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Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 10:25am On Mar 17 |
Deuteronomy 17:17, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way. Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his heart turn not away:: This proves that all who say God approves polygamy and does not condemn it are Liars and Devils and children of Satan! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by lije: 10:34am On Mar 17 |
Veecruz:man changed a lot of things |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Jokerman(m): 10:39am On Mar 17 |
Only a non Christian will support Polygamy after Jesus Christ settled the matter in Matt 19:4 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 11:04am On Mar 17 |
lije: Man is always disobeying God and always inviting other people to join him in disobeying God. And because they become many, those coming eafter may think it has changed whereas it is just a case of a multitude of sinners sinning and forcing everyone to sin! 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 11:04am On Mar 17 |
Jokerman: And devils too. 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 8:58am On Mar 20 |
And show me where JESUS CHRIST condemned polygamy in the Bible, or where He said, "Ye shall not marry two wives for it is a sin unto the LORD thy GOD." 2 Likes |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 9:08am On Mar 20 |
Jokerman: “IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:” — Deuteronomy 21:15 (KJV) Why didn't GOD order the second wife be sent away here? 2 Likes |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 11:41am On Mar 20 |
See, looking for another way to argue since all your first attempt failed. Westerhoffe:. Did you not hear Him clearly Say that marriage is "male and female, created He them? And not not male and females or males and female or males and males or females and females? 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 11:46am On Mar 20 |
Westerhoffe: Have you not already committed the sin like a person caught eating meat? Is it reasonable to order that the eaten meat be returned to the pot? You have already committed the sin and right in the middle of it, so no need. |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 1:09pm On Mar 20 |
Veecruz: Stale and unreasonable. If it is a sin, GOD would have included it in His commandments to them. |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 1:11pm On Mar 20 |
Veecruz: So, if marriage is not between a male and a female, can you tell me a third gender? GOD never for once spoke against polygamy. Read the Bible and stop arguing blindly. 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 4:48pm On Mar 20 |
Westerhoffe: As long as Christ did not say a marriage is between male and females or males and female or males and males or females and females, you are the evil, son of Satan come to work your father's work. Westerhoffe: God has Spoken against all the faces of sins and no body can do polygamy without committing the sin of Adultery and whorredom/harlotry! It is absolutely impossible. Only a whorre/harlot/prostitute will marry a married man and only an adulterer will seek to marry another person. 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 4:59pm On Mar 20 |
Veecruz: Shut up my friend! What is adultery? You first explain that. What is adultery? Can't you even see how dumb you keep sounding? Adultery uk /əˈdʌl.tər.i/ us /əˈdʌl.tɚ.i/ noun plural adulteries Synonyms of adultery : voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and someone other than that person's current spouse or partner. Now that the person is his wife or her husband, how does that relate to adultery? This is you guys spread false doctrines all over the world, spitting self-made doctrines and binding the free with them. 2 Likes |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 5:34pm On Mar 20 |
Westerhoffe: See vex! "His wife"/ "her husband", that means monogamy and not polygamy! 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 5:16pm On Mar 21 |
Only a demon and an evil thing will tell you to marry more than one person and of course only a defiled and corrupt person will seek to marry again after they have first married someone else. And they do this because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore sons of men swim in evil. And because God Changed His Plan. Hosea 4:14 I will not punish your daughters when they commit whoredom, nor your spouses when they commit adultery: for themselves are separated with whores, and they sacrifice with harlots: therefore the people [that] doth not understand shall fall The wise in heart will receive commandments: but a prating fool shall fall(like the idiot without understanding in Hosea 4:14. Proverbs 10:8 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 7:02pm On Mar 21 |
