Banbanna:
In any case, although it seems based on falsehood there's some logic/wisdom in that scary doctrine of hellfire that they have used to keep the populace in line with established rules of proper human behaviour. Were it not for this consciousness, most people would have been living in a brutal state of nature.
Btw, I'm neither a Christian or a Muslim.

saddler:
The believe in heaven and hell is the most dumb and stupid thing any human can do.

All actions whether bad or good are rewarded here on earth.

You spirit doesn't have a body that will be burned nor do your spirit have a nervous system that reacts to pain.


Its all lies and falsehood concocted by the whiteman to control you.

marvrick:
I think the question should rather be: when was hell created? Was it created same time as heaven? Or was it after Jesus went to heaven? When really was it created for the devil and his angels before humans were later considered as partakers.

Edusouls:
I hear u na so ur sense small reach?

LordReed:


Matthew 5:22
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

Brainwashing you say . How else would I justify their idea of using their notion of heaven and hellfire?
It's just something they tell people from the onset of their childhood, that when you're good, you get rewarded with heaven and when you're bad, you're heading straight to hell. So the child then threads the path of goodness to avoid the eternal damnation that befalls bad, evil people.

Nice of you citing Oriental traditions of the Asians, but then, you can't just totally condemn Christianity. It has its own merits. There are lots of people who have, and still truthfully and humanely practices its faith and don't commit atrocities in the name of God. Those who do are seriously misguided.

Rossikk:


Even this stuff you typed is a sign of western brainwashing.

The idea that without Christianity everyone would be killing each other etc.

Why are Japan and China peaceful and crime-free? They practice their traditional religion, which rejects hellfire doctrines.

HELLO!?

Guess what?

People ARE slaughtering each other in reckless abandon in this CHRISTIAN age and in Christian nations more than in ANY OTHER AGE.

Have you seen the crime statistics of this world?

The numbers killed in wars, mostly funded by Christian nations like the USA?

THIS is the age of widespread violence and lawlessness, NOT the ages before.

In Nigeria people built their houses without front doors, gates or fences before colonialism and Christianity.

The idea of someone entering a house to steal was unheard of!

Now with Christianity widespread, you dare not build a house without those security measures.

So Christianity and its stupid doctrines did not reduce crime and criminality. It INCREASED IT VASTLY.

Jackanda1:
Happy sunday.

The bible talks about hell and death been cast into the lake of fire.(Rev20:13-15)
This means every unsaved person is going to be swimming in fire for all eternity.

What about people who were unlucky to exist before the gospel got to their location? E.g people who lived and died before the gospel got to Nigeria.

What about most people in countries e.g north korea and other such countries who have little to no knowledge about christ?

What of people who were unfortunate(they're all going to hell) to be born into say islam, budhism, hinduism and other religious movements? You might say these people should simply convert to christianity just by hearing the gospel, but switching religion isn't that simple. They are plugged to their faith the same way you have been indoctrinated and plugged to yours.

What about other sects of christianity that aren't getting it right?

Are all of this people going to be thrown into the lake of fire recieving same punishment as shekau or Hitler for all eternity?

thinkmoney:

I was expecting it. Thats how English Bible mostly translate the root words. And u have been brainwashed to perceive hell in a particular way. But note that the Bible say Jonah was in hell, David too and Jesus was there for three days.
Hell fire in many English translations is gotten from either of these three root words; Gehenna, Sheol and Hades. Sheol and hades means the place of non existence or common grave while Gehenna means the place of everlasting destruction or separation from God. None of them ever means a place of fiery torment.
It makes sense why some godly men in the Bible were said to be or have been in Hell. “Study to show thy self approved “

saddler:

Na so your brain dumb reach.

