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See, if ur friend's son is on the verge of dieing and the docs wouldn't here anything unless u deposit at least 50k...


Your friend is totally broke because he has been on this child's health matter for months which has totally drained him... He reaches out to u for the 50k.. u check ur account , u have 1.2 million ND still working and earning... He promised to pay back in a months time when he is back to work.. u know he is capable...

But u chose to do the Nigerian thing... Leme giv him half let other help him complete it...

U sent him half.. he begged u he doesn't have anywhere else to go.. u got angry dt he should b grateful.....he couldn't pay the 50k..after 2days..his son dies...he never totally blamed u..but he sent back ur 25k immidiately the son died...ND start to keep u at arms length with only formal greetings...

Will u have the clear conscience that after all u helped him..

Question is,did you help your friend..?

blacksam01:
See, if ur friend's son is on the verge of dieing and the docs wouldn't here anything unless u deposit at least 50k...


Your friend is totally broke because he has been on this child's health matter for months which has totally drained him... He reaches out to u for the 50k.. u check ur account , u have 1.2 million ND still working and earning... He promised to pay back in a months time when he is back to work.. u know he is capable...

But u chose to do the Nigerian thing... Leme giv him half let other help him complete it...

U sent him half.. he begged u he doesn't have anywhere else to go.. u got angry dt he should b grateful.....he couldn't pay the 50k..after 2days..his son dies...he never totally blamed u..but he sent back ur 25k immidiately the son died...ND start to keep u at arms length with only formal greetings...

Will u have the clear conscience that after all u helped him..

Question is,did you help your friend..?

Reconstruct brother!

That saying of let me give him half so he can go find the rest outside is totally dubious and ungodly. GOD says we should give our brother/friend ' sufficient to meet their need'. HE also said lest they cry to HIM and HE deals accordingly with us. So even if we don't fear men, let us fear God and learn to help those in need. It is a sure protection for us against many things.

For me and my belief system, no you haven’t helped.

Mom007:
That saying of let me give him half so he can go find the rest outside is totally dubious and ungodly. GOD says we should give our brother/friend ' sufficient to meet their need'. HE also said lest they cry to HIM and HE deals accordingly with us. So even if we don't fear men, let us fear God and learn to help those in need. It is a sure protection for us against many things.

Dubious?? On top money u gave to someone?

Be preaching what u yourself don't practice. when was the last time u went out to give to pple all that they need .......abi you nor see pple that are in need around you....??

Where did God say u must give someone all they ask from you..??
Don't get me wrong ....if the oo gave all the 50k that's great....i.but it isn't a crime or a sin because he gave 25k..

Your story is once sided and sounds entitled.

Having a million naira (or more) in your account doesn't translate to you having enough money to give around. You should know that people have their own problems they're struggling to solve as well.

If you're the kind of person who lends money to friends regularly, you'll understand that most Nigerians don't pay back loans.

Many would even tell you to your face that you're doing better than them financially, you're driving a car and live well, and yet you still expect them to pay you back can't you even dash them the money, forgetting that they were the ones who went into the agreement of paying back.

They'll see you as a stingy and wicked person. Some would even vow behind your back never to pay you back. This is why most people just give you an amount they can afford to let go whenever you ask them for money. So even if you chose not to repay them back, they won't feel it.

No one owes you anything in this life. The moment you condition yourself to live that way, you won't live your life expecting people to always come to your rescue, and getting angry when they don't.

advanceDNA:
Dubious?? On top money u gave to someone?

Be preaching what u yourself don't practice. when was the last time u went out to give to pple all that they need .......abi you nor see pple that are in need around you....??

Where did God say u must give someone all they ask from you..??
Don't get me wrong ....if the oo gave all the 50k that's great....i.but it isn't a crime or a sin because he gave 25k..

I speak obviously to Christians. If you are one then read deuteronomy 15 from vs 7 down to the end and choose to do right or not. That's the power of choice. If you are not a Christian then move along, I was not speaking to you. And mind you, I don't say what I don't do. If I have, I give to those in need because I KNOW it is part of my service to God.

Mom007:
I speak obviously to Christians. If you are one then read deuteronomy 15 from vs 7 down to the end and choose to do right or not. That's the power of choice. If you are not a Christian then move along, I was not speaking to you. And mind you, I don't say what I don't do. If I have, I give to those in need because I KNOW it is part of my service to God.

