Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning):
“The fools (pagans, hypocrites, and Jews) among the people will say, ‘What has turned them (Muslims) from their Qiblah (prayer direction (towards Jerusalem)) to which they were used to face in prayer?’ Say, (O Muhammad SAW) ‘To Allah belong both, east and the west. He guides whom He wills to a Straight Way.’

Thus We have made you (true Muslims - real believers of Islamic Monotheism, true followers of Prophet Muhammad SAW and his Sunnah (legal ways)), a Wasat (just) (and the best) nation, that you be witnesses over mankind and the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) be a witness over you. And We made the Qiblah (prayer direction towards Jerusalem) which you used to face, only to test those who followed the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from those who would turn on their heels (i.e., disobey the Messenger). Indeed it was great (heavy) except for those whom Allah guided. And Allah would never make your faith (prayers) to be lost (i.e., your prayers offered towards Jerusalem). Truly, Allah is full of kindness, the Most Merciful towards mankind.

Verily! We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad’s SAW) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qiblah (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid- al-Haram (at Makkah). And wheresoever you people are, turn your faces (in prayer) in that direction. Certainly, the people who were given the Scriptures (i.e., Jews and the Christians) know well that, that (your turning towards the direction of the Ka‘bah at Makkah in prayers) is the truth from their Lord. And Allah is not unaware of what they do.”
[al-Baqarah 2:142-144].

Al-Bukhaari (41) narrated from al-Bara’ ibn ‘Aazib that when the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) first came to Madinah, he stayed with his grandfathers or his maternal uncles among the Ansaar, and he prayed facing towards Bayt al-Maqdis for sixteen or seventeen months. But he wanted his qiblah to be towards the Ka‘bah. The first prayer he offered (after the qiblah was changed) was ‘Asr prayer, and some people prayed with him. Then one of the men who had prayed with him went out and passed by some people who were praying in a mosque, and they were bowing. He said: I bear witness by Allah that I (just) prayed with the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) facing towards Makkah. And they turned around, as they were, to face towards the Ka‘bah. The Jews and the People of the Book used to like it when he prayed facing towards Bayt al-Maqdis, and when he turned to face towards the Ka‘bah, they did not like that.

Muslim (527) narrated from Anas that the Messenger of Allaah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) used to pray towards Bayt al-Maqdis, then it was revealed: “Verily, We have seen the turning of your (Muhammad’s) face towards the heaven. Surely, We shall turn you to a Qiblah (prayer direction) that shall please you, so turn your face in the direction of Al-Masjid Al-Haraam (at Makkah)” [al-Baqarah 2:144]. A man passed by Banu Salamah whilst they were bowing in Fajr prayer, and they had prayed one rak'ah. He called out: The qiblah has been changed, and they turned as they were towards the qiblah.

Muslim also narrated (526) that Ibn ‘Umar said: Whilst the people were praying Fajr in Quba’, someone came to them and said: Revelation came to the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) last night and he was commanded to face towards the Ka‘bah, so face towards it. They were facing towards Syria, so they turned to face the Ka‘bah.

FxMasterz:
Abu Deceived The Ignorant Christian is supposed to be the topic.

The deception there is that Abu played on the ignorance of the Christian who didn't know that Jews prayed facing the temple in Jerusalem because God placed His name in the Temple. The Jews don't bow to the temple but pray towards it because God put His name there:

"After the temple was dedicated, the Lord appeared to Solomon and told him that He had hallowed the temple `to put my name there for ever. " (1 Kings 9:3,)

In contrast, Muslims bow to the stone in ka'aba, they worship it and even kiss the stone. Idolatry!

It's interesting to know that Allah is not present everywhere. Allah is not the God of creation:

“If I go up to the heavens, you are there; if I make my bed in the depths, you are there. If I rise on the wings of the dawn, if I settle on the far side of the sea, even there your hand will guide me, your right hand will hold me fast” (Ps. 139:8–10).

