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FayaBall:
But even you know it is no lie for they did die in "the day" for a day to God is a 1000 years and Adam died being 930 years, so therefore, he died in the day, exactly as God said.

But you are a Devil here to deceive, steal and kill and destroy.

Liartum the Devil!

You are confused
Adam didn’t die that day he lived long
He even gave birth and his children
Where still blessed and punished by God
All of that wasn’t one day. You will surely “Die”
Before eating that fruit God has planned for Adam to live forever
That is Adam would eventually eat both the fruit of knowledge of good and evil and also the tree of immortality. Thus making Adam immortal.
But Adam eating of the didn’t allow him fulfill the purpose cause he won’t be allowed to stay in the garden or eat the other fruit that would make him immortal . Thus Adam would “surely die”
Adam wasn’t meant to surely die . But now we all are all meant to surely die

Treborblue:
Finally someone that is catching on. This is why I’m here for people with such questions.
The answer is deep but it is simple.
The solution to our problems here on earth lies in our hands . But each of us are tooo corrupt and in sync with the rules the ones that lead us and blindfolds us use to control us.
1. You tell your child not to put hand in fire that it’ll hurt
You’ll always have to keep reminding that child
2. Your child put his hand in fire and gets hurt
Your child will never put his hand in fire ever again.
There are different ways to teach your children but God is God cause he decides which he wants to use .

The truth is earth is our heaven
But we “man” are the ones being cruel to our fellow “man”
No one has to go to bed hungry but even if God gave everyone food to eat
There are those that will steal from some and sell it.
There are those that will kidnap people just to collect their daily food from God. I’ll continue in a bit

Thanks for your question

Have you solved the problems of this world. in your hands?

if not, then you are talking shit.

And all you have done is to still list the same problems you say people can solve, yet no one man has solved it

Treborblue:
Me your kid is 7 and he tells you dad I want to drive your car. Will you give him the key ??
It’s so hard to teach a 7 year old how to drive a car
But it’s so easy to teach a 19year old
Do you understand . In the right time they would have been given the fruit . But it wasn’t yet time they weren’t ready for it yet

Next you'd be telling me I should not teach my 2 year old how to count 1 2 3, and should wait till I need to teach it calculus.

So, I should not first start by teaching my child the importance of a child safety seat, or even to cross the road safely before I teach it to drive a car? Or is it that you don't think child safety seat and crossing the road safely has anything to do with its eventual learning to drive?

As for me, I taught my children 1 2 3 while they were in my womb, because I want them to have a headstart and be fruitful a million fold and multiply in the billions and replenish the earth and itself and subdue whatever it wants. And the Gods be praised.

For your information, the knowledge of good and evil is not car driving, but the equivalent of brush your teeth in the morning and after eating, and eat your food at the right time, and clean your bum after you poo, and say please and thank you. Basically, I consider knowledge of good and evil to be the very basics of being human or they'd be orangutans.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is your inability to understand that God is just Gooder than Good and that is why He stoped dealing directly with man since man took in sin, and therefore appointed His Son, The same LORD to deal with with the us.

Which is why the bible clearly stated that He cannot stand sin which is what you Holiness means.

So, how can He Who cannot let sin near Him for His Holiness destroys all sin, which is why you see no Human came near Him in the mountain of Sinai, except consecrated Moses, and the even at that Moses only one saw His Back.

So how canI He have evil which is sin in Him?

You are talking of a human being for it is them who have both good and evil in them.

Another point for God's complete goodness is that He does not do evil Himself but hs officers who execute such judgments, eg the angel He sent to kill Balaam, the angel which wiped out Egypts first born, the angel who wiped out the isrealites when they angered Him, the angels who wiped out sodom and Gomorrah etc.

God possesses both qualities that what keeps the balance.
God demands righteousness from us
Clean heart
He is God and that’s what he desires from us .
He is both the holiest and also the evilest
Now being evil isn’t a sin
A sin is going against Gods command

Now God can’t commit a sin
Cause it’s his own command
But we and everything else created can.
You understand
He can’t sin
Because for it to be a sin it has to offend him

Do you understand

Treborblue:
You are confused
Adam didn’t die that day he lived long
He even gave birth and his children.

