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The Queen Of Heaven by HerexG(m): 4:57pm On Jan 30, 2013
"Among all the women who have ever lived, the mother of Jesus Christ is the most celebrated, the most venerated...Among Roman Catholics, the Madonna is recognized not only as the Mother of God, but also, according to modern Popes, as the Queen of the Universe, Queen of Heaven , Seat of Wisdom, and even the Spouse of the Holy Spirit." -Time Magazine, "Handmaid or Feminist?", December 30, 1991, p. 62-66
Jeremiah 7:18 says, "... the women knead the dough, to make cakes for the queen of heaven ; and they pour out drink offerings to other gods, that they may provoke Me to anger!"
Is the Roman Catholic version of Mary truly the BIBLICAL Mary? Or is she really the Queen of Heaven from the Babylonian church of old that angered the Lord God in the book of Jeremiah? Out of all the proofs that expose the Vatican as the Pagan church, this has to be one of the most graphic. It’s almost as if they went back in time and copied this Pagan goddess exactly, so as to worship her as she desires them to. Old paintings and statues that have been found of this demonic goddess are exact duplicates of statues and paintings you will find today in Roman Catholic churches depicting Mary. Even the colors of her clothing match perfectly! It’s really quite shocking to say the least!
In Alexander Hislop's book, "The Two Babylons", He tracesthe Babylonian worship of the Queen of Heaven back to the days following the death of Nimrod. As the story goes, after Nimrod's death, his wife, Semiramis, was determined to retain her power and wealth as a leader of the people. So, she came up with the idea that her husbands death was for the salvation of all mankind. Of course we know who actually schooled her in that demonic fallacy. Hislop goes on to say that…
“Though the death of her husband has given a rude shockto her power, yet her resolution and unbounded ambitionwere in nowise checked. On the contrary, her ambition took a still higher flight. In life her husband had been honoured as a hero; in death she will have him worshipped as a god, yea, as the woman’s promised seed, “
Zero-ashta , ” who was destined to bruise the serpent's head, and in so doing, was to have his own heel bruised." The Two Babylons p. 58-59
Satan is a very cunning enemy. He always counterfeits prophetic truth in advance so as to make his lies appear holy. In fact, in Hislops book on page 76 he talks about Semiramis’s continued lies that got the people to believe her son was born miraculously. After they fell for that lie, she was then referred to as the “Virgin Mother” from thatday forward. Is this not a demonic twist on the prophesied birth of Christ? Truth be known, after Nimroddied, Semiramis committed adultery and had gotten pregnant. To prevent the people from killing her for proving she was “human” by her obvious pregnancy, she lied and told them her husband Nimrod had ascended to the Sun and is now called Baal. After she convinced them of this, she then stated he appeared to her and impregnated her without touching her with the rays of his glory.
She also claimed that the moon was a goddess that went through a 28 day cycle and ovulated when full. She further said that she descended from the moon in a giantmoon egg that fell into the Euphrates River. This was supposed to have happened during the first full moon after the spring equinox. This is where the Roman Catholic church gets their calculation for Easter. Ask any Pagan or Catholic priest when Easter arrives, and they will most assuredly tell you that after the first full moon of Spring, the following Sunday will be Easter.
The Babylonian people believed all the lies of Semiramis, and she was then crowned QUEEN OF HEAVEN. She later gave birth to her son and named him Tammuz. By the way, this so called “Queen of Heaven” was also called Iishtar. In today’s world, that word is pronounced, EASTER.
So, is the Mary of Rome the same as the Mary of Babylon? Truth is, Catholics the world over call Mary QUEEN OF HEAVEN do they not? When they pray the Rosary, as somedo on a daily basis, they must recite the prayer entitled, “Hail Holy Queen.”
From the earliest ages of the Catholic Church a Christian people, whether in time of triumph or more especially in time of crisis, has addressed prayers of petition and hymns of praise and veneration to the Queen of Heaven
. And never has that hope wavered which they placed in the Mother of the Divine King, Jesus Christ; nor has that faith ever failed by which we are taught that Mary , the Virgin Mother of God, reigns with a mother's solicitude over the entire world, just as she is crowned in heavenly blessedness with the glory of a Queen:

www.remnantofgod.org/evilqueen.htm

Re: The Queen Of Heaven by italo: 5:55pm On Jan 30, 2013
Stay there and be finding faults in what you know next to nothing about.

