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OriOko88:
So who's to blame for the failure of Africa to copy their template? God or man? You re confused

Man is to be blamed not God because there is no God.. in the way Christians preach it. Man is the architect of everything whether good or bad.

It is just that men in Africa couldn't manipulate religion the same way the builders of America did to have the same result.

I believe in personal relationship with God not in a building where I will meet annoying hypocrites.

I don't even listen to any man of God or whatever they call themselves....

Goodlyhrt:
My parents tried to raise us in the way that most Christian homes would go.. In the way of the Lord! And all the associated activities of going to Church all Sundays, ignoring all other associations as they are perceived as being unequally yoked with unbelievers. Adhering to all doctrines of the church no questions.

I was raised in this type of environment. In short my parents were staunch members of the Deeper Life Christian Ministries (DLCM) and all my formative years where under the doctrines and teachings of the church.

My parents and the Church taught me to put all my hope in the Lord in all situations and never to complain much because God will make a way even at the dieing minutes.

So I grew up weary of my non church going environment. I wouldn't find myself being a social animal that I am working aggressively hard on becoming nowadays.

So I made church friends, and went to church gatherings, church schools right until my secondary school days.

But there is a catch.

I watched my family falter and we lost everything we had. My father went down with diabetes around 2008 and nobody to help. He lost his carpentry workshop and showroom.. almost lost his life to the disease.

The Church, my church DLCM couldn't offer us good help because they too were individually waiting on the Lord too. So they offered us help but meager.

But that was the only gathering we knew and are aquatinted with.

No Umunna membership, ordinary friends gathering or in another word Friends club. Even market association, my parents never belonged to any of those.

We solely waited on the Lord and around 2011, my dad's diabetes was somehow controlled. Thanks to my Uncle in the village who came to our rescue by using herbs and leaves to help my dad. But not without enough convincing and lobbying from my uncle because my parents saw the help as being fetish of some sort.

In fact at that time we were not in talking terms with the said uncle because of his native practices. But at the end of the day he came to our rescue through the herbs he gave to my dad.

What I am saying is that my parents lifestyle of being too churchy in the way the raised us has been net detrimental in my life as a grown man and to my siblings too.

Talking about me. I didn't finish my education due to my dad's health and the fact that there's no one that could help me who my dad is aquainted with. My social skills is zero until recently. I didn't know how to deal with anybody outside talking about church related stuff and academic stuff I was lost.

So I am on this situation all thanks to my parents way of life of being too judgemental of everything not church related.

In short right now I don't how to keep a healthy relationship - you know calling to check up on someone, buying gifts, attending birthdays and all those stuffs that make knowing people interesting. I am just trying to pick these stuffs up from the street now.


And it hasn't helped in any way.

I think it has brought untold hardship to our lives in the sense that we suffer alone with no one to help. Not uncle's, not friends because we hardly make friends. In those days I wondered why no one visits my parents at home while all our neighbors hosted visitors almost all day especially on Sundays. Unless we are hosting Bible study session.

The simple truth is that no one should exist alone in this plane Earth. We were never built to survive alone and my parents and the church were all wrong.

So I stopped going to church totally. I hated my life how it has turned out and wish I could've made my own decisions earlier in life.

Of a truth I started dodging church activities very early in my teen years but I met stiff rebuttal from my dad. You know the "if I don't see you in church blah blah blah no school fees for you blah blah blah".

Because I started noticing something was off.

They said God answered prayers but I couldn't get answers to mine. I could remember one time in the DLCM camp ground. I prayed earnestly to be healed of my deformity, seeing that others got theirs and I was moved and cried sore for God to heal me. Even made promises to God if he proves his faithfulness. But it seemed the blessings from pastor Kumuyi would never get to me.

I was depressed and got angered.

Starting from then, my prayer life took a dive. Interest in the things of the church tanked.

Also my dad's ill fortune and how we suffered to eat most times during that time, made me question God and doubtful in everything.

In conclusion. We are never going to survive alone as species. We all need US in our lives.