Go away! You only know this because you are not still waiting for some future right time to be allowed to eat the fruits of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but like me, you are a thief who decided the right time for yourself and stole it and ate it and can now clearly see because your eyes are open. You this knowledgeable wise person!

budaatum:
Next you'd be telling me I should not teach my 2 year old how to count 1 2 3, and should wait till I need to teach it calculus.

So, I should not first start by teaching my child the importance of a child safety seat, or even to cross the road safely before I teach it to drive a car? Or is it that you don't think child safety seat and crossing the road safely has anything to do with its eventual learning to drive?

As for me, I taught my children 1 2 3 while they were in my womb, because I want them to have a headstart and be fruitful a million fold and multiply in the billions and replenish the earth and itself and subdue whatever it wants. And the Gods be praised.

For your information, the knowledge of good and evil is not car driving, but the equivalent of brush your teeth in the morning and after eating, and eat your food at the right time, and clean your bum after you poo, and say please and thank you. Basically, I consider knowledge of good and evil to be the very basics of being human or they'd be orangutans.

lol you’re right to an extent. But at that time it was just them in the garden
They were naked even.
Even if you did allllll of this are you going to tell me you won’t test your children in one way ??. The tree was a test, obedience was the answer .
If you were to give your child dominance over your business
Won’t you want to be sure you’re giving a child that follows instructions?

Dtruthspeaker:
Have you solved the problems of this world. in your hands?

if not, then you are talking shit.

And all you have done is to still list the same problems you say people can be solve, yet no one man has solved it

Please in all you do don’t quote me wrongly.
“In our hands” not “in my hands”
I cannot solve the world problem alone
The world has to agree and solve the problem together
Or atleast it can start with some people . If we can all agree . 80% of our issues will end

budaatum:
Go away! You only know this because you are not still waiting for some future right time to be allowed to eat the fruits of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but like me, you are a thief who decided the right time for yourself and stole it and ate it and can now clearly see because your eyes are open. You this knowledgeable wise person!

It’s funny
How’d you know I would understand this and even smile
Are you sure you’re Nigerian or even of this world lol

There’s hope for us .

Treborblue:
You are confused
Adam didn’t die that day he lived long
He even gave birth and his children
Where still blessed and punished by God
All of that wasn’t one day. You will surely “Die”
Before eating that fruit God has planned for Adam to live forever
That is Adam would eventually eat both the fruit of knowledge of good and evil and also the tree of immortality. Thus making Adam immortal.
But Adam eating of the didn’t allow him fulfill the purpose cause he won’t be allowed to stay in the garden or eat the other fruit that would make him immortal . Thus Adam would “surely die”
Adam wasn’t meant to surely die . But now we all are all meant to surely die

Are you that stupid? This your rambling does not address anything I said. Otio

budaatum:
Yeah. Next you'd be telling me 1 kobo is a million naira in your God's eyes!

You'd also likely tell me that dead Adam and dead Eve conceived Cain and Abel and Seth and numerous sons and daughter and the entire human race too, because, in your own God's eyes dead people reproduce.

You have nothing to say because this your statement no enter at all ooo

Loseratum!

Treborblue:
It’s funny
How’d you know I would understand this and even smile
Are you sure you’re Nigerian or even of this world lol

There’s hope for us .

See devil thieves dey console and hold each other

Treborblue:
It’s funny
How’d you know I would understand this and even smile
Are you sure you’re Nigerian or even of this world lol

There’s hope for us .

How will I not know?

Do you think you can light your lamp and hide it under a jar or put it under a bed, and those with eyes will not see your light?

By your fruit are you recognised.

budaatum:
Go away! You only know this because you are not still waiting for some future right time to be allowed to eat the fruits of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but like me, you are a thief who decided the right time for yourself and stole it and ate it and can now clearly see because your eyes are open. You this knowledgeable wise person!

See liar thief dey tell im fellow foolish thief say im make sense.

Well, that is the way of Liartum!