Yet another blow to devils which say God permitted polygamy. Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law See just like Abraham did when he saw he was in error. Which also explains why God Said Haggai should get out. 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 3:20pm On Mar 22 |
Veecruz: You think you know the Bible, but you don't, and to worsen it, you have difficulty understanding simple English sentences. I will yet again expose your erroneous statements. You lied and decided to mislead the people about EZRA 10:3, claiming it is referring to DEUTERONOMY 17:17, meanwhile EZRA 10:1-3 was referring to EXODUS 34:15,16. Now you see you're such a blatant liar, a Satanic grade deceiver, and a mislead. I'll expose your errors, lies, and deceptions the more! Sit tight. The rate at which you contort the Bible is alarming. Your mislead says Abraham sent away his other wives and concubines? NO! Abraham sent away their SONS from ISAAC. There is no record of Abraham sending away the women save for Hagar. So there, you lied just exactly like Satan the father of lies did when trying to make lies look like the truth. Genesis 25 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹ Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. ⁶ But unto the SONS of the CONCUBINES, which Abraham had, Abraham gave gifts, and sent them away from Isaac his son, while he yet lived, eastward, unto the east country. I insist, GOD said, "IF A MAN HAVE TWO WIVES…! as in “If a man have two wives, one beloved, and another hated, and they have born him children, both the beloved and the hated; and if the firstborn son be hers that was hated:” — Deuteronomy 21:15 (KJV) GOD did not say here that, if a man has two wives, it is ADULTERY! Rather, GOD analyzed how the man should share his properties BETWEEN/AMONG THE CHILDREN OF HIS WIVES! Now, to expose your deception and attempted cover-up with your quote from Ezra, despite all your failed attempts to back up your claims of adultery from the Bible, this is what the Bible said there: Ezra 10 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹ Now when Ezra had prayed, and when he had confessed, weeping and casting himself down before the house of God, there assembled unto him out of Israel a very great congregation of men and women and children: for the people wept very sore. ² And Shechaniah the son of Jehiel, one of the sons of Elam, answered and said unto Ezra, We have trespassed against our God, and have taken STRANGE WIVES OF THE PEOPLE OF THE LAND: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing. ³ Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law. They admitted they've sinned against GOD by taking STRANGE WIVES of NON-ISRAELIS according to the word of GOD here: Exodus 34 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ¹⁵ Lest thou make a covenant with the inhabitants of the land, and they go a whoring after their gods, and do sacrifice unto their gods, and one call thee, and thou eat of his sacrifice; ¹⁶ And thou take of their daughters unto thy sons, and their daughters go a whoring after their gods, and make thy sons go a whoring after their gods. I have yet again exposed your contortion and twisting of the Bible to butter your personal opinion, and not the word of GOD. And to make yourself sound true and over-zealous, you kept calling me names like Satan, son of Satan, bla bla bla. That doesn't work here on me. What a pity to those you lead for you're a blind and a blindfolded leader. NOW, GIVE ME A VERSE FROM THE BIBLE WHERE GOD SAID HAVING TWO WIVES IS ADULTERY. You want to drag this, I'll make it LONGER! AND EVEN RIGHT NOW, WE'VE JUST STARTED!! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 3:24pm On Mar 22 |
I am waiting for your reply Veecruz. You've been online a couple of times now and won't reply to my question or what? Or you have no more lies to spread or tell? |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 3:44pm On Mar 22 |
Westerhoffe: Left the phone at home! Just came in from work. Sabbath starts in a few minutes time Do tell why is bigamy an offence? And would you allow your wife to bigamy you? 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 3:59pm On Mar 22 |
Veecruz: You were online a couple of times Pal… don't play on my intelligence. And don't deviate; show me where GOD said marrying two wives is a sin of adultery in the Bible. Because I can see you don't understand the meaning of 'adultery'. |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 4:26pm On Mar 22 |