I have started opening up to non church related associations lately. I even joined another church howbeit a modern church if you know what I mean. But now, I joined the church with a purpose. Not because I like going there but because I needed the connections there.

In the Bible it says that we should worship God with understanding but most non-orthodox denominations don't understand a thing.

My message to everyone.

Go out there and be aquainted with your fellow humans. Don't listen to religion and its backwater ideologies because we can't survive alone.

Join a political party, know some force men and become friends. Go to events with the sole aim of meeting new people.

Attend seminars and be active in the society.

A little appraisal of the Yoruba people. In the way some of them practice the Abrahamaic religion. They don't go overboard like the Northerners because of Islam or as strict as the Easterners, my people, in the way they practice Christianity. I stayed in Lagos for upto six years and I was initially confused in the way they practiced the Abrahamaic religions but now I understand better and I am in love with their way in that aspect.

Lastly be wise in your association with people. I.e. avoid secret societies or cult groups because although they'd promise you protection but it's all a lie.

I want to add this.

I learnt this from a pastor.

He said that the reason why Africa is suffering and is in great poverty is because we don't have more partnership businesses.

People have really nice business ideas but no one to sponsor them because African people are not inclined to form partnership so they don't know how to handle it.

In Europe or "the West", many people live off their investment in numerous business partnerships. No matter how little the business they invest in it and get it working good and then get ROI. Even when they are not actively employed or run their own personal business. But they are getting ROI from the investment in other people's businesses.

I think this is true though.

Sorry for the long read.

You were raised in a deeper life family. It is the denomination that practices strict Christianity regardless of ethnicity. If you don't understand that by now, you still have a long way to go.

Don't join that strictness with Igbo people please. Daalụ (meaning thank you).

CorrectionFLuid:
You were raised in a deeper life family. It is the denomination that practices strict Christianity regardless of ethnicity. If you don't understand that by now, you still have a long way to go.

Don't join that strictness with Igbo people please. Daalụ (meaning thank you).

Did you read Purple Hibiscus by Chimamanda Adichie?

Goodlyhrt:
My parents tried to raise us in the way that most Christian homes would go.. In the way of the Lord! And all the associated activities of going to Church all Sundays, ignoring all other associations as they are perceived as being unequally yoked with unbelievers. Adhering to all doctrines of the church no questions.

I was raised in this type of environment. In short my parents were staunch members of the Deeper Life Christian Ministries (DLCM) and all my formative years where under the doctrines and teachings of the church.

My parents and the Church taught me to put all my hope in the Lord in all situations and never to complain much because God will make a way even at the dieing minutes.

So I grew up weary of my non church going environment. I wouldn't find myself being a social animal that I am working aggressively hard on becoming nowadays.

So I made church friends, and went to church gatherings, church schools right until my secondary school days.

But there is a catch.

I watched my family falter and we lost everything we had. My father went down with diabetes around 2008 and nobody to help. He lost his carpentry workshop and showroom.. almost lost his life to the disease.

The Church, my church DLCM couldn't offer us good help because they too were individually waiting on the Lord too. So they offered us help but meager.

But that was the only gathering we knew and are aquatinted with.

No Umunna membership, ordinary friends gathering or in another word Friends club. Even market association, my parents never belonged to any of those.

We solely waited on the Lord and around 2011, my dad's diabetes was somehow controlled. Thanks to my Uncle in the village who came to our rescue by using herbs and leaves to help my dad. But not without enough convincing and lobbying from my uncle because my parents saw the help as being fetish of some sort.

In fact at that time we were not in talking terms with the said uncle because of his native practices. But at the end of the day he came to our rescue through the herbs he gave to my dad.

What I am saying is that my parents lifestyle of being too churchy in the way the raised us has been net detrimental in my life as a grown man and to my siblings too.

Talking about me. I didn't finish my education due to my dad's health and the fact that there's no one that could help me who my dad is aquainted with. My social skills is zero until recently. I didn't know how to deal with anybody outside talking about church related stuff and academic stuff I was lost.

So I am on this situation all thanks to my parents way of life of being too judgemental of everything not church related.

