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iconize:
So narrative length is now the only determinant of a novel? You're the ignoramus here.

Define a novel for us.

The link says "novels by Chinua Achebe.

The link is as ignorant as you. I am sure uneducated folks like you think any narrative is a novel.

FYI, there are categories of narratives. We have Novels, Novellas, Short Stories, Memoirs, Biographies, Autobiographies, etc.

Only an ignorant person does not know that length matters when categorizing prose or narratives.

EroZA:
[s]My man that fabrication has been dismissed ,that man is one of those who use Mandela name to build their own image,if this man lies were true,why should Nigeria as country take the credit because it sounds to me that this was just a personal comradeship between the two....every step that Mandela took before retiring from politics is written in his biography, claims by that minister are not there...you people are masters of fabrications and lies...president Kenneth kaunda and julias nyerere are the heroes of our struggle...finish n klaar[/s]

Sentimental trash!

You're just blabbing like one addled dunce.

Show us where Mandela's family or associates debunked all Amaechi said.

iconize:
You're saying crap!

Let's go back to the basis of our discourse, which is; your claim that south Africa is bigger than Nigeria in terms of literature.

When you said that were you considering to offer Soyinka a south African citizenship?

For the fact that you cannot argue that Achebe is more successful than Soyinka (a fellow African) so how can you argue that Achebe is the most successful African writer?

hifaif:
The link is as ignorant as you. I am sure uneducated folks like you think any narrative is a novel.

FYI, there are categories of narratives. We have Novels, Novellas, Short Stories, Memoirs, Biographies, Autobiographies, etc.

Only an ignorant person does not know that length matters when categorizing prose or narratives.

You've been cut to size now you're throwing silly tantrums.

I ask again; is narrative length the only determinant of a novel?

By the way, there are over 7 novels mentioned in that link. If you say Chike and river is not a novel, we're still left with probably 6 other novels.

iconize:
You've been cut to size now you're throwing silly tantrums.

I ask again; is narrative length the only determinant of a novel?

By the way, there are over 7 novels mentioned in that link. If you say Chike and river is not a novel, we're still left with probably 6 other novels.

LOL. I have been the one dealing.with you.

Apart from being an ignoramus in Literature, I think you are also not good at figures. Go back to your own link and count again. Without Chike and The River, there are just 5 novels.

hifaif:
[s]For the fact that you cannot argue that Achebe is more successful than Soyinka (a fellow African) so how can you argue that Achebe is the most successful African writer?[/s]

Stop clutching at straws.

The prime discourse is that; according to one Limpopo forest dweller, south Africa is bigger than Nigeria in terms of Literature. The forest dweller concluded using Nobel prize to equate ones success in literature.

The comparison is not Soyinka and Achebe but Nigeria and south Africa.

By the way, have you accepted that Nwapa is the mother of modern African literature?

iconize:
Stop clutching at straws.

The prime discourse is that; according to one Limpopo forest dweller, south Africa is bigger than Nigeria in terms of Literature. The forest dweller concluded using Nobel prize to equate ones success in literature.

The comparison is not Soyinka and Achebe but Nigeria and south Africa.

By the way, have you accepted that Nwapa is the mother of modern African literature?

You said I should mention one African writer more successful than Achebe.

If you want me to start arguing with you, you should rather ask me to tell you one non-Nigerian writer more successful than Achebe.

hifaif:
LOL. I have been the one dealing.with you.

Apart from being an ignoramus in Literature, I think you are also not good at figures. Go back to your own link and count again. Without Chike and The River, there are just 5 novels.

Dealing with me by indirectly concluding that narrative length is the only determinant of a novel?

Such a m_oron!

He said Chike and the river is not a novel even when everybody sees it as a novel

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chike_and_the_River

Now read and tell us genre of Chike and the river.

Lol...my man since I joined this forum,one thing I learnt about you guys is you live in the world of wishful thinking and dreams....many people have used Mandela s name to boost their image,your amaechi is one of them,Mandela family does not have time to respond to attention seekers like that fellow...

iconize:
Sentimental trash!

You're just blabbing like one addled dunce.

Show us where Mandela's family or associates debunked all Amaechi said.

iconize:
Dealing with me by indirectly concluding that narrative length is the only determinant of a novel?

Such a m_oron!

He said Chike and the river is not a novel even when everybody sees it as a novel

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chike_and_the_River

Now read and tell us genre of Chike and the river.

Chike and The River is a short fiction.

Guy, go and educate yourself by browsing for the difference between a novel, a novella and a short story. I shouldn't be teaching you all this. Google is your friend.

hifaif:
You said I should mention one African writer more successful than Achebe.

If you want me to start arguing with you, you should rather ask me to tell you one non-Nigerian writer more successful than Achebe.

I'll pummel you today!

These are your failures;

1) He disproves that Nwapa isn't the mother of modern African literature yet he can't counter me with facts.

2) He said Chike and the river is not a novel even when the world sees it as a novel.

3) He sees narrative length as the only determinant of a novel.

hifaif:
Chike and The River is a short fiction.

Guy, go and educate yourself by browsing for the difference between a novel, a novella and a short story. I shouldn't be teaching you all this. Google is your friend.

Whooo!