Westerhoffe: Then this was when I was trying to respond and calls kept interrupting and disrupting my answer. Westerhoffe: I have already answered you here! quote author=Westerhoffe post=129054875] GOD had warned them not to MARRY FROM OTHER TRIBES! And that is not POLYGAMY..[/quote] Warn them not to marry other tribes is not the same as "do not multiply wives". Westerhoffe: We all know, so it was really crazy that you defined it twistedly. Westerhoffe: See it, you are saying "wife" and "a woman" which is not polygamy See yourself! Westerhoffe: And now you have properly defined adultery, so how can a second woman/man become a wife without first breaking The Law and committing Adultery? Westerhoffe: His saying "Thou shalt not commit Adultery" among other Laws has already killed it for all married people and they can not marry again without without breaking a Law somewhere. Eg Covenant Breakers Westerhoffe: Repeating yourself just proves that you have no reasonable counter for I have already answered that this was the period when they just left Egypt, being full of sins and abominations. So they already had wives and slaves before God called them and gave them His Laws. So, this is God solving the wickedness and evil already caused by their polygamy which they already had before He came to them. So now that He has given us The Law, no one has any excuse!. 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 4:41pm On Mar 22 |
Veecruz: Solving it where? In Exodus? Leviticus? Deuteronomy? Or Ezra? GOD did not say anywhere that they should not marry more than one wife… OK? He gave the word to the king who shall reign over them. And not multiplying wives does not mean he must have only one wife. Did you even read there GOD mentioned horses too? Of is the king to have only one horse too? Please explain that. 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 5:08pm On Mar 22 |
Westerhoffe: Still repeating yourself because you can not find something new and valid to say? It's over man there is nothing more you can say. Westerhoffe: Having 2 wives means 1 has been MULTIPLIED BY 2, therefore a multiplication of a wife. [author=Westerhoffe post=129055644] Did you even read there GOD mentioned horses too Of is the king to have only one horse too? Please explain that.[/b][/quote] A horse; Do you not know that a horse has meaning exactly as woman has meaning? Did you not see that God did not complain about multiplication of goat and sheep? Here you see God addressing the things which have very relevant and important meanings to us which makes us do wrongs. So, God prohibited multiplication of horses becauses horses means coup, rebellion and war. |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by MiddleDimension: 5:57pm On Mar 22 |
Veecruz: Here is the full scripture and its heading is: Instructions Concerning A King Deuteronomy 17 14 “After you have taken possession of the land that the Lord your God is going to give you and have settled there, then you will decide you need a king like all the nations round you. 15 Make sure that the man you choose to be king is the one whom the Lord has chosen. He must be one of your own people; do not make a foreigner your king. 16 The king is not to have a large number of horses for his army, and he is not to send people to Egypt to buy horses, because the Lord has said that his people are never to return there. 17 The king is not to have many wives, because this would make him turn away from the Lord; and he is not to make himself rich with silver and gold. So, it is CLEAR that this instruction is given to A KING, not to the everyday Israelite! David and many of the other kings and judges all had more than one wife, yet, did not turn away from the lord. Even monogamies can make you turn away from the lord as well. Delilah turned Samson away from the lord. Also, verse 16 says the king should not have many horses or that he should not go to Egypt to buy horses. What do you say to that? It also says you should not make money. Whay do you say? |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 6:06pm On Mar 22 |
MiddleDimension: Your brother just finished arguing all this and I asked him "from where would the king come from? Is it from the sky or amongst the people of Israel? Everything you said and what you want to say, your brother In accord has said all of it, and I have answered him, till he started repeating and repeating himself. So, no need, you can not say anything different or new on this issue which I have not already dealt with here. 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 8:18am On Mar 23 |
Veecruz: I am asking you to provide where GOD says, "Having two wives is adultery…" in the Bible. Because in case you don't know, the Bible says, Proverbs 30 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁵ Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him. ⁶ Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar. It is because you've added to His words that you're found to be a liar, lies which you have not been able to defend with any backup from the Bible. But quoting wrong and unrelated verses and passages. So I'll ask you again Veecruz, SHOW ME WHERE GOD SAID HAVING TWO WIVES IS ADULTERY IN THE BIBLE. OR FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE AND ACCEPT YOU LIED ABOUT IT, LIED AGAINST GOD THAT GOD SAID SOMETHING HE NEVER SAID. |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by vdestro: 3:14pm On Mar 23 |
