₦airaland Forum

TenQ:
Why is it that Muslims when cornered will begin to tell irrelevant stories rather than to address the questions raised! Who asked you for stories.

Address the illogicality of the statement of Bilal at the point when Abubakr bought him!


On a serious note:
Are you saying that Islam abolished slavery!?

You are quite something. Is this a stalling technique to escape showing your lie on Muhammad pbuh loaning Bilal from Abu Bakr?

How many times must I explain that Bilal was asking to know he wasn't moving from one restrictive slave master to another who wouldn't let him practice his faith?

Is this simple explanation beyond your level of understanding.

honesttalk21:
In this particular hadith, Bilal is expressing his loyalty and dedication to serving Allah above all else. By saying, “If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah’s Sake, then leave me for Allah’s Work,” Bilal is emphasizing that his ultimate allegiance lies with serving Allah and fulfilling his duties as a Muslim.

[quote author=honesttalk21 post=128501953]Sunan Ibn Majah 2522
It was narrated that Shurahbil bin Simt said:
I said to Ka'b bin Murrah, tell us a Hadith from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ), but be careful. He said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say: “Whoever frees a Muslim man, he will be his ransom from the Fire; each of his bones will suffice (as a ransom) for each of his bones. Whoever frees two Muslim women, they will be his ransom from the Fire; each of their two bones will suffice (as a ransom) for each of his bones.”


Sahih al-Bukhari 2517
Narrated Abu Huraira:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever frees a Muslim slave, Allah will save all the parts of his body from the (Hell) Fire as he has freed the body-parts of the slave." Sa`id bin Marjana said that he narrated that Hadith to `Ali bin Al-Husain and he freed his slave for whom `Abdullah bin Ja`far had offered him ten thousand Dirhams or one-thousand Dinars.

He is reminding Abu Bakr that if he acquired Bilal as a slave solely for personal gain or benefit, then he should treat him as such. However, if Abu Bakr’s intention was to free Bilal for the sake of Allah and to support him in his service to Islam, then Bilal would prefer to dedicate himself to serving Allah’s cause.[/quote]

honesttalk21:
Abu Bakr came to an open field where after witnessing Rabah’s torture, decided to negotiate with Khalf for his freedom. Abu Bakr bought Bilal then hom he cared for him and nursed him back to health.

Rabah fought in the Battle of Badr in 624, during which he killed his former master, Khalaf. Rabah also participated in the Battle of Uhud in 625 and the Battle of the Trench in 627, all of which helped rapidly spread the Islamic faith across the Arabian Peninsula.c

honesttalk21:
Is it improper for him to ascertain what the motives of his helper are or he should stupidly accept a relief that may not be one after all?
What exactly is your point? You rather change your tormentor?

The statement on the emancipation of Bilal is definitely an occurrence after the freedom of Bilal and not at the place where Umayyah ibn Khalaf tortured Bilal.

You claim when muslims are cornered? Have you that have nothing but your fallacious logic to back up a lie that Bilal was loaned dare speak more from a drunken state?

honesttalk21:
There are so many things you don't know and like the lying DEVIL you are you arrogantly feign a false knowing.

1. The moment Abu Bakr al-Siddiq; may Allah be pleased with him,embraced Islam, he spent all his money for the cause of Islam. He promptly set people free and helped end the hardships of the downtrodden Muslims.

2. Abu Bakr, may Allah be pleased with him, was born to a wealthy and noble family in Mecca. As a successful businessman, he was widely respected for his intelligence and honourable character. Even before the arrival of Islam, Abu Bakr shunned the pervasive idol worship of his surrounding society, choosing instead the religion of Ibrahim, peace be upon him.

3. Umayyah once called Bilal and ordered him to whip another slave.
"He says there is only one God," said Umayyah, "and that every person is important. A whipping will surely teach him a lesson."
But the sight of the whip did not frighten the slave.
The man's courage brought Bilal to believe in the oneness of God, the belief of all Muslims

4. Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, enjoined good treatment of slaves and he would say, “Feed them from the same food you eat, clothe them from the same clothes you wear, and do not torture the creation of Allah Almighty.” al-Adab al-Mufrad 188

5. Your slaves are your brothers. Allah has placed them in your hand, and he who has his brother under him should feed him with the same food he eats and clothe him with the same clothes he wears, and do not burden him beyond his capacity, and if you burden him then help him. Muslim 1661



What did I fabricate or forge? I see indeed that birds of a feather flock together. Show me what I fabricate or forge.