Treborblue:
God possesses both qualities that what keeps the balance.
God demands righteousness from us
Clean heart
He is God and that’s what he desires from us .
He is both the holiest and also the evilest
Now being evil isn’t a sin
A sin is going against Gods command

Now God can’t commit a sin
Cause it’s his own command
But we and everything else created can.
You understand
He can’t sin
Because for it to be a sin it has to offend him

Do you understand

Do you not see the madness you speak? Holiness and evilness are opposited, as you men have proven which is why a murderer as a bandit can still give money to a poor.

But you can never find one evil which God has done

And see how you are tmixing it up talking about God's expectation on man whereas, you should be concentrating on the character and acts of God.

Man, you are just being very foolish stupidly blaspheming God from your stupidity.

You are not even ashamed to say "evil is not sin". God has clearly Cursed you with madness and your destruction is guaranteed

Treborblue:
You are confused
Adam didn’t die that day he lived long
He even gave birth and his children..

Whose long? and whise day?

Did you not hear "a day is = 1000.years" What was Adam's age when he died? was it more than a day?

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you not see the madness you speak? Holiness and evilness are opposited, as you men have proven which is why a murderer as a bandit can still give money to a poor.

But you can never find one evil which God has done

And see how you are tmixing it up talking about God's expectation on man whereas, you should be concentrating on the character and acts of God.

Man, you are just being very foolish stupidly blaspheming God from your stupidity.

You are not even ashamed to say "evil is not sin". God has clearly Cursed you with madness and your destruction is guaranteed

The same God that said
“ I am the beginning and the end”
Wait isn’t that also contrary
lol you need to awaken to understand. My responses aren’t for you
There are for people who will understand. God possesses both Qualities in max that why he is God

If the devil was more evil than God

Then the devil would be the God of Evil , but that’s impossible . If we talk about characters Omo this post Go full there are a lot of things God has done that’s deemed harsh
But who am I to Judge God. We were all made for his pleasure .

The bible God is the actual villain. Created the 3D prison and trapped souls with emotions, sexual urge, hunger and the physical body.

Treborblue:
lol you’re right to an extent. But at that time it was just them in the garden.

But there were some beings somewhere who were not made from mud for whom those in the garden were slaving in the Garden for.

Treborblue:
They were naked even.

Naked and ignorant, please, to be precise.

Treborblue:
Even if you did allllll of this are you going to tell me you won’t test your children in one way ??

Of course I will test them. But I will of course feed them knowledge too, won't I. Or do you expect me to test my children on ABC before I teach them ABC? And whom should I punish if they don't know it? Should I beat them?

Treborblue:
The tree was a test, obedience was the answer.

Obedience is for slaves. My own God will want to test me on fruitfulness, and the ability to multiply and rule over and subdue, because that is the ABC he taught me when he created me in his image, and not some stupid ignorant test of obedience, since I'm not a naked slave.

Treborblue:
If you were to give your child dominance over your business
Won’t you want to be sure you’re giving a child that follows instructions?

The definition of Dominance is power and influence.

If I am still instructing my child I most definitely must not yet have given it power and influence.

So, I will have instructed my child from inside my womb before giving it power and influence over my business, after which I will retire and let my child dominate my business, because after I have given it power and influence it is no more subject to my instruction.

killsmith:
The bible God is the actual villain. Created the 3D prison and trapped souls with emotions, sexual urge, hunger and the physical body.

Says the producer of death, aka killsmith.

Wetin else you go talk before, Mr Killer.

Dtruthspeaker:
Whose long? and whise day?

Did you not hear "a day is = 1000.years" What was Adam's age when he died? was it more than a day?

Please show me where it’s written that a day is 1000years.
lol and even so
He lived 900+ years
That counts as long life
To Adam he lived 900+
He had days roll by he had morning and nights . He wife bore children the children grew . I don’t get your point really . Stop arguing blindly
Adam wasn’t meant to die at all
Eating the fruit made him removed from the garden
And the tree to eternal life was in that garden
So therefore without access to that tree he would die but not immediately.

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you not see the madness you speak? Holiness and evilness are opposited, as you men have proven which is why a murderer as a bandit can still give money to a poor.

But you can never find one evil which God has done

And see how you are tmixing it up talking about God's expectation on man whereas, you should be concentrating on the character and acts of God.

Man, you are just being very foolish stupidly blaspheming God from your stupidity.

