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Truthseeker10:
Explain John 14:28 below.

King James Bible
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

The doctrine of the Trinity is a paradox. When Jesus said that the Father was greater than he,

he jesus was referring to his temporary position on earth.

Talking Points: The doctrine of the Trinity: There is one God in being who exists eternally in three distinct persons.

GOD as a man called jesus was limited because he was in a body that God prepared for jesus

That why he can even cry and shit and bleed and hunger and drink water and pray and do all sort of things that human a limited too

So it doesn't mean he is Not God when he do this things

May God open your eyes

Now let look at what the father says about who jesus is


Isaiah 9:6 ►
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

New Living Translation
For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will rest on his shoulders. And he will be called:
Wonderful Counselor,
Mighty God,
Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace.

Father God calls jesus

Ever lasting Father

Kingsnairaland:
GOD said all have sinned why should you be looking for the sin they have done it shows you don't respect God when he said all have sinned

Why would I not look for the sins God Said they have done so that I too can avoid them, if I don't want the things that happened to them, to happen to me?

Do you see how you are the one throwing yourselves into danmation?

It Written
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you:

Kingsnairaland:
The doctrine of the Trinity is a paradox. When Jesus said that the Father was greater than he,

he jesus was referring to his temporary position on earth.

Talking Points: The doctrine of the Trinity: There is one God in being who exists eternally in three distinct persons.

GOD as a man called jesus was limited because he was in a body that God prepared for jesus

That why he can even cry and shit and bleed and hunger and drink water and pray and do all sort of things that human a limited too

So it doesn't mean he is Not God when he do this things

May God open your eyes

Now let look at what the father says about who jesus is


Isaiah 9:6 ►
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

New Living Translation
For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will rest on his shoulders. And he will be called:
Wonderful Counselor,
Mighty God,
Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace.

Father God calls jesus

Ever lasting Father

GOD even calls jesus mighty God

Kingsnairaland:
He does not understand it he is waiting for God to tell him their particular sin before he beliefs they have sinned

If it is so, then let him answer the questions I have asked him.

Dtruthspeaker:
If it is so, then let him answer the questions I have asked him.

What did you ask

Since you don't want to belive God when God said all have sinned

Dtruthspeaker:
Why would I not look for the sins God Said they have done so that I too can avoid them, if I don't want the things that happened to them, to happen to me?

Do you see how you are the one throwing yourselves into danmation?

It Written
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you:

Bible said when you accept jesus you get eternal life and you get the righteousness of God

God righteousness that comes in you makes you free and this sins list...... fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,..
..this sin . here will never be said by God that you did them, God will never remember them he will wash you and forget them forever

That is what Bible teaches and you don't want to accept it

GOD is saying if you refuse to accept jesus then your sins that he list there which you do will make you never be able to inherit God kingdom

That why I said you don't know bible rules

Dtruthspeaker:
Why would I not look for the sins God Said they have done so that I too can avoid them, if I don't want the things that happened to them, to happen to me?

Do you see how you are the one throwing yourselves into danmation?

It Written
"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

11 And such were some of you:

You can't look for their sin because God already said all have sinned so what us the need to look for the sin when you can become holy unto God when you accept jesus

Kingsnairaland:
The doctrine of the Trinity is a paradox. When Jesus said that the Father was greater than he,

he jesus was referring to his temporary position on earth.

Talking Points: The doctrine of the Trinity: There is one God in being who exists eternally in three distinct persons.

GOD as a man called jesus was limited because he was in a body that God prepared for jesus

That why he can even cry and shit and bleed and hunger and drink water and pray and do all sort of things that human a limited too

So it doesn't mean he is Not God when he do this things

May God open your eyes

Now let look at what the father says about who jesus is


Isaiah 9:6 ►
For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

New Living Translation
For a child is born to us, a son is given to us. The government will rest on his shoulders. And he will be called:
Wonderful Counselor,
Mighty God,
Everlasting Father,
Prince of Peace.

Father God calls jesus

Ever lasting Father

So are you saying that while Jesus was on earth, he was not the Almighty God or was not fully God?

Why does Isaiah 9:6 calls Jesus a "Mighty God" instead of "Almighty God"?

Kingsnairaland:
Yes because
GOD
Is three in one being

What made God to be God is that he is a
Father
Son
spirit

That is how he made us the same three in one

What made man to be man is we are
A soul
A body
A spirit

GOD as a son can die because bible said jesus is the express image of God
He is God in flesh and as that he can die once

And never die again

So you're saying that the son can die but the father cannot die? If yes, does that mean that the father is greater than the son?

