₦airaland Forum

LordIsaac:
Until they clock 50 ...Then the realization!

50 is too far sir. It begins at 28.

Love800:
There are many things dat can affect your career.
Your opposite sex is one of dem.

And who cares about measuring wealth with a certain individual!
I don't even know whether those guys you mentioned up there exist.
My life is me, myself and personality.

Enjoy life, and stop being too serious.
Trust me, you find the best woman for you. If you keep doing all that I mentioned on. You get a lady that will pretend to fit in to your standard.

I wasnt dick-measuring you with Bezos, that was SARCASM.

ibedun:
This is already the reality in western world. But their men are smarter than the useless men in Africa. Now that women are doing it all in the west their men have left them alone. We need the same in Africa to reduce the level of unnecessary child birth, unnecessary children, too many unnecessary mouths to feed, destruction of men’s life with unnecessary family responsibilities, early death and low life expectancies of men.

Have some self worth.
Low self-esteem does you no good. Smartness is not a function of race.

NaijaHelper1:
The premise of your response is already flawed. You're applying western standards to a poverty infested economy. The men have learnt that white collar jobs don't pay them given the amount of responsibilities they carry and have thus left it for women. Most men now will rather work online(or yehoo unfortunately) to make make sure they stay on top of responsibilities. That doesn't mean women are winning..it simply means women are occupying roles which require no additional effort other than a streamlined workflow and exact instructions which is where they excel.

Men and women have different definitions of status. A woman sees material enough to sustain her as fully independent. A man who has enough material to sustain himself only sees himself as poor. A woman will not date a man in the same economic bracket as her because she'll see him as lower which is a weird phenomenon if you ask me.

Women who are financially well off and therefore refuse marriage are nothing other than a symptom of a dysfunctional society. It's not sth to be applauded. It's an indicator of a fully mature and declining society. And it goes to prove my point. That women if left unsupervised will apply principles that only benefit them in a selfish disruption of the order of society.

Your strong patriarchal views does not surprise which is a symptom of the society you live in.
In Nigeria, I've seen levels to this- a man told me he would never let his wife go to school. Another told me his wife cannot be more educated than him. I told them my daughters just like my sisters and mother would get the very best available education they can. In the core north today, only a very very small percentage of girls finish secondary school as western education is belived to corrupt them and women are belived to be for only the bedroom and kitchen afterall.

Like I said, your views are a reflection of your society. What you however fail to understand is many societies have gone thru this phase. It was only in the 20th century that women in the U.S and U.K were granted the right to vote. Many couldn’t open bank accounts individually and hence couldn’t get mortgages or expand businesses until much later. These countries sat and changed their rules. Have you bothered to ask yourself why? Most of British law was passed on to colonial states at the time. Women never had the opportunity for a longtime but that has changed in many parts. Today, there is a growing number of young men who cannot compete in education or high paying job roles who have now resorted to vices while living off their parents even into thrir 30's. This cohort are increasingly being funneled into misogynistic narratives online.

goran3310:
This is true.
Rich, successful women have messed-up minds. And that’s irreversible.
Irreversible.
Nothing can be done about it.
The worst thing is that the men who advise and support them don’t sleep with them. Maybe I’m wrong, but they don’t seem satisfied. It’s probably not even a priority for them.

Like I said to the chap you quoted, you're a reflection of your society.

Economic or political power is always build upon. In a strongly patriarchal society, most women who breakthrough initially would need the support of entrenched powers (which would be men) but that changes quickly as numbers rise. That can be said of virtually any democratic societal change in almost every part of the world. Coming out of the civil rights movement in the U.S, most minorities began to rise- also on the back of entrenched powers at the time.

For centuries, women were hardly in the conversation in many domains of society despite being about 50% or more of the populace. If they weren't being educated then the question of how well they performed in school couldn't be asked.
That's rapidly changing as half of the population that were previously excluded are now back in and pushing hard. In a lot of fields, they're showing up and striving hard. Alot of men are increasingly being shocked by this but have to sit up. This is not us vs them. We need both parties working together to build a functional society.

jedisco:
Your strong patriarchal views does not surprise which is a symptom of the society you live in.
In Nigeria, I've seen levels to this- a man told me he would never let his wife go to school. Another told me his wife cannot be more educated than him. I told them my daughters just like my sisters and mother would get the very best available education they can. In the core north today, only a very very small percentage of girls finish secondary school as western education is belived to corrupt them and women are belived to be for only the bedroom and kitchen afterall.

