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YesDaddyTill203:
It's not so easy. They can't just bring their dad back.
10 years after he has been out of the US, he can apply for approval (not sure of the name) for his kids to apply for him.
His chances are less than %1 because he was deported for fraud and he's from Nigeria.
Nigerians are known for fraud hence his chances of getting any compassion are very very slim.

I know two people in a similar situation that I'm trying to help now to get back to the US.
If he had been deported for lesser crimes, he would have had a better chance, but fraud is seriously frowned upon, especially for Nigerians.

Evening sir,

just got info that he has gotten form i 851 from ICE.

He has a child with a us citizen

Do you think there is any loophole he can explore to avoid deportation?

1stGenAmerican:
Attorney here—deportation is definitely in his future. Good behavior can, in some cases, earn a shorter incarceration period but it won’t stop removal proceedings. You said he was sentenced to 36 months. His attorney should’ve already discussed expectations with him prior to sentencing.

ICE already put a detainer.

He has a kid with a USA citizen

Do you think there is anything he can do to avoid deportation?

UnabashedIPOB:
As long as he's NOT a US citizen, he's deportable. And MOST likely while he's still serving his prison sentence, the US Immigration would put what's called a DETAINER on him. That means when he's done serving his prison term, BOP (Bureau of Prisons) will hold him for US Immigration to take him into their custody. Then while in Immigration custody, he would appear before an Immigration judge who decides his fate. If he's lucky, he might be granted a bond and if he can make his bond, he will be let go to appear later. But if the judge decides at the bond hearing that he will be deported, then he will remain in custody until he's deported. The US Congress especially with Immigration gave discretionary power to NOT only the Immigration judges but also immigration officers. That's the reason why an immigration officer at the port of entry could deny you entry even if you have a valid VISA.

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

linearity:
He will be deported either immediately after serving his prison sentence or later.

For sure, he is not not qualify to Naturalization and become a citizen, hopefully he has gotten his ten years Green Card as that would buy him more time in case he is not deported after serving his sentence.

If he is not deported immediately after serving his sentence, advice never to file for citizenship even if he is qualified to do as that will give immigration another time to give his whole file another look.

If he must renew his Green Card, he should look for a good attorney and should do that after having acquired a substantial period of good moral behavior e.g. five years after finishing his sentence. This good behavior period is not a get out of jail card, but it is a mitigating behavior to show immigration that he has ‘learnt’ his lesson, but they can still close the books on him regardless.

Even if his kids file for him done the road, this will still stand in his way. The best defense against not reaping the consequences of a crime is not to commit the crime.

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

bolegs:
Certainly he will be deported so long has he has not yet acquired American citizenship. The restitution they will overlook but in future it might be an issue when he tries to legally return which has a remote chance of succeeding. I don’t even think he will be able to enter any of the Euro countries, I know someone in an identical situation who was returned in 2011 and has not been able to get even into Ireland 🇮🇪.

like Euro countries share data together?

Glock22:
The bolded is not true.

Deportation is not automatic.

He will face another trial in an immigration court where he will be ruled to stay or get deported.

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

linearity:
I think what he meant is, there are some States, especially blue States that don’t share immigrant prison information with ICE.

In those cases, ICE will not even know if he is convicted of any crime and won’t know if he is serving in prison or not.

In those situations, he will more likely ‘fall through the cracks’ but he would have to remain in those cracks for almost forever and later become illegal.

If his Green Card expires and he tries to renew it or if he try to file for citizenship; that is when ICE would pull his files and get the 411 on his felony and would definitely deny his application and put him in deportation proceedings.

But all these are hypothetical because he committed a federal crime so ICE would get the 411 from day one.

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

360command:
Every case of an individual is different. He who never go never know.
He can be deported and he cannot be deported.
Lawyers dey vary. Head are not the same.
I have seen someone on tourist visa commit a crime, went to prison and came out, immigration was there to pick him; law is law and they argued in court, he got out. Note: 10 out 10 people said he will be deported , yet he was not deported. Today, he is a greencard holder.