In short right now I don't how to keep a healthy relationship - you know calling to check up on someone, buying gifts, attending birthdays and all those stuffs that make knowing people interesting. I am just trying to pick these stuffs up from the street now.


And it hasn't helped in any way.

I think it has brought untold hardship to our lives in the sense that we suffer alone with no one to help. Not uncle's, not friends because we hardly make friends. In those days I wondered why no one visits my parents at home while all our neighbors hosted visitors almost all day especially on Sundays. Unless we are hosting Bible study session.

The simple truth is that no one should exist alone in this plane Earth. We were never built to survive alone and my parents and the church were all wrong.

So I stopped going to church totally. I hated my life how it has turned out and wish I could've made my own decisions earlier in life.

Of a truth I started dodging church activities very early in my teen years but I met stiff rebuttal from my dad. You know the "if I don't see you in church blah blah blah no school fees for you blah blah blah".

Because I started noticing something was off.

They said God answered prayers but I couldn't get answers to mine. I could remember one time in the DLCM camp ground. I prayed earnestly to be healed of my deformity, seeing that others got theirs and I was moved and cried sore for God to heal me. Even made promises to God if he proves his faithfulness. But it seemed the blessings from pastor Kumuyi would never get to me.

I was depressed and got angered.

Starting from then, my prayer life took a dive. Interest in the things of the church tanked.

Also my dad's ill fortune and how we suffered to eat most times during that time, made me question God and doubtful in everything.

In conclusion. We are never going to survive alone as species. We all need US in our lives.

I have started opening up to non church related associations lately. I even joined another church howbeit a modern church if you know what I mean. But now, I joined the church with a purpose. Not because I like going there but because I needed the connections there.

In the Bible it says that we should worship God with understanding but most non-orthodox denominations don't understand a thing.

My message to everyone.

Go out there and be aquainted with your fellow humans. Don't listen to religion and its backwater ideologies because we can't survive alone.

Join a political party, know some force men and become friends. Go to events with the sole aim of meeting new people.

Attend seminars and be active in the society.

A little appraisal of the Yoruba people. In the way some of them practice the Abrahamaic religion. They don't go overboard like the Northerners because of Islam or as strict as the Easterners, my people, in the way they practice Christianity. I stayed in Lagos for upto six years and I was initially confused in the way they practiced the Abrahamaic religions but now I understand better and I am in love with their way in that aspect.

Lastly be wise in your association with people. I.e. avoid secret societies or cult groups because although they'd promise you protection but it's all a lie.

I want to add this.

I learnt this from a pastor.

He said that the reason why Africa is suffering and is in great poverty is because we don't have more partnership businesses.

People have really nice business ideas but no one to sponsor them because African people are not inclined to form partnership so they don't know how to handle it.

In Europe or "the West", many people live off their investment in numerous business partnerships. No matter how little the business they invest in it and get it working good and then get ROI. Even when they are not actively employed or run their own personal business. But they are getting ROI from the investment in other people's businesses.

I think this is true though.

Sorry for the long read.

You and your family were all Pharisees and Sadducees

You had the Law but had not faith, joy, or love nor long suffering which are the fruit of the spirit

What’s ’If I don’t see you in church, no school fees for you’?

A staunch example of a man and a family without the discretion and counsel of the Holy Ghost

Such are playing field for the Devil and his agents, those who are not wise as serpents and gentle as doves

Know the word of God that you can speak it off hand, prophesy accurately, have faith that can move mountains, heal the sick and even make an amputees legs to grow, call down fire from heaven if you like

If you have not LOVE which is GOD, you are nothing to celestials

If your motive to know the word of God and understand it so you can puff up your chest to the rest of creation and call them unholy because the Lord drew you to Himself for His purpose

You are a son of pride destined for Hell

I was raise in a churchy home and yes in DCLM and I’m always proud and happy about having that opportunity

My parents brought me up in a strict christian way of life that, every opportunity that came, I scrutinized it to see if it was Godly or not... I threw away clean money making opportunities because I felt it had one form of deciet or the other...