Christians worship God facing anywhere because God is everywhere. God proves He's everywhere by answering us wherever we face.

The deception in Islam is too much. The Jews who faced the temple in Jerusalem were not worshipping Allah but Yahweh. They were not Muslims.

SIRTee15:
Deception of the highest order.
Shikenah Glory of God physically dwells in the tabernacle when Israelites used to bow to the temple. That's why it's called holy temple.

People get killed when they enter the tabernacle in the temple and become careless. The presence of God in the temple will not tolerate corruption to his holiness.
Israelites didn't bow down to the temple but the glory of God and his presence in the temple.
So when Israelites see the temple, they know they are looking as a structure filled with the presence of God.

Muslims bow down to a black stone that's not holy in anyway. A stone that had been stolen, mutilated and thrown back into the kabba because it was useless to the people who stole it.

What U guys do is paganism. Associating stone with God is idolatry and he hates it.

Deuteronomy 16
22 and do not erect a sacred stone for worship, for these the Lord your God hates.

SIRTee15:
Someone should tell me the difference btw these two set of stone worshippers....

Funny enough both insist they are worshiping God and not the stone. One Eledumare the other Allah.

AbuTwins:


The more reason we say you guys are ignorant! The Kaaba remains a stone Allah attributed to Himself and the enlightened Christian believed the explanation.

This is your David bowing towards the Holy temple!
Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else. Psalm 138:1-2

This is your Solomon!
1 Kings 8:29
May Your eyes be open toward this temple night and day, toward the place of which You said, 'My Name shall be there,' so that You may hear the prayer that Your servant prays toward this place.

This is David again!
Psalm 5:7
But I will enter Your house by the abundance of Your loving devotion; in reverence I will bow down toward Your holy temple.


This is David again!
Psalm 28:2
Hear my cry for mercy when I call to You for help, when I lift up my hands toward Your holy sanctuary.

And Daniel got on his kneels and prayed!
Daniel 6:10
Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.

Ignorant hypocrites and liars!
Who told you we worship the stone from our texts?

FxMasterz:


David didn't bow to any temple. The temple was not in existence in David's time. Psalm 138 wasn't written by David. Muslims are very ignorant and yet arrogant to think that they know the Bible more than Christians.

Muslims bow to the ka'aba but Jews bow TOWARDS the temple. They don't bow to the temple. Hope you understand my point? Simple English there. Boeing towards is different from bowing to.

Muslims kiss the stone and worship it. Jews don't. The ka'aba is the idol Allah that Muslims worship.

AbuTwins:
Christian A – Why do Muslims worship the Kaaba? Is that not idolatry? The Kaaba was know to be an Idol worship center so why do you chose it as a direction you face during prayer? Is Allah same as Hubal? Is Allah Baal? Is Allah the moon god?

Abu – You don’t need to ask all the questions at a go! I know you have preconceived opinions about Islam as regards all these so ask gently and one at a time. We can cover what we can today and continue another day. Be calm!

Christian A – Okay. Why do Muslims worship the Kaaba when Kaaba is neck deep in Idolatry? Let’s start from there!

Abu – That’s a good question. Where did you get the notion that Muslims worship the Kaaba from? Worship includes command, intention and then action of worship! Who commanded Muslims to worship the stone? Do think anyone has the intention to worship the stone at Kaaba?

Christian A – I see it. People who go to Mecca (for Pilgrimage) bow to the black stone. All Muslims too pray to the black stone. This is evidence they worship the black stone! That is idolatry!

Abu - Will you calm down please! This is not a fight! From the Muslim’s belief where do you think Allah is physically?

Christian A – Allah like God should be present everywhere!

Abu – That’s false! Allah says many times in the Qur’an that He rose over His throne which is above the seven heavens! Allah is only present everywhere by His Omniscient Knowledge.

Christian A – Okay so how is that related to you guys worshipping the Kaaba?