Everyday, hundreds of millions of people are communing with their mother - the mother of their God - and she's helping us to be closer to her Son, our Lord, and obtaining for us many graces and favours.

Continue wasting your time while we fulfill Mary's prophesy: "all generations shall call me blessed."

Continue chasing shadows while we "behold our Mother" as Jesus told John to.

Continue wasting energy while we listen to our Mother as she says "do whatever he tells you" - and look what miracle was worked after the servants at the wedding feast obeyed.

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by ooman(m): 6:01pm On Jan 30, 2013
italo: Stay there and be finding faults in what you know next to nothing about.

Everyday, hundreds of millions of people are communing with their mother - the mother of their God - and she's helping us to be closer to her Son, our Lord, and obtaining for us many graces and favours.

Continue wasting your time while we fulfill Mary's prophesy: "all generations shall call me blessed."

Continue chasing shadows while we "behold our Mother" as Jesus told John to.

Continue wasting energy while we listen to our Mother as she says "do whatever he tells you" - and look what miracle was worked after the servants at the wedding feast obeyed.

Are you serious? I can't believe all the stuff you just wrote. Do you really pray to that little mother of yours? Damn, you must be schizophrenic

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by HerexG(m): 6:08pm On Jan 30, 2013
italo: Stay there and be finding faults in what you know next to nothing about.

Everyday, hundreds of millions of people are communing with their mother - the mother of their God - and she's helping us to be closer to her Son, our Lord, and obtaining for us many graces and favours.

Continue wasting your time while we fulfill Mary's prophesy: "all generations shall call me blessed."

Continue chasing shadows while we "behold our Mother" as Jesus told John to.

Continue wasting energy while we listen to our Mother as she says "do whatever he tells you" - and look what miracle was worked after the servants at the wedding feast obeyed.

How long will thou child of God will be hold captive by the old Roman paganism in the disguise of Christianity, thou child of God open yours eyes and let not be deceived by this people. Even Jesus never regarded Mary as His mother in the time of His true calling, He called mary "woman".
My dear mary is not scriptural and never will it be.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by ijawkid(m): 6:18pm On Jan 30, 2013
italo: Stay there and be finding faults in what you know next to nothing about.

Everyday, hundreds of millions of people are communing with their mother - the mother of their God - and she's helping us to be closer to her Son, our Lord, and obtaining for us many graces and favours.

Continue wasting your time while we fulfill Mary's prophesy: "all generations shall call me blessed."

Continue chasing shadows while we "behold our Mother" as Jesus told John to.

Continue wasting energy while we listen to our Mother as she says "do whatever he tells you" - and look what miracle was worked after the servants at the wedding feast obeyed.

Which mother and whose mother??.....oboy you don start again o...........

Na because God no dey konk people head again na him make all this nonsense dey take place.....grin..........

Mary is obtaining nothing from Jesus for you and the rest catholics.........smh!!!!.........

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by italo: 11:50am On Jan 31, 2013
Keep wasting your energy while we keep praying.

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by HerexG(m): 12:12pm On Jan 31, 2013
italo: Keep wasting your energy while we keep praying.
Thou shalt have no other Gods before me. Commandment #1. For
there is no other name by which men are to be saved other than
Jesus christ. The worship of Mary is just a replacement name for the
many false godesses that were worshipped in Pagan cultures. mary
was no different than any human, a lost soul in need of a savior.