Where does the Bible teach that man is divided into three seperate entity?
In Genesis 2:7, did God put soul in man?

Truthseeker10:
So are you saying that while Jesus was on earth, he was not the Almighty God or was not fully God?

Why does Isaiah 9:6 calls Jesus a "Mighty God" instead of "Almighty God"?

Revelation 1:8,
JESUS here declares,
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come
the Almighty

Jesus calls himself the ALMIGHTY

Jesus is fully God and man
Almighty God is the same as mighty God and the same as God

Unless you don't know English

There is only one God

And you can call him almighty or mighty or any top name title

Almighty and mighty is a title it is not a difference, there is NO difference

There is no small God.. There are only gods below God

We have only one God

GO back to schools learn English

Dtruthspeaker:
As I asked Kings, can you
point out the sins God held against these people?

That is because they were justified by their faith. The bible did not record all of their lives only shows that aspects that demonstrate their faith and some of their errors.
Noah for example although he was a man of faith but he got drunk and cursed one of his sons.

David had flaws, he committed adultery and also a murder, Sarah lied when she was asked if she laughed she denied, Moses got angry and couldn't fulfill the instruction of God exactly as God commanded, all these shows that no Saint were without errors, only Jesus christ is sinless.

Romans said all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

Steep:
That is because they were justified by their faith. The bible did not record all of their lives only shows that aspects that demonstrate their faith and some of their errors.
Noah for example although he was a man of faith but he got drunk and cursed one of his sons...

Did you see God accuse Noah of drunkenness and for cursing his son? Or did you not see God punish David for his sins till the point that David nearly died but the point of David was that God approved his "first ways"?

And even though God walked with Moses that He even was the One Who buried him, yet was Moses punished for his sin.

So in all these, we see that God punishes sin and their faith was that they lived a life wherein God did not accuse them of any wrongdoing which is the Justification..

It Written
"Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

And such are some of you:

Kingsnairaland:
You can't look for their sin because God already said all have sinned so what us the need to look for the sin when you can become holy unto God when you accept jesus

If God Said they have sinned and then the bible showed us how they sinned and the punishment that followed, it means we have been warned that what happened to Ananias shall happen to Sapphira. If you like chant you have accepted Jesus and you go and fornicate, It Written neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor... shall inherit the kingdom of God.

So, if you don't change, you are harming your own soul.

Kingsnairaland:
Bible said when you accept jesus you get eternal life and you get the righteousness of God..

And did Jesus not teach and feed the things that are righteousness?

Did He Say fornication and adultery is right? Or did He Say doing wickedness is right?

Or did you not hear Him Say "go and sin no more?"

When He said "go and sin no more" has he not already given you the righteousness?

And the 'go and sin no more" does that say that it is you who will take up the burden of refusing to sin?

All have sinned and the Bible and our living shows how everyone is sinning, so stop deceiving yourself unless if you do not mind going to dammation

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that the son can die but the father cannot die? If yes, does that mean that the father is greater than the son?

Where does the Bible teach that man is divided into three seperate entity?
In Genesis 2:7, did God put soul in man?

Below you can see where God can divide them
Seperately
God is boasting here that only him can divide them

Hebrews 4:12
"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of
soul and
spirit, of
Joints and marrow,.... Joint and marrow is actually the body because that where you see them inside.........


First Genesis did not reveal everything the things God did making man but he show man became soul body and has a spirit

So let look at other places God reveal it because God hides information in Bible so that you will research rather than been lazy

Jeremiah 38:16
Then King Zedekiah swore secretly to Jeremiah, “As the LORD lives, who made our souls, I will not put you to death or deliver you into the hand of these men who seek your life.”

Proves God made the soul but God made it in a unique way
God created soil so he moulded the soil clay to become our body

Then breath onto the soil the breath is our human spirit and immediately the breath touch that soil the soul was created

Genesis 2:7 says, "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul

So here God shows us the complete picture

◄ 1 Thessalonians 5:23 ►
May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit,
soul and
body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

New Living Translation
Now may the God of peace make you holy in every way, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ comes again.

Truthseeker10:
So you're saying that the son can die but the father cannot die? If yes, does that mean that the father is greater than the son?

Where does the Bible teach that man is divided into three seperate entity?
In Genesis 2:7, did God put soul in man?

