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Truthfullone19:
I have not seen in the Bible where not believing in Pastor Chris or challenging him classifies one as an Antichrist. Notice I spoke well of the late Reinhard in the write-up. What's your next accusation.
U not speaking against Reinhard does mean u will not speak against him tomorrow. It shows in ur write ups that u don't find any thing good to say about the church of God but only evil. This alone, tells us of the spirite u are operating with it............

Truthfullone19:
Far from it. It shows you're probably confused that I love the Lord, follow and actually work for some the top ministries on earth and could call out someone who has taken advantage of the sick..

There is nothing antichrist about any of my write-ups but rather anti embassy and Anti folks who twist the name of Chirag such as Peter popoff.

You haven't answered a single question that was asked to you and Christ embassy members.

Followers is groups that are challenged always use the same tactics. Peter popoffs followers used the same tactics and called those who challenged him antichrist etc.

Do everyone a big favour and I ask politely, answer the questions I asked.


Prove every other person who went to the healing school and saw what they saw wrong that is all we are asking. Could it be an accident that this is the report from a lot of people at the healing school.


Look at the video Seun posted that brought this up, can you explain to us if all of those on the wheelchairs and stretchers could previously walk?

Can you also explain why they have a very unique similar pattern of celebration?

As I said, I would be the happiest man on earth if what I saw was a terrible dream. My image of pastor Chris shattered immediately. Take some sick to the healing school and you'll notice all this.


I'll add this this. People like you are the problem with Christianity. When people report acts like peadophilia in a church, your kind are the sort to cover it up. Thousands of people kept their mouths shut when priest of various denominations were abusing children. If an accusation has been brought, do the decent thing and find out that's all I'm saying based on what majority of the healing school students saw.

I don't think you understand the damage this did to some of the people at the healing school. A few died a few days after they were paraded as healed with them jumping up and down as an act of faith as I described.
Not to mention the effect on their faith and love they had for pastor Chris. This caused mental trauma to some of them. If pastor Chris isn't real as he claims, what is then real?

Not only did they feel used, they also suddenly had to deal with the fact that pastor Chris wasn't who they thought he was. Have some compassion and stop adding to what those at the healing school have already been through.
That is why I said that U ARE MOUTH PIECE OF THE Devil. . How many times have u published the evil in ur earthly father's house to the public? And who made u judge over the house of God? How dare questioning the anointing of God? Which useless questioning did u ask? And why should I answer an antichrist ?
Ur mission is hereby void , oga antichrist

Truthfullone19:
Go to the healing school of CE as hundreds have, take a sick there and witness this. The patterns were clearly explained in the videos.

Truthfullone19:
I don't think the argument is about the reality of Miracles, but in the fact that what is taking place at the healing school of Christ embassy is an abuse of the vulnerable .

Truthfullone19:
Peter Popoff had huge crowds don't forget that.

Truthfullone19:
Glad you're there, let's wait till the crescendo and you get back to us once you've gone through the main night of the Healing school and completed it all. Your still being being prepared/ groomed for the final night and for footage that suits their script.

You've probably done part 1 of the school i.e given video stating you are not well etc..

The big night you'll jump around etc to claim your healing. Won't say more. Don't forget to also speak to the other participants once it's over, those who will be told that to claim their healing they have to react and act healed when pastor Chris lays hands on them. Few days before the event they would have told those who are going to see pastor Chris of this. Go and look for all who cannot walk off a wheelchair and ask them if they are graduating and get back to me.

You're the perfect case study. Don't forget to go round once the big night is over, speak to those who would be good to jump around in celebration in order to claim their healing. You'll see stuff as the date gets closer.

Truthfullone19:
Glad you're there, let's wait till the crescendo and you get back to us once you've gone through the main night of the Healing school and completed it all. Your still being being prepared/ groomed for the final night and for footage that suits their script.

You've probably done part 1 of the school i.e given video stating you are not well etc..

The big night you'll jump around etc to claim your healing. Won't say more. Don't forget to also speak to the other participants once it's over, those who will be told that to claim their healing they have to react and act healed when pastor Chris lays hands on them. Few days before the event they would have told those who are going to see pastor Chris of this. Go and look for all who cannot walk off a wheelchair and ask them if they are graduating and get back to me.

