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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 9:28am On Feb 13 |
Janosky: Mumu Janosky with your maggot infested brain, where is your evidence to prove 607 Bce? Where are the Scholars that back up 607 Bce? Where are the archeologists to confirm 607 Bce? Where are the Cuneiform tablets found by Archeologists that prove that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607bce? You can't be jumping up and down this thread like a little boy ranting like an Idiot! Where are your evidence? Surely there must be proof to confirm 607 right? Oya show us! We have shown our own. Any intelligent person will take us seriously because we have shown all proof in this thread. But an uneducated fool will take you JWs seriously. Watchtower knows 607 is a scam. That's why they are forcing you JWs to accept it or else you are called Apostates. They know the fraud they made with 607 and 1914. Once these doctrines get New Light, it means they were never selected in 1919. The original inventors of 1914 that you JWs copied from have discarded the doctrine because they know it is False! When will you people discard it? 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 9:37am On Feb 13 |
MaxInDHouse: How many times have you said this and still went back to do the same thing? How many times have you said you will avoid Apostates and still forced yourself in their midst? How many times have you said you will avoid certain threads and yet you still go there by yourself? No right thinking person takes you seriously because you are a Mad Man. See your fellow Mad JW Elder murdered a woman and now he has been jailed. What do you have to say about that? Was It Jehovah that told him to pick up a hammer to kill this woman? Your fellow Mad man after the murder still went to give talk in his Kingdom hall. 2 Likes
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Emusan(m): 9:39am On Feb 13 |
Courz: They are the one who will make dubious claims they will be the same people telling you to look for the evidence that support their claims. Very pathetic set of people! Since Oga intelligent officer was exposed of those videos, you notice he couldn't talk again about the fraud of 607BC, he was so happy seeing @mightysparrow changing the subject matter with him 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 9:44am On Feb 13 |
MaxInDHouse: Which lost sheep have you been looking for? Which one? Let someone go through all your posts in this forum. Does your posts look like someone looking for lost sheep? Rather you are the lost sheep! You are Lost. You're confused. You don't know where you are to place yourself. All you do is jump in one thread after another trying to shove your demonic doctrines down people's throats to the point that they sometimes insult you. I see your posts o. Even your own fellow JWs call you Apostate. They know your movement here in this forum is disgraceful! Which Truth have you shown in this thread? Have you provided your evidence to prove 607 Bce is correct? Are there ancient writings to prove 607 is correct? Archeologists found ancient writings to prove 586/587 is correct. Where is your own? We have been telling you JWs here to provide your own. Instead you have been jumping up and down like an Idiot. 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 9:50am On Feb 13 |
Emusan: Don't mind the fool. Mad MaxinDhouse don cast! We caught him in the act! Anyone reading his comments will be disgusted. No atom of shame in his body. If not that I decided to watch the first video, we wouldn't have known the wayo he was trying to do. Mad MaxinDhouse went to look for an Apostate video to use as evidence when the same video is against 607. No shame. I provided a video from an archeologist backing our argument. Oya Provide your own na wahala. He didn't see anyone to back up their wayo doctrine. He went to bring An Ex JWs video. What a shame! No wonder his fellow JWs call him Apostate. ππππ 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Janosky: 10:01am On Feb 13 |
Emusan: Did secular history prove that king Cyrus of Persia released the Jewish captives in Babylon (captive for 70 years) to return to Jerusalem in 537 BCE & rebuild the temple to fulfil 2 chronicles 36:2023 & Ezra 1:1-4 ? The years of BCE was counted backwards. When you add 70 years Jewish captivity to year 537 BCE , what do you get? MUMU WAILER DECEIVING HIMSELF Oga, carry your IBERIBEISM & STUPIDITY out of this forum. |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by MightySparrow: 10:03am On Feb 13 |
Emusan: This organization against God is living in abysmal delusion. They rejoice in it 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 10:06am On Feb 13 |
