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Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by mrvitalis(m): 6:38pm On Apr 05
IduNaOba:


Small visit by one or two UGM and another governor will take over. E no hard.
When you see the money working u won't complain
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by Benwems(m): 6:42pm On Apr 05
does anyone knows why lagos receives so much monthly revenue from the federal government when it's not an oil producing state?

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Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by Doyen2015(m): 8:13pm On Apr 05
I wonder why this move by the federal government at this time. It may not be unconnected to the upcoming elections in ondo state.
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MasterTeeUSA: 8:17pm On Apr 05
I wrote something similar for Oyo State...just charge N1000 for bungalow, N2000 for duplex and up and down...5 floors pay N5000 annually...Ibadan alone will raise more than the entire IGR that Oyo State collects. You hire staff that will cover some sections and Amotekun will provide cover...You issue receipts to be pasted at every house...if you default, it's 50% fee. You raise Billions. Oyo State tried to do valuations of each building, but they can't collect shit....not even 1% collection rate. Simplify the process even for local people to understand.. rake in massively.








mrvitalis:
I don't really know why states are crying

The back bone of any government around the world is property tax

There are over 250,000 houses in each of these stated in city n towns

Valued at a minimum of 10 million to 500 million

Say average of 35 million

A property tax of 1% value of house is not bad 3% is ideal.. So let's go to 1.5%



That's easy 131 billion

But once u do this know u must work,
Know street have to be paved
Streets have to be clean
Roads must work
Know propaganda of tribe and religion won't work

Maybe these are the reason they don't go for it since they have enough to steal but not to work

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Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by mrvitalis(m): 8:34pm On Apr 05
MasterTeeUSA:
I wrote something similar for Oyo State...just charge N1000 for bungalow, N2000 for duplex and up and down...5 floors pay N5000 annually...Ibadan alone will raise more than the entire IGR that Oyo State collects. You hire staff that will cover some sections and Amotekun will provide cover...You issue receipts to be pasted at every house...if you default, it's 50% fee. You raise Billions. Oyo State tried to do valuations of each building, but they can't collect shit....not even 1% collection rate. Simplify the process even for local people to understand.. rake in massively.








What is 1000 ?

How much would it cost to do road

A duplex should be paying nothing less than 1 million

Bungalows 500k minimum
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MasterTeeUSA: 9:45pm On Apr 05
How can they pay that ridiculous amount at Beere or Oje or Elekuro? You think of the poor of poor. Once you make that efficient, then you can begin to increase it for some areas...maybe N5000 for bungalow and N10,000 for the upstairs buildings.



mrvitalis:

What is 1000 ?

How much would it cost to do road

A duplex should be paying nothing less than 1 million

Bungalows 500k minimum
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by mrvitalis(m): 9:51pm On Apr 05
MasterTeeUSA:
How can they pay that ridiculous amount at Beere or Oje or Elekuro? You think of the poor of poor. Once you make that efficient, then you can begin to increase it for some areas...maybe N5000 for bungalow and N10,000 for the upstairs buildings.



Poor people don't own houses

Price those houses see how much they would tell u
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MasterTeeUSA: 10:11pm On Apr 05
I think you live in Abuja lol...go to Ibadan and you will see that some of them are poor and inherited those houses. I do think it might also make sense to price it based on the age of the houses.

1960 - 1980 1981 - 1990 1991 - 2000 2001 - 2010 2011 - 2024
Bungalow 5,000 10,000 15,000 20,000 25,000
Up/Down
plus Duplex 10,000 20,000 30,000 40,000 50,000

Three floors 15,000

Four floors 20,000

5+ floors 25,000

Hotels with multiple buildings will pay for each building, and so on.