You're the perfect case study. Don't forget to go round once the big night is over, speak to those who would be good to jump around in celebration in order to claim their healing. You'll see stuff as the date gets closer.

Truthfullone19:
You are totally brainwashed. If anyone in my home does evil, I will personally lock them up. That includes my father, my loving mother etc. They will be more upset I do not stop the madness than leave them to go on in their evil. My mother would rather I locked her up for her evil if she committed them than cover up the multitude of her sins. She would also get me locked up and expose my evil if I committed them. Does that mean she doesn't love me, on the contrary it proves her love for me. I would expect you to lock me up if I was performing evil. As I said loads of priest raped boys and got away with it because of silly evil humans like you. I cannot believe I am having a discussion with someone after using an allegory of a peadophile and he has the guts to say if I have reported my family.


If your pastor is a peadophile, would you report him to the authorities

Challenging pastor Chris doesn't make one an antichrist. Come up with something that shows God's wisdom at work in you.


I can boldly say all the sisters who have been raped, kids who have been raped by pychoes in church are covered up by demonic folks like you. You need to repent, be born again get filled with the spirit and not an enabler of wrong things in God's house.

We had another one on this same thread arguing with us that it is acceptable to deceive people and fake miracles to forward the gospel of Christ. What nonsense have we in the body of Christ?

Should Peter popoff have been exposed

You couldn't answer any question because the spirit of God will not help you in such a moment. He is a precious holy spirit who helps establish works done in righteousness.

Truthfullone19:
Insults you use. Such vulgar words should not come forth from those who are known in Christ. You lack the fruits of the spirit my friend, with a lack of self control. I'm assuming your next move would have been physical violence.

Here are the questions once again..

For CE members please answer these questions. Below. I'm asking once again.


Did the lady on the voiceover, Pastor Chris and others give the impression that they were healed?

Why do they all have similar celebrations and a striking pattern?

Why do a lot who are waiving their hands still look dejected if you look closely?

Could they all get off wheelchairs and stretchers before this meeting?

Was the impression painted that they could not get off a wheelchair etc?

Why are they all celebrating in the same way, hands up etc?

If pastor Chris does do Miracles, why would he need to fake some or deceive the public of a false perception of healings taking place?

Is pastor Chris really like your regular church preacher who has one or two so called miracles with loads of trickery added to increase numbers?


How many percent do you think were healed?

How many of these were portrayed as being healed from the videos you watched?


Why can't pastor Chris minister outside an atmosphere that he doesn't have control of?

I love the holy spirit. The holy spirit isn't just about speaking in tongues as you modern Christians think. The spirit helps you bear fruit, you lack Christ wisdom and you my friend have no fruits on your.tree. I really wonder what vine you are connected to, Christ or Christ embassy. By the fruits you know them brother. Shout glory.

I would be sincerely happy if you could produce the answers to what was seen.


Selah

Truthfullone19:
Big difference, pastor Chris is not the Lord Jesus. You couldn't answer any of the questions. It sounds just like a scene in the Bible.

I asked questions as guided by the spirit and you had not a single answer. Do not forget, even the Pharisees marvelled at the wisdom shown by Christ. Not one of you folks has been able to give an answer because only the spirit can help you with such wisdom that is visible to both the saved and unsaved.

I gave intricate details that show why the world and the church could not accept the video on the front page as genuine. I explained why they al jump off the wheelchairs and all. The world is waiting for an answer from you, but you cannot give one.

As I said I could sit you next to the top shots at CE at your next healing streams. It'll help massage your ego but that's about it. You are not dealing with someone who isn't deep in the faith. Probably no major televangelist on earth I don't help in getting the gospel to the world to. I still have contacts at CE at the highest levels and I mean high as in high.

I gave you a task regarding those at the healing school, ensure you follow it through.

Truthfullone19:
Insults you use. Such vulgar words should not come forth from those who are known in Christ. You lack the fruits of the spirit my friend, with a lack of self control. I'm assuming your next move would have been physical violence.

Here are the questions once again..

For CE members please answer these questions. Below. I'm asking once again.


Did the lady on the voiceover, Pastor Chris and others give the impression that they were healed?

Why do they all have similar celebrations and a striking pattern?

Why do a lot who are waiving their hands still look dejected if you look closely?

Could they all get off wheelchairs and stretchers before this meeting?