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Dogohson: 4:52pm On Jan 31, 2013
The god of this world has blinded their minds so that the light of the glorious gospel will not penetrate them. How I pray for the catholics to come to the knowledge of 1 Timothy 2 : 5. There is only one mediator between God and man, and that's Jesus Christ, not Mary or Angels nor dead saints as they claim. They also claim that Peter was the first pope, but Bible tells us that Jesus healed Peter's mother inlaw. Why doesn't ur popes marry. There are many other anomally activities that goes on in the catholic, they just don't seem or even want to embrace the truth. May God's will be done my people.

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Ubenedictus(m): 5:13pm On Jan 31, 2013
Dogohson: The god of this world has blinded their minds so that the light of the glorious gospel will not penetrate them. How I pray for the catholics to come to the knowledge of 1 Timothy 2 : 5. There is only one mediator between God and man, and that's Jesus Christ, not Mary or Angels nor dead saints as they claim. They also claim that Peter was the first pope, but Bible tells us that Jesus healed Peter's mother inlaw. Why doesn't ur popes marry. There are many other anomally activities that goes on in the catholic, they just don't seem or even want to embrace the truth. May God's will be done my people.
hahaha, u have a very shallow knowledge about catholics and i believe, its just stories u were told. If u want to know what d catholic church teaches u go to the catechism of d catholic church. The stuff is on d net, google is ur friend. Drop ur misconceptions and read what they teach directly from d right source instead of dem say dem say pipo do on nairaland.
God save us from scoffer's
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by truthislight: 7:22pm On Jan 31, 2013
Ubenedictus: hahaha, u have a very shallow knowledge about catholics and i believe, its just stories u were told. If u want to know what d catholic church teaches u go to the catechism of d catholic church. The stuff is on d net, google is ur friend. Drop ur misconceptions and read what they teach directly from d right source instead of dem say dem say pipo do on nairaland.
God save us from scoffer's

what did he say that is not the truth from the bible?

Between him and you that is defending RCC who is scoffing?

Read him again, but slowly this time:

Dogohson: The god of this world has blinded their minds so that the light of the glorious gospel will not penetrate them. How I pray for the catholics to come to the knowledge of 1 Timothy 2 : 5. There is only one mediator between God and man, and that's Jesus Christ, not Mary or Angels nor dead saints as they claim. They also claim that Peter was the first pope, but Bible tells us that Jesus healed Peter's mother inlaw. Why doesn't ur popes marry. There are many other anomally activities that goes on in the catholic, they just don't seem or even want to embrace the truth. May God's will be done my people.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Boomark(m): 9:03pm On Jan 31, 2013
I said they are not Christians but idol worshipers trying to spoil the good name of Christians.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Ubenedictus(m): 1:07am On Feb 01, 2013
I read him pretty well. And i advised him to learn about catholicism from d catechism of d cath church instead of 2nd had information. The same advise i have for u.
truthislight:
what did he say that is not the truth from the bible?
Between him and you that is defending RCC who is scoffing?
Read him again, but slowly this time:
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Ubenedictus(m): 1:09am On Feb 01, 2013
Boomark: I said they are not Christians but idol worshipers trying to spoil the good name of Christians.
and who made u judge over others? Since wen did u turn to God?

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Ubenedictus(m): 1:11am On Feb 01, 2013
HerexG :

Thou shalt have no other Gods before me. Commandment #1. For
there is no other name by which men are to be saved other than
Jesus christ. The worship of Mary is just a replacement name for the
many false godesses that were worshipped in Pagan cultures. mary
was no different than any human, a lost soul in need of a savior.
why not produce d catholic teaching dat says "adore mary", if u can produce dat den will we have sumtin to talk abt.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Ubenedictus(m): 1:12am On Feb 01, 2013
ijawkid:

Which mother and whose mother??.....oboy you don start again o...........

Na because God no dey konk people head again na him make all this nonsense dey take place.....grin..........