Then you print it on small papers and go everywhere to distribute...then give POS to staff to collect and remit. Run jingles and raise IGR...then develop the State with loans using these resources as a backup. This is what Wike did and is doing...so you can raise billions and pay off the loans annually with plans to pay all loans within the life of the administration.





mrvitalis:

Poor people don't own houses

Price those houses see how much they would tell u
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by travelzcruix: 10:16pm On Apr 05
Akwaibom receives 26 bn, hmm.. it doesn't really show much on their people though.
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by Truths9ja: 10:19pm On Apr 05
Jostoman:
i no say na Adeleke be Una target. Wether you and your oga like it or not Adeleke will surely suceed.
he has failed woefully beyond redemption. You can be deceiving yourself here and not me. Adeleke has failed in fulfilling his campaign promises
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by travelzcruix: 10:38pm On Apr 05
israelmao:
Debts shouldn't be excuses for them not to perform,every state has debt it is serving.And why are the big states like Kaduna and Cross Rivers with great resources should rely solely on FAAC?What are they doing with their IGRs?
Let's just believe it's paper talk, what amazes me most is Cross River State, with huge resources in the state, every new government that comes in plays the blame game.

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Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by Willie2015: 11:04pm On Apr 05
[quote author=Penguin2 post=129279376]See how they used debt and rendered Adeleke incapable of doing any reasonable thing in Osun.

By the time debt is deducted, the poor man will have nothing left for infrastructure except for salaries.

After you will see idiots asking what Adeleke is doing in Osun.[/quote. No be the same Adeleke used N1billion to renovate govt house..On top say money no dey...
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by jaytee01(m): 5:43am On Apr 06
Truths9ja:
so tell me who plunged Osun State into debts. Osun state is currently receiving over #7b in FAAC . How much is the Fg deduction from Osun State? You better defend this guys with wisdom and not propaganda and lies. Lagos is the most indebted State in Nigeria 🇳🇬, Still Lagos state government keep on increasing in revenue. Ade dancer done failed woefully in governance
So you know more than PUNCH that wrote that Osun had negative allocation?
When you subtract the debt servicing deduction from the 7billion, what is remaining?
Una too like propaganda.
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by Arabaincubus: 6:04am On Apr 06
Osun state, since Aregbesola has been under.

Ondo state is the new addition - probably because of Aketi's illness.

Kadubs state is very surprising. It shows that El Rufai is a very dangerous person.
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by Iamanoited: 8:14am On Apr 06
VERY UNFAIR.
PLEASE RETURN FULL AUTONOMOUS POLICING RESOURCING AND ELECTIONEERING STATUSES TO OUR 36 CONSTITUTIONAL STATES NOW.

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Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by tollyboy5(m): 8:24am On Apr 06
mrvitalis:

You are only taxing house owners
House owners are not people?
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by mrvitalis(m): 8:40am On Apr 06
tollyboy5:

House owners are not people?
There is no serious country with housing tax below 1% of the value of the house
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by Truths9ja: 9:58pm On Apr 06
jaytee01:
So you know more than PUNCH that wrote that Osun had negative allocation?
When you subtract the debt servicing deduction from the 7billion, what is remaining?
Una too like propaganda.
how much is the debt Osun State is servicing per month?
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by BALLOSKI: 5:21am On Apr 07
mrvitalis:
I don't really know why states are crying

The back bone of any government around the world is property tax

There are over 250,000 houses in each of these stated in city n towns

Valued at a minimum of 10 million to 500 million

Say average of 35 million

A property tax of 1% value of house is not bad 3% is ideal.. So let's go to 1.5%



That's easy 131 billion

But once u do this know u must work,
Know street have to be paved
Streets have to be clean
Roads must work
Know propaganda of tribe and religion won't work

Maybe these are the reason they don't go for it since they have enough to steal but not to work
You're suggesting a man who's down should still be stomped on.
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MSGAMBLE9: 12:49pm On Apr 07
FatherOfJesus:
Ndi IGR, but debt Wan kill them
buh you can only borrow if you have means of payback... who go borrow erosion infested backward state in East Kobo when they know una no get real means...


Bank go ever borrow poor man millions even thousand? You should be ashamed!!!


Reason For one bit Okooro man! Yeyenatu oshi!!!
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by FatherOfJesus: 12:54pm On Apr 07
MSGAMBLE9:
buh you can only borrow if you have means of payback... who go borrow erosion infested backward state in East Kobo when they know una no get real means...


Bank go ever borrow poor man millions even thousand? You should be ashamed!!!


