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TenQ:
Truly it was Emancipation from Umayyah ibn Khalaf but not from Abubakr otherwise there is no need for a free man to give the statement of Bilal.

Bilal is simply challenging Abubakr to set him free if Indeed he bought him for the sake of Allah.

It is you who need to go back to learn English comprehension

“Abu Bakr is our master and he emancipated our master,” meaning Bilal."

According to the text above, who is the " our Master "?

honesttalk21:
You don't see that despite all what was metted out to Bilal as torture to denounce his faith he didn't. He was ready to die. So even if he was grateful it's good he makes sure he wasn't leaving one problem and going straight into another.

honesttalk21:
I am not denying my post. Does what I say contradict it? Define or discuss Jihad if you prefer to see that my subsequent posts contradict it. Is Jihad just war?-

Expanse2020:
Shot up when he bought him
He asked Abu bakr did you bought me for your own personal gain or you bought me to free me for Islam
Stop worrying yourself if you cannot comprehend simple English na your problem be that.

Expanse2020:
Abu Bakr was not like PAUL 😂😂😂😂
New Testaments, largely took for slavery for granted and recognized the legitimacy of slave . In Colossians 3:22, Paul even told slaves who had converted to “submit yourselves to your masters, not only those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh”.

TenQ:
So Paul should tell slaves who became Christians to kill their masters!?
You are sick Paul said they should subjugate to the arsh master isn't that not bad influence
Tell me, what advice do you have for Paul as he is a leather tanner thus not rich like Abubakr!

You see the fruit of Islam!?

But, it isn't about Paul neither is it about Abubakr. We should compare Jesus and Mohammed : and it is like comparing day with night!

TenQ:
So Paul should tell slaves who became Christians to kill their masters!?
Tell me, what advice do you have for Paul as he is a leather tanner thus not rich like Abubakr!

You see the fruit of Islam!?

But, it isn't about Paul neither is it about Abubakr. We should compare Jesus and Mohammed : and it is like comparing day with night!

ahmedio2017:
You are just saying rubbish, you should rather said PAUL said,,,,, not Jesus OKAY? Jesus Christ PBUH said it is ONLY God that you should serve my God and your God. So your Trinity is rubbing, not recognized. It belongs to Paul.

Dsimmer:
Ode, Jesus said he's the son of God.

Jesus was an African Jew, not an Arab man.

Jesus didn't worship a stone idol deity called allah.

Expanse2020:
Is not Islam fault that Your Lord Jesus Christ was poor that cannot afford a simple 2squared meal a day like the Prophet and Abu Bakr

Expanse2020:
then tell me Jesus abolished slavery too

ahmedio2017:
You don't know what you are saying oga, I told you to always say Paul said and not Jesus said OKAY ?

TenQ:
What I am saying is that it is impossible for Bilal to say this at the time he was being set free from Umayyah ibn Khalaf except he is completely ungrateful and he though he had the right to be emancipated!

What you are saying is that Bilal was not grateful for being bought and saved from this wicked master by Abubakr (the rich man) for himself but is concerned about wanting to ensure that Abu Bakr’s intention was pure and solely for the sake of Allah.
The bolded cannot be true sir not remotely at the time line.

Your argument is heavily flawed

TenQ:
Secondly, if
Bilal that was being tortured intensely by Umayyah ibn Khalaf and Co while he was repeatedly saying AHAD , AHAD...

It also faults the statement
“Abu Bakr is our master and he emancipated our master,” meaning Bilal."
as it couldn't have been made at this same time if it was not fabricated. Was Bilal (a slave) also having slaves or servants under him?

This doesn't make sense sir: it is completely illogical for the statements to have occurred when Abubakr bought Bilal.


My aim is not to discuss Jihad! You were the one who denied my post that the Jihad of Bilal wasn't about war. You forgot that you already sent a picture post that supports me.

According to your picture post, did it say specifically that this Jihad of Bilal was about War!?

Dsimmer:
Ode, Paul didn't write the New testament. He only wrote letters to the Thessalonians, Greeks, Romans etc.

In the New testament, Jesus stated as a matter of fact that he's the son of God.

Jesus was an African Jew, not a an Arab man.

Jesus didn't worship a stone idol deity called allah.

honesttalk21:
How does this translate to ungratefulness is the question I ask improper? Do you rejoice at freedom through a wolf in sheep's clothing?

Is it improper for him to ascertain what the motives of his helper are or he should stupidly accept a relief that may not be one after all?
What exactly is your point? You rather change your tormentor?