Janosky: Show us ancient writings that prove this counting of yours. Show us evidence Janosky! Ancient writings called Cuneiform tablets documented events during that time and proved that the destruction happened in 586/587 Bce and these tablets were found by Archeologists. Your former Governing body member Ray Franz as a writer and researcher saw the tablets for himself and that's how he knew that 607 bce was not correct telling you your counting is wrong! He searched high and low for proof for 607. He never saw one proof! All the history books confirmed 586/587. That was how he saw the fraud in Watchtower. Oya show us your own. Also, show us Archeologists that confirm 607. This is their job. So they must know. These are the same people Watchtower relies on for information. These are the same people that confirm the existence of Bible characters. Show us! Why is It that when it comes to confirming Bible characters and events, you JWs suddenly remember that archeologists and Bible Scholars exist and then use their information but when it comes to Jerusalem destruction, you people suddenly forget them and form your own wayo doctrine from your anus? That's because you are Frauds! Are you not aware that sticking to 1914 and 607 is just a ploy for Watchtower to make claims of having authority over you? 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Emusan(m): 10:20am On Feb 13 |
Janosky: Provide the secular history here. Why are you afraid of the truth? The years of BCE was counted backwards. When you add 70 years Jewish captivity to year 537 BCE , what do you get? When did secular history say the Counting of the year 70Years started from? This are the fact you need to provide from the so called secular history. MUMU WAILER DECEIVING HIMSELF Never make any sense in his life, JaNosense the lying liar JWs like his father the Devil. 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 11:45am On Feb 13 |
See the Fraud Watchtower did in broad daylight to arrive at 607 Bce. They desperately need this date to be correct. So, they did some mago mago in the calculation of the dates. Now see where it gets interesting. The Same Watchtower depended on the secular sources and tablets to arrive at the date when Babylon fell but at the same time made the claims that these secular sources are not reliable. It is just like a person using a method to create something but at the same time the person is claiming that this method is not reliable. So, the question is, if these secular sources and tablets are not reliable, why are you using them in the first place to arrive at a date? After arriving at a date, you now formed your own calculation that involves adding more years to the reign of Kings at that time. You see the wayo they did just so that the dating can stretch to fit 607 Bce? 1 Like
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 11:51am On Feb 13 |
You use the same Bible Scholars and their information to do calculation to suit yourself at a certain point then you decided to do your own calculation from that point to arrive at 607 and then say the source you used is unreliable. All because you are desperate to make 607 and 1914 correct by all means necessary. π€£π€£π€£π€£π€£ Can you see the mago mago? The American wonder they performed here. Chai! It is good to be educated. No wonder they don't want JWs to go to University. 1 Like
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Emusan(m): 12:00pm On Feb 13 |
Courz: The funny thing is, these are secular historians of which even Watchtower will claim they are bias, these people just did their jobs and established fact. Even Judaism doesn't bother themselves with the date of Jerusalem destruction neither Christianity but only Watchtower is trying to spin the historical fact and make use of this delusion and their members swallowed it. That's why you won't see them providing a single link or video that supported their claim rather than telling you to google it. And no matter how you search Google you won't come across a single reputable source supporting 607BC as the year Jerusalem was destroyed apart from Watchtower website and few JWs who also repeating the lies on their website. 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Emusan(m): 12:08pm On Feb 13 |
Courz: That is why I keep asking JaNosense to provide the SECULAR HISTORIANS since he agreed that secular historians were truthful about the date. One can easily spot their fraud even in their calculation of 3 1/2years to arrive at 2520 years. How can 2520days suddenly changed to 2520years? No where God ever said 1day will automatically become 1year. They just took Bible verse out of context to get their dubious calculation. The quote on Watchtower 2011 says it all. Only untruthful person will read the above quote from Watchtower 2011 and still support them. 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 12:25pm On Feb 13 |