Mary is obtaining nothing from Jesus for you and the rest catholics.........smh!!!!.........
hahaha, ur own delusion

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Ubenedictus(m): 1:14am On Feb 01, 2013
HerexG :


How long will thou child of God will be hold captive by the old Roman paganism in the disguise of Christianity, thou child of God open yours eyes and let not be deceived by this people. Even Jesus never regarded Mary as His mother in the time of His true calling, He called mary "woman".
My dear mary is not scriptural and never will it be.
on d bolded, are u for real? If mary isnt scriptural den wu born Jesus, ur girlfriend abi?

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Ubenedictus(m): 1:29am On Feb 01, 2013
This is like saying becos d king of babylon was called "king of kings" so those who praise Jesus as king of kings are worshipping d king of babylon. Dis is bad logic.
HerexG :

Zero-ashta , ” who was destined to bruise the serpent's head, and in so doing, was to have his own heel bruised." The Two Babylons p. 58-59
Satan is a very cunning enemy. He always counterfeits prophetic truth in advance so as to make his lies appear holy. In fact, in Hislops book on page 76 he talks about Semiramis’s continued lies that got the people to believe her son was born miraculously. After they fell for that lie, she was then referred to as the “Virgin Mother” from thatday forward. Is this not a demonic twist on the prophesied birth of Christ? Truth be known, after Nimroddied, Semiramis committed adultery and had gotten pregnant. To prevent the people from killing her for proving she was “human” by her obvious pregnancy, she lied and told them her husband Nimrod had ascended to the Sun and is now called Baal. After she convinced them of this, she then stated he appeared to her and impregnated her without touching her with the rays of his glory.
She also claimed that the moon was a goddess that went through a 28 day cycle and ovulated when full. She further said that she descended from the moon in a giantmoon egg that fell into the Euphrates River. This was supposed to have happened during the first full moon after the spring equinox. This is where the Roman Catholic church gets their calculation for Easter. Ask any Pagan or Catholic priest when Easter arrives, and they will most assuredly tell you that after the first full moon of Spring, the following Sunday will be Easter.
this is very silly, d easter is 3 day after d jewish passover, it is usually pushed so it falls on a sunday. It is not calculated by nimrod but on d historic death and ressurection of christ.
The Babylonian people believed all the lies of Semiramis, and she was then crowned QUEEN OF HEAVEN. She later gave birth to her son and named him Tammuz. By the way, this so called “Queen of Heaven” was also called Iishtar. In today’s world, that word is pronounced, EASTER.
So, is the Mary of Rome the same as the Mary of Babylon? Truth is, Catholics the world over call Mary QUEEN OF HEAVEN do they not? When they pray the Rosary, as somedo on a daily basis, they must recite the prayer entitled, “Hail Holy Queen.”
From the earliest ages of the Catholic Church a Christian people, whether in time of triumph or more especially in time of crisis, has addressed prayers of petition and hymns of praise and veneration to the Queen of Heaven
. And never has that hope wavered which they placed in the Mother of the Divine King, Jesus Christ; nor has that faith ever failed by which we are taught that Mary , the Virgin Mother of God, reigns with a mother's solicitude over the entire world, just as she is crowned in heavenly blessedness with the glory of a Queen:
www.remnantofgod.org/evilqueen.htm
lol, d article ends d same way it started using defective logic, so becos catholic call mary queen, dat makes her d godess of babylonian myth.
Bad story telling skills.

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by HerexG(m): 5:33am On Feb 01, 2013
Ubenedictus: why not produce d catholic teaching dat says "adore mary", if u can produce dat den will we have sumtin to talk abt.

(1) The Catholic rosary: Praying with the catholic rosary their is a point they get to they mary to pray or intercede for them. This is going against 1 Tim 2:5.
(2) They have so many chants honoring her and truly all is due to God and His son, Christ Himself never honored her, He called her woman and not mother.

(3) Mary is just a mortal and no different from other people of her time, she was a vessel God used , remember our God can use anybody at anytime.

