Courz:


Do you know what is so irritating? These people love to quote Bible Scholars and Historians too much. They take so much pride in doing it and claiming that they are established facts! Just go through their publications. It is filled with dates from Secular History. So, I wonder why they just specifically picked 607 out of all the dates to invent themselves because they need their lies to fit with it. That's why I am asking them how they got 607. Are JWs Historians and Archeologists? What ancient documents do they have to back it up? We have been asking them this question since 1914 and they have refused to answer. So, what right thinking person would take such clowns seriously? Wouldn't intelligent people rather take established facts and provable evidence from Archeologists and historians than taking from a bunch of people that imagine things and turn them to doctrines but still cannot explain them to the public? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

They will never agree with the true date of 587BCE

Without 607BCE, there can be no 1914 doctrine.

Without the 1914 doctrine, then there can be no 1919 doctrine.

Without the 1919 doctrine, the religion seizes to exist.

So they must stick to 607BCE - the very existence of the their religion depends on this date.

Emusan:


It's only an hypocrite that behave that way.

That is why he was so bold to say, "Do we need everyone's approval to agree with us?"

because he knows that watchtower designed their own rules to suit their own doctrines. Yet the deluded guy will be claiming to be a biologist.

So the buffoon is studying Biology in school and he is sounding like a Primary school dropout? He is in the Science field and cannot use his Brain effortlessly? This is the result of Watchtower's Brainwashing. Your education becomes a waste when you take men who are neither Historians nor archeologists seriously. What a shame! He should never have attended the University as Watchtower is advising them to do.

oteneaaron:


They will never agree with the true date of 587BCE

Without 607BCE, there can be no 1914 doctrine.

Without the 1914 doctrine, then there can be no 1919 doctrine.

Without the 1919 doctrine, the religion seizes to exist.

So they must stick to 607BCE - the very existence of the their religion depends on this date.

Exactly. They made the mistake of forming doctrines using a false date. They should never have done that. If they didn't form doctrines from it, it would have been easy for them to discard it. Now, they are in a tight corner and cannot fix it. SDA, the Inventors of the doctrine have dropped it. It is not good to imagine doctrines and deceive people with Lies. You will pay for it. That's why JWs are leaving upon seeing this fraud. Now they are pleading in their recent broadcast to JWs that left. They are begging them to come back to the Cult. They are seeing that their end is near. They never expected this much JWs to leave. It certainly looks like JWs leaving the Cult is much worse than we thought.

Glory be to Jehovah the one and only true God!

MaxInDHouse:
Glory be to Jehovah the one and only true God!

Yes. Glory be To Almighty God and Jesus for exposing you JWs as Frauds. For exposing you JWs as lover of Lies like your father Satan.

Courz:

Yes. Glory be To Almighty God and Jesus for exposing you JWs as Frauds. For exposing you JWs as lover of Lies like your father Satan.

That's exactly what they told Jesus and we are not different! Matthew 10:24-25

MaxInDHouse:

That's exactly what they told Jesus and we are not different! Matthew 10:24-25

No o. Jesus actually talked about you JWs. Apostle Paul warned about intruders who will invent their own doctrines from demons and will want their ears to be tickled with fantasies and Lies. Those people are you JWs. Jesus also talked about false prophets who will claim that he came invisibly. You invented a date that Jesus would come not knowing that you're not supposed to know when he is to come. No one knows the day or hour Remember? You have been exposed for the world to see.

Courz:

No o. Jesus actually talked about you JWs. Apostle Paul warned about intruders who will invent their own doctrines from demons and will want their ears to be tickled with fantasies and Lies. Those people are you JWs. Jesus also talked about false prophets who will claim that he came invisibly. You have been exposed for the world to see.

We know for sure that we are no part of the world {John 17:14} so we don't expect the world to be fond of what doesn't belong to it! John 15:19

MaxInDHouse:


We know for sure that we are no part of the world {John 17:14} so we don't expect the world to be fond of what doesn't belong to it! John 15:19

You are part of the World. You are False prophets. You used many years to predict the future like true fortune tellers. You used Spiritism to get doctrines. The Bible specifically says No one knows when Jesus would come but you JWs disagreed and formulated your own date 1914 after so many false dates. You even continued with more dates but refused to discard 1914. You are the people Jesus warned against. And that's why JWs are leaving you.

Now, they are begging JWs that left to come back after soiling their reputation by calling them Apostates. They are seeing that calling them that isn't working. Instead, it is making more JWs to leave. So, they are begging them to come back.