Like I said, your views are a reflection of your society. What you however fail to understand is many societies have gone thru this phase. It was only in the 20th century that women in the U.S and U.K were granted the right to vote. Many couldn’t open bank accounts individually and hence couldn’t get mortgages or expand businesses until much later. These countries sat and changed their rules. Have you bothered to ask yourself why? Most of British law was passed on to colonial states at the time. Women never had the opportunity for a longtime but that has changed in many parts. Today, there is a growing number of young men who cannot compete in education or high paying job roles who have now resorted to vices while living off their parents even into thrir 30's. This cohort are increasingly being funneled into misogynistic narratives online.

You say that in a derogatory way like a patriarchal view is bad or something. Toxic feminism is an example of what I'm trying to say. The views women hold about men on whose shoulders they have stood to make headway. I don't think you understood the import of my comment either. Women ought to be educated. Anybody who thinks women shouldn't ought to be jailed for holding the economy back. The problem I have is putting too many women in leadership positions in a developing economy because of the effects of their mentality on disposable income. In Nigeria, the flow of cash is dependent on our communal living and is built around that. Women don't have that mentality. They spend mostly on themselves alone which results in hoarding and slows down the economy. You compare the western standards to Nigeria and yet fail to appreciate that both systems are radically different from each other. The west had created, nurtured and built an economy first before employing women to manage it. They didn't start by putting women in control when they were still building. That is because, whatever a woman can do economically speaking, there is a man that can do more aggressively. In a growing economy, aggressive is what you need. In a mature one, stability is what you need. I don't get what part of my comment you saw which suggested that women shouldn't be in business or sth.

jedisco:
Have some self worth.
Low self-esteem does you no good. Smartness is not a function of race.

Do you know me? You don’t. If you did you wouldn’t make this erroneous comment. Some people are born with unshakable high self esteem and I am one of them. I am speaking from Hawthorn, California (Los Angeles).
Collectively they are smarter than us and the evidence is everywhere you care to look.

ibedun:
Do you know me? You don’t. If you did you wouldn’t make this erroneous comment. Some people are born with unshakable high self esteem and I am one of them. I am speaking from Hawthorn, California (Los Angeles).
Collectively they are smarter than us and the evidence is everywhere you care to look.

All through human history, development has come in waves. Lots of countries who were previously undeveloped are forging ahead

Apportioning smartness to race is senseless. Thinking like that was what drove slavery and thinking like that forms part of the reason why African countries struggle

NaijaHelper1:
You say that in a derogatory way like a patriarchal view is bad or something. Toxic feminism is an example of what I'm trying to say. The views women hold about men on whose shoulders they have stood to make headway. I don't think you understood the import of my comment either. Women ought to be educated. Anybody who thinks women shouldn't ought to be jailed for holding the economy back. The problem I have is putting too many women in leadership positions in a developing economy because of the effects of their mentality on disposable income. In Nigeria, the flow of cash is dependent on our communal living and is built around that. Women don't have that mentality. They spend mostly on themselves alone which results in hoarding and slows down the economy. You compare the western standards to Nigeria and yet fail to appreciate that both systems are radically different from each other. The west had created, nurtured and built an economy first before employing women to manage it. They didn't start by putting women in control when they were still building. That is because, whatever a woman can do economically speaking, there is a man that can do more aggressively. In a growing economy, aggressive is what you need. In a mature one, stability is what you need. I don't get what part of my comment you saw which suggested that women shouldn't be in business or sth.

You make lots of generalist and misogynistic statements with absolutely no evidence to back it up. There are bad players on both ends- I'm not here to focus on them but rather what the plurality of society believes.

Jailed you say? Your thought process is same with someone who believes women should have no or at most little education. They'd give same excuse you give. You're all on same spectrum. By the way, the purpose of educating women is not just to improve the economy.

The underlying fact here is that you believe women are innately inferior. That drives your reasoning. I don't even know what you mean by communual living- cos women are at the fore front of that.
'Putting' people in positions of leadership again says alot about your thinking process and society. Leadership should be based on merit and not sex.