(4) If we should honore anybody besides Christ which is impossible, it should be the great apostle, who fought strongly at the detriment of their lives to see the good news prevailed over the world.

(5) Funny enough they put on her image and enough worship her image in their cathedrals.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by HerexG(m): 5:40am On Feb 01, 2013
@Ubenedictus don't be deceived, the resurrection of Christ never fall at that period they call Easter, the means i gave is the actual way the calculate Easter ask your priest. If it is patterning to passover then my Christian Jewish friend should be regarding Easter too. Truly i say unto you, we were given diluted Christianity over here.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by italo: 8:42am On Feb 01, 2013
So it is okay for you to honour your who is unworthy, and for musicians to sing in honour of filthy and evil politicians... It is okay for you to have pictures of your family members in your home in order to remember them and ask them to pray for you...

...But when Catholics do all these to Mary and the Saints, who are our family members, you call it worship.

You just choose to spoil the name of the Church.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Bidemi1997(f): 8:53am On Feb 01, 2013
I pray to the Most High God through His Son Christ (who is wrongly called iesous/Jesus) our Redeemer & Saviour that people's eyes will
beginning to open to all these religions of this world.
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev 18:4.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by HerexG(m): 9:35am On Feb 01, 2013
Bidemi1997: I pray to the Most High God through His Son Christ (who is wrongly called iesous/Jesus) our Redeemer & Saviour that people's eyes will
beginning to open to all these religions of this world.
"Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues." Rev 18:4.

You are right my brother, His real name is Yahushua ! The Israelites don't have the letter J in their alphabet. And @italo not trying to spoil any church but trying make the truth and light made known to all, everything i'm writing here is something you can reason and get your confirmation except you decided not to.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Pvictor10(m): 10:42am On Feb 01, 2013
I am the way, the truth, and Life. No man comes unto the father except by me.
Jesus is not part of d many ways 2 seek God, but the ONLY WAY. MARY, OUT OF IT!
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by italo: 1:53pm On Feb 01, 2013
Pvictor10: I am the way, the truth, and Life. No man comes unto the father except by me.
Jesus is not part of d many ways 2 seek God, but the ONLY WAY. MARY, OUT OF IT!

There are many ways to get to Jesus.

One very efficacious way is going through the same Mother through whom he came to us.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by ichuka(m): 4:05pm On Feb 01, 2013
italo:

There are many ways to get to Jesus.

One very efficacious way is going through the same Mother through whom he came to us.
Lol
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by truthislight: 10:06pm On Feb 01, 2013
Ubenedictus: @boomark
and who made u judge over others?

the bible Judges you.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Nobody: 10:32pm On Feb 01, 2013
italo: So it is okay for you to honour your who is unworthy, and for musicians to sing in honour of filthy and evil politicians... It is okay for you to have pictures of your family members in your home in order to remember them and ask them to pray for you...

...But when Catholics do all these to Mary and the Saints, who are our family members, you call it worship.

You just choose to spoil the name of the Church.
we put pictures of loved ones on our walls but dont bow down and worship them like u do to ur mary picture and statues.once a practice is not traceable 2 jesus christ,the author and finisher of the christian faith,then it is not christian.

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Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Lovethywilbedon: 1:00am On Feb 02, 2013
HerexG :


(1) The Catholic rosary: Praying with the catholic rosary their is a point they get to they mary to pray or intercede for them. This is going against 1 Tim 2:5.
(2) They have so many chants honoring her and truly all is due to God and His son, Christ Himself never honored her, He called her woman and not mother.

(3) Mary is just a mortal and no different from other people of her time, she was a vessel God used , remember our God can use anybody at anytime.

(4) If we should honore anybody besides Christ which is impossible, it should be the great apostle, who fought strongly at the detriment of their lives to see the good news prevailed over the world.

