TV01:

Are you going to answer any of the questions or actually quote any scripture? Or are you just going to spew your hallucinatory interpretations of the gospel

Your claim - "Paul championed slavery and the slavery of women to men"





Shirley07, it's clear that like CarefreeWannabe, you haven't actually read and understood the bible in context for yourself - even literally, let alone with deep spiritual insight. You probably learnt from the same "theologian"

Look, here's an example of Paul telling husbands to make slaves of their wives - and treat them harshly - sacrificing them even
Ephesians 5:25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her

When Paul gave that exhortation it was ground-breaking. Over 2'000 years ago, women in most civilisations/communities were considered chattel. Property. Yes, in a way as slaves. Paul via the gospel exhorted Christians to something higher, honouring and loving women as equals.

Even today, in many civilisations and communities this is still not the case. And for those were it is or it is more so, guess what? They have Judeo-Christian foundations. And they are probably the same ones that allow the freedon that spawned your virulant feminism .

When people like yourself go around calling Paul a bigot and a champion of slavery generally and husband-wife slavery in particular you do a grave injustice and great damage to those that take this as truth - not just in the present, but for all eternity. And as this aspect of your theology is twisted, so your whole understanding is perverted.

I rarely plead with people, but Shirley07, you need to seek help - of the spiritual kind. You are bound by a very strong spirit of delusion.

God be with us all.


TV

TV01:

I think you misunderstood my post.

Carefrewannabe and Shirley07, both believe that Christianity condones slavery. Shirley07 additionally claims that Paul sees the husband/wife relationship as akin to a slave/master one.

I solidly refuted both errors !

As to comparing Africa 2'000 years ago, I actually compared the Christian exhortatio of 2'000 years ago to most non-Judeo-Christian based countries of this present day. And am bold to declare that many of those countries, even now, do not match up to that ehortation.

Am I clear, or are you of a different opinion?


TV

^{...or perhaps I misunderstood you?}

pickabeau1:
So why bring his wife into the debate...

Shirley07:

His wife is a woman. Or is she not?

pickabeau1:


ok.... whats the relevance of that to this debate
and before u get carried away...the like u got are for that statement and not for the diatribe on Paul legitimising slavery bit

carefreewannabe:


self-deception

TV01:

Gif Meister

Please let us know when you have some insight to share.


TV

Shirley07:
Of what use is it when Paul constantly contradicts not only himself but Christ? He abolished the law when it comes to salvation and said Christ has freed us from all bondage but hadd no issues bounding women to one. That's basically bullshit and hypocrisy!

Shirley07:
If Paul actually knows the true meaning of love, he will know that love comes with submission and that every christians is required to love one another and humble himself/herself like little children, like Christ taught us.

Shirley07:
And all those history you wrote up there are just meaningless bullshit because everyone and his dog knows that without feminism, women emancipation wouldn't have taken place. Female license to education, political right and jobs in the society, liberation from male dominance and justice for women rape/sexual assault e.t.c wouldn't have even surface.

Shirley07:
I'm sure Christ did his best in the liberation of women but not Paul. Infact, the Jews state that as one of the reason why Christ was hated, apart from him claming to be the son of God.

Shirley07:
The truth is Paul championed women slavery and slavery as whole. If he didn't, why will he say women salvation is only by children bearing stating reason that Eve was the one that got deceived and became the sinner? So, Adam wasn't deceived?

Shirley07:
Not to forget the part where he was addressing christian slave masters. A christian shouldn't even have a slave in the first place but no, our dear Paul didn't think so.

Shirley07:

And I don't blame you because if our fore fathers didn't fight for their freedom and you were still a slave, feeding on crumbles, you won't have the mouth to be spitting out gibberish.

Shirley07:
Whatever, I'm not stopping you from imbibing Paul's doctrine as long as you don't come here spouting rubbish why women should submit when my Christ said two shall becomes one and he's in the best authority to state such because he knows what it means to be one with God and the Holy Spirit.

Shirley07:
And before coming here with your nonsense, practise what you preach with your wife first.

pickabeau1:
TV01

Shirley07:
I said Paul championed slavery, which is the truth.

Shirley07:

However, Christ never taught us such and a true christian has christ as his/her role model and his words becomes his/her watchwards.

TV01:

No, it's not the truth. It's the mindless cant of feminists and rebellious women


"Role model" - More gifs please...

You don't have to be a Christian to have Christ as a role model - but that probably explains a lot.
Christ without the cross, makes about as much sense as a saviour without salvation - but like I said...your choice.


TV

Mutaino7:
u deserved my followership*dico needed*.. I love how u own, dictate and slice arguments..

carefreewannabe:
And the blind are leading the blind.

TV01:

Appreciated


No Gif, content ! But lots of soreness because the truth is evident.

You are becoming redundant !


TV

carefreewannabe:


Anyone who follows you and supports you has a one digit IQ.

There are 7.125 billion people and at least half of them are stvpid so it won't surprise me that many will follow you.
See achievement.

Mutaino7:
yekeyeke!!! Agbabiaka!! Vry funny family section is such a fun may God grant us his grace...hehn! People sha.. God bless u all.

pickabeau1:
For someone to be so reviled by some females here
His religion, his posts even his wife is not spared
I wonder when his son will become game.

Even the bible toting females can't resist to take dogs at him

Immediately a post insulting him is put up, u see the likes rack up....by default every time

Na wa....


TV01..your positive demeanour is astounding

carefreewannabe:


You are a joke.

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pickabeau1:



You never know when to stop
Im not in a mood for your PMSing

Refrain from quoting me

Last warning

carefreewannabe:


You can avoid it attention seeker.

pickabeau1:



Why don't u clear out the dried spern flakes from your ears and listen for once

Bloody leaky cünt

carefreewannabe:


Anyone who follows you and supports you has a one digit IQ.

There are 7.125 billion people and at least half of them are stvpid so it won't surprise me that many will follow you.
See achievement.

TV01:

No gifs, no content, ad-hominem against me and invective against 3 billion + people .

You are clearly in meltdown -you are close to joining the long list or those I have left with limps, wounds and chronic conditions - time out perhaps ?


TV - Nairaland' leading femnivore

carefreewannabe:


I wouldn't be surprised to discover one day that TV01 is a pastor milking his stvpid church members.

And they will all fall for it because Mr Television knows how to make use of thesaurus and they are all r*etarded.

TV01:


I can confirm - and my early posting history on this forum clearly shows - that I am anti-mandatory tithe, and believe money should only move within the body of CHrist based on "need".

Further, I am not a Pentecostal or denominationalist of any kind. I do not belong to, own or operate any form of religious organisation. You are appearing increasingly desperate and unhinged - a sabbatical would help you re-think, re-group and assimilate the deep truths I have graciously imparted to you !

See you back.


TV

pickabeau1:
Its funny right....feel sorry for yourself

How much have you made tonight from that cesspool u carry between ur legs

I'm having fun too...don't u have more gifs..carefree