Abu – Muslims bow facing the Kaaba according to the command of Allah in the Qur’an. At the start of Islam the Muslims faced the temple in Jerusalem during prayers till Allah changed it.

Do you think they were earlier worshipping the temple in Jerusalem in idolatry?


Christian A – No! They wouldn’t worship the temple in Jerusalem. The Temple in Jerusalem was never used for idolatry like the Kaaba!

Abu – Did you see any idols being worshipped within the Kaaba?

Christian A – No, but there are hundreds of idols within it before.

Abu – The message of Islam is against Idolatry. I told you earlier that the Allah we worship is above the seven heavens. He is not the Black stone of the Kaaba. Do you agree Muslims worship Allah alone?

Christian A – Yes! But why bow to the stone and some kisses it? Why pray facing it?

Abu – We bow to worship Allah and we face the Kaaba based on Allah’s command in the Qur’an and Sunnah.

Christian A – That is idolatry!

Abu – It is Biblical!

Christian A – How is it Biblical? Don’t start another heresy!

Abu – I told you earlier that Muslims were praying facing Jerusalem before which you agree is not idolatry! If you didn’t see any idols in the Kaaba how will you say it is idolatry?

Christian A – Okay, It is not proven that idols are in Kaaba today but it was in the past.

Abu: When the Muslims took over the Kaaba all the idols were destroyed! Initially, the foundation of the Kaaba was raised by Prophets Abraham and his son Ishmael! So we believe it was initially for the worship of Allah!

Christian A – Alright, I get that. So, the idolators took it from the descendants of Ishmael and used it for idolatry later.

Abu – Yes! So what remains of your worship of the Kaaba by Muslims?

Christian A – It is awkward to bow to stones in worship to Allah over the heavens!

Abu – But that is Biblical.
Here are the Biblical verses. I don’t quote the Qur’an since you are yet to believe in it with sincerity!

Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else. Psalm 138:1-2

1 Kings 8:29
May Your eyes be open toward this temple night and day, toward the place of which You said, 'My Name shall be there,' so that You may hear the prayer that Your servant prays toward this place.

Psalm 5:7
But I will enter Your house by the abundance of Your loving devotion; in reverence I will bow down toward Your holy temple.

Psalm 28:2
Hear my cry for mercy when I call to You for help, when I lift up my hands toward Your holy sanctuary.

Christian A Waoh! It’s like I have never read those verses before in the Bible. This is amazing!

Abu – Yes, but know that we only worship Allah has He has commanded through His final Prophet Muhammad (salallahu alayhi wasalam)

Christian A Now I get it. The Kaaba is like the Sanctuary of Allah as mentioned in that Bible verse!

Abu Exactly! It is the House of Allah as Allah attributed it to Himself!

It is narrated in al-Bukhaari (1597) and Muslim (1270) that ‘Umar ibn al-Khattaab (may Allaah be pleased with him) the second Caliph after the Prophet said of the Black Stone when he kissed it: “By Allaah, I know that you are only a stone and you can neither bring benefit nor cause harm. Were it not that I had seen the Messenger of Allaah kissing you I would not have kissed you.” So when we Muslims pray facing the direction of the Ka’bah, we do so because Allaah has commanded us to do that. If he had commanded us to pray facing in any other direction, we would have had to do that.
I think we can continue some other time!
Are you now convinced that Muslims don’t worship the Kaaba?
Christian A – Yes. I will look for those verses you said myself where Muslims were facing Jerusalem before. I know Muslims worship Allah alone and they say Allah is just one!

Abu Yes, Allah is just one!

Christian A – Thank you for the patience!

Abu Bye! Let’s meet again!

You can check up the verses below later at your free time!

AbuTwins:


You should compare that with vicarious atonement where Jesus's father send him to be sacrificed for your sins!

AbuTwins:


The more reason we say you guys are ignorant! The Kaaba remains a stone Allah attributed to Himself and the enlightened Christian believed the explanation.

