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Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 12:03pm On Mar 02, 2024
LordReed:
So the god wanted his message to be broadcast to all the world but couldn't be bothered to make sure there were no copying errors?
The original versions were complete
God will not stop anyone that wants to teach or write contrary just like Kanye West did
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m): 3:45pm On Mar 02, 2024
Aemmyjah:
The original versions were complete
God will not stop anyone that wants to teach or write contrary just like Kanye West did
Where are the original versions?
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:12pm On Mar 02, 2024
Aemmyjah:
The original versions were complete
God will not stop anyone that wants to teach or write contrary just like Kanye West did
Hmmmmmmmm the main reason why God will not stop those teaching heresy is because there was a challenge in the beginning, Satan told God that no human will be able to worship God whole soul under trial.

Note how Satan challenged God and His human children, here Satan is claiming that in the face of confusion all humans will curse God to His face {Job 1:10-11} this is not about what individuals claiming atheists are doing today rather it's about confusing man to the point of indirectly insulting God yet thinking they're praising Him.

So what Jehovah promised Satan in the beginning is that He is sure of what he created that some will prove to be His children by remaining focus and nothing will be able to make them turn away from the right course.

No matter how many billions are practicing falsehood as long as there are FEW maintaining their stand for the truth Jehovah is winning.

So when Jesus came to establish Christianity it was a big slap on Satan because faithful ones will not only think about how evil this system of things is but start connecting themselves throughout the world in order to make one big and happy family that the whole earth can see how peaceful and peace loving they are in the face of confusion that Satan brought upon the earth {Isaiah 2:2-4 compare to Matthew 28:18-20; John 17:20-23} with true Christianity Jesus' disciples have formed an organization that's noticed globally {Matthew 5:14-16} that's why all religionists hate JWs as if we are hurting them in one way or another! John 15:19 wink
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 4:49pm On Mar 02, 2024
LordReed:
Where are the original versions?
Search your wardrobe
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m): 5:50pm On Mar 02, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Search your wardrobe
LMAO! Your god couldn't preserve the originals. Na wa for this weak god sha. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Image123(m): 6:24pm On Mar 02, 2024
LordReed:
LMAO! Your god couldn't preserve the originals. Na wa for this weak god sha. Bwahahahahaha!
The rigmarole kid doing his thing.
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 8:36pm On Mar 02, 2024
LordReed:
LMAO! Your god couldn't preserve the originals. Na wa for this weak god sha. Bwahahahahaha!
What originals?
A foolish atheist will not see the power of God that the holy writings which was written on perishable materials and begun about 4000 years ago is now the most distributed, most translated and best seller for many years. You're not critically minded. You're just too foolish and it has clouded your sense of reasoning and makes you laugh like a mad man. Join your fellow atheists and let them educate you proper that you have no hope
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m): 8:39pm On Mar 02, 2024
Aemmyjah:
What originals?
A foolish atheist will not see the power of God that the holy writings which was written on perishable materials and begun about 4000 years ago is now the most distributed, most translated and best seller for many years. You're not critically minded. You're just too foolish and it has clouded your sense of reasoning and makes you laugh like a mad man. Join your fellow atheists and let them educate you proper that you have no hope
This originals:

Aemmyjah:
The original versions were complete
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 8:40pm On Mar 02, 2024
LordReed:
This originals:



Bwahahahahahahaha!
The original were complete and we don't have them means there were no originals?
Poor critical thinker
Foolishness has beclouded your head grin cheesy
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 8:56pm On Mar 02, 2024
LordReed:
This originals:



Bwahahahahahahaha!
What is the proof of his Godship?
His word (inspired) are still intact and available to almost 💯 of earth population and languages? Or that the original copies should be available?
He could decide to allow just the original copy survive? So?