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Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 3:26pm On Mar 23 |
Westerhoffe: And I have answered you saying you yourself have properly defined adultery, so how can a second woman enter to be a wife without breaking The Law and committing Adultery? And since the beginning I have been asking you but you could not answer, rather you have been twisting and twisting like a serpent. As I said, you do not have any valid argument to make, but to repeat and repeat yourself since you do not have any reasonable thing to say further in proof of "There is no valid argument against the Truth"!. So bye, 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 6:24pm On Mar 23 |
Veecruz: You have failed to provide any proof and backup from the Bible. I have corrected your errors and senselessness several times, but you're just too arrogant to admit your mistakes. You think this is a debate or contest? No… this is exposing false and non-Christian doctrines which have been taught as Christian doctrines. And you just displayed how ignorant and daft you are. Oh! I remember you even called me a fool for instructing your empty skull. And I'm still going to ask you again Veecruz: SHOW ME FROM THE BIBLE WHERE GOD SAID FOR A MAN TO TAKE TWO WIVES, IT IS ADULTERY. OR YOU FOREVER HOLD YOUR PEACE. I am waiting for your Biblical quotes where GOD said so. 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Veecruz: 5:29am On Mar 24 |
Westerhoffe: You lie some more and now you have reached the status of Satan the Liar, for Deuteronomy 17:17 is in the bible, Extra 10:1-3 is in a bible and thou shalt not commit Adultery is in the bible. And neither were you able to show how a second woman can enter to be a wife without breaking The Law and committing Adultery as proven by this case Re: Marrying A Second Wife Good Or Bad I Need Ur Opinion by Blunttruth: 5:27pm On Aug 05, 2022 Trustedapparel: I am a married man with 2kids but their is one big lady that I met she loves me very much ....since I Bleep that lady I can't get my eyes of her ....I have been thinking about her since after the marathon sex we hard last month... honestly I want to make her my second wife ... From the beginning of this debate to the end you have been exposing yourself that you are a liar and shamelessly lying left and right, even lying against the meaning of Adultery until you finally took the correction, thereof, a person full of vile affections and lust full thoughts clearly proving God has given you over to a reprobate mind filled with all unrighteousness, fornications and a covenant breaker. And since you are not able to make any further argument you just have to repeat and repeat yourself like a scratched CD in proof that "There is no valid argument against the Truth"!. So bye. 1 Like |
Re: Deuteronomy 17:17 Shows That God Does Not Approve Polygamy!!! by Westerhoffe(m): 6:41am On Mar 24 |
Veecruz: You have no shame when it comes to deception and lies. How more blind will you remain to see that Ezra 10:1-3 is referring to Exodus 34:15,16? You just keep forcing it on Deuteronomy 17:17 which does not even tally with it! More than one woman entered into marriage with Abraham, he also had concubines, GOD did not complain or rebuke Abraham for it, and these were ever before Deuteronomy 17:17! Now see how daft you will remain for not thinking with your brains but with your keyboard. Was the story you brought in from the Bible? Your argument is baseless. You still want to force your self-made doctrine down my throat, but you're damn pained I exposed you for the liar, fraud, and mislead you are. There is nothing about STRANGE WOMEN IN DEUTERONOMY 17:17 as stated in EZRA 10:1-3. DAMN LIAR. The people in Ezra 10:1-3 accepted the blame for what was written in EXODUS 34:15,16. Mr false Teacher, always mismatching the Bible. No byes here until you provide your evidence from the Bible where GOD said having more than one wife is adultery. SO GIVE ME WHERE GOD SAID HAVING MORE THAN ONE WIFE IS ADULTERY OR YOU FOREVER SHUT UP. I know you can't find it because it's not written anywhere. If you could find it you would have given me since! But because it does not exist anywhere, you failed woefully to back your claims up with the Bible. So this shows the LIAR, FRAUD, SATANIC GRADE DECEIVER, AND MISLEAD YOU ARE.
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