It's funny that u are quoting Deuteronomy and saying you are talking to christians...how about read where you are not to eat fish without scales like titus or not enter God's presence when u are doing your monthly period....??

Giving is a good thing.....but u are just creating personal standards from God's words...Weda u are talking to christians or pagans... Calling someone dubious for giving 25k to someone that ask for 50k is forming over righteous.....is that the only person the op will give to....??

There is no where Jesus says give everyone that comes to you all they ask from you....

Yes I help him

Baronthecelebri:
Yes I help him

But his son still died

advanceDNA:
It's funny that u are quoting Deuteronomy and saying you are talking to christians...how about read where you are not to eat fish without scales like titus or not enter God's presence when u are doing your monthly period....??

Giving is a good thing.....but u are just creating personal standards from God's words...Weda u are talking to christians or pagans... Calling someone dubious for giving 25k to someone that ask for 50k is forming over righteous.....is that the only person the op will give to....??

There is no where Jesus says give everyone that comes to you all they ask from you....

I typically don't argue religion but do not misquote me. Where did I say giving someone 25k was Dubious? Use your brain, if you have one. I said the mentality of giving someone who needed a fixed amount for an emergency just a fraction of that amount, and asking them to seek the rest elsewhere is Dubious. Not that you don't have. Shebi you saw it in the bible. .. what are you still arguing about? Are u wiser than God? What concerns eating fish with what is on ground now?are you trying to discount the instruction just because it's in the old testament? Y not discount the whole 10 commandments while you're at it?

Mom007:
I typically don't argue religion but do not misquote me. Where did I say giving someone 25k was Dubious? Use your brain, if you have one. I said the mentality of giving someone who needed a fixed amount for an emergency just a fraction of that amount, and asking them to seek the rest elsewhere is Dubious. Not that you don't have. Shebi you saw it in the bible. .. what are you still arguing about? Are u wiser than God? What concerns eating fish with what is on ground now?are you trying to discount the instruction just because it's in the old testament? Y not discount the whole 10 commandments while you're at it?

Yawn!!
insults have started flying because u need to justify calling someone dubious for giving what they want...
..there is no compulsion what so ever in giving ..there is no rule....the bible is very clear......u can try to maneuver it with any scriptures u like to justify calling the person dubious

..there is no where Jesus said u must give all that a persons ask for...wherever the person wants to go and source for it is left to them and the nature of their need...

advanceDNA:
Yawn!!
insults have started flying because u need to justify calling someone dubious for giving what they want...
..there is no compulsion what so ever in giving ..there is no rule....the bible is very clear......u can try to maneuver it with any scriptures u like to justify calling the person dubious

..there is no where Jesus said u must give all that a persons ask for...wherever the person wants to go and source for it is left to them and the nature of their need...

Oh? The insults just started flying because I replied you with the same attitude you are putting out? When you are rude and obtuse, it's fine but when called out for it, it's an insult? Are you serious right now? Anyway, there's no point replying you any further. Besides what is EXPLICITLY stated in the scriptures i very generously quoted, the Jesus you are trying to get to back up your devilish thinking, said to do unto others what you want them to do to you. He created us all with brains and expects us to use those brains to figure out what is implied in situations like this. Life has a way of enrolling you wicked lots in the school of hard knocks so you can taste first hand of the words you speak of so casually.

If I have the money to help then I would; no questions asked. If I can borrow or find someone that can help then I would do that too. I couldn't live with myself if I let someone down when I was capable of picking them up.

That's just me. I don't care what others do because I don't have to live in their skin.

In Islam, we are taught that when someone asks you for help, God has already added their portion to your plate so you are giving them their right.

If you refuse to help your brother or sister then you have stolen their portion because it was God who sent them to you.

On the day of recognition, you will be asked about that event. And If you don't have the means to help them then you support them through their pain however you can. I'm proud to call myself a Muslim. Alhamdulilaah.

Mom007:
Oh? The insults just started flying because I replied you with the same attitude you are putting out?

oh
Attitude..?? Right from my first comment, what I pointed out is u calling someone dubious for the amount they gave out of what they asked ......it's just giving ....how did dubious came into it is strange.....but hey!! I guess it's bad attitude to you because u don't like being pointed out

Mom007:
When you are rude and obtuse, it's fine but when called out for it, it's an insult?

I was never rude to u....u just couldn't handle a civil conversation becos it involves u calling someone dubious and trying to to justify it ..