What was inspired is God's Word, [b]not the materials in which they were written. [/b]Even without the originals, millions still accept it as his word, the blind will not see cos they're mentally blind and laugh at their blindness like a lone hungry hyena
I read Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe. A prof asked me what I was reading and I turned the cover and told him, he said it's not the book cos that's not what he read as a boy when the book was first released grin grin grin. I am still reading the same content and the first copies will eventually be lost. Whether on a stone tablet, scroll, manuscript, animal skins, parchment, electronic device, book, etc. Generations have been reading God's word in every readable format and that Author ha fulfilled his promise that his Word will last throughout all generations. Let all kinds of readable materials perish, the message endures forever.
Goodnight
Greetings to your family
😉
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Image123(m): 3:55am On Mar 03, 2024
LordReed:
This originals:



Bwahahahahahahaha!
Mar 10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.

What have you done with this original, the rigma?
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:07am On Mar 03, 2024
Satan wants God to be a bully after all He did it in the past by forcing all the nations in Canaan out of the land so why is He now mild in His approach?

Satan knew that it's wrong to do so because it will contradict God's word in the beginning when He said everything He made was perfect {Genesis 1:31} so if God should kill or destroy each time humans failed to do the right thing Satan will ask Him
"are you sure that what you created was perfect?"
That's why JEHOVAH told us:

"Be wise, my son, and make my heart rejoice, So that I can make a reply to him who taunts me." Proverbs 27:11

Satan knew what is right but he deliberately chooses to do the opposite he just wish God should destroy everything and start all over again that will make him feel satisfied after all all the generations of Adam will be wiped out and God will be the looser since He claimed everything was perfect/good the question will be:
"Why have you destroyed the so called perfect or good you made?"

That's why Jehovah is patiently solving the problem step by step with mercy for imperfect humans who don't know what is going on in the spirit realm! 2Peter 3:9 smiley
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m): 8:32am On Mar 03, 2024
Aemmyjah:
The original were complete and we don't have them means there were no originals?
Poor critical thinker
Foolishness has beclouded your head grin cheesy
Dumdum I asked where they are and you replied what originals? How is that my fault now?
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m): 8:36am On Mar 03, 2024
Aemmyjah:
What is the proof of his Godship?
His word (inspired) are still intact and available to almost 💯 of earth population and languages? Or that the original copies should be available?
He could decide to allow just the original copy survive? So?


What was inspired is God's Word, [b]not the materials in which they were written. [/b]Even without the originals, millions still accept it as his word, the blind will not see cos they're mentally blind and laugh at their blindness like a lone hungry hyena
I read Things Fall Apart by Chinua Achebe. A prof asked me what I was reading and I turned the cover and told him, he said it's not the book cos that's not what he read as a boy when the book was first released grin grin grin. I am still reading the same content and the first copies will eventually be lost. Whether on a stone tablet, scroll, manuscript, animal skins, parchment, electronic device, book, etc. Generations have been reading God's word in every readable format and that Author ha fulfilled his promise that his Word will last throughout all generations. Let all kinds of readable materials perish, the message endures forever.
Goodnight
Greetings to your family
😉
What you don't seem to realize is the more you keep making your god to have the same capacities as men the more it shows just what your god is, nothing but a creation of men.
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 5:09pm On Mar 03, 2024
LordReed:
What you don't seem to realize is the more you keep making your god to have the same capacities as men the more it shows just what your god is, nothing but a creation of men.
Hopelessness is your own god you're trying to disown

The Bible is unique in many aspects
Contemporary books of its time are lost or hard to comprehend
This one is most translated and distributed despite the persecution and bans.
Shame
Ig[b]norant[/b]theist
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Kobojunkie: 5:25pm On Mar 03, 2024
Christianity and lying are like siamese twins joined at the head. No salvation foreseeable!. lipsrsealed
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 5:28pm On Mar 03, 2024
LordReed:
Dumdum I asked where they are and you replied what originals? How is that my fault now?
Go and find it
We still have the scriptures intact
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by PastorOlokonla: 5:28pm On Mar 03, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Yes, there are no errors in God's Word--- the word out of God's very own mouth.. But not every word recorded in that book is God's Word. So the book cannot be considered the Book of God, nor can the book be considered Holy since there is no Law from God that guided the writing of all the books contained in the book. undecided

I am however interested in this book of God which you claimed cannot have error because I fail to see how many man can believe that a book written by the fallible hands of a human can be without error. Where such idea comes from is what I am interested in knowing. undecided
Kobo, the idea came from a certain verse in the scripture which says "all scripture is given by inspiration.... holy men of God being moved by the Holy Spirit to write"

Even though you have a valid argument,you mentioned "God's words" how do we know them to be God's words since they are being reported and written by men who claim them to be God's word or did you see God writing those words personally.