An author wrote a piece of art work and called it a novel, even the entire world sees it as a novel.

And one irrelevant forest dweller is saying otherwise.

iconize:
I'll pummel you today!

These are your failures;

1) He disproves that Nwapa isn't the mother of modern African literature yet he can't counter me with facts.

2) He said Chike and the river is not a novel even when the world sees it as a novel.

3) He sees narrative length as the only determinant of a novel.

'The world' or Wikipedia? Which?

EroZA:
Lol...my man since I joined this forum,one thing I learnt about you guys is you live in the world of wishful thinking and dreams....many people have used Mandela s name to boost their image,your amaechi is one of them,Mandela family does not have time to respond to attention seekers like that fellow...

I'm coming for you but allow me cut this forest dweller to size, first.

iconize:
Whooo!

An author wrote a piece of art work and called it a novel, even the entire world sees it as a novel.

And one irrelevant forest dweller is saying otherwise.

He didn't see it as a novel. Wikipedia categorized it as such.

hifaif:
'The world' or Wikipedia? Which?

I listed 3 of your failures and you could only pick one?

Now show/tell us who doesn't see it as a novel except your moronic self.

hifaif:
He didn't see it as a novel. Wikipedia categorized it as such.

What you rambling about?

If he didn't consider it a novel would Wikipedia categorize it as a novel?

Just show us one sane person who doesn't see it as a novel.

Hifafi, tell us who the world sees as the mother of modern African Literature if not Nwapa.

iconize:
I listed 3 of your failures and you could only pick one?

Now show/tell us who doesn't see it as a novel except your moronic self.

Everyone who knows Literature would know that Chike and The River is not a novel.

iconize:
Hifafi, tell us who the world sees as the mother of modern African Literature if not Nwapa.

The world does not regard anyone as the mother of modern African literature.

iconize:
What you rambling about?

If he didn't consider it a novel would Wikipedia categorize it as a novel?

Just show us one sane person who doesn't see it as a novel.

Seems you also don't know how Wikipedia works. Maybe you ought to ask Seun who once accused Wikipedia of misinformation concerning Nairaland.

hifaif:
Everyone who knows Literature would know that Chike and The River is not a novel.

Your suffering has just began.

This is the definition of a novel, from Wikipedia;
A novel is a long narrative, normally in prose, which describes fictional characters and events, usually in the form of a sequential story.

But according to haifia(sic), a narrative can be called a novel only when it's lengthy.

By the way, Chike and the river has 66pages not 17 as you said.

hifaif:
Seems you also don't know how Wikipedia works. Maybe you ought to ask Seun who once accused Wikipedia of misinformation concerning Nairaland.

Okay!

Now show us one sane person who doesn't see Chike and the river as novel.

iconize:
Your suffering has just began.

This is the definition of a novel, from Wikipedia;
A novel is a long narrative, normally in prose, which describes fictional characters and events, usually in the form of a sequential story.

But according to haifia(sic), a narrative can be called a novel only when it's lengthy.

By the way, Chike and the river has 66pages not 17 as you said.

Are you blind? I said it is not even up to 70 pages.

iconize:
Okay!

Now show us one sane person who doesn't see Chike and the river as novel.

You picked a portion. Why don't you read the whole information under NOVEL.

hifaif:
The world does not regard anyone as the mother of modern African literature.

Says who?

She was the forerunner of modern African women writers. Does that not make her the feminine pioneer of modern African literature?

hifaif:
Are you blind? I said it is not even up to 70 pages.

Stop trembling, the whites are not coming.

hifaif:
You picked a portion. Why don't you read the whole information under NOVEL.

Did you indirectly say that narrative length is the only determinant of a novel or not?

I've showed you the basis of a novel and you're still huffing and puffing.

This is the definition of a novel, from Wikipedia;
A novel is a long narrative, normally in prose, which describes fictional characters and events, usually in the form of a sequential story.

But according to haifia(sic), a narrative can be called a novel only when it's lengthy.

EroZA:
My man that fabrication has been dismissed ,that man is one of those who use Mandela name to build their own image,if this man lies were true,why should Nigeria as country take the credit because it sounds to me that this was just a personal comradeship between the two....every step that Mandela took before retiring from politics is written in his biography, claims by that minister are not there...you people are masters of fabrications and lies...president Kenneth kaunda and julias nyerere are the heroes of our struggle...finish n klaar

Yebo yes!!

Growing up I remember the people of my nation crying, fighting & singing songs about LUSAKA.

Many South Africans today have much respect & gratitude for Zambia (Lusaka), because they had our back during our days of sorrow. One hundred percent. Two of my uncles & many others who vowed to fight back the system of the time underwent training in Lusaka...nowhere else.

Popular song during that time..."Siyaya weMkhonto wesizwe eLusaka". Translation- The Spear of the nation is going to Lusaka. QHA! Makes me wanna cry when I think about it. The young & old marching the dusty streets of our townships feeling hopeless. Sigh.

We heard nothing about any of these other countries that are now claiming to have helped us the most. Bah humbug!!

Lol...meet me @ High point ,Abuja street ,hilbrow JHB

iconize:
I'm coming for you but allow me cut this forest dweller to size, first.

Hiaifi, just show/tell us one sane person who doesn't see C.A.R as a novel.