Was the impression painted that they could not get off a wheelchair etc?

Why are they all celebrating in the same way, hands up etc?

If pastor Chris does do Miracles, why would he need to fake some or deceive the public of a false perception of healings taking place?

Is pastor Chris really like your regular church preacher who has one or two so called miracles with loads of trickery added to increase numbers?


How many percent do you think were healed?

How many of these were portrayed as being healed from the videos you watched?


Why can't pastor Chris minister outside an atmosphere that he doesn't have control of?

I love the holy spirit. The holy spirit isn't just about speaking in tongues as you modern Christians think. The spirit helps you bear fruit, you lack Christ wisdom and you my friend have no fruits on your.tree. I really wonder what vine you are connected to, Christ or Christ embassy. By the fruits you know them brother. Shout glory.

I would be sincerely happy if you could produce the answers to what was seen.


Selah

Truthfullone19:
Sadly you do not sound like him in this world. To be like him in this world is a spiritual as well as physical transformation. It's easy to defend a ministry blindly. I once did that until I was privy to manage the finances if some of the worlds biggest ministries. I can't vouch for some of them, even to the tune of just $10. It's okay to defend what you believe in, but gather all your facts and do not think for once you can't be deceived. For if it were possible, even the elect will be deceived. I've shown you the methods, let's just hope you don't experience the same shock we all had, but most importantly I hope you have the faith to still stand if I'm proven true.

Still no answer to any of the questions. A lot of people are desperately waiting as what they saw affected them. I quote sir John who shared his experience in 2008 and hasn't waivered in his view.

"I felt like sinking through the solid ground, I couldn’t believe my eyes. Once in a while I would utter a word of prayer, I’d say: “Lord please don’t let this be what I think”

https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school


@SirJohn if you can reach out, please do. Many thanks.
Not interested in knowing your identity, however since you've been through this path I'd appreciate it.

The best Easter gift any CE member could give me is in showing that what majority of those at the healing school saw was not true. That experience was like a horrible dream. You sit there saying to yourself ," dear God may this not be true", but sadly it was.

Truthfullone19:
And you've ignored hundreds of complaints from people who were at the healing school and paraded as healed?

I'm not being funny people like you who in fifty lifetimes will never have access to pastor Chris defend what you don't even know about. I can sit you next to rev Tom, Rev Eddy etc when next you have a major meeting based on just who I know in the faith. This is based on how much I have grown in the Pentecostal field. There is literally no Pentecostal ministry that is amongst the top five on earth that I don't have access to. I said that not to brag, but to show you that you are speaking to someone who knows their onions. I can leave ministry A in Texas and ministry B, C D and E will say I start in two days time. Texas is the heart of the Bible belt, once you have conquered Texas and worked for major televangelist out here, you can work with anyone. Done the rounds with a few.


Go to the healing school, go through the whole process. Look for those who are totally disabled and cannot get up from a wheelchair. Then ask them if they can or will meet pastor Chris. I've been where you are in a place I was at way back in the early 2000's.

I sincerely wish this wasn't true but it is what it is sadly.


By the way I'm still waiting for an honest answer. Go back and watch all his healing school videos, the same.pattern I outlined.

So have a fab Easter in all of this. You're scred of your bubble being popped. That's normal, put your faith in Jesus he'll catch you so you don't fall .after the experience.

If I am proven wrong, you don't think I'll be happy, or SirJohn and others who have been screaming for years about what is happening there? No one takes joy in such battles, however no one takes joy in seeing the sick and vulnerable being abused by tricks.

Truthfullone19:
Think about this for a second. I'm high up in global ministry and I'm facing such opposition from people like you who are totally ignorant of churches/ ministry, the word, you don't have access to any of the things you defend, what do you think it'll be like for those lot?
I've said it before in fifty lifetimes, you will not have access to any of these preachers you blindly support, not to talk of their finances or books or data and figures.

People like you are the reason victims don't speak up, because you and your camp come up with all sorts of vile abuse against them. You've met a match in Christ. This who have come out to speak about the scam of the healing school has been abused etc by wicked humans like yourself. The average victim cannot defend himself against wicked folks like you, so I'm glad you've met your match who has silenced you all.


