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Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 12:57pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
No single prophet is saved yet only those that followed Jesus are saved as for the prophets they will be resurrected to practice what Jesus taught before they can be saved! smiley
That's false.
Allah sent everyone on a mission and they have fulfilled their mission before Jesus. Only Muhammad completed his mission after Jesus.
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:07pm On Mar 18, 2025
Antichristian2:
That's false.
Allah sent everyone on a mission and they have fulfilled their mission before Jesus. Only Muhammad completed his mission after Jesus.
That's what Islam taught you but the fact is that all those prophets died as Adam's descendants {Romans 5:12} without having a father that can stand as their ancestor through whom they can gain salvation (everlasting life) that's why Jesus is called the "everlasting father" {Isaiah 9:6} unlike Adam through whom all humans became sinners and dying it's only through Jesus that anyone no matter who he or she is can gain everlasting life (salvation) 1Corinthans 15:45
You can continue arguing with your friends but this is the absolute truth! smiley
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 1:13pm On Mar 18, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
That's what Islam taught you but the fact is that all those prophets died as Adam's descendants {Romans 5:12} without having a father that can stand as their ancestor through whom they can gain salvation (everlasting life) that's why Jesus is called the "everlasting father" {Isaiah 9:6} unlike Adam through whom all humans became sinners and dying it's only through Jesus that anyone no matter who he or she is can gain everlasting life (salvation) 1Corinthans 15:45
You can continue arguing with your friends but this is the absolute truth! smiley
Is Jesus too not Adam's decendant? Luke 3:23-38 presents a genealogy of Jesus, starting with Jesus himself and tracing his lineage back to Adam, ultimately to God. Who called Jesus everlasting father? Who did Jesus father? Abeg!

Jesus had genes and blood!

Bros, i don tell you, all this your false New York city ideology from Charles Taze ehn no go work with me!
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:16pm On Mar 18, 2025
Antichristian2:
Is Jesus too not Adam's decendant? Luke 3:23-38 presents a genealogy of Jesus, starting with Jesus himself and tracing his lineage back to Adam, ultimately to God. Who called Jesus everlasting father? Who did Jesus father? Abeg!
Jesus had genes and blood!
Bros, i don tell you, all this your false New York city ideology from Charles Taze ehn no go work with me!
According to your Quran was Jesus born through the reproduction process? smiley
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by delkuf(m): 1:21pm On Mar 18, 2025
Antichristian2:
Is Jesus too not Adam's decendant? Luke 3:23-38 presents a genealogy of Jesus, starting with Jesus himself and tracing his lineage back to Adam, ultimately to God. Who called Jesus everlasting father? Who did Jesus father? Abeg!

Jesus had genes and blood!

Bros, i don tell you, all this your false New York city ideology from Charles Taze ehn no go work with me!
see as Muslim dey school maxindhouse. If you are out of Jesus, you are out
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:25pm On Mar 18, 2025
delkuf:
see as Muslim dey school maxindhouse. If you are out of Jesus, you are out.
Olódo! cheesy
Who is the everlasting father? Isaiah 9:6
Why was Jesus' birth without sexual reproduction? smiley
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MightySparrow: 2:18pm On Mar 18, 2025
Antichristian2:
All Prophets did!
Why is Jesus called The Saviour ?
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 2:20pm On Mar 18, 2025
MightySparrow:
Why is Jesus called The Saviour
Saviour that can't save himself!
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MightySparrow: 2:34pm On Mar 18, 2025
Antichristian2:
Saviour that can't save himself!
Mohammed (SAW) could not save his parents from the raging fire. He begged Allah, but he refused

Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 2:44pm On Mar 18, 2025
MightySparrow:
Mohammed (SAW) could not save his parents from the raging fire. He begged Allah, but he refused
Show me how Abraham saved his father?

Show me how Jesus saved Joseph?

Or Did Joseph died as a Christian?

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." Exekiel 18:20
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MightySparrow: 2:47pm On Mar 18, 2025
Antichristian2:
Show me how Abraham saved his father?

Show me how Jesus saved Joseph?

Or Did Joseph died as a Christian?

The soul who sins shall die. The son shall not bear the guilt of the father, nor the father bear the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." Exekiel 18:20
They all died as Christian.
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 2:52pm On Mar 18, 2025
MightySparrow:
They all died as Christian.
Give us blibical proofs!

And don't go gbogoin as usual or divert!
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MightySparrow: 2:57pm On Mar 18, 2025
Antichristian2:
Give us blibical proofs!

And don't go gbogoin as usual or divert!
Jesus spanned Genesis to Revelations. He is the object and the subject throughout.

John.5.39 - Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Gabrielshow24: 5:29pm On Mar 18, 2025
Antichristian2:
The New Testament is based on hearsays mostly as Jesus was not involved at all in its development. It was developed decades after Jesus. If you were told to write down the life story of your dad as you are now you will only be able to write what you witnessed especially when grown!

Those disciple met Jesus when he was about 30 years. It was clear they did incorporate hearsays as evident in what Luke said in Luke 1:1-4.
Bloody hypocrite 😂😂😂.
You can see the "decades" in Christianity but you can't see the 200+ years in Islam😂😂😂
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Gabrielshow24: 5:31pm On Mar 18, 2025
MightySparrow:
Mohammed (SAW) could not save his parents from the raging fire. He begged Allah, but he refused
Mohammed that was not certain of where he was going to 😂😂😂!!!
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MightySparrow: 9:29pm On Mar 18, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Mohammed that was not certain of where he was going to 😂😂😂!!!
Blind leading another blind?
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 9:35am On Mar 19, 2025
MightySparrow:
Jesus spanned Genesis to Revelations. He is the object and the subject throughout.