(5) Funny enough they put on her image and enough worship her image in their cathedrals.
HerexG :


You are right my brother, His real name is Yahushua ! The Israelites don't have the letter J in their alphabet. And @italo not trying to spoil any church but trying make the truth and light made known to all, everything i'm writing here is something you can reason and get your confirmation except you decided not to.
HerexG :


(1) The Catholic rosary: Praying with the catholic rosary their is a point they get to they mary to pray or intercede for them. This is going against 1 Tim 2:5.
(2) They have so many chants honoring her and truly all is due to God and His son, Christ Himself never honored her, He called her woman and not mother.

(3) Mary is just a mortal and no different from other people of her time, she was a vessel God used , remember our God can use anybody at anytime.

(4) If we should honore anybody besides Christ which is impossible, it should be the great apostle, who fought strongly at the detriment of their lives to see the good news prevailed over the world.

(5) Funny enough they put on her image and enough worship her image in their cathedrals.
Honestly you are a totaly misinformed confused being. First you started this thread with a type of BLASPHAMOUS comparism (of the catholic church with peganism) use in the 16th century by your fathers in faith to misguide ILLITRATES who can't read and write. Wake up Slumber, we are in the 21st Century when we have something like the internet. It is now easy to know the true teachings of the Catholic Church by visiting any of our websites. Even a SINCERE Protestant knows that what you copied and pasted here is nothing but a "CRAP", I mean SOLID WASTE FROM THE BOWELS. You also went ahead to BLASPHAME that Christ didn't honor Mary. Your are implying that Christ went through his life violating the Forth Commandment. Know this today that Christ honoured Mary more than any man or angel could do, when He obayed and granted her reques at the wedding in cana, even though according to Christ it is not yet the time appointed by his Father. It is the same as saying that Christ went agains Gods time, plan or will just to fulfil His mothers request. That is a "GRAET HONOUR" to Mary. Do you think Christ would have granted that request if it was made by Peter. Do you think He will grant a request against Gods plan if it was made by Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or even an Angel. But He granted it to His mother. THAT'S "GREAT HOUNOUR". You said that all honour belongs to God. That is correct. But you don't know that you owe honour to a uniformed Nigerian policeman. That is one problem with wrong and literal interpretation of the bible. So you don't know that you owe honour to Simple Object like the Nigerian Flag, the Nigerian Coat of Arm, and the little N20 note. If you think the apostle deserve any houour for what they went through, why shouldn't a greater honour be given to the mother of my Redeemer, The Mother of my LORD, I mean THE MOTHER OF my GOD. Your level of IMATURITY IN CHRISTIAN FAITH made you think that the apostles suffered more than Mary. Let me inform you today that what Mary suffered in her Heart and in her Soul is far greater than what any Apostle suffered in the flesh. You make me laugh in your display of childishness with the names of Christ. It is just like saying that the real name of Peter is Cephas, or that the real name of John is Jean, or that the real name of Mary is Maria. Are you not refering to the same persons with different languages?. Greek and latin are not like english which doesn't trasnlate Names of People. It is obvious from the contents of you posts that you know NOTHING about the Church you are attacking and too IMATURE to understand the LOGICAL implication of you comments.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by Nobody: 1:01am On Feb 02, 2013
italo:

There are many ways to get to Jesus.

One very efficacious way is going through the same Mother through whom he came to us.

They is ONE way to GOD and that is through Jesus Christ, as least get your facts right !
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by italo: 6:17am On Feb 02, 2013
frosbel:
They is ONE way to GOD and that is through Jesus Christ, as least get your facts right !

italo:
There are many ways to get to Jesus.

One very efficacious way is going through the same Mother through whom he came to us.
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by italo: 6:19am On Feb 02, 2013
Segeggs: we put pictures of loved ones on our walls but dont bow down and worship them like u do to ur mary picture and statues.once a practice is not traceable 2 jesus christ,the author and finisher of the christian faith,then it is not christian.