I refused to gamble for a long time, I even refused to do MMM, I once picked 2m inside my boss vehicle after we had being robbed, boss tot, robbers took it but I found n returned it...

I gave some guys work they made almost 100m each and I refused to take money from them, when I needed the money, they did not give me... The first service I rendered, though I felt bad cos I wasn't a house agent, I made 4m... Now my eyes are wide Open... Deal no de...

I wish I knew and took all those opportunities earlier in life, I would be swimming in nothing less than 2b... But here I am struggling with less than 5m in aza... Now I gamble, flirth drink and do crazy stuffs ..

Wish I knew earlier...

Goodlyhrt:
Whether you like it or not. God is man and Man is the God you wish is in the skies.

All your prayers and aspirations are and will be facilitated by man and not any spirit.

Learning how to influence man has been the ultimate power. Thats why you have leaders of men everywhere and with almost the same objective to influence men. Even the God in your head is still fighting influence on MAN. Don't be deceived.

Lately I make lots and lots of friends and I hope you should too.

Cheers!!

At the emboldened. This is what many still struggle to understand. They feel spirit controls everything without involvement of men. They say God is spirit and I have no issue with that. But as humans, we should know that we are made up of hundreds, if not thousands of people. We need people to progress in life.

otipoju:
"God is man " . "Man is God " ." God is in your head"

This one carry "ment" for head. You will be alright las las.

He makes sense more than you do. All gods are heard from men. We have evidences that men exists, but we only get to know that God exists from hearsays from men.

Goodlyhrt:
Did you read Purple Hibiscus by Chimamanda Adichie?

I'm supposed to portray an entire ethnic group, which I'm a part of, and in which region I actually live in, based on a fiction where the main character's father is a religious extremist just like yours, as religiously strict?

In your entire write up, you didn't even call out deeper life because you don't even have the balls to. You criticized your parents, your upbringing, but that religious group notorious for being excluding, and pretending to be righteous, you didn't say a word of criticism against them.

Seems you still have a long way to go in understanding and human character. You started late, but better late than never. Welcome to the real world. Learn fast.

A lot of you religious people are outrightly retarded. My pastor said, g.o said, my prophet said, our doctrine says..... Hippie bullshit from you lots. Then you come up with your sad tale of woes. I was born and raised in the church as well and it helped shape my moral standards better. Anything else they cap on isn't my business. You chose to tow the line a man like you decides is the yardstick when the Bible is there as a guidebook. Then you start screaming bloody murder when things don't go your way because of the foolish choices you made. I bet you wouldn't still have gotten this self realization if you ain't experiencing any hardship. You people should read the Bible if you choose to serve God and quit getting subjected to a man's doctrine. And if you don't want to serve God, work hard and live fine. It's all quite simple.

Goodlyhrt:
My parents tried to raise us in the way that most Christian homes would go.. In the way of the Lord! And all the associated activities of going to Church all Sundays, ignoring all other associations as they are perceived as being unequally yoked with unbelievers. Adhering to all doctrines of the church no questions.

I was raised in this type of environment. In short my parents were staunch members of the Deeper Life Christian Ministries (DLCM) and all my formative years where under the doctrines and teachings of the church.

My parents and the Church taught me to put all my hope in the Lord in all situations and never to complain much because God will make a way even at the dieing minutes.

So I grew up weary of my non church going environment. I wouldn't find myself being a social animal that I am working aggressively hard on becoming nowadays.

So I made church friends, and went to church gatherings, church schools right until my secondary school days.

But there is a catch.

I watched my family falter and we lost everything we had. My father went down with diabetes around 2008 and nobody to help. He lost his carpentry workshop and showroom.. almost lost his life to the disease.

The Church, my church DLCM couldn't offer us good help because they too were individually waiting on the Lord too. So they offered us help but meager.

But that was the only gathering we knew and are aquatinted with.

No Umunna membership, ordinary friends gathering or in another word Friends club. Even market association, my parents never belonged to any of those.