Courz:

You are part of the World. You are False prophets. You used many years to predict the future like true fortune tellers. You used Spiritism to get doctrines. The Bible specifically says No one knows when Jesus would come but you JWs disagreed and formulated your own date 1914 after so many false dates. You even continued with more dates but refused to discard 1914. You are the people Jesus warned against. And that's why JWs are leaving you.
Now, they are begging JWs that left to come back after soiling their reputation by calling them Apostates. They are seeing that calling them that isn't working. Instead, it is making more JWs to leave. So, they are begging them to come back.

Everything you've said is exactly what happened to Jesus in the first century.

But one funny thing about you is how you said an organization has been exposed to the world yet you still claims the organization belongs to the world.

So who is exposing the world to the world now?
Or what do you expect the world to do against it's own?

MaxInDHouse:


Everything you've said is exactly what happened to Jesus in the first century.

God forbid bad thing for this statement you made up there! You see why your fellow JWs Call you an Apostate? You don't talk like a Christian. You don't talk like a True follower of Christ. If you really were, you would never have made the above statement. You are truly an apostate. It is blasphemy against Jesus to attribute to him what is attributed to a False prophet and Confusing doctrines that are Lies. You have once said Jesus is a Deceiver. So, I am not surprised that you are attributing what is False on or a Lie to Jesus. Satan is the Father of Lies. You JWs follow him in the same path with your New Light doctrine. Are you aware that your New Light doctrine is a License to Teach Lies as Truth?. You better go to God almighty in prayer and beg him to forgive you for this atrocious statement you just made against Jesus. You just committed Blasphemy against the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. You have no shame!

Courz:


God forbid bad thing for this statement you made up there! You see why your fellow JWs Call you an Apostate? You don't talk like a Christian. You don't talk like a True follower of Christ. If you really were, you would never have made the above statement. You are truly an apostate. It is blasphemy against Jesus to attribute to him what is attributed to a False prophet and Confusing doctrines that are Lies. You have once said Jesus is a Deceiver. So, I am not surprised that you are attributing what is False on or a Lie to Jesus. Satan is the Father of Lies. You JWs follow him in the same path with your New Light doctrine. Are you aware that your New Light doctrine is a License to Teach Lies as Truth?. You better go to God almighty in prayer and beg him to forgive you for this atrocious statement you just made against Jesus. You just committed Blasphemy against the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. You have no shame!

Now that you've said that JWs are liars, can you point out those who are telling the truth?

Courz:

It is blasphemy against Jesus to attribute to him what is attributed to a False prophet and Confusing doctrines that are Lies.

Jesus was executed on the false charges of blasphemy nah. Just as you're looking for the support to attack Jehovah's Witnesses today that's what the Pharisees did to Jesus and his disciples.
Jesus never call for support to attack anyone he only preach and teach his own doctrine it was Pharisees that were trailing him up and down to attack him just as you're doing now!

MaxInDHouse:


Jesus was executed on the false charges of blasphemy nah. Just as you're looking for the support to attack Jehovah's Witnesses today that's what the Pharisees did to Jesus and his disciples.
Jesus never call for support to attack anyone he only preach and teach his own doctrine it was Pharisees that were trailing him up and down to attack him just as you're doing now!

God forbid bad thing for this statement you made up there! You see why your fellow JWs Call you an Apostate? You don't talk like a Christian. You don't talk like a True follower of Christ. If you really were, you would never have made the above statement. You are truly an apostate. It is blasphemy against Jesus to attribute to him what is attributed to a False prophet and Confusing doctrines that are Lies. You have once said Jesus is a Deceiver. So, I am not surprised that you are attributing what is False on or a Lie to Jesus. Satan is the Father of Lies. You JWs follow him in the same path with your New Light doctrine. Are you aware that your New Light doctrine is a License to Teach Lies as Truth?. You better go to God almighty in prayer and beg him to forgive you for this atrocious statement you just made against Jesus. You just committed Blasphemy against the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. You have no shame!

Michael547:

Now that you've said that JWs are liars, can you point out those who are telling the truth?

Go back to your Bible and read it. Who did the Bible tell you is The Way, The Truth and The Life?

Courz:


Go back to your Bible and read it. Who did the Bible tell you is The Way, The Truth and The Life?

Jesus.
Does Jesus have any true followers today? If yes, who are they?

Michael547:

Jesus.
Does Jesus have any true followers today? If yes, who are they?

So, if you believe Jesus is the Way, The Truth and The Life, why are you looking for specific individuals to follow when you have Jesus? Are you a Christian?

Courz:


So, if you believe Jesus is the Way, The Truth and The Life, why are you looking for specific individuals to follow when you have Jesus? Are you a Christian?

Did Jesus not say people will know that we are his disciples if we have love among ourselves?
I am not looking for individuals to follow.
I am looking for those who love Jesus like myself, and we also love each other as Jesus disciples. Is that too much to ask?

