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FROM WHAT I HAVE STUDIED,IF THERE IS REALLY HEAVEN,NOT EVERYBODY WILL GO TO HEAVEN,ONLY 144 000 PEOPLE,12 000 EACH FROM THE TWELVE TRIBES OF JUDAH WILL GO TO HEAVEN AND THEY WILL ACT AS ELDERS IN HEAVEN TO FORM A NEW GOVERMENT WITH JESUS TO GOVERN THE NEW EARTH WHICH IS PARADISE,PARADISE IS WHAT WE WILL INHERIT IF WE FOLLOW THE WAYS OF THE LORD.,HEAVEN WAS NOT PROMISED TO MANKIND BECAUSE IT IS THE DWELLING PLACE OF THE MOST HIGH GOD AND THE EARTH IS HIS STOOLTO WHICH HE REST HIS FEETS

THIS 144 000 ELDERS ARE LIKE SAINT THAT ARE VOID OF ANY SIN,PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLETELY RIGHTEOUS FROM BIRTH NOT LIKE OUR NAIRALAND RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT PROMOTES VIOLENCE AGAINST PALESTINAS

I WAS BORN A CHRISTAIN AND I BELIEVE IN HEAVEN BECAUSE WE ARE NOT HERE IN THIS WORLD ON OUR OWN WILL,WE DO NOT HAVE THE POWER OVER DEATH AND LIFE SO DEFINITELY THERE MUST BE AN HIGHER POWER THAT OVERSEES THE CONTROL OF LIFE AND DEATH WHICH IS JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.

DESPITE ME BEING A CHRISTAIN WHAT I DO NOT FIND CONVINCING IS THE CONCEPT OF HELL FIRE,THAT I WONT BELIEVE BECAUSE HOW CAN YOU BE IN A BURNING FIRE FOR MANY YEARS AND YOU WONT DIE OF THE CONSTANT PAIN,YOU DEFINITELY MIGHT GET USE TO IT.

FOR GOD SO LOVE THE WORLD THAT HE GAVE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON,GOD THAT LOVES US IN HIS INFINITE MERCY I DONT THINK IS AN AUTOCRATIC RULER THAT WOULD WANT TO PUNISH SINNERS FOR SIN COMMITTED,AND IF WE ARE TO LOOK WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS WORLD WHERE THE PRINCE OF DARKNESS SATAN IS THE ONE RULING THE WHOLE WHOLE,EVERYONE IS DEEP IN SIN,ID THERE IS REALLY AN HELL FIRE 6.9 BILLION PEOPLE OF THE 7 BILLION PEOPLE WILL GO TO HELL FIRE,BEACUSE THIS WORLD IS DEEP ROOTED IN SIN,SO I FEEL GOD WOULD NOT WANT TO LOSE A WHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE TO SATAN TO HELL THAT IS WHY I CONDENM THE CONCEPT OF HELL,

DONT BE SUPRISE THAT MOST OF THE MOST WICKED INDIVIDUALS AND POLITICIANS WE CONDENM WILL ENJOY THE NEW EARTH

OUR LORD WORKS IN A MYSTERIOUS WAY AND I AM SURE HE WONT LOSE PEOPLE TO SATAN

Creamypie:
thats y you are a full time cretin.testimony my foot. Y not die and GI heaven. Even oyedepo no go gree die and GI heaven. Read bible, Una no go gree read, instead na to dey wait make pastors dey tickle Una ears with wetin Una wan hear. Na when u dey 6 minutes b4 death u go know that all your life, u have been deceived by your pastor. Shameless dunce go and read Ecclesiastes 3 verse 18-21. Pay very close attention to verses 19. Also Ecclesiastes 9 verse 5. Infact, I know say u no get bible. Ask your deceiver pastor to read it from his bible directly to you next time you go to your venue of willful deceit they call church.

I said nothing about religion or church, you loud idiot.