We solely waited on the Lord and around 2011, my dad's diabetes was somehow controlled. Thanks to my Uncle in the village who came to our rescue by using herbs and leaves to help my dad. But not without enough convincing and lobbying from my uncle because my parents saw the help as being fetish of some sort.

In fact at that time we were not in talking terms with the said uncle because of his native practices. But at the end of the day he came to our rescue through the herbs he gave to my dad.

What I am saying is that my parents lifestyle of being too churchy in the way the raised us has been net detrimental in my life as a grown man and to my siblings too.

Talking about me. I didn't finish my education due to my dad's health and the fact that there's no one that could help me who my dad is aquainted with. My social skills is zero until recently. I didn't know how to deal with anybody outside talking about church related stuff and academic stuff I was lost.

So I am on this situation all thanks to my parents way of life of being too judgemental of everything not church related.

In short right now I don't how to keep a healthy relationship - you know calling to check up on someone, buying gifts, attending birthdays and all those stuffs that make knowing people interesting. I am just trying to pick these stuffs up from the street now.


And it hasn't helped in any way.

I think it has brought untold hardship to our lives in the sense that we suffer alone with no one to help. Not uncle's, not friends because we hardly make friends. In those days I wondered why no one visits my parents at home while all our neighbors hosted visitors almost all day especially on Sundays. Unless we are hosting Bible study session.

The simple truth is that no one should exist alone in this plane Earth. We were never built to survive alone and my parents and the church were all wrong.

So I stopped going to church totally. I hated my life how it has turned out and wish I could've made my own decisions earlier in life.

Of a truth I started dodging church activities very early in my teen years but I met stiff rebuttal from my dad. You know the "if I don't see you in church blah blah blah no school fees for you blah blah blah".

Because I started noticing something was off.

They said God answered prayers but I couldn't get answers to mine. I could remember one time in the DLCM camp ground. I prayed earnestly to be healed of my deformity, seeing that others got theirs and I was moved and cried sore for God to heal me. Even made promises to God if he proves his faithfulness. But it seemed the blessings from pastor Kumuyi would never get to me.

I was depressed and got angered.

Starting from then, my prayer life took a dive. Interest in the things of the church tanked.

Also my dad's ill fortune and how we suffered to eat most times during that time, made me question God and doubtful in everything.

In conclusion. We are never going to survive alone as species. We all need US in our lives.

I have started opening up to non church related associations lately. I even joined another church howbeit a modern church if you know what I mean. But now, I joined the church with a purpose. Not because I like going there but because I needed the connections there.

In the Bible it says that we should worship God with understanding but most non-orthodox denominations don't understand a thing.

My message to everyone.

Go out there and be aquainted with your fellow humans. Don't listen to religion and its backwater ideologies because we can't survive alone.

Join a political party, know some force men and become friends. Go to events with the sole aim of meeting new people.

Attend seminars and be active in the society.

A little appraisal of the Yoruba people. In the way some of them practice the Abrahamaic religion. They don't go overboard like the Northerners because of Islam or as strict as the Easterners, my people, in the way they practice Christianity. I stayed in Lagos for upto six years and I was initially confused in the way they practiced the Abrahamaic religions but now I understand better and I am in love with their way in that aspect.

Lastly be wise in your association with people. I.e. avoid secret societies or cult groups because although they'd promise you protection but it's all a lie.

I want to add this.

I learnt this from a pastor.

He said that the reason why Africa is suffering and is in great poverty is because we don't have more partnership businesses.

People have really nice business ideas but no one to sponsor them because African people are not inclined to form partnership so they don't know how to handle it.

In Europe or "the West", many people live off their investment in numerous business partnerships. No matter how little the business they invest in it and get it working good and then get ROI. Even when they are not actively employed or run their own personal business. But they are getting ROI from the investment in other people's businesses.

I think this is true though.

Sorry for the long read.