You can not pick and choose which is God's words.

What do you have to say.
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Kobojunkie: 5:32pm On Mar 03, 2024
PastorOlokonla:
■ Kobo, the idea came from a certain verse in the scripture which says "all scripture is given by inspiration.... holy men of God being moved by the Holy Spirit to write"
■ Even though you have a valid argument,you mentioned "God's words" how do we know them to be God's words since they are being reported and written by men who claim them to be God's word or did you see God writing those words personally.
■ You can not pick and choose which is God's words. What do you have to say.
1. That verse says absolutely nothing of what you assert though. lipsrsealed
in·spire

1. fill (someone) with the urge or ability to do or feel something, especially to do something creative.
2. breathe in (air); inhale.
All living beings have the breath of God in them. Does that mean that all living beings are holy? Surely not! That one is filled with the urged or ability to do something does not mean in any way that the individual is made holy by that urge or that the something to be done is holy as a result so why do you assume inspiration produces holiness or whatever it is you claim? undecided

2. According to Jesus Christ, God's Word refers to the Word out of God's mouth - Matthew 4 vs 4. And all of Scripture, we have the Prophets saying things like .."The Lord Said...Thus Saith the Lord...", and so on. And then in the same Scripture, we have Jesus Christ Himself declaring that He is the Word out of God's Mouth — I am the Way, The TRUTH(God's Word) and the Life. clearly, it ain't difficult to know and understand that which is the Word of God and that which is not the Word of God if one is interested in knowing these things. undecided

3. Given what is stated in Scripture, there is no picking and choosing necessary in this at all. So, I don't understand the supposed confusion of those who claim their Bible as the Word of God when written in that book are details that carefully explain exactly what constitutes the Word of God and what doesn't. undecided
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by PastorOlokonla: 5:39pm On Mar 03, 2024
Kobojunkie:
That verse says absolutely nothing of what you assert though. lipsrsealed

2. According to Jesus Christ, God's Word refers to the Word out of God's mouth - Matthew 4 vs 4. And all of Scripture, we have the Prophets saying things like .."The Lord Said...Thus Saith the Lord...", and so on. And then in the same Scripture, we have Jesus Christ Himself declaring that He is the Word out of God's Mouth — I am the Way, The TRUTH(God's Word) and the Life. clearly, it ain't difficult to know and understand that which is the Word of God and that which is not the Word of God if one is interested in knowing these things. undecided
There you go again my friend " According to Jesus Christ", how do you know this to be true seeing it is a reported account by individuals who might have written other parts of the scriptures you are having a conflict with.

These are all reported accounts don't you think or you want to tell me these verses were personally written by Jesus.?

My contention with you are those verses you claimed to be "Gods words" and the one's that are not according to you.

My conclusion, it is either you accept all the Bible as God's words or you don't accept any of the Bible at all afterall, God can still write through inspiration.

What do you think?
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 5:59pm On Mar 03, 2024
PastorOlokonla:
There you go again my friend " According to Jesus Christ", how do you know this to be true seeing it is a reported account by individuals who might have written other parts of the scriptures you are having a conflict with.

These are all reported accounts don't you think or you want to tell me these verses were personally written by Jesus.?

My contention with you are those verses you claimed to be "Gods words" and the one's that are not according to you.

My conclusion, it is either you accept all the Bible as God's words or you don't accept any of the Bible at all afterall, God can still write through inspiration.

What do you think?
I'll advise you to ignore that one
She's just capping nonsense all over NL
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m): 6:01pm On Mar 03, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Go and find it
We still have the scriptures intact
You were the one who brought up originals now you asking me to go find them, are you drunk or high or drunk and high? LoLz.
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m):
Aemmyjah:
Hopelessness is your own god you're trying to disown

The Bible is unique in many aspects
Contemporary books of its time are lost or hard to comprehend
This one is most translated and distributed despite the persecution and bans.
Shame
Ig[b]norant[/b]theist
LoLz. Shey its you that is giving me the hopelessness bah. Bwahahahahaha!