You are obviously not aware that Bilal suffered terribly due to his acceptance of Islam. He was beaten mercilessly, dragged around the hills of Mecca and subjected to long periods without food or water. His owner, Umayyah ibn Khalaf, used all sorts of torture on Bilal to make him change his mind. He would bring him out at the hottest part of the day and throw him on his back in the open valley and have a great rock put on his chest; then he would say to him, ‘You will stay here till you die or deny Muhammad and worship al-Lat and al-’Uzza" (gods worshipped by the people of Mecca).

His focus was on the eternity not the immediate world.

honesttalk21:
The statement on the emancipation of Bilal is definitely an occurrence after the freedom of Bilal and not at the place where Umayyah ibn Khalaf tortured Bilal.

Is staying steadfast in your belief despite opposition and persecution not an act of defender in non violent war?

Was the intense persecution the followers of Prophet Muhammad faced during the early years of Islam from the ruling elite in Mecca not a case of war against them and their beliefs?

ahmedio2017:
All this are just off point you kept saying the same thing, no wonder you are failing in life, simple question you cannot answer.

Despite the fact I told you the meaning of a MUSLIM you are still saying trash nawa for you o, God is English language, olohun is Yoruba Allah is Arabic, Chineke is igbo etc

The word “Islam” means “submission to the will of God.” Followers of Islam are called Muslims. Muslims are monotheistic and worship one, all-knowing God, who in Arabic is known as Allah. Followers of Islam aim to live a life of complete submission to Allah.


Didn't Jesus Christ PBUH submitted to the will of God? Nor Adam, Abraham, Aaron, Moses ?

Now if Jesus Christ PBUH not a Muslim then tell us his religion

2. How does Jesus Christ PBUH worship his God

3. Did he believed in trinity or oneness of God?


You this hypocrite you know nothing, you have been brainwashed, you don't know and you don't want to know the truth.

ahmedio2017:
Ok who wrote new testament?

Dsimmer:
The disciples of Jesus did, including John who was the closest to Jesus. John also described Jesus in revelation when he said heaven was opened to him to see Jesus on his throne. John described him as one who has a white woolen hair, eyes of flaming fire and legs which looks like bronze which have been burnt in a furnace. Bronze is brown colour, imagine when burnt in a furnace. That's even more darkened.

Daniel also described Jesus in his revelation before Jesus was even born in Daniel 7:9 and Daniel 10:5-6 Daniel said the one he saw on throne in his revelation has a pure woolen hair with eyes that look like a flaming touchlight with arms and legs looking like burnished bronze while his voice sound like voice of multitude.

As a matter of fact, the Jews/Hebrew that left Egypt were black in colour. The Egyptians called these Hebrews Cananites because they were black like the Cananites while non Egyptians called the Hebrews the Egyptians because they were black like Egyptians and stayed in Egypt before they returned back to Canaan. Even the terracotta head below shows the typical African woolen hair and African colour.

We also know the first Human on earth was a black man.

On a side note, even without all these, are you stupid to not have known that Jesus existed before the Terrorist Peadophilic Mohammad? So when did Jesus become an Arab man worshiping a stone idol deity called allah? I wonder why some tend to dumb down their brain with Arab trash!

ahmedio2017:
Although St. Paul was not one of the original 12 Apostles of Jesus, he was one of the most prolific contributors to the New Testament. Of the 27 books in the New Testament, 13 or 14 are traditionally attributed to Paul, though only 7 of these Pauline epistles are accepted as being entirely authentic and dictated by St.



Useless liar. You learn that one too from Paul....

Dsimmer:
Ode with dumb brain, I told you the books which Paul wrote which were his letters to Romans, Ephesians, Thessalonians, Greeks etc.

He didn't write John or revelation for example. That were written by John!

In the New testament, Jesus stated as a matter of fact that he's the son of God.

Jesus was an African Jew, not a an Arab man.

Jesus didn't worship a stone idol deity called allah.

ahmedio2017:
You must be a mu.mu, why then there is contradictions in the bible?

Even that same Bible refer to Jesus as God and that same Jesus Christ PBUH said it is only God that you should serve your God and my God, so what can you say about that?


U no get any tangible evidence u go explain tire ode. Oponu.

Dsimmer:
Ode, Jesus is referred to as God because Jesus is the Word of God. That was why I said if you understood Yoruba, it wouldn't be difficult for you to understand.

TenQ:
Tell me if any prophet abolished slavery and we can start from that point.

Are you ashamed to compare Jesus with Mohammed even from the Qur'an and Hadiths alone?

TenQ:
I perfectly agree with you!