Electrochemistry:
One fundamental and recurring pattern observable in our universe is evolution.
As smaller dwarf stars evolve into giant stars so do living things evolve from unicellular microorganisms into multicellular organisms.

When we observe closely we will suspect a graduation from none living things characterized by inability to maintain their bulkness to living things that are able to maintain their bulkness against forces of degradation. The presence of ammonium radicals in water signals the beginning of life form. Then virus which is regarded as the link between the living and the non living things.

The most complicated and sophisticated level of organizations is found in mammals of which homo sapiens is leading.

Now the major difference between homo sapiens and other higher mammals such as Chimpanzees, Orangutans, is intellect, i.e. ability to reason and acquire knowledge. This makes man the most evolved species in the world.

Now why is man so advanced and so distinct from other lifeforms? Because man has something that's not present in other lives.

Man is a tripartite being composed of the body, the soul and the spirit. The spirit of man is eternal. This means that whoever is born into this world is in the thrills of eternity because it can never die.

When a man dies his body decomposes like other animals but his soul and his spirit which we call the heart continues to live in the spirit world.

Now the idea of evolution continues in the spirit world. In the spirit world, the idea of evolution takes another form, you evolve not based on your level of organization but based on the content or the integrity of your heart.

The license to evolution in the spirit world is love. So the hearts that are full of love in it go to the higher heavens. those without love in it have to evolve before moving on to the higher heavens.


The concept of love was first mentioned and emphasized by Jesus Christ. He taught us about love so that we we can have the licence to highest heavens.
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By highest heavens I mean the dwelling place of the divinity, the saints, the Seraphins, the Cherubins, the holy angels, and the Thrones.

This is where the most evolved lives live; God Himself being the perfect form of all imperfections.

Now in heavens there are angels with different hierarchies.

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Angels

There are invisible beings with almost every perfection possible, who are always around us, who massively outnumber us, and who definitely outthink us! I’m not talking about aliens. I’m talking about Angels and Demons.

We learn from Scripture, Tradition and the official teaching of the Church that each angel is a person with intelligence and freedom. They are immortal creatures who are pure spirits possessing no physical body yet surpass in perfection all visible creatures.

In her diary St Faustyna writes of a profound experience with an angel: (630) Then I saw one of the seven spirits near me, radiant as at other times, under a form of light. I constantly saw him beside me when I was riding on the train. I saw an angel standing on every church we passed, but surrounded by a light which was paler than that of the spirit who was accompanying me on the journey, and each of these spirits who were guarding the churches bowed his head to the spirit who was near me.

When I entered the convent gate at Warsaw, the spirit disappeared. I thanked God for His goodness, that He gives us angels for companions. Oh, how little people reflect on the fact that they always have beside them such a guest, and at the same time a witness to everything! Remember, sinners, that you likewise have a witness to all your deeds.

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There are three levels or hierarchies of angels and three groups within each hierarchy – making nine categories or choirs of angels

1. The Seraphim, the Cherubim, and the Thrones.

2. The Dominions, Virtues, and Powers.

3. The Principalities, the Archangels, and the Angels.

The mission of the first and highest hierarchy of angels, the Seraphim, the Cherubim, and the Thrones is to contemplate the infinite goodness of God and the proper goal of all things. The Seraphim communicate the love of God, the Cherubim communicate the truth of God, and The Thrones communicate the purpose of all things to the next hierarchy of angels.

The Angels closest to God are the Seraphim. Their name means “the burning ones” or “the Angels of Fire” because God is a consuming fire of love. The Seraphim are set on fire by the love of God which they communicate to the others. Isaiah Chapter 6 describes the Seraphim: I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. Above him stood the seraphim; each had six wings: with two he covered his face, and with two he covered his feet, and with two he flew. And one called to another and said: “Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of hosts; the whole earth is full of his glory.”

We literally join the Seraphim in their hymn of praise in each Mass right before the consecration of the Eucharist because we are entering the presence of Almighty God with them.