The shame and ignorance is yours. Your god is a creation of men so you keep giving it attributes of men. Yes you should be ashamed for being stubbornly ignorant.
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Kobojunkie: 6:09pm On Mar 03, 2024
PastorOlokonla:
■ There you go my friend "According to Jesus Christ", how do you know this to be true as its a reported account by individuals who wrote other parts of the scriptures you are having a conflict with.
■ These are all reported accounts don't you think or you want to tell me thise verses were personally written by Jesus.?
■ My contention with you are this verses you claimed to be "Gods word" and the one's that are not according to you.
■ My conclusion, it is either you accept all the Bible as God's words or you don't accept any of the Bible at all afterall, God can still write through inspiration. What do you think?
1. Oh, I see now where you are going with this. undecided

2. When you pick up a book to read and you come upon a quotation, you almost instinctively conclude that the speaker quoted is the actual one who said those words, right? Well, in much the same way, you are expected to parse that written in Scripture. After all the book is written in human language by humans so the same language rules apply. "According to Jesus" is to stress that the words stated were recorded as a direct quotation of the person of Jesus Christ, and not someone else. Scripture records Jesus Christ as the God of those in the Kingdom of God, and His Words are the Word of God. undecided

3. Words that do not qualify as the Word of God are words that are not direct quotes, or directly connected to statements made by the person of the God of Israel or the God of the Kingdom of God. Use basic language comprehension rules here. undecided

4. Your conclusion makes absolutely no sense at all given that all you need to comprehend these simple things is the application of basic language comprehension skills here. The book you call your Bible contains the views and opinions of different characters. There is no sensible reason why one would conclude the entire book is the Word of God, absolutely none!. undecided
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by PastorOlokonla: 6:09pm On Mar 03, 2024
Aemmyjah:
I'll advise you to ignore that one
She's just capping nonsense all over NL
I actually love Kobo's arguments and love to discuss with him.
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 6:20pm On Mar 03, 2024
LordReed:
LoLz. They its you that is giving me the hopelessness bah. Bwahahahahaha!

The shame and ignorance is yours. Your god is a creation of men so you keep giving it attributes of men. Yes you should be ashamed for being stubbornly ignorant.
Your hopeless existence is an attribute of men too
Common sense tells us that the world comes from order
Foolish atheist says na lie
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by FxMasterz: 6:21pm On Mar 03, 2024
Kobojunkie:
See desperation abeg! And error is no longer an error? It all depends on how it's erroneousness is perceived by a bunch of con men cum religious cases? Na wa oo! grin

See attempt to drag God for crying out loud! God of Israel never complained about any of the errors or lies contained in the book. So why pretend He cares about them? undecided
How do you qualify an error? From the original texts or from the copied texts?

I told you to go for deliverance. You're demon possessed. You need Jesus.
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m): 6:43pm On Mar 03, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Your hopeless existence is an attribute of men too
Common sense tells us that the world comes from order
Foolish atheist says na lie
Is it you that is making my existence hopeless? LoLz.

Your common sense that can't even tell you when to wipe your arse. LoLz.
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 7:54pm On Mar 03, 2024
LordReed:
Is it you that is making my existence hopeless? LoLz.

Your common sense that can't even tell you when to wipe your arse. LoLz.
The belief that your life is a product of chaos gives it meaning grin
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m): 8:29pm On Mar 03, 2024
Aemmyjah:
The belief that your life is a product of chaos gives it meaning grin
Quote where I said that. Once again you must lie everytime we interact. LoLz.
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by Aemmyjah(op): 8:45pm On Mar 03, 2024
LordReed:
Quote where I said that. Once again you must lie everytime we interact. LoLz.
You believe your life came by intelligent design?
Re: Do This Scripture Contradict Itself And Make The Bible Invalid? by LordReed(m): 8:50pm On Mar 03, 2024
Aemmyjah:
You believe your life came by intelligent design?
Nope.
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