Anything investment in Nigeria through any acclaimed partnership or any other thing will end as a scam. Don't believe in any partnership with any Nigerian, I won't mention black since I've never been to any other black dominated country. Even the so called religious leader are out there to better their life not in the interest of those they claim to guide for heavenly blessings. Deeper life is a cultist organisation. I won't say more than this.
Nigeria is a cursed country, where all kinds of evil are perpetrated without any conscience or severe punishment so if you have any business idea, develop it by yourself else Nigerians will eventually reap you off.

Goodlyhrt:
My parents tried to raise us in the way that most Christian homes would go.. In the way of the Lord! And all the associated activities of going to Church all Sundays, ignoring all other associations as they are perceived as being unequally yoked with unbelievers. Adhering to all doctrines of the church no questions.

I was raised in this type of environment. In short my parents were staunch members of the Deeper Life Christian Ministries (DLCM) and all my formative years where under the doctrines and teachings of the church.

My parents and the Church taught me to put all my hope in the Lord in all situations and never to complain much because God will make a way even at the dieing minutes.

So I grew up weary of my non church going environment. I wouldn't find myself being a social animal that I am working aggressively hard on becoming nowadays.

So I made church friends, and went to church gatherings, church schools right until my secondary school days.

But there is a catch.

I watched my family falter and we lost everything we had. My father went down with diabetes around 2008 and nobody to help. He lost his carpentry workshop and showroom.. almost lost his life to the disease.

The Church, my church DLCM couldn't offer us good help because they too were individually waiting on the Lord too. So they offered us help but meager.

But that was the only gathering we knew and are aquatinted with.

No Umunna membership, ordinary friends gathering or in another word Friends club. Even market association, my parents never belonged to any of those.

We solely waited on the Lord and around 2011, my dad's diabetes was somehow controlled. Thanks to my Uncle in the village who came to our rescue by using herbs and leaves to help my dad. But not without enough convincing and lobbying from my uncle because my parents saw the help as being fetish of some sort.

In fact at that time we were not in talking terms with the said uncle because of his native practices. But at the end of the day he came to our rescue through the herbs he gave to my dad.

What I am saying is that my parents lifestyle of being too churchy in the way the raised us has been net detrimental in my life as a grown man and to my siblings too.

Talking about me. I didn't finish my education due to my dad's health and the fact that there's no one that could help me who my dad is aquainted with. My social skills is zero until recently. I didn't know how to deal with anybody outside talking about church related stuff and academic stuff I was lost.

So I am on this situation all thanks to my parents way of life of being too judgemental of everything not church related.

In short right now I don't how to keep a healthy relationship - you know calling to check up on someone, buying gifts, attending birthdays and all those stuffs that make knowing people interesting. I am just trying to pick these stuffs up from the street now.


And it hasn't helped in any way.

I think it has brought untold hardship to our lives in the sense that we suffer alone with no one to help. Not uncle's, not friends because we hardly make friends. In those days I wondered why no one visits my parents at home while all our neighbors hosted visitors almost all day especially on Sundays. Unless we are hosting Bible study session.

The simple truth is that no one should exist alone in this plane Earth. We were never built to survive alone and my parents and the church were all wrong.

So I stopped going to church totally. I hated my life how it has turned out and wish I could've made my own decisions earlier in life.

Of a truth I started dodging church activities very early in my teen years but I met stiff rebuttal from my dad. You know the "if I don't see you in church blah blah blah no school fees for you blah blah blah".

Because I started noticing something was off.

They said God answered prayers but I couldn't get answers to mine. I could remember one time in the DLCM camp ground. I prayed earnestly to be healed of my deformity, seeing that others got theirs and I was moved and cried sore for God to heal me. Even made promises to God if he proves his faithfulness. But it seemed the blessings from pastor Kumuyi would never get to me.

I was depressed and got angered.

Starting from then, my prayer life took a dive. Interest in the things of the church tanked.

Also my dad's ill fortune and how we suffered to eat most times during that time, made me question God and doubtful in everything.

In conclusion. We are never going to survive alone as species. We all need US in our lives.

I have started opening up to non church related associations lately. I even joined another church howbeit a modern church if you know what I mean. But now, I joined the church with a purpose. Not because I like going there but because I needed the connections there.