The Cherubim excel in their knowledge of God. St. Thomas Aquinas speculated that Lucifer was probably a Cherub rather than a Seraph, since the burning love of Seraphim is opposite to pride, whereas great knowledge of truth, which the Cherubim possess, can more easily lead to pride.

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The second hierarchy of Angels is the Dominions, Virtues, and Powers

Their mission is to govern the material world, control the elements, the seasons, the stars, even the sun and moon – in short, all aspects of nature.

The idea of the Angels controlling the turning of the seasons or the rotation of the planets may sound farfetched to some, but keep in mind what we can call the “more the merrier principle” with His Church. The more God gets his creatures involved in His divine actions, the more his creatures are made holy, and the more God is given glory. Whenever free creatures use their freedom to cooperate with God in the fulfillment of his divine plan, it is both pleasing to God and a grace for the creature.

Every parent knows it is more satisfying when the child cleans his or her room on their own, even though the parent certainly can do the cleaning by their own efforts. The same is true for God. He could put forth all the efforts necessary for the governing of creation on His own and by His own power, but it gives him more glory when his angels cooperate in the fulfillment of God’s will.

For this reason, St. Thomas nicknamed the Angels, “God’s secondary causes” because God chooses to do all possible in his creation through the intercession of His Angels.

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The third or lowest hierarchy of Angels is the Principalities, Archangels, and Guardian Angels

They have a three-fold mission:

I. To defend us against Satan and the demons – as St. Michael does.

II. To help us know the will of God – as Gabriel does when announcing God’s plan to Mary and telling Joseph to take Mary as his wife and to escape when Herod tries to kill the baby Jesus.

III. To heal us – as St. Raphael does

The Principalities, as the “spiritual generals,” have the greatest authority of this lowest hierarchy in carrying out God’s plan during the spiritual warfare for souls that takes place each and every day of our life on earth.


The Archangels are leaders and messengers of great importance in the world of man.

These Angels preside over a multitude of peoples and also deliver the most important messages to humanity.

The last group of Angels are the Guardian Angels.

The Catechism teaches that from its beginning until death, every human person is surrounded by the watchful care and intercession of a Guardian Angel.

"Beside each believer stands an angel as protector and shepherd leading him to life."

I wonder if my Guardian Angel would be willing, in the evening, to review my day with me?

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We are making a big mistake if we live as if angels do not exist

Dr. Mark Miravalle, in his book Time to Meet the Angels, shares in the insights of a mystic who relates what Jesus wants us to know about the Angels

My children, there is so much talk of the enemy and the enemy is so glorified in your world, that many souls forget that heaven is far and away more powerful than the pitiful band of bitter ones who serve darkness. These want only your misery. Conversely, the unlimited number of good and holy servants, want only your joy and safety. But your prayers are necessary to mobilize all of this power. In these times, many souls spend time with darkness through their activities and recreation. In doing so, souls are inviting the enemy’s companionship. If souls do not invite our companionship, through prayers and requests, we do not force ourselves. So surround yourself with all that is Light and the enemy will avoid you. Ask for an honor guard of My angels and you will be enveloped in powerful beings from heaven who will insure that you complete your missions in safety. Children, you are God’s little creatures. You will not be abandoned.

If man has an immortal soul, Then what's your understanding of of Gen,. 2:7 and Eccl. 12:7?

Quintessence44:
I said nothing about religion or church, you loud idiot.

u just confirmed ur foolery

Heaven is only 17 blocks away from hell

Dtruthspeaker:
Woman make heaven?

The world would end when a woman makes heaven, so leave daughter aside

So, evil people hate the rigbteous people and the righteous hate evil people and evil people have always been killing , so there is no way a righteos person will go to heaven and be bothered that her evil mother and people are going to hellfire.

Even us barely escaped it, so we would just be thankful that we escaped.

Is this a fact or assumption?

