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Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op): 8:03am On Jan 26, 2025
GreatAchiever1:
The first man, Adam, was created before his wife, Eve. Adam was tasked with working and keeping the garden, while Eve was created as his helper (Genesis 2:15, 18). Humanity was named after Adam, not Eve (Genesis 5:1-2). Although Eve sinned first and gave Adam the fruit, God addressed Adam first, asking, “Where are you?” (The word “you” in Hebrew is singular) (Genesis 3:9). Adam had authority over his wife, and as such, God held him accountable for her sin. Moreover, Adam was held accountable for the sin of the entire human race.

The Hebrew word ezer does not mean “strength”; it means “helper.” To change its meaning to fit an ideology distorts the biblical text. A woman is not the strength of a man, though she is the crown of her husband (and I would say creation, more reason why she is vulnerable to being deceived, as most women already are under the guise of feminist philosophy and why it's a man's duty to protect and lead his wife). Women are undoubtedly special, but as helpers, their role is to support their husbands. Misrepresenting biblical teaching to fit a modern ideology demonstrates rebellion against God’s Word, aligning with feminist narratives. A Christian woman should stand alongside her husband as his helper, as ordained by Scripture.

Regarding culture, our current culture, including many churches, has been deeply feminized. Many churches now have ordained women pastors and women elders, delegating the masculine, authoritative task of preaching and teaching God’s Word to women. Consequently, men have become weak and passive, while women have become loud and contentious, rather than sweet, quiet, and gentle. Historically, biblical culture and even society up to like late 1800s or early 1900s was patriarchal. Men led in the home, church, and government. During that time, issues like divorce, crime, depression, and promiscuity were far less prevalent than they are today. The rise of these issues correlates with the erosion of traditional roles. There is no equality in roles and responsibilities between men and women; the relationship is hierarchical. Where equality in roles exists, it results in disorder, dysfunction, and ultimately destruction.

Now, let’s examine Genesis 3:16.

There are three interpretations of God’s pronouncement in Genesis 3:16:

1. Reaffirmation of the Creational Hierarchy:
This view sees Genesis 3:16 as reinforcing the marital hierarchy as a blessing. The wife’s desire for her husband is interpreted as devotion, and the husband’s rule over her is seen as positive leadership. This aligns with the preceding clause about childbirth (“I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing”). Despite the pain, the woman remains devoted to her husband and has children with him. However, this interpretation struggles with the context of judgment in Genesis 3:16, as it’s unclear why the man’s rule is mentioned positively when the passage deals with judgment. One explanation is that the woman’s transgression (Genesis 3:1-6) led to a “redirection” of her role, calling her back to her creation-ordained subordination to man.


2. Perversion of the Creational Hierarchy:
This view sees Genesis 3:16 as describing the distortion of roles due to sin. There are two possibilities:

Both the wife’s desire to usurp her husband’s authority and the husband’s abusive rule are viewed negatively.

The wife’s devotion to her husband is positive, but the husband’s rule becomes abusive.


This interpretation is historically popular. John Calvin, for instance, described the wife’s subjection as previously liberal and gentle but now distorted into servitude. The ESV bible translation supports this view: “Your desire shall be contrary to your husband, but he shall rule over you.” The NET Bible goes further: “You will want to control your husband, but he will dominate you.”


3. Wife’s Negative Actions, Husband’s Positive Rule:
This view interprets the wife’s desire as an attempt to usurp her husband’s authority, while the husband’s rule is a godly exercise of leadership to counteract this rebellion. This interpretation leans heavily on the parallel in Genesis 4:7 and is considered a more modern perspective and was the first interpretation I came accustomed to when I first learnt what Genesis 3:16 means.



Ultimately, the interpretation of Genesis 3:16 does not significantly alter the understanding of marital hierarchy and gender roles, as the creation account already establishes hierarchy before the fall. Regardless of the view adopted, it remains clear that God placed the husband in authority over his wife and that sin introduced corruption into this relationship.
However, egalitarians and feminists reject this creational hierarchy and attempt to root male headship solely in the fall. They often emphasize a version of View 2 that portrays the husband’s rule as introduced by God’s judgment on Eve. This perspective reflects a broader agenda to challenge traditional, biblically ordained gender roles and which ought not to be so.

(Inspired by Masculine Christianity).
Mr man, God is not limited by our culture. Culture exists to enable fairness among us as human beings.

If you read the Bible carefully, from Genesis to Revelation, you will realize that God does not operate on the principle of "this one came first" or "I gave this one the instruction first." He favours whomever He chooses.

In fact, God rarely favours firstborns; He often skips them in favour of their younger siblings. How many firstborns became kings or reputable individuals in the Bible? David, Joseph, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Solomon, and many others were not firstborns.