So did Jesus put pictures of loved ones on his wall as you do?
Re: The Queen Of Heaven by HerexG(m): 6:20am On Feb 02, 2013
Lovethywilbedon: Honestly you are a totaly misinformed confused being. First you started this thread with a type of BLASPHAMOUS comparism (of the catholic church with peganism) use in the 16th century by your fathers in faith to misguide ILLITRATES who can't read and write. Wake up Slumber, we are in the 21st Century when we have something like the internet. It is now easy to know the true teachings of the Catholic Church by visiting any of our websites. Even a SINCERE Protestant knows that what you copied and pasted here is nothing but a "CRAP", I mean SOLID WASTE FROM THE BOWELS. You also went ahead to BLASPHAME that Christ didn't honor Mary. Your are implying that Christ went through his life violating the Forth Commandment. Know this today that Christ honoured Mary more than any man or angel could do, when He obayed and granted her reques at the wedding in cana, even though according to Christ it is not yet the time appointed by his Father. It is the same as saying that Christ went agains Gods time, plan or will just to fulfil His mothers request. That is a "GRAET HONOUR" to Mary. Do you think Christ would have granted that request if it was made by Peter. Do you think He will grant a request against Gods plan if it was made by Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or even an Angel. But He granted it to His mother. THAT'S "GREAT HOUNOUR". You said that all honour belongs to God. That is correct. But you don't know that you owe honour to a uniformed Nigerian policeman. That is one problem with wrong and literal interpretation of the bible. So you don't know that you owe honour to Simple Object like the Nigerian Flag, the Nigerian Coat of Arm, and the little N20 note. If you think the apostle deserve any houour for what they went through, why shouldn't a greater honour be given to the mother of my Redeemer, The Mother of my LORD, I mean THE MOTHER OF my GOD. Your level of IMATURITY IN CHRISTIAN FAITH made you think that the apostles suffered more than Mary. Let me inform you today that what Mary suffered in her Heart and in her Soul is far greater than what any Apostle suffered in the flesh. You make me laugh in your display of childishness with the names of Christ. It is just like saying that the real name of Peter is Cephas, or that the real name of John is Jean, or that the real name of Mary is Maria. Are you not refering to the same persons with different languages?. Greek and latin are not like english which doesn't trasnlate Names of People. It is obvious from the contents of you posts that you know NOTHING about the Church you are attacking and too IMATURE to understand the LOGICAL implication of you comments.

Take it easy man, you don't have to insult anybody here, this is an highly intelligible topic for sounds minds.
(1) First you said you compared my father with Catholic church, before i go on who told you my 16th century fathers are misguided illiterate, they have their own culture and gods they worship as the Romans also, or is it because they don't speak English as we all do or what, they have shelters, never begged your father for food, they understood the science farming and hunting, they even developed standard languages, delete the evil pictures the western people painted Africa from your memory . Should incase you don't know it, civilisation did'nt moved across the world in just one day, it started gradually, where was your catholic people when the cradle of civilisation started in Egypt (Africa).
(2) Take or leave it the Romans never dropped all their pegan worship, they re branded it with Christianity. Make a thorough research of most Catholic celebration dates like the easter and others, they all derived from the days they worship their gods back then, google is your friend.
(3) Christ honored and respected His earthly mother as any child would, but when the time for the real thing came, He kept her in her rightful position.
He never give any instruction for us to worship and honor her, i wonder where that thought came from.
(4) Christ changed Cephas name to Peter meaning upon this rock i will build my church, Christ real Jewish name is Yahushua, His name will never be translated or re phrased . Ponder on this zeus and Jesus
(5) Christ will surely grant any request as long as it is aligned with the perfect will of His Father, so it was'nt because of Mary, He even grants my request if you care to know.
(6) After Christ ascended did you hear about Mary again, this is to show you that she has concluded the assignment God wanted her to do. All glory honor belongs to God and His son, concerning honoring objects which patterns to government Christ said it give to ceaser what is due to him. The best i can do is to be patriotic to my country and people

Show some love and respect man.

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