Are you saying daughter will hate mother ?

adams123:
I hope you are a Muslim? If not, no matter the good work that you did your reward is only on this earth.. you can't be rewarded with any good in the hereafter if you refused to serve/worship GOD the way you ought to.
In ISLAM, heaven is being described but at the end it was capped that we would see what ones mind can't imagine or comprehend.
May we all die as Muslims so that we can be in a perpetual enjoyment.
Love you all!

Seriously, me don tire for heaven n hell matter

OyinO:
It's not heaven you saw, it's your own brain imagination.

no let my jealousy kill you o

geoworldedu:
Do they play bettting in heaven and get drunk too? Pls i don't expect you to edit or modify what you've said before o.

They have special occasions they do like the way we celebrate Xmas and all, they hardly eat meat but the angels drink wine and other drinks. Don't know if they get drunk sha. They have a very huge stadium 🏟️ called the SHAMAYIN. This is where the entertainment goes down, They play football, Tennis, Golf, swimming etc and all kinds of sport we do on earth and God comes watches and he gets happy 😊.

They sing all kinds of music and perform live shows.
He blesses his children. They call him Father, Yaweh, Ahava( Love) So many instruments that are not here on earth is in Heaven, Arch Angel Gabriel is the best Musician amongst the Arch Angels. He introduced some of musical instruments to Man Kind like the piano 🎹

geoworldedu:
Go and read our bible very well, you will discover how shitty your comment is. The book of revelation tells us directly how heaven is like. There are ancient seals, ancient scrolls, white garments, incense, horses, fire etc in heaven. Can you know more than John who saw the future of heaven and wrote it in a scroll? The lamb that is slain in heaven will be angry with you right now.

The bible said in all their getting get understanding, if God can bless human brains to evolve through the years, do you think the Most High will be old and archiac?

Infact The Houses in Heaven are astonishingly awesome than the ones on earth. They are built with Diamonds, Gold and name it, even more beautiful precious stones than the ones on earth. Different colours of skies changing from time to time. They dress nice in heaven like we do on earth 🌎.

They play Soccer, video games. Just name it. Only they they do not have sex so when it's Sundays which they call the Hour or Praise all of the billions of Angles under the guidance of the 12 Arch Angels which they all fly to SHAMAYIN and turn into their Angelic form. There in SHAMAYIN they entertain God with sports, music and name it.

OKOATA:
They have special occasions they do like the way we celebrate Xmas and all, they hardly eat meat but the angels drink wine and other drinks. Don't know if they get drunk sha. They have a very huge stadium 🏟️ called the SHAMAYIN. This is where the entertainment goes down, They play football, Tennis, Golf, swimming etc and all kinds of sport we do on earth and God comes watches and he gets happy 😊.

They sing all kinds of music and perform live shows.
He blesses his children. They call him Father, Yaweh, Ahava( Love) So many instruments that are not here on earth is in Heaven, Arch Angel Gabriel is the best Musician amongst the Arch Angels. He introduced some of musical instruments to Man Kind like the piano 🎹

Do they play gamble in heaven?

BABANGBALI:
you don't have to die before you see heaven. I've seen it several times before and I've been there too.

Next time u go there, stay there.

Orch1981:
Die as Muslim?
Very funny dude

No mind d guy

adams123:
I hope you are a Muslim? If not, no matter the good work that you did your reward is only on this earth.. you can't be rewarded with any good in the hereafter if you refused to serve/worship GOD the way you ought to.
In ISLAM, heaven is being described but at the end it was capped that we would see what ones mind can't imagine or comprehend.
May we all die as Muslims so that we can be in a perpetual enjoyment.
Love you all!

Any yeye hereafter na six feet. No go jones.

Honchoslim16:
i still dey reason this church business.. Cos the way 9ja be now ehn

Go for it. Ull make it.

Or lemme say ur chances are high if u play ur cards right and ur expectation is reasonable.

E go hard at d start sha.

Most of the so called pastors ure looking at today started out one day by asking themselves this very question ure asking

oroje1:
If man has an immortal soul, Then what's your understanding of of Gen,. 2:7 and Eccl. 12:7?