Now how many times will I tell you that
God the father
God the son.
God the holy spirit

Are one

Now God the son became man
Because that was the plan of God to save man

Now when he became man he is limited because he's in human body so he can body say my father is greater than me.
Notice he can also say I thirst or I want to shit or I want to drink water etc

BUT Now notice after jesus went back to heaven what did Bible say

It says God the father the holy spirit all the
God head is now living inside JESUS

So you can not continue to be saying right now that the father is greater than jesus when actually the father is living inside jesus

Kingsnairaland:
What did you ask

Since you don't want to belive God when God said all have sinned

Did God through the bible not show us how they sinned? And do you deny that you do not see how they sin?

Kingsnairaland:
Below you can see where God can divide them
Seperately
God is boasting here that only him can divide them

Hebrews 4:12
"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of
soul and
spirit, of
Joints and marrow,.... Joint and marrow is actually the body because that where you see them inside.........


First Genesis did not reveal everything the things God did making man but he show man became soul body and has a spirit

So let look at other places God reveal it because God hides information in Bible so that you will research rather than been lazy

Jeremiah 38:16
Then King Zedekiah swore secretly to Jeremiah, “As the LORD lives, who made our souls, I will not put you to death or deliver you into the hand of these men who seek your life.”

Proves God made the soul but God made it in a unique way
God created soil so he moulded the soil clay to become our body

Then breath onto the soil the breath is our human spirit and immediately the breath touch that soil the soul was created

Genesis 2:7 says, "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul

So here God shows us the complete picture

◄ 1 Thessalonians 5:23 ►
May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit,
soul and
body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

New Living Translation
Now may the God of peace make you holy in every way, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ comes again.

1)Below is Hebrews 4:12.

King James Bible
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

In the above verse, does not the bible teach that God's word can divide joints and marrow, Are joints and marrow also seperate entities?

2) Below is mark 12:30

King James Bible
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

According to the verse above, how many parts did Jesus mention that man is divided into?

3)Below is Genesis 2:7.

King James Bible
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

In the verse above, does not the bible teach that it was the man that was made from dust that became a living soul? So where does the Bible teach that the soul has no body?

Kingsnairaland:
Now how many times will I tell you that
God the father
God the son.
God the holy spirit

Are one

Now God the son became man
Because that was the plan of God to save man

Now when he became man he is limited because he's in human body so he can body say my father is greater than me.
Notice he can also say I thirst or I want to shit or I want to drink water etc

BUT Now notice after jesus went back to heaven what did Bible say

It says God the father the holy spirit all the
God head is now living inside JESUS

So you can not continue to be saying right now that the father is greater than jesus when actually the father is living inside jesus

So if the father started living inside Jesus when Jesus went to heaven according to you, explain John 17:21 below.

King James Bible
21That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

Kingsnairaland:
Revelation 1:8,
JESUS here declares,
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come
the Almighty

Jesus calls himself the ALMIGHTY

Jesus is fully God and man
Almighty God is the same as mighty God and the same as God

Unless you don't know English

There is only one God

And you can call him almighty or mighty or any top name title

Almighty and mighty is a title it is not a difference, there is NO difference

There is no small God.. There are only gods below God

We have only one God

GO back to schools learn English

It seems you are the one that actually needs the schooling as evident in the screenshot below.

If Jesus was an Almighty God on earth, how come the father was greater than him? Can an Almighty God be greater than another Almighty God?

Dtruthspeaker:
And did Jesus not teach and feed the things that are righteousness?

Did He Say fornication and adultery is right? Or did He Say doing wickedness is right?

Or did you not hear Him Say "go and sin no more?"

When He said "go and sin no more" has he not already given you the righteousness?

And the 'go and sin no more" does that say that it is you who will take up the burden of refusing to sin?

All have sinned and the Bible and our living shows how everyone is sinning, so stop deceiving yourself unless if you do not mind going to dammation

What are you saying here

Don't you know that a child of God do not SIN

Truthseeker10:
1)Below is Hebrews 4:12.

King James Bible
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

In the above verse, does not the bible teach that God's word can divide joints and marrow, Are joints and marrow also seperate entities?

2) Below is mark 12:30

King James Bible
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

According to the verse above, how many parts did Jesus mention that man is divided into?

3)Below is Genesis 2:7.

King James Bible
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

In the verse above, does not the bible teach that it was the man that was made from dust that became a living soul? So where does the Bible teach that the soul has no body?

What is wrong with you I told you that joint and marrow means body... The reason Bible said joint and marrow is because in science that part is the hardest part to reach and solve in a human being body

So thar why God used joint and marrow

Kingsnairaland:
What is wrong with you I told you that joint and marrow means body... The reason Bible said joint and marrow is because in science that part is the hardest part to reach and solve in a human being body

So thar why God used joint and marrow

Oga is the bible not saying that joint and marrow can be divided just like spirit and soul In Hebrews 4:12?
So are you saying that the word of God also divides the body into seperate parts?