You are not even ashamed to say "evil is not sin". God has clearly Cursed you with madness and your destruction is guaranteed

He is both mad and stupid at the same time and the horrible thing is he is openly and brazenly displaying both, oh boy. He is truly heavily cursed for even a stupid person knows when to hide his head but this one eh, ha it is a sight o!

budaatum:
But there were some beings somewhere who were not made from mud for whom those in the garden were slaving in the Garden for.



Naked and ignorant, please, to be precise.


Of course I will test them. But I will of course feed them knowledge too, won't I. Or do you expect me to test my children on ABC before I teach them ABC? And whom should I punish if they don't know it? Should I beat them?


Obedience is for slaves. My own God will want to test me on fruitfulness, and the ability to multiply and rule over and subdue, because that is the ABC he taught me when he created me in his image, and not some stupid ignorant test of obedience, since I'm not a naked slave.



The definition of Dominance is power and influence.

If I am still instructing my child I most definitely must not yet have given it power and influence.

So, I will have instructed my child from inside my womb before giving it power and influence over my business, after which I will retire and let my child dominate my business, because after I have given it power and influence it is no more subject to my instruction.

Obedience isn’t for slaves .
If you can’t obey
You can’t work with God

All men of God have had to obey. That’s how God operates
Well maybe we are slaves to God
But in it there’s honor cause that’s our purpose for creation
To be obedient to our master.

Will you make a wayward child that disrespects you “king”
Or will you make an obedient one that’s after your heart
“King”

Treborblue:
The same God that said
“ I am the beginning and the end”
Wait isn’t that also contrary
lol you need to awaken to understand. My responses aren’t for you
There are for people who will understand. God possesses both Qualities in max that why he is God

If the devil was more evil than God

Then the devil would be the God of Evil , but that’s impossible . If we talk about characters Omo this post Go full there are a lot of things God has done that’s deemed harsh
But who am I to Judge God. We were all made for his pleasure .

I am the beginning of what?
and the end of what?

How is this contrary?

Your madnss is,not letting you see that you are very foolishl else you would see that you have just shifted post as you speaking keep blaspheming God more, thereby proving "whom God is destroying, He first makes them Mad"

Treborblue:
But who am I to Judge God.

This is a mistake many make.

We are not judging God. What we are judging is the Bible that some people wrote, the same way Eve judged what Adam told her. God did after all not tell Eve that "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die". He told Adam, according to the text.

When the Lord said to Moses, “Come up to the Lord, you and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. You are to worship at a distance, but Moses alone is to approach the Lord; the others must not come near. And the people may not come up with him”.

buda, said, "What the fuq, Lord! Has Moses got two heads?! Is it not you who created buda also? I'm coming up too. And I'm coming near you!"

And so we all went all the way up the mountain, and the Lord gave buda the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father sent to teach all things and bring all things to remembrance.

buda is far too stubborn and curious to not want to hear direct from the horses mouth.

FayaBall:
He is both mad and stupid at the same time and the horrible thing is he is openly and brazenly displaying both, oh boy. He is truly heavily cursed for even a stupid person knows when to hide his head but this one eh, ha it is a sight o!

God's Words wiill always come to pass!

killsmith:
The bible God is the actual villain. Created the 3D prison and trapped souls with emotions, sexual urge, hunger and the physical body.

He also trapped us with emotions like
Love,kindness, happiness,pleasure

If you really believed you are trapped you won’t be here having this discussion you would have killed yourself to untrap your soul.
Don’t believe what you cannot practice .
All these emotions are emotions of God
We have to feel it and use them to become perfect beings
By not letting the negative ones rule us
By understanding how hunger feels and making sure no one has to sleep hungry
Thank you for sharing

budaatum:
This is a mistake many make.

We are not judging God. What we are judging is the Bible that some people wrote, the same way Eve judged what Adam told her. God did after all not tell Eve that "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die". He told Adam, according to the text.

When the Lord said to Moses, “Come up to the Lord, you and Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel. You are to worship at a distance, but Moses alone is to approach the Lord; the others must not come near. And the people may not come up with him”.

buda, said, "What the fuq, Lord! Has Moses got two heads?! Is it not you who created buda also? I'm coming up too. And I'm coming near you!"