Tenq show proof that Bilal was loaned to Muhammad.
Not your fallacious logic but actual proof.

Abi
He they talk nonsense
Abu bakr but he but he loan it for Muhammad to used
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Awọn Odẹ

He painned them their Lord was a poor man who couldn't feed himself talkless of having a slave

SIRTeee15:
Why is a prophet of Allah bearing the name
'My Elohim is Yahweh'.

What's the name Zechariah gave his son. Pls note that they are Jews and speak no Arabic.
So what's the actual name of his son.

U think U smart, I go use u wash floor. U and that your false religion that lacks sound theology.

Mumu
You forgot that the semantic language in the middle east are the Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic and now compare there pronunciation in their verb words if there are mere difference

Mumu be saying Oyo, Ibadan and Ogbomosho yoruba are much different in speaking

TenQ:
?

Jesus kill to fortify the land😂😂😂🤣

Expanse2020:
[[font=Lucida Sans Unicode]sup]

You've just proven your ignorance there's no Gospel of Thomas in the Bible.

Answer this question did two Jesus exist at the same time in the land of israel?

Why did Mohammed not mention it?

You're so desperate to disprove who your religion and greatest prophet approve of that you got the book of Thomas 😁 what other books will you find the book of Judas Iscariot?

The only verse that's true is the one of Matthew and Jesus did that to demonstrate that the Christian who doesn't bear fruit will be cut down.

TenQ:
Unfortunately, Muslims can lie for satan!
Did I tell you that Yahaya is Yahweh?


Tafsir Qur'an 19.7 Abbas - Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs
And so Gabriel called him, saying: (O Zachariah! Lo! We bring you tidings of a son whose name is John ) Yahya in Arabic, because he has breathed life (ahya) into his mother's womb; (We have given the same name to none before (him)) We have not given before a son to Zachariah whose name is John; it is also said that this means: there was no one before him whose name was John.


Tafsir Qur'an 19.7 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
God, exalted be He, in responding to his request for a son that will be the incarnation of His mercy, says: ‘O Zachariah! Indeed We give you good tidings of a boy, who will inherit in the way that you have requested — whose name is John . Never before have We made anyone his namesake’, that is, [never has there been] anyone with the name ‘John’

The name mean “Yahweh is merciful,”

So they called him John in the Quran 🤣🤣🤣

TenQ:
When your ignorance is beyond redemption to know that Bible means book and there are several books including the Gospel, the Torah, the Psalms, the Letters etc in the bible.

See your life outside!?

You are even more ignorant than your acclaimed illiterate Fraudster called Mohammed

What of Paul letter too na part of gospel nawẹ🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

Expanse2020:
Abi
He they talk nonsense
Abu bakr but he but he loan it for Muhammad to used
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Awọn Odẹ

He painned them their Lord was a poor man who couldn't feed himself talkless of having a slave

Expanse2020 don't let them drag you into apparently abusing an honoured prophet. That really must be their aim

Expanse2020:
Mumu
You forgot that the semantic language in the middle east are the Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic and now compare there pronunciation in their verb words if there are mere difference

Mumu be saying Oyo, Ibadan and Ogbomosho yoruba are much different in speaking

Hehehe🤣😆😅😂
Expanse has turned to linguistic expert in middle east Semitic languages.
Someone I doubt can even read an Arabic newspaper.

Mr Man answer my question. Tell us the name Zechariah called his son. That's what I want to know.

Mumu who has zero knowledge of ancient linguistic history.
During the time of Jesus, the common language in Judea was aramaic, most Jews couldn't speak Hebrew. They have to go to religious schools to learn Hebrew. That U could speak Aramaic doesn't automatically mean u will understand hebrew.....not to talk of one primitive desert language called Arabic.