Reason For one bit Okooro man! Yeyenatu oshi!!!
Where's the means for Osun and Ekiti to pay back debts? Via skill mining?
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MSGAMBLE9: 12:58pm On Apr 07
Izuchukwu70:


Didn't he promise to clear the debts in 6 months after election? I remember him boasting that he will clear the debt during the debates and the former governor was reminding him to always tell the truth.
He was talking about workers arears and backlog of owned pensioners not state debt.... the state debt is structured to last decades...Okooro man learn to read and listen properly.


Why is that nobody would even borrow SE state a penny, naso e worst reach for una?


Yeye dey smell!!
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MSGAMBLE9: 1:07pm On Apr 07
FatherOfJesus:
Where's the means for Osun and Ekiti to pay back debts? Via skill mining?
If they don't have means and "Bank_able' Assets, Banks won't loans them.... Banks don't thrive on ethnic bigotry or Emotions like una...


Why don't they loans Abia or Imo and other SE states with their meagre shameful state revenue.... or you think SE don't need money? Even US has over 200% debt to it Economy size....


That is why your region is the most backward in Southern Nigeria, UNDP called SE "Southern Ghetto'....


Yeyenatu oshi!!!!!
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by FatherOfJesus: 1:22pm On Apr 07
MSGAMBLE9:
If they don't have means and "Bank_able' Assets, Banks won't loans them.... Banks don't thrive on ethnic bigotry or Emotions like una...


Why don't they loans Abia or Imo and other SE states with their meagre shameful state revenue.... or you think SE don't need money? Even US has over 200% debt to it Economy size....


That is why your region is the most backward in Southern Nigeria, UNDP called SE "Southern Ghetto'....


Yeyenatu oshi!!!!!


I am just asking because you know, Anambra and Imo economies are larger than any economy in southwest aside Lagos.

Don't defend those borrowing your destiny away even after taxing your to hell.
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MSGAMBLE9: 1:35pm On Apr 07
FatherOfJesus:
I am just asking because you know, Anambra and Imo economies are larger than any economy in southwest aside Lagos.

Don't defend those borrowing your destiny away even after taxing your to hell.
You claimed Imo and Anambra economy are larger than any SW state.... buh why is even the entire SE state having less state revenue than Oyo State alone and less than half of Ogun's....


https://www.nairaland.com/7762904/sit-at-home-southeast-no-economic-impact



It must be nzogbu-nzogbu economy.... cos we all know ghost and the poor don't pay taxes working people and businesses do....

https://www.nairaland.com/7661590/south-east-highest-number-poor-people



https://www.nairaland.com/7663446/lagos-ogun-kano-account-27


Your chestbeating is not adding up Okooro man....


Jokes on you!!!
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by FatherOfJesus: 1:47pm On Apr 07
MSGAMBLE9:

You claimed Imo and Anambra economy are larger than any SW state.... buh why is even the entire SE state having less state revenue than Oyo State alone and less than half of Ogun's....


https://www.nairaland.com/7762904/sit-at-home-southeast-no-economic-impact



It must be nzogbu-nzogbu economy.... cos we all know ghost and the poor don't pay taxes working people and businesses do....

https://www.nairaland.com/7661590/south-east-highest-number-poor-people



https://www.nairaland.com/7663446/lagos-ogun-kano-account-27


Your chestbeating is not adding up Okooro man....


Jokes on you!!!
Maybe east has less revenue because they are taxing their people from the onus and also borrowing away their destinies.

Have you thought of that?

Imo is about 3 times larger than Osun state, GDP wise.
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MSGAMBLE9: 2:06pm On Apr 07
FatherOfJesus:
Maybe east has less revenue because they are taxing their people from the onus and also borrowing away their destinies.

Have you thought of that?

Imo is about 3 times larger than Osun state, GDP wise.
Maybe? if they have bigger economy, then they should have more companies and more people working... why are they not paying taxes, or they are just ghost companies and people like the very well known ghost Ibo billionaires of the East?... Soludo is taxing anybody in Anambra and still failing woefully to increase revenue to respectable level....

Go and read debt profile of US and EU state, everybody need money to grow moreso Imo with half of Osun Revenue who go borrow that one loans?