I've put every single CE member down where they belong in this convo because of God's grace, his beautiful spirit who defends truth and also the vast knowledge of Ministries and how their brainwashed supporters behave. I know every single reaction as I've climbed way up the ladder to the top and I've seen the different opposition that comes in church. God knew this day will come where having seen your actions from the very top, I'll be able to speak up for the oppressed. All things do really work for the good.


You and your camp abuse, use vile languages, threats etc and you expect your average Joe to stand against your manner of response which doesn't smell of the fragrance of Christ? You don't realise the precious Lord and his presence via his spirit was in my room today, I'm in fellowship with him. Hallelujah to him for his grace.

Some of those who support this man even say you are allowed to forward the gospel through lies and deceit. Go through the chats, most of your camp lack fruits of the spirit. The holy spirit isn't just tongues my friend, he brings purity, love, wisdom and power.


On the higher levels of ministry, they actually kill anything standing in the way of people. I've seen it happen at the very top of the top of global ministry. Most will rid anyone standing in the way of over $100 million USD a year which is what some easily make.

You know not the scriptures and the power of God. Have you not read where it is written.

‭Proverbs 31:8 NKJV‬
[8] Open your mouth for the speechless, In the cause of all who are appointed to die. [9] Open your mouth, judge righteously, And plead the cause of the poor and needy.
[8] Open your mouth for the dumb [those unable to speak for themselves], for the rights of all who are left desolate and defenseless; [I Sam. 19:4; Esth. 4:16; Job 29:15, 16.]

I'll give you another translation in love.


‭Proverbs 31:8-9 ERV‬

[8] Speak up for people who cannot speak for themselves. Help people who are in trouble. [9] Stand up for what you know is right, and judge all people fairly. Protect the rights of the poor and those who need help.


You still haven't answered a single question. Not one, because the spirit comes whentruth is spoken.

Go on your knees tonight, speak to your father, not just in tongues. I've seen you new generation just blab in tongues for hours and don't actually speak to the Lord. Most of the tongues (not all) is questionable but that's for another day. Go to him and say, "dear God a person has brought such accusations are they true and if so open my eyes and forgive me". He's your father go to him and ask.


For a moment you thought about prayer but also you're almost at a point where you would want to hurt me if you could because what you believe in might be shaken. It's now all me, myself and I and that's a dangerous place to be in. Repent from your works lest you be like Cain who slew Abel. This principal isn't just about this Convo, it's about your life on a whole.

Truthfullone19:
Sadly your time to run away has come. Time for you to put your tail between your legs and run away . You couldn't even defend anything and your attempt is horribly bad.. Read page 9 of this write-up you'll understand the methods. You can't take cameras into the healing school and you should know that. You've resorted to personal insults and I'm not going there. My gaze is focused, please answer the questions below. You are a disgrace in defending the truth that you know, so far you're scoring 1/50 in terms of performance.


I'll ask the questions below. For those of you who are new to this thread, I wrote about the happenings of the healing school,, having gone there. Read the long write-up on page 9, it's very long and has about 4 sections. The first comment was also from a victim of the healing school. Please find link below and questions which CE members cannot answer. Two videos also show his trick clearly in operation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0gJL1ciXbA?si=ONPVlTH0RRTm-jhF




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvgNFV4eks&t=30s



https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8


One of the first persons to expose the scam at the healing school was SirJohn in 2008. My experience was in the early 2000s. Here is his own story


https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school


Here are the questions once again..

For CE members please answer these questions. Below. I'm asking once again.


Did the lady on the voiceover, Pastor Chris and others give the impression that they were healed?

Why do they all have similar celebrations and a striking pattern, could this be because celebrating as if healing is part of the classes at the healing school? Read my write-up

Why do a lot who are waiving their hands still look dejected if you look closely?

Could they all get off wheelchairs and stretchers before this meeting? I talked about how everyone he prays for can get off wheelchairs, if you can't get up the wheelchair, you are not meeting pastor Chris.

Was the impression painted that they could not get off a wheelchair etc?

Why are they all celebrating in the same way, hands up etc?

If pastor Chris does do Miracles, why would he need to fake some or deceive the public of a false perception of healings taking place?

Is pastor Chris really like your regular church preacher who has one or two so called miracles with loads of trickery added to increase numbers?


How many percent do you think were healed?

How many of these were portrayed as being healed from the videos you watched?