Ecclesiastes 12:7—“Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it”

The physical body dies but the spiritual body, the heart, lives forever. At the point of death the spirit leaves the body and goes to the God, the spirit world where it continues to exist as a spirit.

Genesis 2:7-- "then the Lord God formed man from the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and the man became a living being"

God created man to live forever on earth but man ate the forbidden fruit and became a living soul. At that point the human spirit became evil and can no longer sustain the body to live forever again but God quickly fixed this for us when He sent His only begotten Son to die for so as to redeem and sanctify our hearts.

When God created man he used two substances: the dust which was from the earth and His spirit which is eternal. The spirit is from God and can never die since God Himself can never die. You're only temporarily away from the body but present with the Lord.

When the trumpet sounds, God will rebuild your physical body then your spirit will reunite with a new body and you will live forever with a body that can no longer die.

JoeEeL:
Go for it. Ull make it.

Or lemme say ur chances are high if u play ur cards right and ur expectation is reasonable.

E go hard at d start sha.

Most of the so called pastors ure looking at today started out one day by asking themselves this very question ure asking

🤲🏽

Quintessence44:
Everywhere is a ‘physical realm’ to those who dwell in it.

In heaven, people around you don’t appear as ghosts or immaterial beings. They look as ‘physical’ and solid as people you see on Earth.

Nope

JoeEeL:
Next time u go there, stay there.

dem no dey gree make person fok for there

BABANGBALI:
dem no dey gree make person fok for there

Oh okay, the time u went, all the minutes u spent there, u saw no guy tidying up a lady's ass abi?

Whoa, u observe so fast.

SeriouslySense:
It is more than a concept it is concrete, and you should relax your thinking, God has it covered.

At the end of the day, God loves you more than your parents. God is love, this is why he came into the flesh and took the punishment we all deserved.

The daughter can pray for her mum and who knows. God thoughts are higher than our thought, as the heaven is higher than the earth.

Are there cars in heaven

MT:
Is this a fact or assumption?

Are you saying daughter will hate mother ?

If you had a mother like this would you love her?

https://www.nairaland.com/8059991/very-toxic-mother-please-advice#129408516

https://www.nairaland.com/6756108/relate-mom-toxic-person/1#106816964

https://www.nairaland.com/6444478/disowned-mother#99610714

OKOATA:
They have special occasions they do like the way we celebrate Xmas and all, they hardly eat meat but the angels drink wine and other drinks. Don't know if they get drunk sha. They have a very huge stadium 🏟️ called the SHAMAYIN. This is where the entertainment goes down, They play football, Tennis, Golf, swimming etc and all kinds of sport we do on earth and God comes watches and he gets happy 😊.

They sing all kinds of music and perform live shows.
He blesses his children. They call him Father, Yaweh, Ahava( Love) So many instruments that are not here on earth is in Heaven, Arch Angel Gabriel is the best Musician amongst the Arch Angels. He introduced some of musical instruments to Man Kind like the piano 🎹

That's my kinda heaven!

Don't forget about the gold! Gold streets, gold walls, thrones of pure white gold and the gold chains, gold rings and bracelets we will be wearing as we look down into Hellfire and flex on our family and friends being tortured for eternity!!

This shall be our reward forever and ever.

okoroemeka:
from the scriptures heaven is described as a place that has houses built with diamonds and previous stones,with roads paved with gold,wine and assorted food falling down at your command , singing of praise to God ,beating drums and blowing trumpets till eternity,,from this description heaven is just a gilded prison yard that the inmates will choose suicide or to die in hell after a couple of years singing and beating drums,the worst punishment is for the human soul to live forever

They only have their Hour Of Praise which they only observe on Sundays. All these songs and all you are talking about happens same way we go to churches on Sundays. After their Hour Of Praise they go back to their territories and live their normal lives until the following Sunday. So it's better you don't say what you don't know.