For Jesus came to serve and not to be served and of course, His kingdom is not of this world you agree is a slave too but why are you calling him King because I never heard about a poorest king like your lord

Unlike some prophets who used to collect alms from people in the name of God for their own consumption and who collect for themselves 20% of the best war booties

He never collected arm proof it
And he may collected 20% because he is not greedy in the bible Mouse said ur lord tell them to share all what they capture after killing the kids,older people, women but leaves only the underage kid of 32,0000 as Thier best war booties
Not to talk of Solomon and David 😂😂😂
Don't you think that absurd

Expanse2020:
Are you afraid to hear the Truth..
Even your lord was poor like a church rat and can't afford a slave but he didn't abolished the slave...

ahmedio2017:
Luke 4:8

And Jesus answered and said to him, “Get behind Me, Satan! For it is written, ‘You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ ”


Oya interpret that verse for us, Omo Yoruba ata ta ni mi, so stop saying rub.bish.

TenQ:
No problem.
Jesus n very came to have any slave. He came to. give salvation to all.

Jesus was poor because he didn't rob those He came to preach to.
Unlike your prophet who made a law to collect 20% of war booties. Any woman can give herself for sex with Mohammed and even the married ones too. His greed was so. much that they said he stole an underwear!

It is not a shame to be poor. It is a shame to be rich from the tears and destruction of others.


Again :
Are you ashamed to compare Jesus with Mohammed even from the Qur'an and Hadiths alone?

Dsimmer:
Ode, Jesus is referred to as God because Jesus is the Word of God. That was why I said if you understood Yoruba, it wouldn't be difficult for you to understand.

Expanse2020:
Your lord is poor that if he speak he speak in public the Jew will stone him and he will run away,,not only poor but coward small thing japa

Expanse2020:
Your lord is poor that if he speak he speak in public the Jew will stone him and he will run away,,not only poor but coward small thing japa

Dsimmer:
Lol.

Funny There was a never a time Jesus ran away when the Jews wanted to stone him though. It was stated that he always walked through the midst of them whenever they were angry and they couldn't do anything to him because it wasn't his time to die yet. Same person who scattered the Jews trade inside the temple?
Just closed your mouth and shame yourself you don't know anything in the bible
“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”

58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59[b] At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.[/b] NO BE HERE BABA JAPA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Abeg leave that poor guy only jàre no gram am again









Who was poor though? The one that fed the multitude to the extent that the multitude wanted to crown him as a king hence he took off?

And that was the problem of the Jews. They felt the Messiah would be a king living large on earth and wouldn't be someone living like an ordinary man except for his powerful miracles. However, what they didn't know was the kingship description of him was a spiritual depiction of him.. besides, if he came as a king, the people would have feared him which wasn't what he intended to do. His intentions was to depict the purity, mercy and salvation of God. Funny the Jews began to wait for the messiah after Jesus already left 😂until
they were later dispersed into Europe. The point was the Jews didn't believe there was no Messiah (son of God) to begin with because the scripture promised them that there would be one. So they were waiting for the messiah.

Another fact is the Jews were Africans and Jesus was an African.

Also in the scripture, Christianity wasn't enforced on anyone. Jesus didn't force it on anyone. In fact, the Romans, the Greeks and the other Europeans actually came to enslave the Jews but in the end, they were the ones who accepted the scriptures and started telling it to their European counterparts. It wasn't forced on them.

That can't be said for Arabic Islam with the stone idol deity called allah. Although I know some have ulterior motives in hand but then again, the peadiphilic terrorist Mohammed started it with the ulterior motives to begin with. He stole people's lands for his Arab people who wanted to continue such acts until the Europeans dealt with their useless terrorist selves. Bunch of useless people. Meanwhile, some Africans act as their stooges while forgetting the fact that the motive of the Arabs is to steal African lands and the land of the world at large. Heck, Mohammad called the blacks several nonsense name in his nonsense Quran. Annoying thing was how they stole the northern Africans lands after murdering the Northern Africans.

TenQ:
Jesus may be poor, but it was His choice. And being poor is not a sin nor a crime.
However, the Truth is that
1. But Jesus is NOT a Murderer like Mohammed
2. Neither is He a Thief Like Mohammed
3. He did not have mental Issues like Mohammed
4. He is not an Adulterer like Mohammed
5. He casts out demons and never subject to demons or black Magic like Mohammed
5. Jesus never urinates like women like Mohammed
6. Jesus is not a pedophile having sex with 8 year old girls like Mohammed
7. Jesus never murdered anyone, he creates life and gives life unlike Mohammed

Jesus is the Way
Jesus is the Truth
Jesus is the Life
Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega
Jesus is the Word of God who became human
Jesus is from Above
Jesus is the Creator of the seen and unseen
Jesus is the Judge of all living beings including Mohammed