Edusouls:
heaven and hell is real more than you and ur small brains, all these generation Z breed una think say life ends in social media, enjoyment, dreaming about riches, doing yahoo, dating and messing around, una Dey reason from the anus really , seriously speaking this una generation get serious K leg haba

LordReed:


LoLz. I don't care about all this. The words in the Bible say hell fire and have caused people to believe so. You attempting to explain it away does nothing to alleviate the beliefs of billions of people in hell fire, something they can clearly see in their Bibles.

thinkmoney:

Bible was not written in English. It was translated from Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek. I just told u what the original words mean. I wish u peace

Banbanna:
Brainwashing you say . How else would I justify their idea of using their notion of heaven and hellfire?
It's just something they tell people from the onset of their childhood, that when you're good, you get rewarded with heaven and when you're bad, you're heading straight to hell. So the child then threads the path of goodness to avoid the eternal damnation that befalls bad, evil people.

Nice of you citing Oriental traditions of the Asians, but then, you can't just totally condemn Christianity. It has its own merits. There are lots of people who have, and still truthfully and humanely practices its faith and don't commit atrocities in the name of God. Those who do are seriously misguided.

Rossikk:


100% RUBBISH.

THAT BIBLE YOU READ IS FILLED WITH ROMAN LIES.

WE REMAIN CONSCIOUS AND ALIVE AFTER ‘DEATH’ BECAUSE WE ARE POWERFUL IMMORTAL BEINGS,

WE ARE NOT OUR BODIES ANYMORE THAN A SPACESUIT IS A PERSON.

OUR PHYSICAL BODIES SIMPLY ALLOW US TO PARTICIPATE IN EARTH LIFE.

DEATH IS SIMPLY A SHEDDING OF THAT BODY AS WE RETURN TO OUR PRE-BIRTH EXISTENCE IN THE REAL WORLD, NOT THIS SIMULATION WE CALL ‘LIFE ON EARTH’.

THIS HAS BEEN CONFIRMED BY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES AND OUT OF BODY EXPERIENCES.

WHEN YOU ‘DIE’, YOU WILL EXIT YOUR BODY, RISE UP, AND BE LOOKING AT YOUR BODY FROM THE CEILING.

YOU WILL REMAIN ALIVE BUT INVISIBLE TO PHYSICAL HUMANS.

BUT YOU WILL BE VISIBLE TO THOSE IN YOUR DIMENSION OF EXISTENCE.

Dinieoj:
Please if you finally get an answer to these questions please lemme know, Secondly why do Africans have to wait for the two religion to be brought to us, I'm really curious .

Michael547:

So what escapes the body after death?

RisenObinna:

I have questions for you.

1. Was Satan a perfect creation of God?
2. Did Satan fall before the creation of man?
3. If yes to both second questions, why did God not create a man that can't sin?

4. Will man fall again after reaching to heaven?
If no, why wasn't man created to be like he will be after being in heaven from the start?

5. Can God see tomorrow? If yes, did God know that man was going to fall? If he knows, why did he allow man to fall?

6. God hardened Pharaoh's heart against Israel, that was him taking out the will power from Pharoah to achieve his plan...
Why didn't God take away the will power from man after the creation?

7. Why did God allow Satan to tempt man?

Rossikk:


Your Consciousness.

The YOU that is reading these words.

Consciousness is energy without form or shape.

It does not depend on a physical body to EXIST.

Sure, it depends on a physical body to be a part of this physical world.

Otherwise you would be invisible.

Once the time to leave arrives, it leaves the physical body and returns home, with its full awareness and consciousness intact, and even expanded to its pre-birth state.

You are a POWERFUL immortal being,

You will never be extinguished or annihilated because you are an aspect of God.

You are a droplet from a great sea of Consciousness called GOD.

These facts are known to all the pre Christianity and pre Islam religions, including African religion.

It was the Europeans and Arabs who invented LIES about humans needing to worship THEIR gods or be condemned to an eternal burning furnace.

PURE LIES.

Michael547:

So are you saying that I was conscious somewhere before I was born? If yes, where?

Rossikk:


Absolutely you were very much alive before you were born here.

Where?

In the so called heaven, spirit world, afterlife, or whatever name you want to call it.