King James Bible
For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


2) Below is mark 12:30

King James Bible
And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

According to the verse above, how many parts did Jesus mention that man is divided into?

3)Below is Genesis 2:7.

King James Bible
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

In the verse above, does not the bible teach that it was the man that was made from dust that became a living soul? So where does the Bible teach that the soul has no body?

Kingsnairaland:
What are you saying here

Don't you know that a child of God do not SIN

Angels are children of God, yet Satan got them to sin and now they in hell waiting for their Day in God's Court.

Satan even went to try to get The Only Begotten Son of God to sin, and Christ resisted and rebuked him by His own self,so who are you to claim that you are incapable of sinning (which in fact you know you sin) not to talk of you doing the work of ensuring that Satan does not get you to sin?

And did you not see Peter resist the temptation to sin the sin of pride and arrogancy and enrichment unlike like the babalawos who call themselves pastors today do when they have done their magics start behaving like gods and expecting people to worship them?

You already know that exactly how you are the one who is to write an exam and pass with flying colours so also are you the one to resist and overcome the temptation of sinning, if not like the sons of God (angels) if you sin, you will be arrested and taken to God's Court for trial and Judgement..

Steep:
That is because they were justified by their faith. The bible did not record all of their lives only shows that aspects that demonstrate their faith and some of their errors.
Noah for example although he was a man of faith but he got drunk and cursed one of his sons.

David had flaws, he committed adultery and also a murder, Sarah lied when she was asked if she laughed she denied, Moses got angry and couldn't fulfill the instruction of God exactly as God commanded, all these shows that no Saint were without errors, only Jesus christ is sinless.

Romans said all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

And did Jesus not teach and feed the things that are righteousness?

Did He Say fornication and adultery is right? Or did He Say doing wikedness is right?

Or did you not hear Him Say "go and sin no more?"

When He said "go and sin no more" has he not already given you the righteousness?

And the 'go and sin no more" does that say that it is up to you to the sinning no more?

"All have sinned" is definitely because all our sinning and are loving it as we all see around us every day, so, that is clear

Truthseeker10:
It seems you are the one that actually needs the schooling as evident in the screenshot below.

If Jesus was an Almighty God on earth, how come the father was greater than him? Can an Almighty God be greater than another Almighty God?

Read this until you see that Jesus is almighty

Revelation 1:8,
JESUS here declares,
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come
the Almighty

Kingsnairaland:
Read this until you see that Jesus is almighty

Revelation 1:8,
JESUS here declares,
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come the Almighty

Did the Bible say Jesus is one talking in that verse?🤔

MaxInDHouse:
Did the Bible say Jesus is one talking in that verse?🤔

Yes or do you find it hard to read the Bible


Because the holy spirit of God told me he sent a strong delusion to you to believe lies about jesus since you refuse to believe the truth

And Paul said the same thing that really woke me up...
Paul said
That God will send strong delusion upon them, Because they did not love the truth, about who jesus is

I show you where jesus said he is the almighty

Yet you are still confused

Kingsnairaland:
Yes or do you find it hard to read the Bible


Because the holy spirit of God told me he sent a strong delusion to you to believe lies about jesus since you refuse to believe the truth

And Paul said the same thing that really woke me up...
Paul said
That God will send strong delusion upon them, Because they did not love the truth, about who jesus is

I show you where jesus said he is the almighty

Yet you are still confused

New King James Version
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Who was mean who died
Who is to come mean jesus that will come again

Read your bible since you want to see jesus calling himself the almighty

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The meaning of revelations book in Bible is actually mean

The revelation of jesus

It means God wants to reveal who jesus is

Every thing in revelation is about jesus

Just like every thing on the Bible is about jesus
So in revelation jesus is saying I am the almighty

Kingsnairaland:
Read this until you see that Jesus is almighty

Revelation 1:8,
JESUS here declares,
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, says the Lord God, who is and who was and who is to come
the Almighty

1)So where does the verse above mentions Jesus?
If Jesus is the Lord God Almighty in Revelation 1:8 in the verse that you quoted, who is the Lord God Almighty and who is the Lamb In the verse below.

Revelation 21:22.
King James Bible
And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.

2)Below is Revelation 21:6, 7.

King James Bible
6And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. 7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

Who is the person referred to as Alpha and Omega in the above verse?

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John. Revelation 1:1

Who is the God that gave Jesus the message?

Kingsnairaland:
New King James Version
“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”
Who was mean who died
Who is to come mean jesus that will come again
Read your bible since you want to see jesus calling himself the almighty
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