Places where their people fled enmass everyday to other part to earn Livelihood is nothing buh POOR!!! GDP is based on federal allocation, development grant, Oil derivatives residue is not a basis for state productivity....

https://www.nairaland.com/7762904/sit-at-home-southeast-no-economic-impact




SE is not called Southern Ghetto by UNDP for no reason....
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by FatherOfJesus: 4:32pm On Apr 07
MSGAMBLE9:
Maybe? if they have bigger economy, then they should have more companies and more people working... why are they not paying taxes, or they are just ghost companies and people like the very well known ghost Ibo billionaires of the East?... Soludo is taxing anybody in Anambra and still failing woefully to increase revenue to respectable level....

Go and read debt profile of US and EU state, everybody need money to grow moreso Imo with half of Osun Revenue who go borrow that one loans?


Places where their people fled enmass everyday to other part to earn Livelihood is nothing buh POOR!!! GDP is based on federal allocation, development grant, Oil derivatives residue is not a basis for state productivity....

https://www.nairaland.com/7762904/sit-at-home-southeast-no-economic-impact




SE is not called Southern Ghetto by UNDP for no reason....
Well, the statistics says otherwise.

Debtors will low ecomomy like Osun should not brag.
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MSGAMBLE9: 9:29pm On Apr 07
FatherOfJesus:
Well, the statistics says otherwise.

Debtors will low ecomomy like Osun should not brag.
Low economy that her ( Osun) revenue is bigger than Ebonyi, Abia and Imo state combined.... is that not a Shame and a Joke on your barren Land while una hungry blodas keeps running enmass via Night buses to same state and region for survivability?

https://www.nairaland.com/7661590/south-east-highest-number-poor-people

https://www.legit.ng/business-economy/economy/1498215-the-nigerian-states-highest-internally-generated-revenue/

https://www.nairaland.com/7762904/sit-at-home-southeast-no-economic-impact


Yeye dey smell!!!! Awa southern ghetto bloda wan chestbeat!!!
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by FatherOfJesus: 9:32pm On Apr 07
MSGAMBLE9:
Low economy that her ( Osun) revenue is bigger than Ebonyi, Abia and Imo state combined.... is that not a joke on your barren hungry bloda who keeps running enmass to same state and region for survivability?

https://www.nairaland.com/7661590/south-east-highest-number-poor-people

https://www.legit.ng/business-economy/economy/1498215-the-nigerian-states-highest-internally-generated-revenue/

https://www.nairaland.com/7762904/sit-at-home-southeast-no-economic-impact


Yeye dey smell!!!! Awa southern ghetto bloda wan chestbeat!!!
Osun is dragging with northern states 😂
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by MSGAMBLE9: 9:39pm On Apr 07
FatherOfJesus:
Osun is dragging with northern states 😂
Well the link provided shows that the southern ghetto is only in league with NE ( a warzone) when it's comes to development.... nzogbu-nzogbu economy has suffered!!!


https://www.nairaland.com/7663446/lagos-ogun-kano-account-27


https://www.nairaland.com/7762904/sit-at-home-southeast-no-economic-impact


Numbers don't lie Okooro man this no be nzogbu-nzogbu propaganda.... Osun that has a bigger State revenue than 3 SE state combined ( Imo, Ebonyi and Abia)....



Yeye dey smell!!!
Re: Debt Servicing Gulps Ondo, Osun, Two Others Allocations by FatherOfJesus: 6:58am On Apr 08
MSGAMBLE9:
Well the link provided shows that the southern ghetto is only in league with NE ( a warzone) when it's comes to development.... nzogbu-nzogbu economy has suffered!!!


https://www.nairaland.com/7663446/lagos-ogun-kano-account-27


https://www.nairaland.com/7762904/sit-at-home-southeast-no-economic-impact


Numbers don't lie Okooro man this no be nzogbu-nzogbu propaganda.... Osun that has a bigger State revenue than 3 SE state combined ( Imo, Ebonyi and Abia)....



Yeye dey smell!!!
who takes your oluyole statistics seriously? 😂
Osun will soon be bought by Anambra

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