Mom007:
Are you serious right now? Anyway, there's no point replying you any further. The Jesus you are trying to get to back up your devilish thinking,

devilish?? Lol.... U sure the have a way of throwing derogatory words at every action....first it's dubious because the guy gave 25k out of 50k ....now I'm devilish because I've been asking how dubious entered the giving matter

Mom007:
said to do unto others what you want them to do to you.

yeah...that's a good scripture...and the Op gave....
.why do u think giving the whole 50k is the only way the op would have obeyed that scripture

Mom007:
He created us all with brains and expects us to use those brains to figure out what is implied in situations like this. Life has a way of enrolling you wicked lots in the school of hard knocks so you can taste first hand of the words you speak of so casually.

Lol...now it's wickedness...hahahahaha!!!
.it's not that deep....the op gave..... that's what he felt like giving....I still don't get how that's dubious...

advanceDNA:
oh
Attitude..?? Right from my first comment, what I pointed out is u calling someone dubious for the amount they gave out of what they asked ......it's just giving ....how did dubious came into it is strange.....but hey!! I guess it's bad attitude to you because u don't like being pointed out

I was never rude to u....u just couldn't handle a civil conversation becos it involves u calling someone dubious and trying to to justify it ..

devilish?? Lol.... U sure the have a way of throwing derogatory words at every action....first it's dubious because the guy gave 25k out of 50k ....now I'm devilish because I've been asking how entered the giving matter

yeah...that's a good scripture...and the Op gave....
.why do u think giving the whole 50k is the only way the op would have obeyed that scripture



Lol...now it's wickedness...hahahahaha!!!
.it's not that deep....the op gave..... that's what he felt like giving....I still don't get how that's dubious...

Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? If I had money in my pocket as your "friend" and you ask me for a small amount of it to take a bus home and I give half the fair amount and tell you to go beg others for the rest, would you think I'm good person and a good friend to you? If I leave you at the bus stop and jump on the same bus home while you stand there wondering how to get the rest! Is that no a dubious, devious way to treat my so called friends? I think you just enjoy arguing because there's nothing profound about mom007s comments.

Brandiebird:
Are you just arguing for the sake of arguing? If I had money in my pocket as your "friend" and you ask me for a small amount of it to take a bus home and I give half the fair amount and tell you to go beg others for the rest, would you think I'm good person and a good friend to you? If I leave you at the bus stop and jump on the same bus home while you stand there wondering how to get the rest! Is that no a dubious, devious way to treat my so called friends? .

that's what u felt like giving ...why would I think you are dubious or devious for giving something to me....
.do I know how much u have on you...or it's not possible that's ur last change after paying ur transport??
. U still gave me something....I could someone else to give me to make it complete.....or I could just walk...

advanceDNA:
that's what u felt like giving ...why would I think you are dubious or devious for giving something to me....
.do I know how much u have on you...or it's not possible that's ur last change after paying ur transport??
. U still gave me something....I could someone else to give me to make it complete.....or I could just walk...

I just told you that I have it but I chose to give you half! I'm your friend so you know that I have it because the bus driver gave me change from my own fare! I'm giving you a specific scenario and you're creating your own narrative! Lol! You just like to be contrarian

Brandiebird:
I just told you that I have it but I chose to give you half! I'm your friend so you know that I have it because the bus driver gave me change from my own fare! I'm giving you a specific scenario and you're creating your own narrative! Lol! You just like to be contrarian

The analogy u are painting isn't possible in real life...u are just trying to paint worst case scenario to also justify being dubious

.. U cant tell me you have 5000naira but you will only give me 100naira out of the 200naira I asked for your transport home....

Nice try though

advanceDNA:
The analogy u are painting isn't possible in real life...u are just trying to paint worst case scenario to also justify being dubious

.. U cant tell me you have 5000naira but I will only give me 100naira out of the 200naira I asked for your transport home....

Nice try though

That's exactly what the op is conveying but you just said it's okay to give 25k out 50k when the person giving has access to millions! It's not me exaggerating it's me giving you the same scenario using a different need and amount. You just like to argue sir so I bow out gracefully! You are right! Here's your cookie 🥠

Brandiebird:
That's exactly what the op is conveying but you just said it's okay to give 25k out 50k when the person giving has access to millions! It's not me exaggerating it's me giving you the same scenario using a different need and amount. You just like to argue sir so I bow out gracefully! You are right! Here's your cookie 🥠

That's not what the op is conveying sir.....he never said he told his friend he has millions but is only giving 25k for his son in the hospital....like I said no one will say that in real life

He's only conveying that to us on nairaland perhaps because he feels guilty the child died...