Why can't pastor Chris minister outside an atmosphere that he doesn't have control of? Why can't he minister in any other church?

Truthfullone19:
Sadly your time to run away has come. Time for you to put your tail between your legs and run away . You couldn't even defend anything and your attempt is horribly bad.. Read page 9 of this write-up you'll understand the methods. You can't take cameras into the healing school and you should know that. You've resorted to personal insults and I'm not going there. My gaze is focused, please answer the questions below. You are a disgrace in defending the truth that you know, so far you're scoring 1/50 in terms of performance.


I'll ask the questions below. For those of you who are new to this thread, I wrote about the happenings of the healing school,, having gone there. Read the long write-up on page 9, it's very long and has about 4 sections. The first comment was also from a victim of the healing school. Please find link below and questions which CE members cannot answer. Two videos also show his trick clearly in operation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0gJL1ciXbA?si=ONPVlTH0RRTm-jhF




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvgNFV4eks&t=30s



https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8


One of the first persons to expose the scam at the healing school was SirJohn in 2008. My experience was in the early 2000s. Here is his own story


https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school


Here are the questions once again..

For CE members please answer these questions. Below. I'm asking once again.


Did the lady on the voiceover, Pastor Chris and others give the impression that they were healed?

Why do they all have similar celebrations and a striking pattern, could this be because celebrating as if healing is part of the classes at the healing school? Read my write-up

Why do a lot who are waiving their hands still look dejected if you look closely?

Could they all get off wheelchairs and stretchers before this meeting? I talked about how everyone he prays for can get off wheelchairs, if you can't get up the wheelchair, you are not meeting pastor Chris.

Was the impression painted that they could not get off a wheelchair etc?

Why are they all celebrating in the same way, hands up etc?

If pastor Chris does do Miracles, why would he need to fake some or deceive the public of a false perception of healings taking place?

Is pastor Chris really like your regular church preacher who has one or two so called miracles with loads of trickery added to increase numbers?


How many percent do you think were healed?

How many of these were portrayed as being healed from the videos you watched?


Why can't pastor Chris minister outside an atmosphere that he doesn't have control of? Why can't he minister in any other church?

Truthfullone19:
Sadly your time to run away has come. Time for you to put your tail between your legs and run away . You couldn't even defend anything and your attempt is horribly bad.. Read page 9 of this write-up you'll understand the methods. You can't take cameras into the healing school and you should know that. You've resorted to personal insults and I'm not going there. My gaze is focused, please answer the questions below. You are a disgrace in defending the truth that you know, so far you're scoring 1/50 in terms of performance.


I'll ask the questions below. For those of you who are new to this thread, I wrote about the happenings of the healing school,, having gone there. Read the long write-up on page 9, it's very long and has about 4 sections. The first comment was also from a victim of the healing school. Please find link below and questions which CE members cannot answer. Two videos also show his trick clearly in operation


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0gJL1ciXbA?si=ONPVlTH0RRTm-jhF




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLvgNFV4eks&t=30s



https://www.nairaland.com/8039722/pastor-chris-heals-nine-people/8


One of the first persons to expose the scam at the healing school was SirJohn in 2008. My experience was in the early 2000s. Here is his own story


https://www.nairaland.com/193649/truth-christ-embassy-healing-school


Here are the questions once again..

For CE members please answer these questions. Below. I'm asking once again.


Did the lady on the voiceover, Pastor Chris and others give the impression that they were healed?

Why do they all have similar celebrations and a striking pattern, could this be because celebrating as if healing is part of the classes at the healing school? Read my write-up

Why do a lot who are waiving their hands still look dejected if you look closely?

Could they all get off wheelchairs and stretchers before this meeting? I talked about how everyone he prays for can get off wheelchairs, if you can't get up the wheelchair, you are not meeting pastor Chris.

Was the impression painted that they could not get off a wheelchair etc?

Why are they all celebrating in the same way, hands up etc?

If pastor Chris does do Miracles, why would he need to fake some or deceive the public of a false perception of healings taking place?

Is pastor Chris really like your regular church preacher who has one or two so called miracles with loads of trickery added to increase numbers?


How many percent do you think were healed?

How many of these were portrayed as being healed from the videos you watched?


Why can't pastor Chris minister outside an atmosphere that he doesn't have control of? Why can't he minister in any other church?