I just call it THE REAL WORLD.

It is said that when you return there, THIS Earth life feels like a short dream you had.

THERE feels more ‘real’ than here.

Also, linear TIME, or sequential time, does not exist there.

Everything happens all at once.

The Eternal Now, as it’s called.

It’s impossible to explain how that even works, looking at it from our dimension.

But that’s how it is. There’s no before or after or yesterday or tomorrow.

One more thing.

As humans on Earth, we are virtually BLIND to reality and existence.

We can only see 0.2% of matter in the universe.
The 99.8% is called Dark Matter by scientists.

The 0.2% we can see is only the tiny sliver of matter that reflects light.

In the Dark Matter universe resides the REAL WORLD filled with trillions and trillions of beings, worlds, manifestations of LIFE.

That is where we RETURN to after this Earth experience.

Michael547:

The bolded cracked me up😁😁😁
You are legitimately teaching what you don't even know.
Where are you getting this information from?

Rossikk:
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My point is that we had an even more profound MORALITY before Christianity.

Christianity did not strengthen our morals.

It eroded them.

Trashed them and gave us dehumanising lies about a phantom ‘hellfire’ to lock us into their lying religion out of fear.

Humans are not supposed to worship God out of fear.

Their relationship with the Divine is meant to be based on KNOWLEDGE, not fear.

If YOU were a God that created humanity, would you want them to FEAR you?

Would you torture them in an everlasting fire?

If so, you are a SICK person.

A psychopath.

Rest assured, the Supreme Being is not a psychopath, so the Christians are LYING about God.

Rossikk:


I am not a little kid like you.

I’ve been studying this stuff since you were in diapers, or probably before you were born.

There is no specific ‘name’ for the REAL WORLD where we all are headed to once we leave this world.

Why should there be?

Banbanna:
Have always held that line of thought and wondered how could a so called loving, merciful God be dreadful at the same time condemning billions of his own creation to everlasting fire, even over petty sins? It was that fear factor that pushed me away from Christianity.

Well, if we try to play God, we could argue that some people that have committed gruesome heinous crimes do deserve some severe punishment, but that they could just burn perpetually/eternally is sickening, mehn!
That somewhat makes the punisher as wicked as the one being punished. They're just more or less the same person.

I tend to see my God as loving, one who chastises his creatures with great life's lessons and experiences.

That's why I dislike that phrase commonly used by persons looking for love, when they say " God-fearing man/woman" . For me, It should rather be, " God-loving man/woman.

Jackanda1:
lols. I don't support the idea of people getting burnt for all eternity for any reason.

This is a part of christianity i still struggle with.

Shizzi23:


Are you saying God is a wicked man

Jackanda1:
Happy sunday.

The bible talks about hell and death been cast into the lake of fire.(Rev20:13-15)
This means every unsaved person is going to be swimming in fire for all eternity.

What about people who were unlucky to exist before the gospel got to their location? E.g people who lived and died before the gospel got to Nigeria.

What about most people in countries e.g north korea and other such countries who have little to no knowledge about christ?

What of people who were unfortunate(they're all going to hell) to be born into say islam, budhism, hinduism and other religious movements? You might say these people should simply convert to christianity just by hearing the gospel, but switching religion isn't that simple. They are plugged to their faith the same way you have been indoctrinated and plugged to yours.

What about other sects of christianity that aren't getting it right?

Are all of this people going to be thrown into the lake of fire recieving same punishment as shekau or Hitler for all eternity?

WorldRichest:


Let's assume there is. That is how I have been living my life. Just follow the Ten Commandments. If after death we discover there is no Hell, then we would have lost nothing

saddler:
The believe in heaven and hell is the most dumb and stupid thing any human can do.

All actions whether bad or good are rewarded here on earth.

You spirit doesn't have a body that will be burned nor do your spirit have a nervous system that reacts to pain.


Its all lies and falsehood concocted by the whiteman to control you.