Michael547:

Did Jesus not say people will know that we are his disciples if we have love among ourselves?
I am not looking for individuals to follow.
I am looking for those who love Jesus like myself, and we also love each other as Jesus disciples. Is that too much to ask?

It is not too much. A True Christian is a follower of Jesus. That's why you are called a Christian. You are not to focus on Individuals to show you the Way because the Way is Jesus. You are to focus on Jesus. As a JW, You are too concerned about Individuals to show you the Way. It shows you have a lot of learning to do as a Christian. Do the people you follow focus on Jesus? Do they preach about the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Do they direct your attention to Jesus? Do They take you directly to Jesus? Apart from showing love, That's how you know that they are true followers of Jesus. Read your New Testament. It is all about Jesus. Read the words of his Apostles after he went to heaven. It was all about Jesus. Does the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society follow their example and take you directly to Jesus?

Courz:


It is not too much. A True Christian is a follower of Jesus. That's why you are called a Christian. You are not to focus on Individuals to show you the Way because the Way is Jesus. You are to focus on Jesus. As a JW, You are too concerned about Individuals to show you the Way. It shows you have a lot of learning to do as a Christian. Do the people you follow focus on Jesus? Do they preach about the Gospel of Jesus Christ? Do they direct your attention to Jesus? Do They take you directly to Jesus? Apart from showing love, That's how you know that they are true followers of Jesus. Read your New Testament. It is all about Jesus. Read the words of his Apostles after he went to heaven. It was all about Jesus. Does the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society follow their example and take you directly to Jesus?

I am not asking for someone to show me the way.
Who are others that are worshiping God is what I am asking? Or should I not know others that are christ followers so that I can love them too as Jesus commanded me?

Michael547:

I am not asking for someone to show me the way.
Who are others that are worshiping God is what I am asking? Or should I not know others that are christ followers so that I can love them too as Jesus commanded me?

What was the discussion between Jesus and the Samaritan woman? Do they teach you that discussion in JW?

Courz:

God forbid bad thing for this statement you made up there! You see why your fellow JWs Call you an Apostate? You don't talk like a Christian. You don't talk like a True follower of Christ. If you really were, you would never have made the above statement. You are truly an apostate. It is blasphemy against Jesus to attribute to him what is attributed to a False prophet and Confusing doctrines that are Lies. You have once said Jesus is a Deceiver. So, I am not surprised that you are attributing what is False on or a Lie to Jesus. Satan is the Father of Lies. You JWs follow him in the same path with your New Light doctrine. Are you aware that your New Light doctrine is a License to Teach Lies as Truth?. You better go to God almighty in prayer and beg him to forgive you for this atrocious statement you just made against Jesus. You just committed Blasphemy against the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. You have no shame!

Default mode!

Courz:


What was the discussion between Jesus and the Samaritan woman? Do they teach you that discussion in JW?

Oga are you the only one following christ today? If no, have you found another person following Christ like you? Where do you guys meet to worship just like Jesus disciples did after his death and resurrection?

MaxInDHouse:


Default mode!

You see why your fellow JWs Call you an Apostate? You don't talk like a Christian. You don't talk like a True follower of Christ. If you really were, you would never have made the above statement. You are truly an apostate. It is blasphemy against Jesus to attribute to him what is attributed to a False prophet and Confusing doctrines that are Lies. You have once said Jesus is a Deceiver. So, I am not surprised that you are attributing what is False on or a Lie to Jesus. Satan is the Father of Lies. You JWs follow him in the same path with your New Light doctrine. Are you aware that your New Light doctrine is a License to Teach Lies as Truth?. You better go to God almighty in prayer and beg him to forgive you for this atrocious statement you just made against Jesus. You just committed Blasphemy against the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. You have no shame!

Michael547:

Oga are you the only one following christ today? If no, have you found another person following Christ like you? Where do you guys meet to worship just like Jesus disciples did after his death and resurrection?

What was the discussion between Jesus and the Samaritan woman?

Courz:


What was the discussion between Jesus and the Samaritan woman?

You can tell me. I'm listening

Michael547:

Now that you've said that JWs are liars, can you point out those who are telling the truth?

Just as Jesus presented his own fellow believers {Matthew 12:46-50} just as they were RECOGNIZED in an ancient city called Antioch {Act 11:26} so how do we identify the group practicing what Jesus commissioned?

Ọmọ that's what apostates will not like to hear cause there is none except Jehovah's Witnesses!

Michael547:

You can tell me. I'm listening

Read John 4 Vs 20 to 24. Then explain to me what the verses say.

Courz:


Read John 4 Vs 20 to 24. Then explain to me what the verses say.