Mr Man, Islam has been exposed as fraud. Tell us the name Zechariah called his son when he was born, say it loud and expose your false prophet.

honesttalk21:
Expanse2020 don't let them drag you into apparently abusing an honoured prophet. That really must be their aim

Nobody is abusing anyone here. That I disagree with U doesn't mean I should disrespect u.
But that doesn't mean we should not say the truth and expose Fraud.
You Muslims have been doing that to Paul and we Christians didnt take it personal.

Help your friend close the case.

what name did Zachariah call his son when he was born. It's is a simple question.

SIRTeee15:
Nobody is abusing anyone here. That I disagree with U doesn't mean I should disrespect u.
But that doesn't mean we should not say the truth and expose Fraud.
You Muslims have been doing that to Paul and we Christians didnt take it personal.

Help your friend close the case.

what name did Zachariah call his son when he was born. It's is a simple question.

You better show me the things you say I fabricated first

honesttalk21:
You better show me the things you say I fabricated first

1. Trying to say it's ok to call Allah father so long as it's metaphorical
2. Trying to claim baby in the fetus is a Koranic miracle.
3. Trying to redefine what slave of Allah meant.

Now a sweet the question.
What's the name zachariah gave his son when he was born.
U can ignore the above question if U accept God's name is YWH.

SIRTeee15:
1. Trying to say it's ok to call Allah father so long as it's metaphorical
2. Trying to claim baby in the fetus is a Koranic miracle.
3. Trying to redefine what slave of Allah meant.

Now a sweet the question.
What's the name zachariah gave his son when he was born.
U can ignore the above question if U accept God's name is YWH.

1. I didn't say it's o.k to call Allah father. There is definitely a misunderstanding in your perception of what is said.

2. I didn't claim that but indeed you and I's existence and ability to propagate is a miracle.

3. You tried to redefine not me without considering the multiplicity of the meaning of Abd. This I showed you or didn't I?

Did Zachariah a.s give his son a name or Allah had named his offspring before his birth?

Allah truly has many names. Some he has revealed to mankind and some he has withheld.

honesttalk21:
1. I didn't say it's o.k to call Allah father. There is definitely a misunderstanding in your perception of what is said.

2. I didn't claim that but indeed you and I's existence and ability to propagate is a miracle.

3. You tried to redefine not me without considering the multiplicity of the meaning of Abd. This I showed you or didn't I?

Did Zachariah a.s give his son a name or Allah had named his offspring before his birth?

Allah truly has many names. Some he has revealed to mankind and some he has withheld.

What name did God tell Zachariah to give his son. That's my question. No need for rhetoric
If you believe God is YWH, no need to answer the question.
But if not, then U need to have a open heart to see that your believe as a Muslim is based on very shallow and poor theology.

honesttalk21:
You are quite something. Is this a stalling technique to escape showing your lie on Muhammad pbuh loaning Bilal from Abu Bakr?

How many times must I explain that Bilal was asking to know he wasn't moving from one restrictive slave master to another who wouldn't let him practice his faith?

Is this simple explanation beyond your level of understanding.







You claim when muslims are cornered? Have you that have nothing but your fallacious logic to back up a lie that Bilal was loaned dare speak more from a drunken state?

You were jus repeating yourself of illogicality.
Repeating falsehood does not make it correct!


On a serious note:
Are you saying that Islam abolished slavery!?

Expanse2020:
Jesus kill to fortify the land😂😂😂🤣

Says who?
You!?

Expanse2020:
So they called him John in the Quran 🤣🤣🤣

You have switched on to to lieing mode.

Feigning dumb just to keep up the appearance of talking!

Expanse2020:
What of Paul letter too na part of gospel nawẹ🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

When Allah doesn't know that the Bible consists of many books and he called them just Torah and Injeel!

It's not your fault that you don't know!

Expanse2020:
Jesus kill to fortify the land😂😂😂🤣

Now bring your proof from the book of Judas Iscariot 😁 .

Lawag3:
Now bring your proof from the book of Judas Iscariot 😁 .