This is your David bowing towards the Holy temple!
Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else. Psalm 138:1-2

This is your Solomon!
1 Kings 8:29
May Your eyes be open toward this temple night and day, toward the place of which You said, 'My Name shall be there,' so that You may hear the prayer that Your servant prays toward this place.

This is David again!
Psalm 5:7
But I will enter Your house by the abundance of Your loving devotion; in reverence I will bow down toward Your holy temple.


This is David again!
Psalm 28:2
Hear my cry for mercy when I call to You for help, when I lift up my hands toward Your holy sanctuary.

And Daniel got on his kneels and prayed!
Daniel 6:10
Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.

Ignorant hypocrites and liars!
Who told you we worship the stone from our texts?

AbuTwins:


The more reason we say you guys are ignorant! The Kaaba remains a stone Allah attributed to Himself and the enlightened Christian believed the explanation.

This is your David bowing towards the Holy temple!
Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else. Psalm 138:1-2

This is your Solomon!
1 Kings 8:29
May Your eyes be open toward this temple night and day, toward the place of which You said, 'My Name shall be there,' so that You may hear the prayer that Your servant prays toward this place.

This is David again!
Psalm 5:7
But I will enter Your house by the abundance of Your loving devotion; in reverence I will bow down toward Your holy temple.


This is David again!
Psalm 28:2
Hear my cry for mercy when I call to You for help, when I lift up my hands toward Your holy sanctuary.

And Daniel got on his kneels and prayed!
Daniel 6:10
Now when Daniel learned that the decree had been published, he went home to his upstairs room where the windows opened toward Jerusalem. Three times a day he got down on his knees and prayed, giving thanks to his God, just as he had done before.

Ignorant hypocrites and liars!
Who told you we worship the stone from our texts?

AbuTwins:


So who wrote this liar?
Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else! Psalm 138:1-2

Majority of the Muslims have never been to the Kaaba. They bow towards its direction. Why do you have to keep telling lies and misrepresenting facts?

Bowing towards: When you bow towards someone or something, it means you are directing your bow in their general direction. It can be a gesture of respect, acknowledgement, or reverence. Bowing towards signifies the act of physically orienting yourself in the direction of the person or object you are bowing towards.

Bowing to: On the other hand, when you bow to someone, it implies a more specific action of showing deference or submission to that person. Bowing to someone indicates that you are acknowledging their authority, status, or superiority. It is a gesture of respect and humility, often used in formal or ceremonial contexts.


What is worship?
How do we worship the Kaaba?
How is kissing worship in Christianity?
When Jesus put his face to the ground who was he worshipping?

AbuTwins:


So who wrote this liar?
Of David. I give You thanks with all my heart; before the gods I sing Your praises. I bow down toward Your holy temple and give thanks to Your name for Your loving devotion and Your faithfulness; You have exalted Your name and Your word above all else! Psalm 138:1-2

Majority of the Muslims have never been to the Kaaba. They bow towards its direction. Why do you have to keep telling lies and misrepresenting facts?

Bowing towards: When you bow towards someone or something, it means you are directing your bow in their general direction. It can be a gesture of respect, acknowledgement, or reverence. Bowing towards signifies the act of physically orienting yourself in the direction of the person or object you are bowing towards.

Bowing to: On the other hand, when you bow to someone, it implies a more specific action of showing deference or submission to that person. Bowing to someone indicates that you are acknowledging their authority, status, or superiority. It is a gesture of respect and humility, often used in formal or ceremonial contexts.


What is worship?
How do we worship the Kaaba?
How is kissing worship in Christianity?
When Jesus put his face to the ground who was he worshipping?

SIRTee15:


Abu come here and tell us who is the pagan between these two worshippers.

Both surround stone and bow down to it. But hypocrite Abu is going to tell his who is the pagan.

U guys better sit down and have a retrospection on what U worship. Shouting one God up and down will not help U.

If U want to bow down to a stone, U don't need to travel to Mecca to do that. There are lots of sacred stones here in Africa.