Jesus said in that verse that location to worship God does not matter. Jesus also said that his followers will Worship God in spirit and truth.
So the question remain, who are those worshiping God in spirit and truth today? Can we know them? Have you met others who worship God like the way you do? Or was Jesus saying that we can never meet people who are worshiping the father?

Michael547:

Jesus said in that verse that location to worship God does not matter. Jesus also said that his followers will Worship God in spirit and truth.
So the question remain, who are those worshiping God in spirit and truth today? Can we know them? Have you met others who worship God like the way you do? Or was Jesus saying that we can never meet people who are worshiping the father?

It is good that you interpreted those verses correctly. Your Watchtower publication below interpreted those verses correctly too. This means that you are not to have an attachment or allegiance to a church or denomination. So, you can see that where you worship no longer matters to God. Wherever you choose to worship God in Spirit and Truth as long as the Church believes the same, is acceptable to God. Therefore, restricting yourself to a denomination as the Road to Salvation is wrong. This also means That Jesus is saying that JW is not the only road to Life. Unfortunately, this is what You are taught in JW. You are not taught the right way to worship because your allegiance is to your religion and not to Jesus and Almighty God. You will need to change your mindset so as to worship God correctly. Once your allegiance is to a religion and not Jesus and his Father, you are practicing Idolatry.

As for how to know who are worshipping God, you will do that search yourself with the help of Jesus by means of the Holy spirit. After all, He is the Head of the Church. Why? Because once again, we are not to advertise churches Since our attention is on Jesus. I don't know all the churches in the world. I am a Non denominational Christian. I do not have an attachment to a specific church since that's not the concern of Jesus and God. I attend any church that preaches Jesus, teaches the truth from the Bible and displays love by caring for the less privileged and needy. That is what the Bible calls Pure worship. You must not attend a popular church. Only one church cannot be True. That's not possible according to Jesus in the verses you read. Based on what the Bible says, use that to search for that church yourself. They may not be popular but they are scattered around the world.

Courz:


It is good that you interpreted those verses correctly. Your Watchtower publication below interpreted those verses correctly too. This means that you are not to have an attachment or allegiance to a church or denomination. So, you can see that where you worship no longer matters to God. Wherever you choose to worship God in Spirit and Truth as long as the Church believes the same, is acceptable to God. Therefore, restricting yourself to a denomination as the Road to Salvation is wrong. This also means That Jesus is saying that JW is not the only road to Life. Unfortunately, this is what You are taught in JW. You are not taught the right way to worship because your allegiance is to your religion and not to Jesus and Almighty God. You will need to change your mindset so as to worship God correctly. Once your allegiance is to a religion and not Jesus and his Father, you are practicing Idolatry.

As for how to know who are worshipping God, you will do that search yourself with the help of Jesus by means of the Holy spirit. After all, He is the Head of the Church. Why? Because once again, we are not to advertise churches Since our attention is on Jesus. I don't know all the churches in the world. I am a Non denominational Christian. I do not have an attachment to a specific church since that's not the concern of Jesus and God. I attend any church that preaches Jesus, teaches the truth from the Bible and displays love by caring for the less privileged and needy. That is what the Bible calls Pure worship. You must not attend a popular church. Only one church cannot be True. That's not possible according to Jesus in the verses you read. Based on what the Bible says, use that to search for that church yourself. They may not be popular but they are scattered around the world.

Oga forget about watchtower and show me others apart from watchtower that I can love and worship God with according to Jesus. Why are you taking me back to watchtower?
Don't you have a way forward apart from watchtower?
Have you also asked yourself why all those churches that you've attended are not in agreement when it comes to the teaching of christ?

Michael547:

Oga forget about watchtower and show me others apart from watchtower that I can love and worship God with according to Jesus. Why are you taking me back to watchtower?
Don't you have a way forward apart from watchtower?
Have you also asked yourself why all those churches that you've attended are not in agreement when it comes to the teaching of christ?

Do you have a relationship with Jesus? Do you trust Jesus to show you the Way? Why are you doubting him? You sound like you are doubting him to do justice to that.

I will repeat myself. As for how to know who are worshipping God, you will do that search yourself with the help of Jesus by means of the Holy spirit. After all, He is the Head of the Church. Why? Because once again, we are not to advertise churches Since our attention is on Jesus. I don't know all the churches in the world. I am a Non denominational Christian. I do not have an attachment to a specific church since that's not the concern of Jesus and God. I attend any church that preaches Jesus, teaches the truth from the Bible and displays love by caring for the less privileged and needy. That is what the Bible calls Pure worship. You must not attend a popular church. Only one church cannot be True. That's not possible according to Jesus in the verses you read. Based on what the Bible says, use that to search for that church yourself. They may not be popular but they are scattered around the world.