Brandiebird:
That's exactly what the op is conveying but you just said it's okay to give 25k out 50k when the person giving has access to millions! It's not me exaggerating it's me giving you the same scenario using a different need and amount. You just like to argue sir so I bow out gracefully! You are right! Here's your cookie 🥠

Btw....what do u mean by I just like to argue...?? U know I've noticed that pple like when pple just agree with their opinion on here...then they start to insult u just because u have a different view....lol
....I don't get why that's a bad thing to u just because I don't agree there's nothing dubious about it....

advanceDNA:
That's not what the op is conveying sir.....he never said he told his friend he has millions but is only giving 25k for his son in the hospital....like I said no one will say that in real life

He's only conveying that to us on nairaland perhaps because he feels guilty the child died...

See what I mean! Op is a hypothetical scenario not something that happened.

The op is from the position that YOU are the friend! You have 1.2M and your friend needs 50k to pay for medical aid and YOU with your 1.2m offer YOUR FRIEND 25k and tell YOUR FRIEND to look for the rest. This what I mean about arguing for the sake of arguing. You seem to create your own narrative while ignoring the FACTS on ground! I don't need people to agree with me but I hate arguing for the sake of arguing. Your argument has to be based on the facts on ground not your interpretation of the facts. 😡

Nazgul:
Your story is once sided and sounds entitled.

Having a million naira (or more) in your account doesn't translate to you having enough money to give around. You should know that people have their own problems they're struggling to solve as well.

If you're the kind of person who lends money to friends regularly, you'll understand that most Nigerians don't pay back loans.

Many would even tell you to your face that you're doing better than them financially, you're driving a car and live well, and yet you still expect them to pay you back can't you even dash them the money, forgetting that they were the ones who went into the agreement of paying back.

They'll see you as a stingy and wicked person. Some would even vow behind your back never to pay you back. This is why most people just give you an amount they can afford to let go whenever you ask them for money. So even if you chose not to repay them back, they won't feel it.

No one owes you anything in this life. The moment you condition yourself to live that way, you won't live your life expecting people to always come to your rescue, and getting angry when they don't.

Ofcus the story is One-sided, buh coming from a guilty conscience makes the story credible enough ..

Having over a 1m in account and your friend needing just 50k barely 5% of your account not even net worth means you are over eligible to help

As far as this case is concern you have a 50k to throw away and you wont even feel it,

We all have problems but problem pass problem your own need my be 20m but a friend net problem is just 100k ... nothing stops you from blessing that friend, make e leave God alone to attend to you

Entitlement is not as Evil as our Generation try to promulgate, why are we friends if i cant ask you for help or you dare not ask me

We all have our stories of ingrate friends, But thats clearly not the story of today.

Nobody owes you anything 100% but no man is an island ... even dangote go get people e dey call for favours

Brandiebird:
See what I mean! Op is a hypothetical scenario not something that happened.

The op is from the position that YOU are the friend! You have 1.2M and your friend needs 50k to pay for medical aid and YOU with your 1.2m offer YOUR FRIEND 25k and tell YOUR FRIEND to look for the rest. This what I mean about arguing for the sake of arguing. You seem to create your own narrative while ignoring the FACTS on ground! I don't need people to agree with me but I hate arguing for the sake of arguing. Your argument has to be based on the facts on ground not your interpretation of the facts. 😡

.even if it's hypothetical.....I don't see where he mentioned that he said so to his friend....

In the hypothetical scenario....he's asking a different audience if he still helped his friend..like I said perhaps from a guilty conscience.

We don't have to agree though...I don't get why u are using an angry emoji....see why I said u pple always want others to agree with you

advanceDNA:
.even if it's hypothetical.....I don't see where he mentioned that he said so to his friend....

In the hypothetical scenario....he's asking a different audience if he still helped his friend..like I said perhaps from a guilty conscience.

We don't have to agree though...I don't get why u are suing an angry emoji....see why I said u pple always want others to agree with you

You have to be trolling me! If I say my mind now it will be like I'm insulting you so I wish you a blessed day ahead! ♥

Brandiebird:
You have to be trolling me! If I say my mind now it will be like I'm insulting you so I wish you a blessed day ahead! ♥

This is hilarious....why would u want to insult me....its not that deep sir

advanceDNA:
This is hilarious....why would u want to insult me....its not that deep sir

I'm a mama btw! It's never that serious, have a good one!