vickydevoka:
■ Women are the most gullible people on earth

Yet in Nigeria both men and women alike are submerged deep in the religious delusion. Can't you see past your dick to realize that delusions are not unique to any gender?

FOOTSOLDIER2:
People just talk shit about what they don't Know.

Do you know a lot of those sick persons attend healing school for weeks or even months, where their faith is build and strengthened? Faith cometh by hearing and by hearing the word of God. A canal mind will always think otherwise but you can't tempt God or Jesus, if you have faith, then your faith shall make you whole...don't argue what you don't know.

I understand u. I personally believe in miracles.
But about the healing school.... There is nothing like that in the scriptures. If one is desperate to be healed, do u really think he will need weeks for his faith to build up?

Seun:

You are assuming that the person in the wheelchair could not walk at all before he got into the wheelchair.

If you see a person who couldn't walk on wheel u know. I mean a chronic cripple.
The good part about that miracle was, it took place after the night's program. These folks were still on the altar praying when the healing power came. I even joined the others who joined hands to pray for the lame man.

See, that's the only miracle I have witnessed in my entire life as a Christian. It was so heavy that I couldn't make use of my phone to record

Acidosis:




Miracles are real. I have seen a blind man regain his sight "live and direct" at a Reinhard Bonnke's crusade.
And no, it wasn't a fake miracle. He never called anyone to "testify" or come out to prove that his miracles are genuine. He does his thing and leaves. My encounter happened right in the midst of a huge crowd. People who noticed this particular miracle won't be more than 5 as things were happening at different points at a time.

I don't think the argument is about the reality of Miracles, but in the fact that what is taking place at the healing school of Christ embassy is an abuse of the vulnerable .

vowiski:
The people saying arangee are clueless and ignorant.

If you have ever been close to Pastor Chris , you will know that he is not human ..

Before you get close to him, that radius alone, there is a lot of power generated, you must feel it, e no get how.. how much more you get to touch him.

I remember a teacher of mine who always criticized the man of God.. he said when Pastor Chris came to Benin for Higher life conference, he was waiting for Bus when the man of God passed ..

Pastor Chris was in the Vehicle and as the car passed , he fell under power right on the road..


He said God told him, that is my son .. since that day. He never said crap against the man of God..

After all, 5G caused corona virus

Opmic:


Jesus didn't go to hospitals, they came to him or came to call him

So pastor Chris is now Jesus? Everywhere Jesus went, he was doing good..most of his miracles were on the street

As someone who attended the healing school in the early 2000's, I can tell you that you are 100% right. This right here is the biggest and saddest scam of the century. No one got healed and yo those who haven't read Sir John's , other writeups and mine, please click the nairaland links below.

Sir Johhs (he experienced his in 2008)

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school

Mine (early 2000's) the very long write-up

https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8


It explains In detail the following

What happens at the Healing school

who gets to see pastor Chris

Are the people on screen seen jumping paid or are they really sick

What happens on the big night

Why do they all celebrate in the same manner.

Are they healed as claimed by the voice over etc

Can those on wheelchairs get up on their own before being prayed for?

Who is in on this madness?

Have others pulled off such a scam in the past

These are the lowest of the low in life. Read and listen to those who have been crying for years of the injustice done at Christ embassy whilst enriching itself by abusing the sick

Seun:
So what gave Pastor Chris the assurance that they would rise when he commanded them to rise? That he would not be embarrassed?

It's the fact that they had been pre-screened by Pastor Amenkhienan and his other close helpers. He knew that they could all walk.

AjalaDtraveller:

My dear I was in this same healing school for 3 weeks and the final when Chris came when they do this live "healing service" I saw able bodies people asked to climb on this stretchers. Take a close look at thier legs, body they all look able bodied! I saw the real crippled people unattended to. I saw so many things that I cannot write at a go. Even my friend who walks with a limp had to go to India for surger because he wasn't healed like so many people I saw. I wonder how this man over the years has been able to continue with this charade.

and you expect people to believe this bullshit when you are using a female gender on this forum while you're a man.
Keep lying rubbish

FOOTSOLDIER2:



Okay, thank you. But how is it possible to keep up with falsehood over a long period, talk of decades?

Am not speaking concerning this thread.

But u must know that there is power of prophecy, real healing that added no sorrows.


And


There is divination.


Even in the Bible there are accounts of sorcerers. False prophets can put people under a spell until they are lucky to be free.

AjalaDtraveller:

My dear I was in this same healing school for 3 weeks and the final when Chris came when they do this live "healing service" I saw able bodies people asked to climb on this stretchers. Take a close look at thier legs, body they all look able bodied! I saw the real crippled people unattended to. I saw so many things that I cannot write at a go. Even my friend who walks with a limp had to go to India for surger because he wasn't healed like so many people I saw. I wonder how this man over the years has been able to continue with this charade.