Emusan: And they ought to be ashamed of themselves that they can't provide one single evidence to back up 607. Isn't that enough proof that 607 is a Lie from the pit of hell? No wonder they don't like University education. If people are that smart and educated, they will see their Fraud. No wonder they disfellowshipped a JW just because he saw their error and wanted to correct them. They deliberately made this Lie up to deceive JWS with no Brain cells. 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Aemmyjah(m): 12:25pm On Feb 13 |
Janosky: They will rather take sides with what secular writers say about the date even if it could mean to them that what the Bible said about Jerusalem lying desolate for 70 years was a lie and Daniel said he discerned the 70 years are elapsed. They have no problem to support secular things and go against Bible cos it's only Jehovah's Witnesses that have the courage to say, it was 607 BCE that Jerusalem was sacked and 70 years will be the 537 BCE. When they argue on 587 BCE, they themselves invalidate the Bible and support historians that are not even reliable See what I found on our site about what historians wrote about the dates of the Babylonian kings If these historians are reliable, why do they disagree? KINGS 1. King Nabopolassar BEROSSUS c. 350-270 B.C.E. (21) POLYHISTOR 105-? B.C.E. (20) JOSEPHUS 37-?100 C.E. (β) PTOLEMY c. 100-170 C.E. (21) 2. King Nebuchadnezzar II BEROSSUS c. 350-270 B.C.E. (43) POLYHISTOR 105-? B.C.E. (43) JOSEPHUS 37-?100 C.E. (43) PTOLEMY c. 100-170 C.E. (43) 3. King Amel-Marduk BEROSSUS c. 350-270 B.C.E. (2) POLYHISTOR 105-? B.C.E. (12) JOSEPHUS 37-?100 C.E. (18) PTOLEMY c. 100-170 C.E. (2) 4. King Neriglissar BEROSSUS c. 350-270 B.C.E. (4) POLYHISTOR 105-? B.C.E. (4) JOSEPHUS 37-?100 C.E. (40) PTOLEMY c. 100-170 C.E. (4) 5. King Labashi- Marduk BEROSSUS c. 350-270 B.C.E. (9 months) POLYHISTOR 105-? B.C.E. (β) JOSEPHUS 37-?100 C.E. (9 months) PTOLEMY c. 100-170 C.E. (β) 6. King Nabonidus BEROSSUS c. 350-270 B.C.E. (17) POLYHISTOR 105-? B.C.E. (17) JOSEPHUS 37-?100 C.E. (17) PTOLEMY c. 100-170 C.E. (17) (#) = Length of kingβs reign (in years) according to classical historians. |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 12:27pm On Feb 13 |
Emusan: For Watchtower to admit that when you follow the same secular sources they used, you will arrive at 587 Bce proves that they knew exactly what they were doing. They deliberately formed this Lie just so that they can stretch dates to fit 607 and 1914. 1 Like |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 12:30pm On Feb 13 |
Aemmyjah: Fornicator Aemmyjah, why did your Watchtower depend on the same secular sources and tablets to calculate 607 but at the same time claim that they are unreliable? Just answer this question. Let me see if you still have some brain cells left. 1 Like
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 12:33pm On Feb 13 |
Fornicator Aemmyjah and Mad MaxinDhouse, come and explain why someone will use a method to create something and after doing that successfully, the person turns around and says the method he used is unreliable but still use that method to this day to prove arguments.
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Aemmyjah(m): 12:38pm On Feb 13 |
π No peace for the Says my God Who listens to a liar? Someone that modifies people's comments. Chai |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 12:42pm On Feb 13 |
Aemmyjah: Fornicator Aemmyjah, is this all you can say? Oh what a shame. You're speechless because I just showed you the mago mago Watchtower used on your head. They did American wonder. They stretched a King's reign and did Abracadabra and voila! 607 was born! They used secular sources to do calculation to a date. Then afterwards did their own imaginary calculation then turned around and said the secular sources are unreliable. Please, why are they using the same sources still to calculate 607? Why did your Watchtower depend on the same secular sources and tablets to calculate 607 but at the same time claim that they are unreliable? Just answer this question. Let me see if you still have some brain cells left. 1 Like
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 12:58pm On Feb 13 |
I expect Mumu Janosky, Fornicator Aemmyjah and Mad MaxinDhouse to come and counter these shots below. Isn't It funny that you can prove Watchtower wrong by using their own publications to prove that 607 is a Lie? The first King mentioned there is where Watchtower did their mago mago to arrive at 607. They went to increase the number of years that king reigned and mixed up the timelines of when other kings ruled. They think they are smart.