I have also seen someone arrested for drug related offence. Lawyer argued his kid is autistic,the kid has strong bond with the dad, no one can handle the kid but the dad. There were proofs and they won the case. The guy was not deported. He is a greencard holder.

When things becomes worse, na lawyer you go look up to. Also, someone's head and another person head no be the same.

First case, na govt lawyer wey fight the case. Note: people said. "Ah! Govt lawyer no go do anything, if na private lawyer, we go say en-hen, maybe something fit happen but I no sure".

Second case, they paid the lawyer.

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

ykalhaji:
After his done with his jail sentence, he will 1st be sent to Immigration holding, then he will be processed for deportation. Good behavior and zero criminal record are conditions of maintaining a Green Card, going to jail for a criminal offence(misdemeanor or felony) now automatically triggers placing the foreign national on removal procedure. After deportation based on the crime, will be banned from re-entry into US for 10-20 or life.

Now about the restitution, since it is a condition of his sentence, his 10 or 29 years ban starts the day he finishes paying the restitution, if he wants to come back to US after the 10-20 year ban then he must pay the restitution, but if he can't pay, then he can't pay and should just move on and then forget about yankee.

thanks

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

Yankee101:
1. Which state?
2. Why is he doing yahoo in the US when he can earn legit money?
3. Federal or state prison/case (na FBI or State police or County case)

The state, level and location of crime/incarceration will determine his fate

fbi

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

Onefornaija24:
fbi

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

He’s coming home

Onefornaija24:
He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

Is he a permanent resident...meaning a Green Card holder? What was he convicted of?

Onefornaija24:
He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

He needs an immigration lawyer to argue if his case is a deportable offence or not.

In this instance, they have to use what is called “case law” and refer to other precedents.

It’s an expensive but 50/50 chance.

Asylum is also another reason that can stop his deportation. A person cannot be deported to a country where his life is not safe.

Onefornaija24:
He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

I am not sure. You have to talk to an immigration lawyer for matters like this. The fact that you have a kid who is a US citizen does not cover a parent who is not legal in the country but there are bends to this which a lawyer can tell you.

One bend to it might be if the child is autistic and the dad is responsible for the child's welfare as the child as so much bond with the dad.

There are other options but the one I can remember is what I listed above.

xandy84:
No Sir. That is now America justice system works. Prosecutor do not deport. ICE deport people from America. Once you're sentence to a prison, the prison official will inform ICE when a non citizen arrive and ICE will put a detainer on your name. The detainer prevent the prison from releasing you after you complete your sentence. ICE will pick you up from prison the day of your release and transfer you to ICE holding prison waiting for deportation. They wait because it's cheaper to deport people in groups. They charter a plane, load people going to countries closer to each other like Ghana, Nigeria etc and off they go. Case closed.

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

JeffreyJunior:
There's a good chance that he will be deported after serving his sentence.

ICE will definitely be notified of his conviction especially with the name fraud and Nigeria on it. In fact, they will be having erection by now.

Dude will not have the opportunity to do the restitution which will be on file to fight him when he plans to return to the US after a possible 10years ban. Also, he may likely not be able to enter US ally countries ever again.

If his Nigerian wife loves him and wants him to smell the country again, she should join the US military immediately or push one of their kids to join.

Doing so will help make his re-entry a reality. If not, he should come to Obosi park and join us keke drivers. We are not doing badly you know.

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

xandy84:
You're right but things has changed lately. You will be deported if you go to federal prison for a felony. That is automatic. State prison depend on the State. Some State will not report non citizen to ICE and will just release you after the end of your sentence but the guy in question was sentenced to federal prison and homeland security prosecute his case. People who know him should have advise him to run when he was on pre-trial release cos Naija better pass jail oo.

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

JeffreyJunior:
Orlando Man Sentenced To Federal Prison For Mail Fraud And Aggravated Identity Theft

This case was investigated by Homeland Security Investigations (HSI). It was prosecuted by Assistant United States Attorney Ranganath Manthripragada.

If you're talking about this one, he is already a goner.