Before that experience if to say someone like you tell you that those healing of a thing na scam you won’t ever believe it you’ll say I’m Anti christ that I should not touch the anointed.

If those people do heal why will they take their own children and families to the hospital when they’re sick .

Those bible miracles started and ended inside bible because no pastor can walk on water raise the dead turn water into wine , heal the blind e.t.c

Pastors scamming the gullible since 10AD

If you are a human being born later than 1975 and you want healing, take your self to a hospital — money included. There is no magic or spirit associated with illnesses. The worst which can happen is the hospital won’t have the equipment to treat you, not enough knowledge on the situation or you were unlucky to catch a one in a billion ailment. “Men Of God” are scams. Their only work is to guide members into living morally upright lives. At that, they still fail.

alobright17:
Before that experience if to say someone like you tell you that those healing of a thing na scam you won’t ever believe it you’ll say I’m Anti christ that I should not touch the anointed.

If those people do heal why will they take their own children and families to the hospital when they’re sick .

Those bible miracles started and ended inside bible because no pastor can walk on water raise the dead turn water into wine , heal the blind e.t.c

baba Adeboye must see this

Only a Fool will argue that Pentecostal churches was created to rival catholic because of business (money) and catholic domination of the world

Tt

Amotolongbo:
Yenyenyen

Until he raised a renowned cripple like Yinka Aiyefele, then I can believe the stunts.

See how miracle performance look like choreography 🤣🤣

You wicked o!

Earth continue

I no wan talk so that mod no go nack me 1month ban

We all know it's a SCAM(some us wey still get sense) ......😭😂😜

Truthfullone19:
Sadly I too was a victim of what I can only call the greatest scam in the modern day history of the Pentecostal church. A well played out scam which is enabled by the likes of deaconess Gbadamosi, Brother Dele, Pastor Shola, Reverend Owase, Reverend Tom and no other person but pastor Chris. I experienced his scam all the way back in the early 2000's and had I not known the Lord, I sincerely would have walked away from the faith. Before you start reading, I ask that you speak to the Lord and as a believer expect him to give you answers. He's your father, so asking him to help you know truth is part of his will. I only could tell one person in the world about my experience that night after a build up from the so called healing school. I later on recounted it to one other person, but sadly they were too fragile and such a truth would break their bubble, so they refused to hear anything. Eventually they came round to knowing that it was all true. I had always wondered why women could get raped and not speak, but abuse is something that takes years to speak about. Some of you wonderful sisters who were abused have never spoken about it, and some of you sick men who have abused other ladies sometimes live in fear of your victims speaking out one day. Weirdly, some do speak out and also some don't. Some of you men are actually in churches and walk around almost free, and if this can happen to guilty men, imagine the support a ministry like Christ has in suppressing claims made against them. From thousands of brainwashed members, to a media empire. Let's not forget that these are media ministries which have one way traffic, you only see what they want you to see. I wish I get to meet sir John one day, for he is truly a blessing to those who seek truth. Sinach and all the rest of the families are also fully aware of the scams they portray to thousands of innocents and an audience wanting to be deceived. It's no wonder the ministry operates a system of nepotism and it reigns in that place. From brothers, to sister in-laws, to all you can name, you find the whole lot there. A system where total allegiance is required to continue fooling millions of people. Only a handful of people would even dare bring these accusations before the Lord, but would rather scream words like envy, bitterness etc. I do not know how the cry of people for justice has turned to bitterness, I guess only under Christ Embassy. The same behaviour was revealed when their beloved mama in the Lord Reverend Anita decided to say adiós to the madness going on there. One of the only people allowed to climb the stage of meetings and wear the white suit, was suddenly called bitter by those who would have rolled over the floor Kandahaying and kabashing in so called other tongues, had she touched them. Suddenly, simply because pastor Chris portrays her as not valuable, like zombies they cast her away. The very same woman they had boldly told people had enough grace to live seperately from her husband. When people began to question the separate lives of the top echelon of Christ embassy, the new policy was pushed on to have certain church workers in different branches, simply to take heat off the questions about the marriage. A few weeks to the announcement of the divorce, the ministry pushed out a statement saying nothing was wrong, but I guess time was the best revealer of truths. At each phase, sadly the members morph into defenders of what ever line the ministry goes in, whether right or wrong. Continued...

Some of us are much more advanced by calling all religion a scam and their followers gullible folks who know not better but won't or can't admit it.

Faith-healing is a scam, you cannot cure or remedy ailments by saying magic words to a god imported from the desert.

Seun:

You are assuming that the person in the wheelchair could not walk at all before he got into the wheelchair.

SEUN before you push out wrong information based on what someone said in a faceless forum, why don't you go do proper investigation for yourself. The church is right there, the next healing streams will be up in about 3 months

I have been healed on pastor Chris meetings. I had a growth on my left leg. It was very painful for years. It dried up and broke off. I can't explain it. Can I still fake it too for my self?

eepeepook:
If you are a human being born later than 1975 and you want healing, take your self to a hospital — money included. There is no magic or spirit associated with illnesses. The worst which can happen is the hospital won’t have the equipment to treat you, not enough knowledge on the situation or you were unlucky to catch a one in a billion ailment. “Men Of God” are scams. Their only work is to guide members into living morally upright lives. At that, they still fail.