FxMasterz:


Solomon was the one who built the temple. It wasn't it existence in Dave's day. How can David bow to a temple that didn't exist? You Ignorant Muslim.

David wrote a portion of the Psalms, not all the Psalms. Research before calling someone a liar for educating you.

May God open your eyes. They even said Abraham built the ka'aba. Liars!

SIRTee15:


Stop lying.
U guys bow down to a stone. U associate a stone with God, a practice he hates.

How this is not idolatry is simply beyond me.
Muhammad did a strong one on u Muslims. Very strong one.

TenQ:

Can you give me one place where anyone was Commanded to worship facing any direction?

Please what do you say of this

John 17:1:
"These words spoke Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify your Son, that your Son also may glorify you:"

Is this a new commandment of where to face in prayers?

TenQ:

Always about one fictitious story after another. What is the real name of the Christian you interviewed?

SIRTee15:


The Father is invisible, God is a spirit.
So your parody is very weak and lame.

AbuTwins:


Then quote one verse where this is proven from the Qur'an?

I have quoted people from the Bible worshipping temples!

AbuTwins:


So tell me O liar, who put David's name in that verse i quoted? Psalm 138:1-2

AbuTwins:

Moses, David, Daniel, Solomon etc are pagan in your Bible!



All of them were praying towards a temple which is of course made of stone too!
Why can't they pray to God directly?
Why didn't God rebuke them?


That should be for you! Your scripture is continuously changed dubiously by bible interpreters! The Originals manuscript of your Bible is lost!
The copies of copies available does not contain any core Trinity concept nor does it mentions the three Gods in trinity as coequal or Coeternal!



Let us continue to copy Daniel, Solomon and David to bow like them!
They are Muslims too!

SIRTee15:


Continue to delulu yourself.
God was present in the temple when Solomon bow down to the temple. God dwells in the temple physically, he was in the tabernacle of the temple.
David and Daniel never bowed to a temple. Read your bible well.

FxMasterz:


Ignorant Muslim. Point out David's name in the verse!

AbuTwins:


Quote Psalm 138:1-2

FxMasterz:

Solomon was the one who built the temple. It wasn't it existence in Dave's day. How can David bow to a temple that didn't exist? You Ignorant Muslim.
David wrote a portion of the Psalms, not all the Psalms. Research before calling someone a liar for educating you.
May God open your eyes. They even said Abraham built the ka'aba. Liars!

SIRTee15:


Mr Man,
God hates associating him with stones. I already quote the verse and will do so again.

Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a carved stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.
Lev 26.1

God clearly says DO NOT BOW DOWN BEFORE A STONE, IT DOESNT MATTER WHETHER YOU WORSHIP THE STONE OR NOT, IT'S IRRELEVANT, DO NOT DO IT.
GOD HATES IT.

And never set up sacred stone for worship, for the Lord your God hates them.
Deuteronomy 16.22

IT'S UNBELIEVABLE MUSLIMS PRACTICE WHAT GOD CLEARLY HATES YET WANTS US TO BELIEVE THEY WORSHIP THE GOD OF THE BIBLE.

OBEDIENCE IS BETTER THAN SACRIFICE.

MUHAMMED WHO NEVER READ THE BIBLE TOLD U GUYS TO BOW BEFORE A STONE WHICH IS A SIN AND DISOBEDIENCE TO THE COMMANDMENT OF GOD.

NOW THAT U MUSLIMS HAVE READ THE BIBLE AND NOW KNOW BOWING BEFORE A STONE IS A SIN. WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE TO CONTINUE THE PAGAN PRACTICE.

Abu twins know this well....bowing b4 a stone can never come from God. Simple.

FxMasterz:


Screenshot:

MaxInDHouse:
During the call to prayer in Mecca you will see security guards standing around the stone while worshipers are bowing towards the stone.

Questions:

Are those guards not Muslims?

What are they guarding against?

Are there criminals among Muslims?

Is the call to prayer not for the guards?