Ask ur brother TenQ who said he was u to fortify

TenQ:
When Allah doesn't know that the Bible consists of many books and he called them just Torah and Injeel!

It's not your fault that you don't know!

Just like how your God made Paul, mark, Luke the new Prophet fill with holy spirit
😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 To wrote bible to complete what Jesus forgot to teach during his time

TenQ:
Says who?
You!?

Is that not what you said earlier this morning...that he was used to fortify the land
🤣🤣😂😂

TenQ:
You were jus repeating yourself of illogicality.
Repeating falsehood does not make it correct!


On a serious note:
Are you saying that Islam abolished slavery!?

I haven't been joking. Substantiate your claim that Abu Bakr loaned Bilal to Muhammad pbuh. When you do I may answer your following questions.

TenQ:
You were jus repeating yourself of illogicality.
Repeating falsehood does not make it correct!


On a serious note:
Are you saying that Islam abolished slavery!?

honesttalk21:
I haven't been joking. Substantiate your claim that Abu Bakr loaned Bilal to Muhammad pbuh. When you do I may answer your following questions.

1. Is it untrue that Bilal did call to prayers five times a day for Mohammed in Mohammed's mosque till he died.
2. Is there any record on the trade or business Bilal Bilal did to sustain his livelihood other than he did call to prayers five times a day in Mohammed's mosque (meaning that he ate from Mohammed's home).
At least we know the Business of Abubakr!
3. is there any record that Bilal collected a salary or payment for his service of doing call for prayers in Mohammed's mosque five times a day?
4. Who owned or built Masjid al-Nabawi in Medina? Is it true that Bilal called Ahadan five times a day from this mosque?



This is my evidence: all these point to the fact that Bilal served Mohammed till he died.
If these are all false, I want to know!

Now, answer my question :
Are you saying that Islam abolished slavery!?

Expanse2020:
Is that not what you said earlier this morning...that he was used to fortify the land
🤣🤣😂😂

If this your claim is true:
Can you quote me please as you have started in the footsteps of Mohammed with lies!

Expanse2020:
Just like how your God made Paul, mark, Luke the new Prophet fill with holy spirit
😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 To wrote bible to complete what Jesus forgot to teach during his time

Unfortunately, your scholars say Paul was an Apostle of Jesus.So, either you are ignorant of your religion or you are dazed with confusion

Expanse2020:
What of Paul letter too na part of gospel nawẹ🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

Can we depend on the ignorance of Allah who call our scripture Torah (not knowing that the Torah consists of FIVE books) and the New testament Gospel (not knowing that our new testament consist of the gospels, the letters and the history)!

Address your ignorance and that of Allah please!

TenQ:
Can we depend on the ignorance of Allah who call our scripture Torah (not knowing that the Torah consists of FIVE books) and the New testament Gospel (not knowing that our new testament consist of the gospels, the letters and the history)!

Address your ignorance and that of Allah please!

Mumu you the Torah why a person bring and the gospel a wet person bring no different from wet some people edit, add, remove and called books
😂😂🤣🤣😂😂You to daft guy man

TenQ:
Unfortunately, your scholars say Paul was an Apostle of Jesus.So, either you are ignorant of your religion or you are dazed with confusion

Ehen
Tell me more who talk say him naw apostle

TenQ:
If this your claim is true:
Can you quote me please as you have started in the footsteps of Mohammed with lies!

You have forgotten so soon. When I coat a bible verse which said the person hanged on a cross is accursed person
And your said he should not be left on the cross in order to fortify the land of isreal

Expanse2020:
Ehen
Tell me more who talk say him naw apostle

You don't know!?

Expanse2020:
You have forgotten so soon. When I coat a bible verse which said the person hanged on a cross is accursed person
And your said he should not be left on the cross in order to fortify the land of isreal

You said :

Expanse2020:
Is that not what you said earlier this morning...that he was used to fortify the land
🤣🤣😂😂

When did I claim that Jesus was used to fortify the land.

Please Quote me (and since it was said earlier this morning, it shouldn't be difficult to find)

Again, I challenge you to quote me when I said that!