John.5.39 - Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
You said they all died as Christians.

Show us where anyone died as Christians in the Old testament you liar!


MightySparrow:
They all died as Christian.
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MightySparrow: 1:23pm On Mar 19, 2025
Antichristian2:
You said they all died as Christians.

Show us where anyone died as Christians in the Old testament you liar!
Did Mohammed need a saviour?
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 2:47pm On Mar 19, 2025
MightySparrow:
Did Mohammed need a saviour?
Petty Diversion!

You said they all died as Christians.

Show us where anyone died as Christians in the Old testament you liar!
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MightySparrow: 2:50pm On Mar 19, 2025
Antichristian2:
Petty Diversion!

You said they all died as Christians.

Show us where anyone died as Christians in the Old testament you liar!
I laugh in al- jaanah's language.
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 2:53pm On Mar 19, 2025
MightySparrow:
I laugh in al- jaanah's language.
It's better to keep mute than to continue to lie without proof!

"He who sits in the heavens laughs" Psalm 2:4 He remain small make them talk say God dey marry!

Continue to laugh!
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by gohf: 3:20pm On Mar 19, 2025
Antichristian2:
Yes, now the salvation is based on following Muhammad.

During Muhammad salvation was based on following Jesus.

During Moses's time salvation was based on following him.
so did Muhammad follow Jesus?
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by gohf: 3:26pm On Mar 19, 2025
Antichristian2:
The New Testament is based on hearsays mostly as Jesus was not involved at all in its development. It was developed decades after Jesus. If you were told to write down the life story of your dad as you are now you will only be able to write what you witnessed especially when grown!

Those disciple met Jesus when he was about 30 years. It was clear they did incorporate hearsays as evident in what Luke said in Luke 1:1-4.
whether they incorporated hear says or not it doesn't invalidate the gospel. People remember things differently which proofs such a thing actually occurred. If you ask 100 different people about a particular incident they will answer you based on their perspective and memory.

If you go for a lecture all of the students would recall different things does that mean the lecture didn't occur? Of course it doesn't.
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 3:35pm On Mar 19, 2025
gohf:
so did Muhammad follow Jesus?
No! Jesus was meant to be be followed by the israelites until Muhammad came!

When Muhammad came he became the Prophet of all mankind!

A prominent hadith, narrated by Abu Huraira, states that Prophet Muhammad said, "Both in this world and in the Hereafter, I am the nearest of all the people to Jesus, the son of Mary. The prophets are paternal brothers; their mothers are different, but their religion is one."
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 3:37pm On Mar 19, 2025
gohf:
whether they incorporated hear says or not it doesn't invalidate the gospel. People remember things differently which proofs such a thing actually occurred. If you ask 100 different people about a particular incident they will answer you based on their perspective and memory.

If you go for a lecture all of the students would recall different things does that mean the lecture didn't occur? Of course it doesn't.
But there will be additions and subtractions!

How can you judge with such narrations?
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MightySparrow: 3:40pm On Mar 19, 2025
Antichristian2:
It's better to keep mute than to 1¹ the 1rd



continue to lie without proof!

"He who sits in the heavens laughs" Psalm 2:4 He remain small make them talk say God dey marry!

Continue to laugh!
The Bible says:
Matt.7.6 - Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


huh ?
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by gohf: 3:42pm On Mar 19, 2025
Antichristian2:
But there will be additions and subtractions!

How can you judge with such narrations?
what do you want to judge? Whether the teaching occured or not?
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Kobojunkie: 3:45pm On Mar 19, 2025
The Bible says:
Matt.7.6 - Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.
huh ?
The same Jesus Christ of Israel equally pointed out in the Gospels that the dogs were the non-Israelites. But of course, Religion has no place in the facts aka the Truths of YHWH and His Son, Jesus Christ. undecided
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by gohf: 3:46pm On Mar 19, 2025
Antichristian2:
No! Jesus was meant to be be followed by the israelites until Muhammad came!

When Muhammad came he became the Prophet of all mankind!

A prominent hadith, narrated by Abu Huraira, states that Prophet Muhammad said, "Both in this world and in the Hereafter, I am the nearest of all the people to Jesus, the son of Mary. The prophets are paternal brothers; their mothers are different, but their religion is one."
he the nearest of all people to Jesus, so tell us why do you believe that?

Seeing as you reject the writings of those who were Jews and had heard from him and about him.
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 3:48pm On Mar 19, 2025
MightySparrow:
The Bible says:
Matt.7.6 - Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


huh ?
Tell us who is talking in the Bible as the Bible has no mouth!

Did the Bible tell you to lie?

MightySparrow:
Mohammed (SAW) could not save his parents from the raging fire. He begged Allah, but he refused
Bring the evidence that he begged Allah!

Show us where anyone died as Christians in the Old testament you liar!
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by Antichristian2(op): 3:51pm On Mar 19, 2025
gohf:
what do you want to judge? Whether the teaching occured or not?
All scriptures are usually written by verified and known people unlike the Bible!

The scripture revealed to Moses is definitely not the Old testament you have today!

Also Jesus was not aware of anything in the New testament!

Of course some may be right but it's a mix.
Re: Is The New Testament A Requirement For Salvation? by MightySparrow: 3:51pm On Mar 19, 2025
Antichristian2:
Tell us who is talking in the Bible as the Bible has no mouth!

Did the Bible tell you to lie?



Bring the evidence that he begged Allah!

Show us where anyone died as Christians in the Old testament you liar!
So you don't know your Hadiths and come here running your mouth on the Bible?
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