From Genesis to Revelation, firstborns were often associated with misfortune. Cain's offering was rejected by God, while Abel's was accepted. God hated Esau and loved Jacob. Firstborns are often overlooked. Even in the New Testament, Jesus chose to skip James, the elder brother of John, who became His beloved disciple, and He overlooked Andrew, the elder brother of Peter, who ultimately became the rock.

Go and read your Bible carefully from Genesis to Revelation and make your own discoveries; I can't keep providing you with free insights. 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by GreatAchiever1: 8:11am On Jan 26, 2025
Merry100:
Mr man, God is not limited by our culture. Culture exists to enable fairness among us as human beings.

If you read the Bible carefully, from Genesis to Revelation, you will realize that God does not operate on the principle of "this one came first" or "I gave this one the instruction first." He favours whomever He chooses.

In fact, God rarely favours firstborns; He often skips them in favour of their younger siblings. How many firstborns became kings or reputable individuals in the Bible? David, Joseph, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Solomon, and many others were not firstborns.

Firstborns are often associated with misfortune. Cain's offering was rejected by God, while Abel's was accepted. God hated Esau and loved Jacob. Firstborns are often overlooked. Even in the New Testament, Jesus chose to skip James, the elder brother of John, who became His beloved disciple, and He overlooked Andrew, the elder brother of Peter, who ultimately became the rock.

Go and read your Bible carefully from Genesis to Revelation and make your own discoveries; I can't keep providing you with free insights. 🤣🤣🤣
You have deviated from the topic of discussion to enter talk on FirstBorn. SMH.
Well, at least I have passed my message across. With this mindset of yours, no Christian man that knows his bible to some certain good extent will ever accommodate these false feminist ideologies which has no place in true biblical Christianity.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op):
GreatAchiever1:
You have deviated from the topic of discussion to enter talk on FirstBorn. SMH.
Well, at least I have passed my message across. With this mindset of yours, no Christian man that knows his bible to some certain good extent will ever accommodate these false feminist ideologies which has no place in true biblical Christianity.
Mr. Man, your perspective is confusing. On what principle did you arrive at the idea that, since God created man first, man is the ruler, even though God did not explicitly state that?

Simply stop using your biased mind to interpret the Bible, so you won't feel frustrated whenever you encounter the truth.

If I wanted to also be biased and illogical, I could claim that God prefers the second human being, which is woman, to the first human being, which is man, because "firsts" are often associated with bad luck and failure.

Even the first king, Saul, was a failure. David, the second king, is considered God's favourite.

Even a layperson can grasp my perspective. Your perspective is simply cultural; it is not based on actual Biblical principles.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Prettygirl200(f): 9:19am On Jan 26, 2025
Merry100:
First, read through the Bible to understand why men have authority over women. While the answer is not directly related to my main discoveries, it will expand your understanding of this subject.

I asked you to read the Bible because the true answer is not the one commonly known to everyone.
Because the system has been set up by men and it's a patriarchy system. I saw a video where pastor said a Christian woman has no business going to school or pursuing wealth or career, that its not christaininty, you can imagine such teachings men misleading and upholding the patriarcal system so strong and that's what feminism is fighting against.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Prettygirl200(f): 9:24am On Jan 26, 2025
Merry100:
The curse alone proves that man and woman were created equal from the beginning.

Genesis 3:16
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Man having authority over woman was not the actual plan of God, it was simply a curse.
Even the bible you keep talking about was set up by men in other to enslave people and sudue women, bc all it talked about is women beneath men hence the bible is a patriarchy weapon against women.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op): 9:29am On Jan 26, 2025
Prettygirl200:
Even the bible you keep talking about was set up by men in other to enslave people and sudue women, bc all it talked about is women beneath men hence the bible is a patriarchy weapon against women.
No, it's not. It has just been misinterpreted.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Prettygirl200(f): 9:29am On Jan 26, 2025
Merry100:
I watched a woman suffer and ultimately die from ignorance, and I wish I had known better then.

People need the right information; several women have died due to ignorance and more will continue to die if the right information is not made available.

Although I have the funds and invested resources, I feel that there is a special force limiting my ability to share my discoveries on various media channels.
A lot of Nigerian men don't know what feminism is all about they think feminism teaches women to hate men like their redpill do. No it's doesn't it's far from it. They all need to educate themselves.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Prettygirl200(f): 9:30am On Jan 26, 2025
Merry100:
No, it's not. It has just been misinterpreted.
it is.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op): 10:03am On Jan 26, 2025
Prettygirl200:
A lot of Nigerian men don't know what feminism is all about they think feminism teaches women to hate men like their redpill do. No it's doesn't it's far from it. They all need to educate themselves.
Exactly. There would not even have been a need for feminism if the prevailing culture were not oppressing one gender.