geoworldedu:
To say the truth to God Almighty, there are no scientists in heaven who can make CCTV. But there are security officers in heaven to watch each person they are called angels. There are billions of them. They follow each individual to see if you stopped praising God at any time. If they find out you stopped praising God, they will take you to the mansion of God and he will do whatever he wants to do with you, including rape, if you are a pretty lady. If I lie about God Almighty, let me not finish typing this thing before I die. Amen in Jesus name

Where do you get this trash from. You don't need to die cos you are a clown. Where did you see where Angels rape each other, of which book did you get it from bimbo. Angels that don't have mammary glands and don't have both Male and Female sexual organs is what you are saying they rape. Na God go punish you as you talk. Mugun.

Aaronsrod:
That's my kinda heaven!

Don't forget about the gold! Gold streets, gold walls, thrones of pure white gold and the gold chains, gold rings and bracelets we will be wearing as we look down into Hellfire and flex on our family and friends being tortured for eternity!!

This shall be our reward forever and ever.

Hell is where Demons exist. Hell isn't meant for Humans, Likewise Heaven isn't meant for Humans. There's never a place I said Humans go to hell. Anyone telling you Humans go to Hell doesn't know the mind of God. Do Judges on earth sentence people to get burnt till they die? If an earthly Judge can't do that is it God Almighty that we have his mind that he will do such to us? Devil his own Son he didn't send to Hell? Is it Humans he will send to Hell? As far as I know know Humans don't go to Hell.

OKOATA:
Where do you get this trash from. You don't need to die cos you are a clown. Where did you see where Angels rape each other, of which book did you get it from bimbo. Angels that don't have mammary glands and don't have both Male and Female sexual organs is what you are saying they rape. Na God go punish you as you talk. Mugun.

Angels raped young girls in the old testament and they gave birth to giants called nephilims. The angels were cast down to earth. They are called demons right now. They go to heaven to dwell with God at any time. God used them to rape disobedient people in heaven. If you fail to clap and sing to God continuously, the angels will rape you. Even if you are a male, they will commit sodomy with you. I am bringing you current facts from heaven. Holy heaven and God bear me witness that I am saying the actual truth.

camri:
Are there cars in heaven

No. There are no cars in heaven. The religious scientists who made it to heaven are only 29 and they are all into theoretical sciences while they were on earth. They have tried several times to invent cars in heaven, but they failed woefully. At a point, God was moved to tears that the scientists could not invent any useful thing to bring development to heaven. So God decided to be admitting earthly inventors to heaven but Michael and Gabriel and the Holy Spirit challenged him. They said that he does not change, so why does he want to now change his standard by allowing satan people into heaven. God wept bitterly and regretted that he made only the sheep make heaven in the first place when wise satan made GOATS (Greatest Of All Time Scientists) make hell.

Start from LOCATION..
Where exactly is the Location of Heaven.??
What are the EXACT COORDINATES.??

Ezeama400:
It's written


, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, Neither have entered into the heart of man, The things which God hath prepared for them that love him.

Then,, we shouldn't be bothered thinking about it naa,, right.??
Since nobody had ever fathomed what it looks like.

Omooba77:
What does Heaven Look like?

Forget what religions teach on this subject, they know not what they say. Accurate information on the subject has been provided us through the phenomenon of Mediumship.

A good book to start with is "Life in the World Unseen which can be downloaded here

https://new-birth.net/media/cms_page_media/220/Life_in_the_World_Unseen.pdf

Read the book and decide for yourself whether it doesn't make far more sense than what religions will have up believe.

OKOATA:
Hell is where Demons exist. Hell isn't meant for Humans, Likewise Heaven isn't meant for Humans. There's never a place I said Humans go to hell. Anyone telling you Humans go to Hell doesn't know the mind of God. Do Judges on earth sentence people to get burnt till they die? If an earthly Judge can't do that is it God Almighty that we have his mind that he will do such to us? Devil his own Son he didn't send to Hell? Is it Humans he will send to Hell? As far as I know know Humans go to Hell.

then how will God punish sinners