.

All these your beer parlour questions do not case me

aribisala0:

You need to improve your English
1. Money is not shared to executive.It is shared to the state
2. What do you mean by IN CHARGE . What does that mean in law it is like asking who is in charge of food that enters the body is it the nose or the eyes,the band of the teeth.
The government is in charge . When you say executive what do you mean ? Is the governor the executive? You are talking ignorantly and creating a false and artificial division. The House of Assembly is in charge of The governor. They can remove him.
4. Again what do you mean by. REPORT TO ? Define that? The accountant General operates within the laws of the state . Who does the governor report to?
The state have pass an autonomy law and the law must be followed or the governor will repeat WILL be removed.

All these your beer parlour questions do not case me

You tried to dogged the question but failed woeful.
1.Who has signatory to state account?
2. Who is responsible for the management of state IGR, legislature or executive?
3. So as smart as you claimed to be, the accountant general doesn't report to anybody because there is protocol, please explain tje protocol?
4. Who appoints the accountant general and who have the right to fired him?

Odidigboigbo:
You tried to dogged the question but failed woeful.
1.Who has signatory to state account?
2. Who is responsible for the management of state IGR, legislature or executive?
3. So as smart as you claimed to be, the accountant general doesn't report to anybody because there is protocol, please explain tje protocol?
4. Who appoints the accountant general and who have the right to fired him?

I am not your student to spend my day answering stupid questions to your satisfaction

No one has a right to fire anybody it is not a right but a power or authority . You need to improve your English
If you want to know look for the law establishing the position.


Who does the governor report to
Who can remove the governor
Who can authorise the governor to spend money

aribisala0:

I am not your student to spend my day answering stupid questions to your satisfaction

No one has a right to fire anybody it is not a right but a power or authority . You need to improve your English
If you want to know look for the law establishing the position.


Who does the governor report to
Who can remove the governor
Who can authorise the governor to spend money

Obviously you are trying to be smart by half, hence ignoring my question.
Legislator's constitutional project are paid by the executive arms. Even a primary school students knows that legislators are limited to the found made available to them by the executive, lead by the governor. Even common their salary, governor is the one that can authorised the payment. Can your almighty House of Assembly determine where a common borehole would be sited in state?

Hoelujohn:

Dey play. Seems you don't know the meaning of Executive Governor. They won't get contracts from ministries, no constituency projects allocation, infact they will only live on salary.

Dey play, why did he demolish the legislative complex if e sure for am. Lmao 😂 person wey dem go impeach and nothing go happen.

Odidigboigbo:
But Femi Gbajabiamila resigned from his elected position to take the role COS to Tunubu likewise other legislators resigned to take ministerial roles. What is more weird than that?

Gbajabiamila resigned as a member of HOR , because it's obvious he cannot be the speaker. The president is from SW, so the speaker cannot be from SW again.
In the case of Rivers state, Ehie already knew he will be thrown out by the court because his selection did not follow due process. The other guy was the authentic speaker. So Ehie resigning was just to safe his face from the embarrassment, because the case was already in court. So he has two options, wait for the court to sack him and become a floor member in the house , or resign and be appointed as a Chief of staff.

Looking at the two positions, a speaker is more powerful, lucrative and prestigious than COS.
In the absence of the Gov and Dep Gov, the speaker takes over power.
The speaker has a good pension/gratuity package just like the Gov and Dep Gov.
The speaker has a convoy with security details.

Minime10:


Did I ever said in my post that the office of the COS is any creation of the Constitution.
Mind you under Section 196 (1) of the Constitution, the Governor has power to appoint anyone to any such office created by him to assist in the running of his administration including the office of COS though not expressly mentioned in the Constitution.
Can you mention one senerio where the President or the Governor of a State pass through any form of protocols before meeting either of the Senate President, Speaker House of Rep or Speaker of State Assemblies?
Now back to our discussion, the Deputy Governor of a State can't even see his boss except the COS gives him/her clearance so to do. That is the reality bro.
The COS is just the behind the scene Governor. 🤓
Like someone said before on this thread, if you are offered any of the two, I bet u, you will sure go for the COS position except you are neophyte .

You dey mind those people?? I just dey read their comments dey laugh.

moodyguy:
NO

Ok noted

Oscarchims:
Him moves lately seems deadly

deadly where?

who didn't anticipate this move?
maybe, just you.

moodyguy:
The reverse is the case here

Nah.. it’s how separation of power works between the three tiers of government

saintopus:
Am wondering between a Speaker of the House and a Chief of Staff which one is more better.

For me it's the former

It all depends on the type of power the governor wants to give you in Nigeria type of democracy

sageb:


From speaker to COS
@Mrksquare I see Ehie's move from an elected position(House of Assembly member) to an appointee(COS) as kind of weird.
What's your view about it?

Chief of Staff is very lucrative. As the Chief of Staff, the Rivers state three jets are under his office. Everything that pertains to the maintenance and payment of salaries of the pilots and air hostess falls under that office.

Mind you those jets goes to Germany every year on routine maintenance and the budget is rooted through the office of the Chief of Staff.

Beyond the above, as COS, Ehie will be able to influence appointments for his cronies. As a lawmaker, at best what he can influence is one slot for caretaker in his LGA but as Chief of Staff, he should be in the position to influence more.

Being chief of Staff gives him direct access to the Governor. Anyone that wants to have an audience with the governor has to go through the chief of Staff.

Ehie as lawmaker doesn't control any budget head. Other than his salary and constituency project, nothing more trickles to a State lawmaker. But as COS, he now controls a budget head, wields more influence and will build more political capital through the contacts he will come across with in the course of discharging his responsibility as COS

Given that Gov. SIM is a political neophyte, Ehie as COS, will help him in manoeuvre some of the landmines Wike will be placing on Sim's path in the days and months ahead.

Any time and any day I will chose COS over House of Assembly seat.

Sniper101:

deadly where?

who didn't anticipate this move?
maybe, just you.

He accepted wikes commissioners and appointed his own cartel men lately, chased chidi amadi and employed Edison ehie, he is yet represent the budget

mrksquare:



Chief of Staff is very lucrative. As the Chief of Staff, the Rivers state three jets are under his office. Everything that pertains to the maintenance and payment of salaries of the pilots and air hostess falls under that office.

Mind you those jets goes to Germany every year on routine maintenance and the budget is rooted through the office of the Chief of Staff.

Beyond the above, as COS, Ehie will be able to influence appointments for his cronies. As a lawmaker, at best what he can influence is one slot for caretaker in his LGA but as Chief of Staff, he should be in the position to influence more.

Being chief of Staff gives him direct access to the Governor. Anyone that wants to have an audience with the governor has to go through the chief of Staff.

Ehie as lawmaker doesn't control any budget head. Other than his salary and constituency project, nothing more trickles to a State lawmaker. But as COS, he now controls a budget head, wields more influence and will build more political capital through the contacts he will come across with in the course of discharging his responsibility as COS

Given that Gov. SIM is a political neophyte, Ehie as COS, will help him in manoeuvre some of the landmines Wike will be placing on Sim's path in the days and months ahead.

Any time and any day I will chose COS over House of Assembly seat.

Well said