In the Bible it says that we should worship God with understanding but most non-orthodox denominations don't understand a thing.

My message to everyone.

Go out there and be aquainted with your fellow humans. Don't listen to religion and its backwater ideologies because we can't survive alone.

Join a political party, know some force men and become friends. Go to events with the sole aim of meeting new people.

Attend seminars and be active in the society.

A little appraisal of the Yoruba people. In the way some of them practice the Abrahamaic religion. They don't go overboard like the Northerners because of Islam or as strict as the Easterners, my people, in the way they practice Christianity. I stayed in Lagos for upto six years and I was initially confused in the way they practiced the Abrahamaic religions but now I understand better and I am in love with their way in that aspect.

Lastly be wise in your association with people. I.e. avoid secret societies or cult groups because although they'd promise you protection but it's all a lie.

I want to add this.

I learnt this from a pastor.

He said that the reason why Africa is suffering and is in great poverty is because we don't have more partnership businesses.

People have really nice business ideas but no one to sponsor them because African people are not inclined to form partnership so they don't know how to handle it.

In Europe or "the West", many people live off their investment in numerous business partnerships. No matter how little the business they invest in it and get it working good and then get ROI. Even when they are not actively employed or run their own personal business. But they are getting ROI from the investment in other people's businesses.

I think this is true though.

Sorry for the long read.

So have you completed your studies? Still interested in studying?

toprealman:
So have you completed your studies? Still interested in studying?

I have not completed my studies. I have an obligation to Africa to see her at the very top. I can't teach wise ways to African children if I don't finish my studies.

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Heb 1:1 KJV God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Heb 1:2 KJV Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

Separate extrabiblical talk from the Bible. Angels are not Gen Z teenagers taking selfies, they've existed for thousands or millions of years. Why do you assume they'll be busied with snapping pictures or doing Instagram reels?

The same way the angels were busy killing people, frying bread and eating suya in the Bible.

CorrectionFLuid:
I'm supposed to portray an entire ethnic group, which I'm a part of, and in which region I actually live in, based on a fiction where the main character's father is a religious extremist just like yours, as religiously strict?

In your entire write up, you didn't even call out deeper life because you don't even have the balls to. You criticized your parents, your upbringing, but that religious group notorious for being excluding, and pretending to be righteous, you didn't say a word of criticism against them.

Seems you still have a long way to go in understanding and human character. You started late, but better late than never. Welcome to the real world. Learn fast.

Thank you for pointing out to me on the need to learn more and fast. I for one I have started this race of unraveling the secrets concerning the human psyche. Rough the journey but surely. Maybe I have used hasty generalizations and I am yet to realize because of my background - barely literate about other Christian denominations in the East so I beg for pardon.

I will get there someday though.

Thanks again.

Maysdevices:
You and your family were all Pharisees and Sadducees

You had the Law but had not faith, joy, or love nor long suffering which are the fruit of the spirit

What’s ’If I don’t see you in church, no school fees for you’?

A staunch example of a man and a family without the discretion and counsel of the Holy Ghost

Such are playing field for the Devil and his agents, those who are not wise as serpents and gentle as doves

Know the word of God that you can speak it off hand, prophesy accurately, have faith that can move mountains, heal the sick and even make an amputees legs to grow, call down fire from heaven if you like

If you have not LOVE which is GOD, you are nothing to celestials

If your motive to know the word of God and understand it so you can puff up your chest to the rest of creation and call them unholy because the Lord drew you to Himself for His purpose

You are a son of pride destined for Hell

See you in hell then because you just judged a righteous man.

God or Jesus Christ himself never calls anyone a Christian. It was a name given by the people of Antioch to the followers of Christ.

I used to tell people that majority of us that are calling ourselves Christians are not actually Christians. If we know the deep meaning of Christian; we won't be deceive by these so called men of God.

The first time I detest some of pastor Kumuyi's teaching was when he banned his church members from watching TV some years ago, not mingling with non-christians; even Christ himself dines with the sinners. He carried everyone along during his sojourn on earth. He cared for the poor more than even the rich. But what do we have in churches today? Giving posts to the wealthy and relegating the poor.