Read this your statement again and tell me how it makes sense: 'That is because, whatever a woman can do economically speaking, there is a man that can do more aggressively.'
Exchange women for Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba, Catholic, Anglican, Christian, Muslim, Black, White, Arab e.t.c and see how you sound. Thats a debased mindset.

A developing country needs the best hands available running the country irrespective or sex, religion or ethnicity. That's common sense.

jedisco:
You make lots of generalist and misogynistic statements with absolutely no evidence to back it up. There are bad players on both ends- I'm not here to focus on them but rather what the plurality of society believes.

Jailed you say? Your thought process is same with someone who believes women should have no or at most little education. They'd give same excuse you give. You're all on same spectrum. By the way, the purpose of educating women is not just to improve the economy.

The underlying fact here is that you believe women are innately inferior. That drives your reasoning. I don't even know what you mean by communual living- cos women are at the fore front of that.
'Putting' people in positions of leadership again says alot about your thinking process and society. Leadership should be based on merit and not sex.

Read this your statement again and tell me how it makes sense: 'That is because, whatever a woman can do economically speaking, there is a man that can do more aggressively.'
Exchange women for Igbo, Hausa, Yoruba, Catholic, Anglican, Christian, Muslim, Black, White, Arab e.t.c and see how you sound. Thats a debased mindset.

A developing country needs the best hands available running the country irrespective or sex, religion or ethnicity. That's common sense.

It's always the problems with Nigerians. They'd rather insult you than engage in a conversation. Please don't mention me again. I don't know what I said that is misogynistic. Don't quote me again please. This is supposed to be a conversation. Why do you people take pride in insulting people for no reason?

BigYash:
Yash and Buwest won't let men reason well,when they see ladies. Except for some few of us. I always tell guys to invest in yourself, rather than investing in woman. Modern day ladies don't have conscience and they can leave you at anytime,no matter what you invest in them. So I see no reason why wasting your resources in something that's not certain. As a guy don't invest what you can't afford to lose in a lady. Treat relationship like sport bet. Put in what you can afford to lose.

Great advice that gender especially this so called modern gen z ladies has really taught me a hard lesson love is the last thing in their hearts.

jedisco:
All through human history, development has come in waves. Lots of countries who were previously undeveloped are forging ahead

Apportioning smartness to race is senseless. Thinking like that was what drove slavery and thinking like that forms part of the reason why African countries struggle

You still got it wrong. I am talking specifically on this issue of relating to women of today. On this subject they are acting much smarter than African men at this time. Full stop 🛑

ibedun:
You still got it wrong. I am talking specifically on this issue of relating to women of today. On this subject they are acting much smarter than African men at this time. Full stop 🛑

I think this person you're quoting has comprehension issues. They're not worth all the ink you're using on them.

NaijaHelper1:
It's always the problems with Nigerians. They'd rather insult you than engage in a conversation. Please don't mention me again. I don't know what I said that is misogynistic. Don't quote me again please. This is supposed to be a conversation. Why do you people take pride in insulting people for no reason?

Didn't mean to insult but what you said was offensive. That wouldn't be tolerated about people's ethnicity or race

ibedun:
You still got it wrong. I am talking specifically on this issue of relating to women of today. On this subject they are acting much smarter than African men at this time. Full stop 🛑

Typical!
When called out for making absurd statements, folks begin a rigmarole

jedisco:
Didn't mean to insult but what you said was offensive. That wouldn't be tolerated about people's ethnicity or race

I don't know where you get your own metrics from. I have a business in Nigeria. I employ seven persons. Five out of them are women so I Interact with them on a daily basis and observe what they do with their compensation as well as their discussions. That forms my opinion. What forms yours? And you can't tell people what views they should have.

Hhh4444:
I wonder why most African men don’t want to come to this reality. All women are the same, there is no unicorn out there.

Once the sweet taste of an illusion has been had, fighting it with reason becomes an uphill battle.

Dizzyyish:
Once the sweet taste of an illusion has been had, fighting it with reason becomes an uphill battle.

Until the bubble bursts!

Sorry for my late response.

I really appreciate.

Olatara:
Enjoy life, and stop being too serious.
Trust me, you find the best woman for you. If you keep doing all that I mentioned on. You get a lady that will pretend to fit in to your standard.

I wasnt dick-measuring you with Bezos, that was SARCASM.