His deportation is as guaranteed as my morning coffee and donuts.

The idiot is one of the many idiots bringing shame to Americans of Nigerian descent who work hard day by day to prove themselves to be trustworthy.

As e dey vex me now, if they hold him one more day after his jail term without deporting him, I will petition ICE to know why they are wasting taxpayers money feeding the idiot.

that's a different case.

not in news at all.


He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

cookingsoul:
Your friend is cooked remember Chicago is the deadliest city and the the jail/prison system is truly hell on earth.first of all he should worry about prison rape or turning to sumbody's bitch.he will probably b stabbed or beat up badly dat one nah sure banker,if he manages to survive after his incarceration the prison will put a detainer on him meaning ice is coming to pick u up and transfer u to their custody.the will not deport u immediately but will ask if u want to b deported immediately or go see an immigration judge(this one nah jus delay tactics after all the process wit judge he go still order ur deportation).while fighting ur deportation u can b in detention for 6months to 1 nd a half yrs.Make I give u expo the food for immigration detention nah dog shit.jus tell them to deport u asap so u can start ur life brand new.the downfall of a man is not the end of his life,God go see u thru my brother.when u do time for americas prison nah the worst experience of ur life ever so coming back home will make u appreciate naija more...................from true life experience...................stay away from crime boys nd gals

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

kunle75:
He will work during his term through jail and pay,and most probably his bank account would have been seized to cover for part of his restitution plan.
Lastly, he's coming home to you after his term,I guarantee you that.
His GC will be destroyed because he already violated his terms and conditions for obtaining such benefits.
I don't know if any miracle can happen after his release for his deportation not to happen but the chance is next to zero.

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

Risingsunn:
file a case as against his deportation giving reasons why he should be allowed to stay in America. His child need fatherly support.

Ordinarily, he would be deported but because he has a child that is a citizen and also with a citizen mum, he is good to go. Just be in the good books of the akata babe. If the akata babe dey against am, he will be deported straight up

do you think this can fly?



He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

Glock22:
He needs an immigration lawyer to argue if his case is a deportable offence or not.

In this instance, they have to use what is called “case law” and refer to other precedents.

It’s an expensive but 50/50 chance.

Asylum is also another reason that can stop his deportation. A person cannot be deported to a country where his life is not safe.

tnx

Onefornaija24:
My primary school mate just got convicted in the USA for 36 months.

It had to do with money laundering, aza man issues about 200k USD.

He has a green card but not a citizen.

He has been in the USA since 2017.

He has 2 kids he gave birth to there with naija wife.


He impregnated an akata, akata oyibo woman gave birth while he was in prison because he was already in detention till the court conviction last week.


WILL HE BE DEPORTED after serving his jail terms?

Good day:

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

cc

egunmogaji2

apoptosis

juliuscaesar

cookingsoul

ijebos
xandy84

Onefornaija24:
He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

Even if he has 100 children with all women in America he will be taking before an immigration judge for hearing on his breach of oats he sworn before and proves to the judge reason why he should not be deported especially on fraud case. The immigration system here will look for every opportunity to expunged him not even now that the entire country is complaining about changing the policy and makes it more difficult for immigrants to apply for immigration benefits.
Like I said I don't what which miracle will happen to change such decision,but I wish him luck.

The only clause is if he's already a citizen, then once he's served his time and paid restitution, he won't be deported but he will live with the damage on his record for life, and he may not be able to get good job except he has his business, even at that he get blacklisted, the list of repercussions are endless.

Glock22:
He needs an immigration lawyer to argue if his case is a deportable offence or not.

In this instance, they have to use what is called “case law” and refer to other precedents.

It’s an expensive but 50/50 chance.

Asylum is also another reason that can stop his deportation. A person cannot be deported to a country where his life is not safe.