It is acceptable for a woman to choose to embrace culture but when the situation becomes burdensome and detrimental, it is better to reject the madness and uphold self-love.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op): 10:18am On Jan 26, 2025
Prettygirl200:
it is.
No, it is not. I have made numerous discoveries from the Bible that rule out the misogynistic misconceptions that have been circulating for centuries. I plan to share my findings and change the existing narrative.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Prettygirl200(f): 10:26am On Jan 26, 2025
Merry100:
Exactly. There would not even have been a need for feminism if the prevailing culture were not oppressing one gender.

It is acceptable for a woman to choose to embrace culture but when the situation becomes burdensome and detrimental, it is better to reject the madness and uphold self-love.
Exactly, the patriarchy that indoctrinated into our culture sobatages and subdue women into untold suffering, I used to think feminism was all about hating men hence I was against it but now I know better.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op):
Wallade:
Madam, if you are married, you have an option not to submit to your husband. That is your wish and it is your marriage, the energy that you give is what you get.

If you are not married, don't submit to your fiance or man. He has the option to evaluate the future with you and decide whether to marry you or look elsewhere.

Your kind of feminism is ultimately your choice, I and many of us here don't have to live with your feminist ideology.
🤣🤣🤣Brother Bernard, I am neither seeking your validation nor your hand in marriage.

I simply shared my perspective. I did not force you to accept it, and whether you like it or not is not my concern.

If only a few people here decide to adhere to the truth, I am satisfied, as I have not even started spreading the message.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Wallade(m): 10:53am On Jan 26, 2025
Merry100:
🤣🤣🤣Brother Bernard, I am neither seeking your validation nor your hand in marriage.

I simply shared my perspective. I did not force you to accept it, and whether you like it or not is not my concern.

If only a few people here decide to adhere to the truth, I am satisfied, as I have even started spreading the message.
Not interested, this is problem personified.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op): 10:57am On Jan 26, 2025
Wallade:
Not interested, this is problem personified.
🤣🤣🤣 The feeling is mutual.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Magnificenttop:
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by budaatum: 8:23pm On Jan 26, 2025
Magnificenttop:
Ever since, majority countries and societies are ruled by men, groups, family ruled by men, positions of authority are most times held by men. Most inventions and innovations are by men. You made your comment on a forum owned by a man with a device made by men.
But since you're too heartbroken to accept the reality of life for what it is, the only way to cope with your frustration is vent out on some Bible writers who are long gone for thousands of years.
The only reason Bible or any other religious book is a subject of discussion here is those are what men wrote to programme your so called "reality of life" which is changing gradually all over the world as more people realise those books did not fall from heaven.

As for frustration, let me put my feet down from where they are up relaxing so you can see how heartbroken I am not, though I'm very certain you'd argue I am.
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Magnificenttop:
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by budaatum: 12:24am On Jan 27, 2025
Magnificenttop:
Before the Bible, has always been that way, Bible came, same way, Bible rejected but things still stayed that way. Many klowns way before you were born, been fighting hard to consciously change it but it still remained that way and will always remain that way.
Let's blame John the Baptist and the rest because this forum is owned by a man and not by you while all you can do it rant about it through a device made by men.
It pleases me to know you are not one of the redpillers that feminism has overcome.

"It will always remain that way", lol.

Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Magnificenttop:
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op):
Magnificenttop:
Redpile? I don't even know what that means.
I, already made peace with both pros and cons of being male but feminism, appears to be a cope-mechanism exhibited during lamentation by those confused and frustrated at why they can't eat their cake and still have it.
As for your uploaded jpg, I think your fellow confused klowns need it more - those who daily rely on men, who intentionally wear skimpy skirts but forcefully pull it down while being angry at why it's so short, those who portray themselves as s-objects but angry when seen as such. What difference would that make though, when you the uploader itself lives in a house made by men, using a gadget by men, on a forum owned by a man, still confused and ranting why things are what they are.
Keep your cope-mechanisms handy because nothing is gon change.
Next time, ensure that you conduct thorough research before making comments like this. There are many successful women who have struggled to achieve their success. Stop describing women as sex objects who depend on men for survival.

Anyway, I don't blame you; you probably hold these views because of the circle you belong to or the dating environment you are part of.

Have you ever seen a successful man with good values make misogynistic posts or comments? Even the owner of this forum does not appear to harbour misogynistic or hateful attitudes toward women.

Real men are primarily concerned about the comfort, satisfaction, and happiness of both themselves and their partners. Many average Nigerian men are insecure, leading them to assert authority by controlling their partners and making unnecessary decisions that disregard their partners' comfort, satisfaction and happiness.

I know accomplished married women who are going through a lot in their marriages.