The same TV he banned his members from watching some years ago is it not the same TVs they streamed his live program to watch now? Was it not recently he invited non-christians to give lecture on one of his church seminars?
We Christians failed to ask our pastors some questions when they Introduced some doctrines to us.

On financial aspect; don't expect the church to take care of your financial burden 100%. The only group that can do that for you is your immediate family. The church will just help to a certain limit and they stop funding. The church can never go broke because of you no matter what because you are not the GO or the GS; now is that what Christ teaches us?

When you hear any doctrine from any pastor, you have to consult the Bible for a counter balance. You don't just swallow every thing that comes out of a pastor's mouth because he is not God.

LordReed:
The same way the angels were busy killing people, frying bread and eating suya in the Bible.

And they did not take pictures, did they?

Belonging to associations won't save U when U need help. It's about making the right Relationship with people and helping while U are up else U will be alone when U fall

LordReed:
I love this. We've had more than a century of photographic and motion picture technology, yet we have never captured an angel or demon via photograph or video. Millions of hours of church services yet no sign of angel or demon.

I firmly agree that our endeavours succeed with the help of our fellows and no spirits are involved.

Cheers to you too.

The Holy Spirit is the greatest helper. He can direct you to destiny helpers or you to them.
One of the biggest challenges is that God works in His own time and not ours. He chooses to have mercy on whomever He wants. That's why He is God.
Don't be angry with your parents or with God. Your life will certainly be different from your parents'.
Don't be Angry, Ashamed or Afraid. Ask God to show you your path in life.
God is not in the skies, He lives in us.

I understand your plights, but honestly speaking, you have achieved a lot, through your write up, I discovered that you did not waste your youthful period.

It has happened to me as well, but I picked myself up during my university period, while my colleagues in the class were struggling for CGPA alone, I was building my social life. When trouble of life , especially after marriage, the only person that came to my rescue was a Muslim friend, I met in the university. I'm fully back on my feet due to his help and assistance, most of my Christian brothers avoided me during that period. If you fail to build a social life, you might not get help so soon in time of trouble.

Goodlyhrt:
I have not completed my studies. I have an obligation to Africa to see her at the very top. I can't teach wise ways to African children if I don't finish my studies.

Do you still have a valid admission ?

toprealman:
Do you still have a valid admission ?

No sir.

Stopped at senior WAEC level

Image123:
And they did not take pictures, did they?

There were no pictures or video back then, there are now.

mirrael68:
The Holy Spirit is the greatest helper. He can direct you to destiny helpers or you to them.
One of the biggest challenges is that God works in His own time and not ours. He chooses to have mercy on whomever He wants. That's why He is God.
Don't be angry with your parents or with God. Your life will certainly be different from your parents'.
Don't be Angry, Ashamed or Afraid. Ask God to show you your path in life.
God is not in the skies, He lives in us.

No thank you.

LordReed:
There were no pictures or video back then, there are now.

And who makes the conditions that they must take photos and videos? Atheists?

Image123:
And who makes the conditions that they must take photos and videos? Atheists?

Not who, what. Physics.

LordReed:
Not who, what. Physics.

Physics should go and sleep then, we are talking religion not physics. Physics knows little or nothing, neither is it concerned about what we're talking about.

Image123:
Physics should go and sleep then, we are talking religion not physics. Physics knows little or nothing, neither is it concerned about what we're talking about.

LMAO! Physics doesn't sleep or slumber and it is very much involved in the discussion. You cannot fry bread, eat suya or cause fire to erupt without physics or it being physically detectable ie photograph or video. Not to talk of the light that must enter your eyes to see an angel with.

LordReed:
LMAO! Physics doesn't sleep or slumber and it is very much involved in the discussion. You cannot fry bread, eat suya or cause fire to erupt without physics or it being physically detectable ie photograph or video. Not to talk of the light that must enter your eyes to see an angel with.

Not forgetting that physics is asking for photos and reels here, in this case it needs to sleep deeply. Spirits don't take photos.