But remember he is PR holder and already has a case file with the homeland security as someone who's originally adjusted his status. So tell me how he wants to go back after a federal felony requesting for an asylum. We all learn everyday I would like to know how he wants to wriggle himself out of that quagmire.
This are few that messed up the country name abroad, I can tell you for a fact how the name Nigeria has cost me alot of opportunities even though am law abiding and honest.
Things that ordinarily won't cost a Kenyan or Somalian citizen much effort to do will cost a Nigerian double the effort because there's this general notions that all Nigerians are fraudulent.
Honestly he should turn a new live incase he made it out of this case,I wish him best of luck

kunle75:
Even if he has 100 children with all women in America he will be taking before an immigration judge for hearing on his breach of oats he sworn before and proves to the judge reason why he should not be deported especially on fraud case. The immigration system here will look for every opportunity to expunged him not even now that the entire country is complaining about changing the policy and makes it more difficult for immigrants to apply for immigration benefits.
Like I said I don't what which miracle will happen to change such decision,but I wish him luck.

The only clause is if he's already a citizen, then once he's served his term and paid restitution, he won't be deported but he will live with the damage on his record for life, and he may not be able to get good job except he has his business, even at that he get blacklisted, the list of repercussions are endless.

tnx

ICE detainer means immigration want you to be transfer to there custody when you finish serving your time and they will start deportation proceedings. Since he has a green card, he will go thru immigration court and he can make bail and be release while his case is going thru immigration proceedings but the law is written in black and white. A green card holder who commit a felony is subject to deportation.
He need God's intervention because he is closer to Naija than anything bro. That is the fact.

Onefornaija24:
Good day:

He is due for release by May.
I was informed ICE already filed a DETAINER.
HE has a kid with a citizen.

I wonder if there is anything he could do to avoid deportation.

cc

egunmogaji2

apoptosis

juliuscaesar

cookingsoul

ijebos
xandy84

Onefornaija24:
tnx

You're welcome

At this point, You should rest and allow the law to run its full course. There's nothing you can do for him unless you were the one that got him into the trouble in the first place. If the 200k$ is still available, he can use thst to start a new life in Nigeria and if you really want to be a good friend to him, start preparing for his arrival in Nigeria since ICE already have a detainer on him.

Cos of $200k, he spoilt his life. Now he will have to communicate with his family on zoom. I'm sure with time, his wife will move on as well due to work and those lonely nights. Money he could have made in a legit way down the line.

xandy84:
ICE detainer means immigration want you to be transfer to there custody when you finish serving your time and they will start deportation proceedings. Since he has a green card, he will go thru immigration court and he can make bail and be release while his case is going thru immigration proceedings but the law is written in black and white. A green card holder who commit a felony is subject to deportation.
He need God's intervention because he is closer to Naija than anything bro. That is the fact.

ok tnx

kunle75:
But remember he is PR holder and already has a case file with the homeland security as someone who's originally adjusted his status. So tell me how he wants to go back after a federal felony requesting for an asylum. We all learn everyday I would like to know how he wants to wriggle himself out of that quagmire.
This are few that messed up the country name abroad, I can tell you for a fact how the name Nigeria has cost me alot of opportunities even though am law abiding and honest.
Things that ordinarily won't cost a Kenyan or Somalian citizen much effort to do will cost a Nigerian double the effort because there's this general notions that all Nigerians are fraudulent.
Honestly he should turn a new live incase he made it out of this case,I wish him best of luck

The goal is to take every chance. Asylum is yet another chance.

Irrespective of what homeland has, situations change and he can now claim that his life is being threatened.


Please trust that I do not have sympathy for anyone that does crime. I am only providing information because I know people deserve second chances.

lionlee216:
At this point, You should rest and allow the law to run its full course. There's nothing you can do for him unless you were the one that got him into the trouble in the first place. If the 200k$ is still available, he can use thst to start a new life in Nigeria and if you really want to be a good friend to him, start preparing for his arrival in Nigeria since ICE already have a detainer on him.

Cos of $200k, he spoilt his life. Now he will have to communicate with his family on zoom. I'm sure with time, his wife will move on as well due to work and those lonely nights. Money he could have made in a legit way down the line.

Lionleeee, please reply my whatsapp na baba , help me ship the buy those items na, help me am trying to make legit money, I use everything wey you love beg you. Abeg na