A woman was abused by her husband over a trivial issue to the point that she suffered a miscarriage. She prepares breakfast each morning before leaving for work, but she often makes dinner late because she arrives home late due to her job. Her husband was not satisfied with this; he insisted that she quit her job to cater to him, claiming that he cannot be married and live like a bachelor.

They had been married for barely a year, I advised her to try to make things work. I suggested that she prepare meals on weekends or hire someone to help her with meal preparation and store the food in the freezer so her husband could microwave it and eat when he wanted. I thought this would resolve the issue, but it did not. Her husband believes she should be home to serve him dinner every day.

The constant arguments escalated to beating one day, ultimately leading to her miscarriage.

In fact, real men defend women against misogynistic behaviours or attacks.

Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Magnificenttop:
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op):
Magnificenttop:
Women are God's gifts and real men defend them, the only issue is where are real women.
If you're one of the good women, speak for yourself alone, you cannot speak for all.
No one describing women as s-object but the way many women intentionally chose to portray themselves.
Moreover the reply was in response to the person who was blaming writers of the Bible for the place of women in our world.
Whose fault is many women are on tiktok twerking while men are busy inventing?
Whose fault is majority of leaders worldwide are men? Whose fault is this forum is being owned by a man and not a woman? Should we blame John the Baptist for that?
It's just reality naturally dishing out to all according to what is deserved or else some people who chose to be dissatisfied with their natural position/role based on their gender.
Male rituals and fraudsters are often portrayed online; however, we do not judge men based on these representations or describe them as wicked and irresponsible. Instead, we recognize that there are responsible men out there as well.

Whose fault is it that some men are involved in rituals? Whose fault is it that several young men engage in scams? Whose fault is it that just like men, women are also serving as presidents and leaders? Whose fault is it that there are websites and forums owned by women as well? Should we blame Methuselah for that?

It is just reality naturally dishing out to all what is deserved, which is one reason feminism exists. Some women have chosen to speak up when they feel dissatisfied, uncomfortable, or unhappy with the cultural standards that have been established.

Queen Elizabeth II ruled England for 70 years before her demise. Many countries have had female presidents, and women are currently serving as head of governments and presidents in some nations.

Bangladesh Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2009 - present

Barbados President 2021- present

Denmark Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2019- present

Estonia Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2021- present

Georgia President 2018 - present

Greece President 2020 - present

Honduras President 2022 - present

Iceland (most peaceful country in the world) Prime Minister 2024 - present

India President 2022 - present

Italy Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2022 - present

Latvia Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2023 - present

Lithuania Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2020 - present

Moldova President 2020 - present

Namibia Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2015 - present

Peru Present 2022 - present

Samoa Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2021 - present

Slovenia President 2022 - present

Taiwan President 2016 - present

Tanzania President 2021 - present

Togo Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2020 - present

Trinidad and Tobago President 2023 - present
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op):
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Magnificenttop:
Merry100:
Male rituals and fraudsters are often portrayed online; however, we do not judge men based on these representations or describe them as wicked and irresponsible. Instead, we recognize that there are responsible men out there as well.

Whose fault is it that some men are involved in rituals? Whose fault is it that several young men engage in scams? Whose fault is it that just like men, women are also serving as presidents and leaders? Whose fault is it that there are websites and forums owned by women as well? Should we blame Methuselah for that?

It is just reality naturally dishing out to all what is deserved, which is one reason feminism exists. Some women have chosen to speak up when they feel dissatisfied, uncomfortable, or unhappy with the cultural standards that have been established.

Queen Elizabeth II ruled England for 70 years before her demise. Many countries have had female presidents, and women are currently serving as head of governments and presidents in some nations.

Bangladesh Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2009 - present

Barbados President 2021- present

Denmark Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2019- present

Estonia Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2021- present

Georgia President 2018 - present

Greece President 2020 - present

Honduras President 2022 - present

Iceland (most peaceful country in the world) Prime Minister 2024 - present

India President 2022 - present

Italy Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2022 - present

Latvia Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2023 - present

Lithuania Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2020 - present

Moldova President 2020 - present

Namibia Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2015 - present

Peru Present 2022 - present

Samoa Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2021 - present

Slovenia President 2022 - present

Taiwan President 2016 - present

Tanzania President 2021 - present

Togo Prime Minister (Head of Government) 2020 - present

Trinidad and Tobago President 2023 - present
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by emma2018:
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Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by emma2018: 5:53pm On Feb 07, 2025
Merry100:
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Dear merry i quoted u on a dead thread
Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op):
emma2018:
Dear merry i quoted u on a dead thread
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Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by emma2018:
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Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by Merry100(op): 6:04pm On Feb 09, 2025
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Re: Nigerian women brings more to the table than Nigerian men by emma2018: 6:08pm On Feb 09, 2025
Merry100:
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I am grateful merry
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