And so we all went all the way up the mountain, and the Lord gave buda the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father sent to teach all things and bring all things to remembrance.

buda is far too stubborn and curious to not want to hear direct from the horses mouth.

When I say judge God
I mean
To call his actions
Right or wrong. His actions are his actions and his will

Treborblue:
Please show me where it’s written that a day is 1000years.
lol and even so
He lived 900+ years
That counts as long life
To Adam he lived 900+
He had days roll by he had morning and nights . He wife bore children the children grew . I don’t get your point really . Stop arguing blindly
Adam wasn’t meant to die at all
Eating the fruit made him removed from the garden
And the tree to eternal life was in that garden
So therefore without access to that tree he would die but not immediately.

Yet you said you are Christian yet you do not know Psalm 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8?

Even if he lived upto 999, he still did not live beyond "a day".

so stop thinking and talking rubbish.

Treborblue:
Please in all you do don’t quote me wrongly.
“In our hands” not “in my hands”
I cannot solve the world problem alone
The world has to agree and solve the problem together
Or atleast it can start with some people . If we can all agree . 80% of our issues will end

Your hands on is part of "our hands" so if you solved your own, others can follow you

Treborblue:
Obedience isn’t for slaves .
If you can’t obey
You can’t work with God.

That is your own understanding. It is not one I share.

God can not create me in His own Image to rule and subdue and dominate, and then tell me to obedient.

Treborblue:
All men of God have had to obey. That’s how God operates

I am not a "men of God". I am an atheist. One who knows there are no Gods.

Thankfully, however, there is a book. And I can read it,and the God I read about does not operate that way.

Treborblue:
Well maybe we are slaves to God.

Thankfully, I am not a slave. Those created in Gods Image are not slaves!

When God said,Let us create man in our Image, he was not talking to slaves.

Treborblue:
But in it there’s honor cause that’s our purpose for creation
To be obedient to our master.

This is a lie! God never gave me any such purpose! He gave that purpose to Adam, not me.

The purpose God gave buda is, “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground”, and no where does it say, "buda, be obedient".

Treborblue:
Will you make a wayward child that disrespects you “king”
Or will you make an obedient one that’s after your heart “King”.

If my child is wayward, then I must have failed in its education, and must be very stupid to make my way child king iver my subjects.

If my child disrespects me that child is not worthy ti be king iver my people because that child will not respect my people,and they just might rebel against my child's waywardness and end my dynasty and make someone else's child king.

And if I make my child king it can no more be obedient to me because kings are obedient to no one.

In fact, it is I who must be obedient to my king, so I better have trained my child well so it can rule judiciously, or my child the king just might order that I be beheaded, which will be within its kingly right.

Treborblue:
When I say judge God
I mean
To call his actions
Right or wrong. His actions are his actions and his will

God does not judge me. God has better things to be doing than to be wasting God's time judging buda.

Besides, the reason I ate the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is so that I may know right and wrong and judge myself with the help of the Holy Spirit that he sent to minister to me through his only begotten Son.

If I have not learnt to remove the forest from my own eyes with all that help, then I should just shut the fuq up and learn more instead of going about ignorantly judging others like a stupid noisy clanging gong.

Dtruthspeaker:
Yet you said you are Christian yet you do not know Psalm 90:4 and 2 Peter 3:8?

Even if he lived upto 999, he still did not live beyond "a day".

so stop thinking and talking rubbish.

Now you see you need understanding.
Gods time isn’t on fastforward or x2 speed
He has lived soo much time that he doesn’t see time the way that we Do. Not only him
Immortal beings view time that way.
That’s why that scripture says “ do not forget this my friends with the lord a day is like a thousand and a thousand years are like a day”. Going with your illustrations
A thousand years are like a day
Does that mean that God lives a thousand years before we live a day

If you read further you’ll see that the verse goes on to say God is patient with you. Meaning that this whole verse is someone explaining how God views things
And technically when you live millions of years you won’t view time as people who their life span is just 1000 years view time
When you know you won’t die
You won’t behave like someone who knows he will die in 50 years .
English teaches you that when someone says
“As like or are like “ they are using simile that is making a comparison.
If is was so it will be written as
“A day in God year is 1000 in man year”
Hope you understand better. Thank you for sharing