Indeed they fail even at moral guidance else Nigeria would have been a better country just for the number of Churches and Mosques but other than the bigotry and extremism, nothing else.

Balistic4:
Any Muslim that comments on this topic will not die well. This is a Christian affair.

Now back to the topic
It seems Chris need serious money for a big "project"

what about we the *atheists*, we who saw all these shenanigans when we were as young as 7 years old and wonder silently why our parents with all their masters and PhDs are so dumb but we were bullied, called possessed, referred for deliverance and starved to almost coma in the name of fasting


I remember a pastor asking me to confess my sins and I outrightly told him I'm not a criminal and I'll never confess/admit to any crime if he thinks otherwise he should call the police and tell them of my crime


then I never knew the word 'atheist' and I still don't consider myself one

AjalaDtraveller:

My dear I was in this same healing school for 3 weeks and the final when Chris came when they do this live "healing service" I saw able bodies people asked to climb on this stretchers. Take a close look at thier legs, body they all look able bodied! I saw the real crippled people unattended to. I saw so many things that I cannot write at a go. Even my friend who walks with a limp had to go to India for surger because he wasn't healed like so many people I saw. I wonder how this man over the years has been able to continue with this charade.

Lying to promote the kingdom of God is allowed!
As long as the kingdom of God flourishes.
Even Paul apostles said it
“If through my lie, God's truth was magnified. Why am I judge as a sinner?” (Romans 3:7)?

TechCapon:


children of hate all over nairaland. even if he's performing fake miracles, leave him alone. he's not the problem of nigeria. the bulaba u voted is the reason for ur problems

even if fake products are being sold NAFDAC should leave them

if con artists and Yahoo boys are hacking into our pensioners' accounts and stealing their money EFCC should leave them

if robbers are robbing our parents' shop police should leave them

Basic123:

Lying to promote the kingdom of God is allowed!
As long as the kingdom of God flourishes.
Even Paul apostles said it

just like robbing and stealing public funds to finance the building of Churches
As long as the kingdom of God and crime flourishes.

Truthfullone19:


I don't think the argument is about the reality of Miracles, but in the fact that what is taking place at the healing school of Christ embassy is an abuse of the vulnerable .

I have been healed during pastor Chris meetings too. I can't deny that fact. I don't know who this guy is nor his own experience. But this is my own life and direct experience. What I know is that I was healed totally. Till today I can't even see the scar. I can't even locate the exact spot I had a very painful growth for yearsss

oluwaseyi0:


just like robbing and stealing public funds to finance the building of Churches
As long as the kingdom of God and crime flourishes.

EXACTLY

“If through my lie, God's truth was magnified. Why am I judge as a sinner?” (Romans 3:7)?

Basic123:

Lying to promote the kingdom of God is allowed!
As long as the kingdom of God flourishes.
Even Paul apostles said it

I don’t think that is true give me verse to support this your claim please ,lying is not necessary to promote the kingdom of GOD

Acidosis:



Miracles are real. I have seen a blind man regain his sight "live and direct" at a Reinhard Bonnke's crusade.
And no, it wasn't a fake miracle. He never called anyone to "testify" or come out to prove that his miracles are genuine. He does his thing and leaves. My encounter happened right in the midst of a huge crowd. People who noticed this particular miracle won't be more than 5 as things were happening at different points at a time.

Miracles are real, oh yes! But what most men of God do today is appalling. How on earth will a man who claims to be a servant of God fake Miracles? I've seen an HIV patient healed at Orioke Ikoyi. He was among the crowd unnoticed. The man who was anchoring a programme said that God told him there's someone in the midst of the crowd who had hiv virus. He said that person should come out. If you see this man, he was left with skeleton on his body. The tin don chop am to the skin.
He managed to walk outside and the man of God prayed for him. He said to him God had healed him, he became wild and couldn't control himself when the power of God hit him.

The last time i went to the place to pray, incidentally the healed man was there. He said he came to give God the glory for what He did for him. He said he had been to several hospitals to run a test and it came out negative. If not for his fair complexion, I was unable to recognise him again. He was looking fresh and robust. That's a miracle.

But today, there are many fake men of God tarnishing Christianity. They'd receive their judgement when the time comes. This I know.

Acidosis:



Miracles are real. I have seen a blind man regain his sight "live and direct" at a Reinhard Bonnke's crusade.
And no, it wasn't a fake miracle. He never called anyone to "testify" or come out to prove that his miracles are genuine. He does his thing and leaves. My encounter happened right in the midst of a huge crowd. People who noticed this particular miracle won't be more than 5 as things were happening at different points at a time.

It was well planned!