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 1:01pm On Feb 13 |
Wayo people. They think they are smart.
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 1:04pm On Feb 13 |
1914 and 607 in the mud just by using their publication.
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Aemmyjah(m): 1:06pm On Feb 13 |
Courz: Quoting from apostate web page to make it look like our site De play No peace for the apostates Desperate liar π How many years did God's people spend in exile? Despite your lies and slander, we are still flourishing. Shame on you If I may ask, what year did scholars say Jesus was born? What year did he become the Messiah? Well, we were able to establish it using Bible chronology too No peace for the You can even prove that those historians were reliable. See the differences in the dates they gave about the kings of Babylon. Even if we are wrong, it shouldn't make you mad People only throw stone at a tree when it is ripe No peace for the Can't even give a sound conviction for the existence of God. Saying your belief in God's existence is cos you escape one chance motor Peace will continue to delude you as you keep working with the great apostate. Your attacks and lies can't do us any harm. Tell us how it has affected us... |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:08pm On Feb 13 |
Aemmyjah: I keep wandering if apostates do sleep at all with the hatred that fills their hearts. Abeg is it by force to be a JW? If you feel you're no longer comfortable with a religion why not join another and start telling people the new things you're learning in your new found faith? But thanks to JEHOVAH apostates can never ever find a better performing group than JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES so instead of talking about new things they've learned in their new religion it's always the remaining of what they learned from JWs they keep parroting! |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 1:10pm On Feb 13 |
Aemmyjah: Fornicator Aemmyjah, simply answer the question. Why did Watchtower use secular sources to calculate and arrive at a date favourable to them but turned around and said those sources are unreliable and yet still use the same sources till today? 1 Like
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Aemmyjah(m): 1:11pm On Feb 13 |
Janosky: Even if 70 years taken away from 537 BCE will lead to 607 BCE. 70 years of exile as God said. This mad apostates claiming to be Christians will rather fight those defending the Bible out of envy and hate. How many years did God say his people will be in exile? 587 - 537 BCE (50 years) or 607 - 537 BCE (70 years). They'll rather make the Bible look inaccurate No peace for the π |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 1:12pm On Feb 13 |
MaxInDHouse: Mad MaxinDhouse, Why did Watchtower use secular sources to calculate and arrive at a date favourable to them but turned around and said those sources are unreliable and yet still use the same sources till today?
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Aemmyjah(m): 1:13pm On Feb 13 |
Courz: I don't make conclusions or answer questions from an apostate page. You can't make me an idiot like you Tell me, how many years were the Jews in captivity? 70 or 50? Let's do simple maths and see how much you know about addition and subtraction |
Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 1:14pm On Feb 13 |
Aemmyjah: Mumu, why did Watchtower do mago mago and add unnecessary years to the reigns of kings just so that they can stretch to reach 607 Bce? Why are you a supporter of this fraud?
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Courz: 1:15pm On Feb 13 |
Aemmyjah: Fornicator Aemmyjah, simply answer the question. Why did Watchtower use secular sources to calculate and arrive at a date favourable to them but turned around and said those sources are unreliable and yet still use the same sources till today?
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Re: Ministry To Jws, Part 2 - The 1914 Theology by Aemmyjah(m): 1:16pm On Feb 13 |
MaxInDHouse: Satan was roaming to and fro the earth looking truing to ensure no one is worshipping God. His boy is running from thread to thread and all social media. The name Jehovah's Witnesses is living rent free in his head making him wail and gnash teeth. |
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